American Express Membership Rewards - Offered Upgrade to Centurion For Asking To Cancel Platinum

I called to inquire about the Centurion Card, because at the time I didn't know the spending requirements for the card (I had spent an average of $150K/year). They told me the requirements and I took offense to being denied for a credit card, as I easily spent over $250K/year across all of my credit credits (not on business expenses either). I then told them that I would like to cancel my card as I would be switching my business to Citibank with their Chairman Card. All of a sudden the mood changed and she asked me to wait to see what she can do. She then returned after about 4-5 minutes and said she had gotten authorization to upgrade me. I accepted and they said they would be sending the card out UPS.

After reading many of the postings it doesn't seem like anyone has tried this, has anyone? and if so is this commonplace?

Thanks and good to be a member here.

I cannot justify upgrading my plat to a centurion ($2500 per year). If they ever target me to upgrade I wont accept it.

If you dont mind me asking what is your primary reason to want a centurion card?
Kasop

If you dont mind me asking what is your primary reason to want a centurion card?
Kasop

I have had an American Express Card since I turned 18 and have never had a problem with them, when I have had many problems with other cards. I travel a lot, mostly for vacation and not business related but honestly it was the prestige of the card since I do spend most of the money on night life expenses since I'm single and in NYC and work on Wall Street and in that field it's all about perception, for future deals and relationships. Make sense?

yes it does indeed make sense, however I dont think I would spend $2500.00 on the prestige of it alone, have you read my previous post about in a few years we wont even need the actual credit card to make purchases (cell phone will BE the credit card), do you think you will stay with the centurion if this happens - a phone is a phone and the merchant will not know if you are paying with a centurion card or a WAMU debit card.

That's going to take forever to happen in USA... Telecom here is AGES behind Asia and Europe.

Even if credit payments take the form a cell phone or a pda or anything such as that, it won't change anything there will just be more prestigious cell phones and pdas. But more curious if anyone has tried to get the centurion via trying to cancel their platinum or other card.

Maybe Vertu would make one :P

One guy in UK said he got CENT free for a year, because he said he was going to cancel his Plat. They're a little more loose with them over there, although it sounds like they're not inviting any more until relaunch..

BTW, what other cards do you use?

Maybe I didnt read your post correctly. You called to ask for the Black card and they told you the speil about minimum yada yada? Or did you call while back and called again?

I like yourself have had amex since i turned 18 and charged large amounts (not 150k). Ive been offered the platinum for many years and just upgraded last month. When I asked about the black while i was onl gold they told me the speil and told me that if i was a platinum member i would be more likely to get it etc..

Not something i have to have but with a few of my freinds have it in thier pocket i would not mind ;)

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As for the post about phones, trust me Nokia or a manufacture will pair up with someone to do something interesting. The vertu is one but ive seen 20,000 Sony Ericssons with diamonds
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Thanks in advance.

the point i was trying to make was not the phone itself, i know you can have the best phone on the market but still have a "lowly" credit card attached, but without the prestige of slapping a plat/cent card in front of the cashier, whats the point in having a plat/cent card if you have it only for "prestige" purposes.
Maybe Amex will issue designer phones to their plat/cent cardholders because this technology is more of "when and not an if"


Maybe I didnt read your post correctly. You called to ask for the Black card and they told you the speil about minimum yada yada? Or did you call while back and called again?

I like yourself have had amex since i turned 18 and charged large amounts (not 150k). Ive been offered the platinum for many years and just upgraded last month. When I asked about the black while i was onl gold they told me the speil and told me that if i was a platinum member i would be more likely to get it etc..

Not something i have to have but with a few of my freinds have it in thier pocket i would not mind ;)

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As for the post about phones, trust me Nokia or a manufacture will pair up with someone to do something interesting. The vertu is one but ive seen 20,000 Sony Ericssons with diamonds
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Thanks in advance.

the point i was trying to make was not the phone itself, i know you can have the best phone on the market but still have a "lowly" credit card attached, but without the prestige of slapping a plat/cent card in front of the cashier, whats the point in having a plat/cent card if you have it only for "prestige" purposes.
Maybe Amex will issue designer phones to their plat/cent cardholders because this technology is more of "when and not an if"
I understand what you are saying.

Im in the Phone business and I can assure you this technology is atleast 2 years away from being a reality in America atleast.

What will be next will be a magnetic type of material that you flash your card in front of simular to a toll tag. I think mastercard has this.

Carriers have far more things to do before they go the way of a charge card on your phone. I used that technology in Sweden almost 1 year ago

we have been waving key chains and the like for years at the gas station (speed pass I think they call it at Mobil)
But when this technology becomes commonplace in the US and credit cards no longer exisit in the credit card format, I wonder how Amex will react, what will they do to entice you to keep and pay for plat/cent. I think they will have to improve their quality of service and benefits, right now service and benefits are declining rapidly! Pretty much now my plat is for the prestige only! Hate their travel dept, concierge takes 4 times as long as anyone else to send a bunch of flowers, 2 for 1 is a joke, and then they ask you for over $500 (original plus addl cardmember), lounge access is the only good thing i can think off!

I understand what you are saying.

Im in the Phone business and I can assure you this technology is atleast 2 years away from being a reality in America atleast.

What will be next will be a magnetic type of material that you flash your card in front of simular to a toll tag. I think mastercard has this.

Carriers have far more things to do before they go the way of a charge card on your phone. I used that technology in Sweden almost 1 year ago

<<the prestige of slapping a plat/cent card in front of the cashier>>

I cannot even imagine any prestige value associated with a card when payment is made at the end of a mass market transaction, which is where I expect one would use the phone rather than presenting the physical card. A cashier does not have the authority to extend any discretionary courtesies to customers. Publix will carry the groceries to your car no matter how you pay :) .

dennis

I'm sure that I'm a lot older than most of you, but I remember 40 years ago when they said no one would ever carry cash anymore, because everything would be handled via credit cards! :rolleyes:

So waiting for everything to happen via you cell phone is going to be a while longer. YMMV

I'm sure that I'm a lot older than most of you, but I remember 40 years ago when they said no one would ever carry cash anymore, because everything would be handled via credit cards! :rolleyes:

So waiting for everything to happen via you cell phone is going to be a while longer. YMMV

I dont carry cash or a check book, the maximum amount of cash I have on me ar any one time is a few quaters in my car ash tray for parking meters, and even they take a credit card.
I hate cash, I hate the feel of it and I hate that its so dirty! Its fine in the US to charge a cup of coffee to a credit card but in Europe it causes some raised eyebrows!

Pretty much now my plat is for the prestige only! Hate their travel dept, concierge takes 4 times as long as anyone else to send a bunch of flowers, 2 for 1 is a joke, and then they ask you for over $500 (original plus addl cardmember), lounge access is the only good thing i can think off!

Plat brings you prestige? News to me after a couple years and never feeling any prestige (and I really didn't expect or want any, so that's fine.) Black does bring you some "prestige" as I've noticed from a few friends with Centurion cards; but generally not more than curious staff or potential interests in bars who're more interested in the card than the person. Since I haven't mentioned it in a while, I'm quite happy with my Chairman Card now, mainly for lounge access and concierge, and my Gold Rewards Plus with its better-than-Plat-or-Centurion MR points (and bonuses I can actually enroll in.)

Actually I'm really pissed off about my Gold Rewards Plus, but that's another story. Since it's a new card my "no preset" credit limit is approximately 5% of my open credit limit across other Amex cards (which is around 1.5x my usual monthly spend these days, but of course you have to consider that in general one will have two months worth of balance on their card, but my current spend is fortunately much lower than it's been in the recent past due to a tighter budget while I get my business going); if it was a credit card I could simply reallocate credit lines. Talked to Account Services at length and the best they could do was tell me to prepay the card (um, this kind of defeats the point of a credit card), or wait 6 months and perhaps have the limit about double once I've established "payment history." Also offered to have the "non-preset" limit increased if I send in 3 months of checking account statements. No, I don't keep that much money in my 0% interest checking account until I need it, and money market accounts do not count. Come on, isn't several years of having given plenty of money to Amex with no lates or whatnot history enough? "No preset spending limit" is an absolute, ridiculous sham.

Maybe I didnt read your post correctly. You called to ask for the Black card and they told you the speil about minimum yada yada? Or did you call while back and called again? .

This was all done on the same call. Has anyone else had any sucess in doing this or lack there of? Is this common place? I would think that they would rather upgrade you if you are spending $150K a year on a platinum card to a centurion card, versus losing the the $395 fee and your spending or they can charge you $2500 a year and keep your spending. Seems like and easy choice to me. Opinions and stories?

This was all done on the same call. Has anyone else had any sucess in doing this or lack there of? Is this common place? I would think that they would rather upgrade you if you are spending $150K a year on a platinum card to a centurion card, versus losing the the $395 fee and your spending or they can charge you $2500 a year and keep your spending. Seems like and easy choice to me. Opinions and stories?

Ill call and try see what they say...
Seems that more and more people are getting the card.. Im thinking they are not being as picky with who they issue the card to..

they asked what you did? It seems that they issue the card or atleast favor people who are more status symbols. not only celebs.

they asked what you did?

They didn't ask what I did. Yeah let me know how it goes for you I'm interested. Also I called the platinum# (on the back of my card) not the centurion one.

I called to inquire about the Centurion Card, because at the time I didn't know the spending requirements for the card (I had spent an average of $150K/year). They told me the requirements and I took offense to being denied for a credit card, as I easily spent over $250K/year across all of my credit credits (not on business expenses either). I then told them that I would like to cancel my card as I would be switching my business to Citibank with their Chairman Card. All of a sudden the mood changed and she asked me to wait to see what she can do. She then returned after about 4-5 minutes and said she had gotten authorization to upgrade me. I accepted and they said they would be sending the card out UPS.

After reading many of the postings it doesn't seem like anyone has tried this, has anyone? and if so is this commonplace?

Thanks and good to be a member here.

Umm, the requirement isn't 150K on one card it is 250K over all your cards. So if you spent more than 250K in the last 12 months on AMEX you "qualified" if you did not and you are in the US I am not sure I buy your story or you are leaving out important info.

If you search you will see several stories about people spending 200K+, threatening to cancel and told sorry. (In the US) Other countries I have no idea. I believe the reason that is floated as to why AMEX is so strick is AMEX can't be discriminatory in the way they approve credit.

Umm, the requirement isn't 150K on one card it is 250K over all your cards. So if you spent more than 250K in the last 12 months on AMEX you "qualified" if you did not and you are in the US I am not sure I buy your story or you are leaving out important info.

If you search you will see several stories about people spending 200K+, threatening to cancel and told sorry. (In the US) Other countries I have no idea. I believe the reason that is floated as to why AMEX is so strick is AMEX can't be discriminatory in the way they approve credit.

I know the requirement isn't $150K that's what I spent on AMex though, I have spent more than $250K on all my credit cards (Amex, Visa, etc..). Not sure what you mean by

" believe the reason that is floated as to why AMEX is so strick is AMEX can't be discriminatory in the way they approve credit."

Please elaborate. Also i have heard others with similar expeirences. Am I wrong?

<<I dont carry cash or a check book, the maximum amount of cash I have on me ar any one time is a few quarters >>

What do you use for tips? I typically carry one $20 bill, plus several $1 bills (or $2 bills when I remember) for tipping.

dennis

A couple of months ago, I rang to see if I had met the threshold and was told I was short...was at $238,000 or so for the previous 12 mo, and they wouldn't budge on the cutoff. I had to make that months payment to pass the magic mark (since it's charged and paid, not just charged). Spending was 100% on the Plat card - which in retrospect was stupid (oh I wish it was all on the SPG Amex). But point is, I find it hard to believe that they are letting people upgrade at $150 + a threat to cancel if they wouldn't do it for somebody 12k short (and well over that due in full).

I understand what you are saying.

Im in the Phone business and I can assure you this technology is atleast 2 years away from being a reality in America atleast.

What will be next will be a magnetic type of material that you flash your card in front of simular to a toll tag. I think mastercard has this.

Carriers have far more things to do before they go the way of a charge card on your phone. I used that technology in Sweden almost 1 year ago

I'm the CEO of a technology company and I've been intimately involved in top-level conversations with most of the major US carriers and manufacturers regarding this technology.

2 years is way off the mark. Try 10 years as a VERY optimistic guess. Just before summer I attended an executive summit at which the CEO of a top-3 US carrier revealed that the technology has been tabled indefinitely and that they had no plans to even begin looking at it this decade.

Looks like I'm keeping my Centurion card for at least 10 more years.

I don't get this notion that your credit card confers some prestige upon you. Mostly it puts money in the hands of the credit card company, with some of that going to the advertising agency that has crafted the campaign for which you have fallen hook, line, and sinker.

What is the message that you are trying to convey? Are you trying to impress the hotel cashier, the restaurant waiter, or the store clerk? Does it make you feel superior to them? Does having the Centurion Card raise your self-esteem? Do you just casually whip out your wallet and flash that Centurion card to show people that you can afford to spend $2500/year just to carry that card? How would the viewer know that you weren't one of those who talked AmEx into giving it to you for free for a year?

Does it help you to attract people of your preferred gender (excluding those who ask for money for their services)?

Poor me - I only have a Platinum AmEx card - Costco gave it to me as a member. What I mostly use, though, is my Visa card that gives me airline miles. Most of the time these days, especially in Europe, I stick my card in the payment slot and the store/hotel/restaurant doesn't see the card at all.

AmEx has you right where they want you -- drooling over their piece of plastic. I can think of a lot of things that I would much rather do with that $2500 each year.

you hate cash because it's dirty? and it's ok to charge of cup of coffee?

sorry... was reading that and laughed... agree that a lot of people don't carry a lot of cash in their wallets or minimal because credit cards/debit cards are very convienent, but don't think many flyers or the public do it because cash is "dirty"...

i'll pass through a SBUX and pay via a debit card when i've got no cash on me, but that even pushes it for me...

don't mean to bash or be mean... just my opinion.....

I don't get this notion that your credit card confers some prestige upon you. Mostly it puts money in the hands of the credit card company, with some of that going to the advertising agency that has crafted the campaign for which you have fallen hook, line, and sinker.

What is the message that you are trying to convey? Are you trying to impress the hotel cashier, the restaurant waiter, or the store clerk? Does it make you feel superior to them? Does having the Centurion Card raise your self-esteem? Do you just casually whip out your wallet and flash that Centurion card to show people that you can afford to spend $2500/year just to carry that card? How would the viewer know that you weren't one of those who talked AmEx into giving it to you for free for a year?

Does it help you to attract people of your preferred gender (excluding those who ask for money for their services)?

Poor me - I only have a Platinum AmEx card - Costco gave it to me as a member. What I mostly use, though, is my Visa card that gives me airline miles. Most of the time these days, especially in Europe, I stick my card in the payment slot and the store/hotel/restaurant doesn't see the card at all.

AmEx has you right where they want you -- drooling over their piece of plastic. I can think of a lot of things that I would much rather do with that $2500 each year.

You have no concept of why people want the card. Do a search so you are not bombarded with posts about all the benifits. And please educate yourself because you may think you have a platinum charge card but it is a worthless piece of plastic from costco with no benifits. Now if you flew a lot you may want a real plat that offers airport lounge access. The Centurion card goes way beyond the plat card. I know quite a few people who do not use the card in public but have it just for benifits.

I dont carry cash or a check book, the maximum amount of cash I have on me ar any one time is a few quaters in my car ash tray for parking meters, and even they take a credit card.
I hate cash, I hate the feel of it and I hate that its so dirty! Its fine in the US to charge a cup of coffee to a credit card but in Europe it causes some raised eyebrows!

I completely agree with you. Its a cold day in hell when you catch me with any cash. I too have a few bucks in quarters in the ashtray, but thats about it. I charge anything and everything to credit- coffee, textbooks, a bottle of pop, pack of gum, etc... Some merchants try to impose credit card minimums, but they generally back down after I threaten to report them to Visa (or whomever). Almost all my friends are the same- cash is rarely used. In the past 2 months the only cash I have taken out from an ATM has to visit a hole in the wall restaurant that does not accept credit.

You mean when you take out your platinum card at Mcdonald's and Wendy's, they don't treat you with preferred status? They don't say... Wow... Mr X... that's a cool card.....:) :)

Hey... I've got the plat card and use it for business expenses and travel benefits... but never have used it for ooohhh's and awe's...

I worked retail before and remember seeing the plat/cent cards and at first it was a neat sight, but it wore off after a while....

Even the gold card nowadays is a pretty common sight... Used to have more prestige but no major benefits seen...

Maybe with Visa/Amex putting "platinum" on every card out there, it take away from the magicness of the card...

imho...

You have no concept of why people want the card. Do a search so you are not bombarded with posts about all the benifits. And please educate yourself because you may think you have a platinum charge card but it is a worthless piece of plastic from costco with no benifits. Now if you flew a lot you may want a real plat that offers airport lounge access. The Centurion card goes way beyond the plat card. I know quite a few people who do not use the card in public but have it just for benifits.

I know about the Centurion Card, and I don't need some American Express factotum to post a message telling me that I don't. To me, it has no benefit that is worth even a small fraction of $2500/yr, even though I am reasonably certain that I would qualify for your Card. But obviously there are those who find it worth that amount, and those people not only pay your personal salary but make a profit for your employer. At least it was clear from the posting that you are an American Express employee.

I continue to believe that people whose egos are fed by the color of their credit cards have a misplaced set of priorities. My low-status cards seem to be accepted everywhere that I want to use them. If I need concierge services, I can use part of my $2500 annual savings and pay for them as needed.

I know about the Centurion Card, and I don't need some American Express factotum to post a message telling me that I don't. To me, it has no benefit that is worth even a small fraction of $2500/yr, even though I am reasonably certain that I would qualify for your Card. But obviously there are those who find it worth that amount, and those people not only pay your personal salary but make a profit for your employer. At least it was clear from the posting that you are an American Express employee.

I continue to believe that people whose egos are fed by the color of their credit cards have a misplaced set of priorities. My low-status cards seem to be accepted everywhere that I want to use them. If I need concierge services, I can use part of my $2500 annual savings and pay for them as needed.

What card you carry is personal choice. As is what car you drive, how big your house is and so forth and so on. If someone wants to pay x amount of dollars for a credit card membership so what? If it's of value to them then there no need to criticize because you choose not to want to understand. Everyone that carries a plat or centurion isn't on an ego trip.Take it down a notch!

I know about the Centurion Card, and I don't need some American Express factotum to post a message telling me that I don't. To me, it has no benefit that is worth even a small fraction of $2500/yr, even though I am reasonably certain that I would qualify for your Card.
Fine - please allow the possibility that some of us do derive a positive value from the Centurion Card though, and one that has nothing to do with perceived prestige.

You're obviously entitled to think that because you wouldn't get any value that no others could, and therefore attribute their decision to pay the card fee to whatever you like, but it doesn't do your credibility much good. Nor does suggesting that anyone who holds a contradictory opinion is a corporate stooge.

By the way, which agency do you think puts together the Centurion Card advertising?

Has anyone else had any luck or given it shot, that is threatening to cancel your current card if you weren't upgraded? I'm surprised this happened actually based on previous posts I have read.

I know about the Centurion Card, and I don't need some American Express factotum to post a message telling me that I don't. To me, it has no benefit that is worth even a small fraction of $2500/yr, even though I am reasonably certain that I would qualify for your Card.

I have to laugh. Do you even know what the benefits are? Sure, you personally may have not have use for anything the Centurion offers because you frequent hotels with digits in their name, but keep in mind you would not be the target for the card. It is like me ranting about coupons. In terms of being certain about being able to qualify for the card: Did you charge 250K in the last two months (yes/no). If no, then you currently DON'T qualify. If yes, you do. (no more reasonably). Keep in mind it is also a requirement to pay the annual fee :D

But obviously there are those who find it worth that amount, and those people not only pay your personal salary but make a profit for your employer. At least it was clear from the posting that you are an American Express employee.

I continue to believe that people whose egos are fed by the color of their credit cards have a misplaced set of priorities. My low-status cards seem to be accepted everywhere that I want to use them. If I need concierge services, I can use part of my $2500 annual savings and pay for them as needed.

I think we all agree low-status cards seem to appeal to people of the same status. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with wanting to have status when you don't. I think I take issue with the fact that it seems like riff-raff people "hating" on my cool metal card - when we both know they want it. :D

Has anyone else had any luck or given it shot, that is threatening to cancel your current card if you weren't upgraded? I'm surprised this happened actually based on previous posts I have read.

Search FT. It has happened - AMEX says no dice.

I know about the Centurion Card, and I don't need some American Express factotum to post a message telling me that I don't. To me, it has no benefit that is worth even a small fraction of $2500/yr, even though I am reasonably certain that I would qualify for your Card.

I AM NOT AN AMEX EMPLOYEE. I WILL POST ONE FACTUAL BENIFIT THAN MORE PAYS FOR THE CARD. You can stay at Mandiran Oriental Hotels and buy one night and get one free. So if you were entertaining clients or employees or friends and needed a large suite for two days that cost $2,600 a nite you payed for the card for the year. Oh I forgot on the way to your Suite you were upgraded on your flight to first class for free since you have a Centurion card even though you bought that cheap coach ticket. ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE NO CONCEPT OF THE CARD BENIFITS.

Just don't feed the troll!!!

They replied with.

"you meet everything but the spending of 250K" they told me that is something they absolutly DO NOT! wave that undery and circumstance.


o well i could stop taking amex at my stores and they would loose 250k but i dont really care.

more power to the current holders thats a cool status

is that $2500 a year for the account owner only? If I got my wife one does she pay the $2500 a year as well?

Brent

is that $2500 a year for the account owner only? If I got my wife one does she pay the $2500 a year as well?


Its 2500 for the primary, and 1500 for all others if I recall correctly.

So has anyone else had any sucess or lack there of in upgrading their card to a centurion one after reading this thread and threatening to cancel their account?

So has anyone else had any sucess or lack there of in upgrading their card to a centurion one after reading this thread and threatening to cancel their account?

Apparently, this has never worked for anyone. You'll need to convince people that it worked for you and that you aren't just trying to get others to try it out for you. The way you keep asking, it's a bit suspicious. This is the 7th time in this thread that you've asked.

the point i was trying to make was not the phone itself, i know you can have the best phone on the market but still have a "lowly" credit card attached, but without the prestige of slapping a plat/cent card in front of the cashier, whats the point in having a plat/cent card if you have it only for "prestige" purposes.
Maybe Amex will issue designer phones to their plat/cent cardholders because this technology is more of "when and not an if"


amex germany is selling centurion branded nokia 8890s which are limited to 200pcs.

dp

I'm sure that I'm a lot older than most of you, but I remember 40 years ago when they said no one would ever carry cash anymore, because everything would be handled via credit cards! :rolleyes:

So waiting for everything to happen via you cell phone is going to be a while longer. YMMV

Frankly, many people today [middle-class and up] don't really worry about carrying cash. I'm sure if you stopped most people in a shopping mall they would have limited cash and pay for almost everything with plastic. Sure, the need for cash is there, but it's not like the 70's and before when people lined up at banks on Friday to get the weekend cash.

Though I like to have a minimum of $50-$100 on me at all times, I pay for almost everything with debit or credit.

I AM NOT AN AMEX EMPLOYEE. I WILL POST ONE FACTUAL BENIFIT THAN MORE PAYS FOR THE CARD. You can stay at Mandiran Oriental Hotels and buy one night and get one free. So if you were entertaining clients or employees or friends and needed a large suite for two days that cost $2,600 a nite you payed for the card for the year. Oh I forgot on the way to your Suite you were upgraded on your flight to first class for free since you have a Centurion card even though you bought that cheap coach ticket. ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE NO CONCEPT OF THE CARD BENIFITS.

Is it just me, or are the people infatuated with the 'prestige' of the Centurion card really bad spellers? I would think someone who pays $2,600 a night for a suite at a Mandarin Oriental Hotel would know how to spell it.

All that aside, I find the open display and boasting about it to be perverse and in general all-around bad taste. I can imagine Russian oligarchs perhaps taking some perverse pride in attainment of said card, but most people in my circle - including one confirmed billionaire - are plenty happy with the basic green card.

I'm not sure about you, but should I need a suite for two nights at a MO Hotel, I'm sure I'm savvy enough to negotiate a better rate. As for $2,500 a year for the privilege of flashing the Centurion card at a sales clerk or desk agent: most don't understand the significance and those that do - don't really care.

I wrote last December about an 'incident' at the Four Seasons in Prague where a guy openly flashed his Centurion card in hopes of an upgrade and was unsuccessful. It was unseemly, embarassing and downright pathetic. Perhaps I'm allowing my Connnecticut/Catholic/Yankee upbringing cloud my judgment, but if you're desperate enough to need to achieve status from the color of a credit card, you're not terribly successful in the first place.

I have to laugh. Do you even know what the benefits are? Sure, you personally may have not have use for anything the Centurion offers because you frequent hotels with digits in their name, but keep in mind you would not be the target for the card. It is like me ranting about coupons. In terms of being certain about being able to qualify for the card: Did you charge 250K in the last two months (yes/no). If no, then you currently DON'T qualify. If yes, you do. (no more reasonably). Keep in mind it is also a requirement to pay the annual fee :D



I think we all agree low-status cards seem to appeal to people of the same status. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with wanting to have status when you don't. I think I take issue with the fact that it seems like riff-raff people "hating" on my cool metal card - when we both know they want it. :D


Your hubristic sense of superiority and need to openly boast about your ability to get the card is of more interest to you than anyone reading this thread. Clearly there is something lacking in your life - self-esteem perhaps? I get a kick out of the 'riff-raff' comment - as though everyone who doesn't have a Centurion Card isn't worthy to be in your presence? Get real: People with a life and a healthy ego don't need to spend $2,500 bucks for a credit card. What color is Bill Gates/Warren Buffet's Amex? You got it, green.

Apparently, this has never worked for anyone. You'll need to convince people that it worked for you and that you aren't just trying to get others to try it out for you. The way you keep asking, it's a bit suspicious. This is at the 7th time in this thread that you've asked.

Agreed!

Is it just me, or are the people infatuated with the 'prestige' of the Centurion card really bad spellers? I would think someone who pays $2,600 a night for a suite at a Mandarin Oriental Hotel would know how to spell it.

Nice "the spelling attack." You really told him! I bet you spell checked your entire message twice, or maybe you are (or maybe I should say "your" to get the "spelling/grammer attack") used to using a typewriter as opposed to IM. That being said, I will admit to using the spelling attack a time or too (yes I meant to do that). :cool:


All that aside, I find the open display and boasting about it to be perverse and in general all-around bad taste. I can imagine Russian oligarchs perhaps taking some perverse pride in attainment of said card, but most people in my circle - including one confirmed billionaire - are plenty happy with the basic green card.

CONFIRMED OMG!!! :rolleyes:


I'm not sure about you, but should I need a suite for two nights at a MO Hotel, I'm sure I'm savvy enough to negotiate a better rate. As for $2,500 a year for the privilege of flashing the Centurion card at a sales clerk or desk agent: most don't understand the significance and those that do - don't really care.

Umm, you clearly have money. I can tell by the doit your self attitude. I mean why hire a plumber when you can doit urself. People with money (talk your billionaire buddy) value their time. I am not aware of anyone - except in you'er maed up storyes (the spelling is there for you) - that is flashing a centurion card at the front desk hoping for an upgrade. In the US your upgrade or rate is done at booking. Ask your *CONFIRMED* billioniare friend to call up AMEX and have them send you the Centurion benefits for the US. This in addition to his financial status is something that you could *CONFIRM* :D


I wrote last December about an 'incident' at the Four Seasons in Prague where a guy openly flashed his Centurion card in hopes of an upgrade and was unsuccessful. It was unseemly, embarassing and downright pathetic.


Ahh, embarassed for him. Reminds me of someone that was embarased to pull our their Centurion and use it. Some of you might remeber the thread from a while back. Turns out he didn't have one. :D I guess he wasn't really that embarrased.


Perhaps I'm allowing my Connnecticut/Catholic/Yankee upbringing cloud my judgment, but if you're desperate enough to need to achieve status from the color of a credit card, you're not terribly successful in the first place.
Hmm, I guess your right, but still more successful than the people who don't ^

I swear people need to quite hating on the Centurion card.

Here is the scenario. I bet 50% of these post go just like this:

1. Guy gets turned down for Centurion. He thought he would threaten to cancel is AMEX. AMEX says no dice. He can't believe it. He would pay the fee of $2500...why would they turn him down?

2. Guy gets a couple beers and starts searching online for AMEX. Finds flyertalk. (I know this works because I did it - search part...not deny part :p )

3. Guy creates lame threads and posts about how he is so rich and still uses green card..Centurion sux!

4. (*This part is key*) LOVES all the other FT forums so sticks around every once in a while looks in on the AMEX forums to post one of these "hate messages"

I mean come on EVERYONE take a step back. THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS A FAKE. We all know it. The guy didn't get a Centurion because he was "offended" for not getting the card. He wants/wanted to see if it would work or maybe he had a bet with a friend that that would work.

Your hubristic sense of superiority... most people in my circle - including one confirmed billionaire...
Remind me how this verb declines again?

I am successful; you are showy; he is arrogant; isn't it? :rolleyes:

Why is it that I barely see the super wealthy carry one of these cards? I guess when you get to that point, you really don't give an F what people think. Maybe it is more of an insecurity issue.

Why is it that I barely see the super wealthy carry one of these cards?
I don't know, maybe your super-wealthy-individual-wallet-x-ray-machine is broken?

Remind me how this verb declines again?


conjugates.

lookls like Centurion members have nothing better to do than to hate on each other...

get a Chairman card and be happy like all the Chairman members...check out their forum....

lookls like Centurion members have nothing better to do than to hate on each other...

get a Chairman card and be happy like all the Chairman members...check out their forum....

Why not both? Why does it always seem to be one or the other?

Why is it that I barely see the super wealthy carry one of these cards? I guess when you get to that point, you really don't give an F what people think. Maybe it is more of an insecurity issue.

That's part of it, certainly. But I also suspect that people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates don't need a credit card to help them hope for upgrades on airlines and in hotels. They're likely either flying in their own jets or staying at such exclusive hotels that the Centurion card is looked down upon as a "new money" way of trying to buy acceptance.

Centurion is for upper middle class folks who like to think of themselves as part of that true upper echelon. Me, for instance, although I can't even qualify under the new spend limits... :D

Nice "the spelling attack." You really told him! I bet you spell checked your entire message twice, or maybe you are (or maybe I should say "your" to get the "spelling/grammer attack") used to using a typewriter as opposed to IM. That being said, I will admit to using the spelling attack a time or too (yes I meant to do that). :cool:



CONFIRMED OMG!!! :rolleyes:



Umm, you clearly have money. I can tell by the doit your self attitude. I mean why hire a plumber when you can doit urself. People with money (talk your billionaire buddy) value their time. I am not aware of anyone - except in you'er maed up storyes (the spelling is there for you) - that is flashing a centurion card at the front desk hoping for an upgrade. In the US your upgrade or rate is done at booking. Ask your *CONFIRMED* billioniare friend to call up AMEX and have them send you the Centurion benefits for the US. This in addition to his financial status is something that you could *CONFIRM* :D



Ahh, embarassed for him. Reminds me of someone that was embarased to pull our their Centurion and use it. Some of you might remeber the thread from a while back. Turns out he didn't have one. :D I guess he wasn't really that embarrased.


Hmm, I guess your right, but still more successful than the people who don't ^

I swear people need to quite hating on the Centurion card.

Here is the scenario. I bet 50% of these post go just like this:

1. Guy gets turned down for Centurion. He thought he would threaten to cancel is AMEX. AMEX says no dice. He can't believe it. He would pay the fee of $2500...why would they turn him down?

2. Guy gets a couple beers and starts searching online for AMEX. Finds flyertalk. (I know this works because I did it - search part...not deny part :p )

3. Guy creates lame threads and posts about how he is so rich and still uses green card..Centurion sux!

4. (*This part is key*) LOVES all the other FT forums so sticks around every once in a while looks in on the AMEX forums to post one of these "hate messages"

I mean come on EVERYONE take a step back. THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS A FAKE. We all know it. The guy didn't get a Centurion because he was "offended" for not getting the card. He wants/wanted to see if it would work or maybe he had a bet with a friend that that would work.


You're really strange. Is English your first language?

hi,

about this

3. Guy creates lame threads and posts about how he is so rich and still uses green card..Centurion sux!


i did use my green amex for one year as it was giving me double points :)
my centurion i am only using it for flights and hotels, as there you can get the most out of it.

normally i would pay with the card which is giving me the best benefits, and thisis not the centurion.

the gap between people who once had it or still have a centurion and the people who are trying to get one is so big.

but in some countries if you spent double the amount needet for a centurion and you cancel your plat and you will get a centurion.

this is not a rumor , i did help 3 friends to get the centurion and it worked.

but this is 2-3 years ago.

dp

hi,

about this

3. Guy creates lame threads and posts about how he is so rich and still uses green card..Centurion sux!


i did use my green amex for one year as it was giving me double points :)
my centurion i am only using it for flights and hotels, as there you can get the most out of it.

normally i would pay with the card which is giving me the best benefits, and thisis not the centurion.

the gap between people who once had it or still have a centurion and the people who are trying to get one is so big.

but in some countries if you spent double the amount needet for a centurion and you cancel your plat and you will get a centurion.

this is not a rumor , i did help 3 friends to get the centurion and it worked.

but this is 2-3 years ago.

dp

This guy is talking in the US. Lets not confuse the issue with what other countries do as they seem to be...different countries.

You're really strange. Is English your first language?

I'm strange? Have you read your posts?

"I can imagine Russian oligarchs perhaps taking some perverse pride in attainment of said card, but most people in my circle - including one confirmed billionaire - are plenty happy with the basic green card. "

As I tried to point out and I think you can see clearly from that quote, your the one with issues. I guess I need to be a little less subtle.

Facts are:

1. Plenty of CONFIRMED billionaires have Centurion cards
2. Poor people can't get them certainly not riff-raff
3. The orignal poster did not get a Centurion by threatening to cancel his AMEX.
4. This is the one that really counts. Unlike you I have a Centurion card and can comment constructively on this thread. :p

Why don't you start a thread on threatening to cancel your blue cash to get a green card. Then you would have something to add. ;)

They didn't ask what I did. Yeah let me know how it goes for you I'm interested. Also I called the platinum# (on the back of my card) not the centurion one.Strange.....so you didn't even talk to the Centurion people? Platinum# was able and authorize to make your upgrade? just seems strange...

The Centurion Card is not "Plastic" it is made of Titanium...

I am upper middle class and the card does get me some of the perks that the upper class get for free.

You have no concept of why people want the card. Do a search so you are not bombarded with posts about all the benifits. And please educate yourself because you may think you have a platinum charge card but it is a worthless piece of plastic from costco with no benifits. Now if you flew a lot you may want a real plat that offers airport lounge access. The Centurion card goes way beyond the plat card. I know quite a few people who do not use the card in public but have it just for benifits.Sorry, don't post often in these parts but was looking up a question and started browsing threads...

But wanted to comment that people who (genuinly) travel a lot generally already have lounge access where they need it most. On top of that, many membership for airline clubs in the US or Qantas, for example, can be purchased as well, negating the need to even fly sufficiently to gain lounge privileges. Then there is Priority club and the like. So I find it hard to believe that a person charging a quarter of a million dollars per annum in unsecured debt-and $2500 for the privilege-cannot find the (comparative) pittance to pay for club membership. Or am I missing something here?

I've also been told a big benefit of Centurian is getting reservations to restaurants difficult to get into. I suppose that is important for people who need/want that, but I am not one of them, so I hardly see it as a benefit (from my perspective).

I'm also one with only a lowly platinum from Costco (because Costco only accepts amex when you want to pay via credit card), and it works great for me. The customer service, on the two occasions I have needed it, has been great (and not a call center in India either).

And I am able to use lounges whenever I fly, even without the vaunted benefits of Amex plastics/titanium/blackness/whatever...

[QUOTE]But wanted to comment that people who (genuinly) travel a lot generally already have lounge access where they need it most. On top of that, many membership for airline clubs in the US or Qantas, for example, can be purchased as well, negating the need to even fly sufficiently to gain lounge privileges. Then there is Priority club and the like. So I find it hard to believe that a person charging a quarter of a million dollars per annum in unsecured debt-and $2500 for the privilege-cannot find the (comparative) pittance to pay for club membership. Or am I missing something here?

I would also go as far to say that people who have the Centurion card do not have the need to buy any club memberships. Between the guaranteed access on DL NW and CO when flying their metal AND the priority pass, you should not need to purchase any more lounge memberships, unless they fly airlines such as AA or HP whose clubs are not included in the perks. Also, generally centurion travellers fly at least business class internationally, they will also probably get lounge access from that airline. (I am not saying ALL cent fly biz, but from what I have seen/heard, its a good majority). In the past I had thought about purchasing memberships for the airline I fly most (AS) but because of centurion and priority pass, that need is now negated.

I've also been told a big benefit of Centurian is getting reservations to restaurants difficult to get into. I suppose that is important for people who need/want that, but I am not one of them, so I hardly see it as a benefit (from my perspective).

This is a great benefit, even for not so fancy restaurants. For example, my friends and I like to eat at Cheesecake Factory often. Anybody thats eaten there knows that their waits can get to be 90 minutes+ and they dont take reservations. But everything I have called concierge, they have gotten me onto a "priority list" for a certain time at cheesecake, similar to a reservation, but it just means that if you are there at your time you will get the next available table, generally within 10-15 minutes. This is amazing because you get to skip the HUGE crowd waiting.

I'm also one with only a lowly platinum from Costco (because Costco only accepts amex when you want to pay via credit card), and it works great for me. .....And I am able to use lounges whenever I fly, even without the vaunted benefits of Amex plastics/titanium/blackness/whatever...

What do you mean you can use lounges with the costco card? I was unaware of any costco amex that allowed lounge access. Do you have a regular plat/centurion card or are the staff at DL, NW and CO lounges just ignorant and see a platinum amex regardless of its markings?

Is it just me, or are the people infatuated with the 'prestige' of the Centurion card really bad spellers? I would think someone who pays $2,600 a night for a suite at a Mandarin Oriental Hotel would know how to spell it.

Perhaps I'm allowing my Connnecticut/Catholic/Yankee upbringing cloud my judgment, b.

Did you allow for the possibility that English is NOT the poster's First language?

We are lucky that English is the international language.

And Britney Spears dont need no grammer accurate and speling with her words.

She does not get paid for her writing ability

Why is it that I barely see the super wealthy carry one of these cards? I guess when you get to that point, you really don't give an F what people think. Maybe it is more of an insecurity issue.


How did you find our unique community

But, most of us actually abide by the one handle.

This way we develop a on line persona.

Think about it it way, We are ALL anonomous. We are not using our real names. We use Psydonuems. That's why I am cavalier about spelling (Randy should add spellckeck) and do't write as if every word is going to appear in the congressional record.

What do you mean you can use lounges with the costco card? I was unaware of any costco amex that allowed lounge access. Do you have a regular plat/centurion card or are the staff at DL, NW and CO lounges just ignorant and see a platinum amex regardless of its markings?No, I get the lounge access I need/want because of the airline/cabin I fly, or because of club membership. So I do not need an expensive Centurian credit card, and I do just fine with my lowly (although I find it perfect for my needs) Platinum card from Costco. I am saying I get everything I need without the benefits fo Centurian, is all.

The Amex and lounge access, in my case, have no relation. That's why I had them as seperate paragraphs in my original posting...

[QUOTE]So I do not need an expensive Centurian credit card, and I do just fine with my lowly (although I find it perfect for my needs) Platinum card from Costco. I am saying I get everything I need without the benefits fo Centurian, is all.

Nothing wrong with having that card, to each his own. For some the benefits with Amex Plat/Centurion align perfectly with their needs, for others, such as yourself, the benefits are redundant. I am all for reducing redundancy when possible.

The Amex and lounge access, in my case, have no relation. That's why I had them as seperate paragraphs in my original posting...

I thought that was the case, but I just wanted to confirm.

Hey y'all, I was just surfing the web and I came across this! So quit yer moaning and join. You'll fit right in.

http://www.blackcardclub.com/

Or just get Priority Pass directly and be done with it. No more need for the Platinum AMEX/Centurion AMEX cards. ;)

Sanosuke!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491098&highlight=black+card+club

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402335&highlight=black+card+club

Hey y'all, I was just surfing the web and I came across this! So quit yer moaning and join. You'll fit right in.

http://www.blackcardclub.com/

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491098&highlight=black+card+club

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402335&highlight=black+card+club

Check post #61 and the last page on the second thread.

I don't give a crap about the color of the card and frankly if they let cent card holders get their card in the plain "green" amex, I'd do it. I'd prefer to be stealth.

I'm not a fan of the kind of reactions I get sometimes with the card and I hate that when someone in a group sees it, the first thing they blurt out is "Oh, going to buy dinner for everyone?" I'm embarrassed by pretentious behavior and cringe when someone calls attention to it.

If you get one because you are looking for all the "prestige" - I'm sorry to say that maybe 1 in 30 or so people seem to say anything more than the "Oh, you can get these in black?" response. I don't feel "special" or "elite" when someone recognizes it. I'll grovel as much as the next guy for a room or flight upgrade, but the magic of flashing the card alone doesn't do it.

I've ate at some of best restaurants in the country and last week I swiped it at 7-11 'cause I didn't want to hop on a plane with $.96 in small change if I could avoid it. I don't need to eat at the French Laundry every day now that I have the card. The kind of people that would be attracted so such an accessory when out at night aren't usually the kind of people I'd want to hang with.

I've had the card since it came about in the US, so I'm in at the $1000 rate, which is hard enough to justify, I couldn't see it at the $2500 price. The benefits to me are, by far, the airlines and hotel upgrades. I definitely get my annual fee in upgrades and since I don't travel now as much as I used to, it is worth the annual fee for these. Yeah, losing SPG Platinum this year will hurt. Some people have had a mixed bag with Amex but the service has always been excellent for me, I have nothing to complain about and have indeed had them get me into restaurants that were difficult to reserve and frankly just letting them deal with all the details is nice.

Sheesh, I sound like my father.

My lowly opinion.

This post:

You have no concept of why people want the card. Do a search so you are not bombarded with posts about all the benifits. And please educate yourself because you may think you have a platinum charge card but it is a worthless piece of plastic from costco with no benifits. Now if you flew a lot you may want a real plat that offers airport lounge access. The Centurion card goes way beyond the plat card. I know quite a few people who do not use the card in public but have it just for benifits.

...and the other very negative reactions to someone questioning the worth of "prestige" (a "troll" to one) surprise me. The motivations of people generally to get Centurion are not at issue in this thread. Clearly, the card makes a great deal of plain old financial sense to many -- especially those doing some hotel suite business entertainment. (I sincerely wish that were part of my work).

Thing is, the OP expressly declared his primary motivation for seeking the card:

...honestly it was the prestige of the card since I do spend most of the money on night life expenses since I'm single and in NYC and work on Wall Street and in that field it's all about perception, for future deals and relationships. Make sense?

Now, I do think it's worthwhile for the OP to carefully consider this notion of prestige. Of course it's his call, but he's seeking input. My take is don't put much value on the prestige. Personally, I am very uncomfortable in situations where the vast differences between my means and those of service personnel are apparent. I do whatever I can to turn attention away from this. (No doubt there are some who relish such moments.)

With few exceptions, the only people who see the "prestige" of your black card are those whose means are a tiny fraction of your own. Sure, maybe your friends see you flash the card, but is that really the way you want to impress them?

Before the Centurion fans flame me, please let me emphasize that I don't doubt for a moment that this card makes perfect sense for a lot of people. I take issue not with those who seek practical benefits from the card, but rather with those who seek the vague notion of "prestige". There are far more meaningful ways to establish your worth as a human.

[QUOTE=SchmeckFlyer]

This is a great benefit, even for not so fancy restaurants. For example, my friends and I like to eat at Cheesecake Factory often. Anybody thats eaten there knows that their waits can get to be 90 minutes+ and they dont take reservations. But everything I have called concierge, they have gotten me onto a "priority list" for a certain time at cheesecake, similar to a reservation, but it just means that if you are there at your time you will get the next available table, generally within 10-15 minutes. This is amazing because you get to skip the HUGE crowd waiting.


Hey, does this really work? Have you done it at more than one Cheesecake? Apparently there is a priority waitlist???

Simply having preconfimed upgrades at top hotels is a huge value in of itself.

The equivalent of lifetime status in 3 airlines isn't bad either, as a backup.

I will have a Quintessentially membership before CENT though, as its the best concierge for $1500 (MINT starts at $15K) and I'm not going to be spending $250K/year very soon.

I don't give a crap about the color of the card and frankly if they let cent card holders get their card in the plain "green" amex, I'd do it. I'd prefer to be stealth.

This is certainly possible in the UK. I have a green Centurion card. I called up Customer Services and asked them to issue me a green card on my Centurion account, and they were happy to oblige. Just the last 5 digits of the card number are different.

I have read here that US Centurion card holders can also apply for cards in other colours, so I am sure you would be able to get a green card issued which would give you all of the Centurion benefits whilst allowing you to be "stealth".

This is certainly possible in the UK. I have a green Centurion card. I called up Customer Services and asked them to issue me a green card on my Centurion account, and they were happy to oblige. Just the last 5 digits of the card number are different.

I have read here that US Centurion card holders can also apply for cards in other colours, so I am sure you would be able to get a green card issued which would give you all of the Centurion benefits whilst allowing you to be "stealth".


This kind of works. Since the additional card is a supplementary card on the account, the card is still coded under centurion so even if you call the green CS number you will get connected to centurion CS. That is what happened to me when I was a gold/plat under my parents centurion account. Even if you register the green card online, it will say Business Centurion ending in XXXXX or whathaveyou. The last few digits of the card will indeed be different as well.

However, you will not be able to use the green to make travel reservations with the FHR benefits and such; they require you use the centurion at time of res AND checkin if you want benefits. If you simply want reservation like everybody else, you can still use CTS but simply be aware that you will not get any of the cent benefits. I hope thats clear enough

Memorize your main card #, then carry the green...

This kind of works. Since the additional card is a supplementary card on the account, the card is still coded under centurion so even if you call the green CS number you will get connected to centurion CS. That is what happened to me when I was a gold/plat under my parents centurion account. Even if you register the green card online, it will say Business Centurion ending in XXXXX or whathaveyou. The last few digits of the card will indeed be different as well.

However, you will not be able to use the green to make travel reservations with the FHR benefits and such; they require you use the centurion at time of res AND checkin if you want benefits. If you simply want reservation like everybody else, you can still use CTS but simply be aware that you will not get any of the cent benefits. I hope thats clear enough

This doesn't "kind of work" - it works. The green card is a Centurion card which just happens to be green. The CS phone number on the back of my green card is the same as on my black Centurion card. You could use this card to make hotel bookings with Centurion benefits. If the hotel was concerned that the card was not black, and could not differentiate by the card number, Centurion CS should confirm that it is a Centurion card entitled to the benefits. I assume that they would even advise the hotel when making the booking that the colour was different, but that it was a Centurion card. Of course, this would negate the "stealth" motive. If you want the Centurion travel benefits, you will need to have CTS make the booking, irrespective of your card colour, and so you have been "outed". To that extent, there probably isn't much advantage to using the green card at such times. At other times if "stealth" is the issue, the green card should serve its purpose.

I called to inquire about the Centurion Card, because at the time I didn't know the spending requirements for the card (I had spent an average of $150K/year). They told me the requirements and I took offense to being denied for a credit card, as I easily spent over $250K/year across all of my credit credits (not on business expenses either). I then told them that I would like to cancel my card as I would be switching my business to Citibank with their Chairman Card. All of a sudden the mood changed and she asked me to wait to see what she can do. She then returned after about 4-5 minutes and said she had gotten authorization to upgrade me. I accepted and they said they would be sending the card out UPS.

After reading many of the postings it doesn't seem like anyone has tried this, has anyone? and if so is this commonplace?

Thanks and good to be a member here.

Well now, seems the story was a crock after all...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=591575

Well now, seems the story was a crock after all...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=591575

How does my inquiry regarding an international flight for vacation with friends make my situation a "Crock"?

How does my inquiry regarding an international flight for vacation with friends make my situation a "Crock"?

Just takes a little deductive reasoning. I imagine the other real cents on this board will be able to figure it out.

Just takes a little deductive reasoning. I imagine the other real cents on this board will be able to figure it out.

you dont need even be a cent...if you know the basics about centurion you can figure it out.

Well now, seems the story was a crock after all...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=591575

We knew it was a crock. It is just now it has been admitted :D

you dont need even be a cent...if you know the basics about centurion you can figure it out.

Yeah, I knew that...it was just another jab at him I was taking :D

Didn't mean to insult any non-cent, non-posers

I understand what you are saying.

Im in the Phone business and I can assure you this technology is atleast 2 years away from being a reality in America atleast.

What will be next will be a magnetic type of material that you flash your card in front of simular to a toll tag. I think mastercard has this.

Carriers have far more things to do before they go the way of a charge card on your phone. I used that technology in Sweden almost 1 year ago
Exxon Mobil Speedpass
American ExpressPay
Both do this now, people don't really like the idea of getting close to a reader and your card being charged.
Putting your credit data on a phone... ID THEFT in the making. Americans will not do it for MANY years.

I dont carry cash or a check book, the maximum amount of cash I have on me ar any one time is a few quaters in my car ash tray for parking meters, and even they take a credit card.
I hate cash, I hate the feel of it and I hate that its so dirty! Its fine in the US to charge a cup of coffee to a credit card but in Europe it causes some raised eyebrows!
Agreed, I also am a pick pockets worst nightmare. No cash here.

you hate cash because it's dirty? and it's ok to charge of cup of coffee?

sorry... was reading that and laughed... agree that a lot of people don't carry a lot of cash in their wallets or minimal because credit cards/debit cards are very convienent, but don't think many flyers or the public do it because cash is "dirty"...

i'll pass through a SBUX and pay via a debit card when i've got no cash on me, but that even pushes it for me...

don't mean to bash or be mean... just my opinion.....
Cash IS filthy!

Just don't feed the troll!!!
Someone please explain troll? :confused:

Troll (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:Troll&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)

The Centurion Card is not "Plastic" it is made of Titanium...

I am upper middle class and the card does get me some of the perks that the upper class get for free.
I'm sorry but the US card is BLACK PLASTIC.

Troll (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&defl=en&q=define:Troll&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title)
To post something that you don't necessarily mean in order to provoke a reaction.
I think I have done that before.
Thanks.

I'm sorry but the US card is BLACK PLASTIC.

Nope.

Edited to say: You got me!

This was very interesting (fun) thread to read, for just Platinum member far from $250K spending. :)

I'm sorry but the US card is BLACK PLASTIC.

After reading this, I did search "centurion card" on wikipedia, and it says
"A new Centurion card crafted from anodized titanium is being issued as a replacement for all U.S. Centurion plastic cards in the first half of 2006."
So current black plastic card owners are receiving titanium card sooner or later, I guess.

Interestingly, there is also a reference to this board listed as External Link on wikipedia Centurion Card page.

This was very interesting (fun) thread to read, for just Platinum member far from $250K spending. :)



After reading this, I did search "centurion card" on wikipedia, and it says
"A new Centurion card crafted from anodized titanium is being issued as a replacement for all U.S. Centurion plastic cards in the first half of 2006."
So current black plastic card owners are receiving titanium card sooner or later, I guess.

Interestingly, there is also a reference to this board listed as External Link on wikipedia Centurion Card page.

Check wikipedia for troll! He got you too!

This was very interesting (fun) thread to read, for just Platinum member far from $250K spending. :)



After reading this, I did search "centurion card" on wikipedia, and it says
"A new Centurion card crafted from anodized titanium is being issued as a replacement for all U.S. Centurion plastic cards in the first half of 2006."
So current black plastic card owners are receiving titanium card sooner or later, I guess.

Interestingly, there is also a reference to this board listed as External Link on wikipedia Centurion Card page.


That would be me who posted the link to this thread in wikipedia (Fmerchant):) There was a guy in the discussion area on wikipedia who did not believe that there can be a credit card made from metal, so I posted this thread since it seemed the most detailed on the topic of late

I don't get this notion that your credit card confers some prestige upon you. Mostly it puts money in the hands of the credit card company, with some of that going to the advertising agency that has crafted the campaign for which you have fallen hook, line, and sinker.

What is the message that you are trying to convey? Are you trying to impress the hotel cashier, the restaurant waiter, or the store clerk? Does it make you feel superior to them? Does having the Centurion Card raise your self-esteem? Do you just casually whip out your wallet and flash that Centurion card to show people that you can afford to spend $2500/year just to carry that card? How would the viewer know that you weren't one of those who talked AmEx into giving it to you for free for a year?

Does it help you to attract people of your preferred gender (excluding those who ask for money for their services)?

Poor me - I only have a Platinum AmEx card - Costco gave it to me as a member. What I mostly use, though, is my Visa card that gives me airline miles. Most of the time these days, especially in Europe, I stick my card in the payment slot and the store/hotel/restaurant doesn't see the card at all.

AmEx has you right where they want you -- drooling over their piece of plastic. I can think of a lot of things that I would much rather do with that $2500 each year.


Excuse me here, but the gentleman said, he "travels alot." I "travel alot" too and I can tell you I would rather have no other card than Centurion to assist me when I have to fly to Sydney for dinner and get things done all along the way. They really are excellent if you know how to make them work for you and the 2500 a year is a drop in the bucket if you use the benefits. My card pays for itself within 3 months maximum.

However, you will not be able to use the green to make travel reservations with the FHR benefits and such; they require you use the centurion at time of res AND checkin if you want benefits. If you simply want reservation like everybody else, you can still use CTS but simply be aware that you will not get any of the cent benefits. I hope thats clear enough


this isn't true at all. You never have to use the Centurion Card, as of 2006, to pay for your FHR room. "you must use an american express product in the cardmember's name." Its clearly stated on all Amex CTS reservation confirmations. I often use an MBNA Amex to pay for certain hotel nights and have never had a problem. My CTS benefits are always honored...and I do this at least 3 times a month.

this isn't true at all. You never have to use the Centurion Card, as of 2006, to pay for your FHR room. "you must use an american express product in the cardmember's name." Its clearly stated on all Amex CTS reservation confirmations. I often use an MBNA Amex to pay for certain hotel nights and have never had a problem. My CTS benefits are always honored...and I do this at least 3 times a month.


Not to nitpick...but I never said you had to use the centurion card to pay at checkout. I do this quite often myself- make the reservation with CTS and use the card to check in to get benefits, but I will often settle the bill with my personal Blue card.

Maybe Vertu would make one :P

One guy in UK said he got CENT free for a year, because he said he was going to cancel his Plat. They're a little more loose with them over there, although it sounds like they're not inviting any more until relaunch..

BTW, what other cards do you use?



You mention a relaunch of the Centurion Card, do you have further details on this? I have several Centurion Cards billed in Sterling, Euro and US $ but have not heard anything in relation to a relaunch. Thanks in advance.

Stephen

You mention a relaunch of the Centurion Card, do you have further details on this? I have several Centurion Cards billed in Sterling, Euro and US $ but have not heard anything in relation to a relaunch. Thanks in advance.

Stephen

i spoke with centurion new accounts and centurion customer service and neither know anything about a relaunch or any addition of benefits. the good news is they know nothing of a fee hike either.

My SPG Amex is so worn at the edges that has a beige border.

Does that count :cool:

I thought UK CENT was doing something? it wasn't just PLAT was it?

I thought UK CENT was doing something? it wasn't just PLAT was it?

Yes, they're planning some sort of relaunch.

Well it is the end of 2006 and my Black card is still plastic. A quick call to CS and I am told that they are not currently changing US cards to metal. EU cards are changing.

Well it is the end of 2006 and my Black card is still plastic. A quick call to CS and I am told that they are not currently changing US cards to metal. EU cards are changing.

Eh? It took me a while, but I got mine in metal and all subsequent replacements (due to me damaging/losing) have been metal as well. You are based in the US (I'm assuming due to your profile)?

What do you mean you can use lounges with the costco card? I was unaware of any costco amex that allowed lounge access. Do you have a regular plat/centurion card or are the staff at DL, NW and CO lounges just ignorant and see a platinum amex regardless of its markings?

\You CANNOT use the lounges with a Costco card.

Costco issues (I believe) an Amex Platinum Business card - which essentially is a CREDIT CARD with a line of credit attached.

The CARD which everone get confused is the Amex BUSINESS Platinum (which I have) - this is the card which gets you lounge access.

I have tried this at numerous lounges - show the Platinum Business you cannot get lounge access - show the Business Platinum you're in.

My SPG Amex is so worn at the edges that has a beige border.

Does that count :cool:

Pardon my ignorance but what is a SPG Amex?

Special Pale Gold?

Well it is the end of 2006 and my Black card is still plastic. A quick call to CS and I am told that they are not currently changing US cards to metal. EU cards are changing.

Got ours about a month or two ago..Call again..

Pardon my ignorance but what is a SPG Amex?

Special Pale Gold?

Starwood Preferred Guest

Well it is the end of 2006 and my Black card is still plastic. A quick call to CS and I am told that they are not currently changing US cards to metal. EU cards are changing.

Hmmm-

both of ours were replaced with Titanium months ago.
A quick call and the new cards were delivered next-day.

A call got me the results: Your card will be replaced when it expires (not till next year) or we can send you one now. You can keep plastic if you like. I think I prefer plastic.

Back to the OP, yes, I got the Centurion upgrade in exactly the same circumstances - was calling to cancel the Plat several years ago, and along came the "Would you like to try our new (it was at the time) Centurion card, free for a year?" line.

Pity I'm about to cancel it given the SPG Platinum benefit loss.

Back to the OP, yes, I got the Centurion upgrade in exactly the same circumstances - was calling to cancel the Plat several years ago, and along came the "Would you like to try our new (it was at the time) Centurion card, free for a year?" line.

Pity I'm about to cancel it given the SPG Platinum benefit loss.
Does not work in the U.S.

If only it were that easy. :\

It is a sad day when the flyertalk boards contain more mis-information than correct information. Some of the misundersandings are amex fault such as Amex issuing a piece of plastic from Costco and calling it a " Platinum card"

A call got me the results: Your card will be replaced when it expires (not till next year) or we can send you one now. You can keep plastic if you like. I think I prefer plastic.
Not what I was told. No plastic anymore for anybody once the existing ones are replaced. I like my Titanium card...when it works.

It is a sad day when the flyertalk boards contain more mis-information than correct information. Some of the misundersandings are amex fault such as Amex issuing a piece of plastic from Costco and calling it a " Platinum card"

More often than not, they forget that the Costco card issued is a Platinum Credit Card issued by AMEX. Of course, not the same as the Platinum Charge Card issued by AMEX.

Sanosuke!