JAL Mileage Bank - JFK to NRT, JL 5 & 6: My flight report.




JohnWM
Jun 17, 06, 10:25 am
For my first Japan Airlines flight I departed in mid-May from JFK on JL 5. The departure was delayed by about 20 minutes due to congestion; the landing was about 40 minutes early. At JFK I was easily directed to the Sakura Lounge, as I was traveling Executive Seasons (business) class. The lounge was pleasant and not too crowded, perhaps because I was flying on a Tuesday.

During the flight I chatted with the flight attendant of my section. She said she was from Nagoya, that she really enjoyed the Tokyo - New York run to practice English, and that it was the longest nonstop in the JAL system. She also mentioned that fewer attendants were now willing to work this run.

One main meal was served; I waited for the second meal until I remembered seeing the notation on the menu that the second meal or snack could be served upon request. About 9 hours into the flight I requested the second meal. The choices were the Japanese style food or the Western style. My choice was always available; I never needed to settle for something else.

The aircraft was a 747-400. I was pleased that the seat was wider than I expected. It is said to be a comfortable sleeping seat; for sitting though it's fairly uncomfortable. The inflight entertainment was mediocre: several films and some silly juvenile electronic tick-tack-toe games as well as a standard selection of music. Some amenities were offered from a tray brought around by the attendants: toothbrush set, eyecovers, ear plugs, etc. Various newspapers were also offered to us.

At NRT I made an immediate connection also on JAL to the Beijing flight. That flight used a 777 and was comfortable, both directions over and back several days later. A meal and beverage service were provided in both directions.

In mid-June, also on a Tuesday, I flew my homebound JL 6 also in Executive Seasons (business) class. The inflight entertainment, the seat, and the meal service were all pretty much the same as on the flight over. In chatting with one of the flight attendants, I learned that she was not from Japan but from another Asian country. Hmmm... then I remembered the first flight attendant's comments. Also, on the flight back the captain turned off the airshow for the middle 6 1/2 hours of the flight. Hence the monitor was blank for half of the flight. When I asked one of the flight attendants to ask the captain to turn the monitor back on, she replied: "Why do you need the monitor on?"

I guess JAL must really be in tough financial straits: cutting back on designated meal service, hiring foreign flight attendants, whatever other skimping I didn't notice, etc.

Bottom line for me: adequate business class service and comfort, worth maybe a 6.5 or a 7 on our ten-point scale. Would I return? Not very quickly. I simply feel that my flights had been somewhat mediocre, nothing to talk about, nothing to remember, nothing to re-experience. In brief I was underwhelmed because I had expected more of JAL.


tismfu
Jun 17, 06, 10:52 am
Out of curiosity, how would you compare JL business class to any of the competition's product flying USA-NRT?

Also, you mention "cutting back on designated meal service". What were the cuts?

Thanks for the report.

Blumie
Jun 17, 06, 5:46 pm
I guess JAL must really be in tough financial straits: cutting back on designated meal service, hiring foreign flight attendants, whatever other skimping I didn't notice, etc.
If this was your first time on JL, how do you know the meal service has been cut back? Also, how do you know that the hiring of foreign flight attendants has anything to do with cost cutting? Maybe, for example, they hire from other countries to make sure they have an adequate number of FAs who speak other languages.


Black Adder
Jun 17, 06, 6:12 pm
Maybe, for example, they hire from other countries to make sure they have an adequate number of FAs who speak other languages.


Great point. When you're on JL 048 from NRT to JFK and on to Sao Paolo, they make announcements in Japanese, Chinese (Mandarin, I'm assuming), English and Portugese. Having said that, I heard from a lady sitting next to me that being an FA on JAL isnt what it used to be, the senior FA's do very well but now all the new FA's are only considered part time for the first 3 years.

As for the meals, I flew ORD-NRT and back last month and I liked the choice of when to eat my second meal. I had the Soup and Sandwich on the way out and the Ramen noodles on the way back. Both very good.

My first trip in the shell flat seats I had a hard time getting comfortable but not this last trip, I got 7 hours of sleep in each direction. I'll be back in coach in August, not looking forward to it! :(

drron
Jun 18, 06, 12:48 am
Although japanese learn english not all are confident using it.There have been non-japanese FA,s on JAL for some time now and the reason is to have other languages covered.On flights I have been on I have met FA's from the USA,Singapore,Hong Kong,Taiwan.

Unimatrix One
Jun 18, 06, 5:41 am
There have been no "cut-backs" in business class meal service on the trans-Pacific routes. You only mentioned two choices for the second meal. Perhaps you didn't notice that there are actually 13 choices: two full meal choices and 11 snack choices. And the snack choices are not just cheap munchies but real, hot food (pasta, udon, curry rice, etc.) served on real china. I think JAL's business class menu is excellent precisely because they have so many choices and they give you the flexibility to order anything from the menu at any time during the flight (up to 1.5 hours before landing), and there is no limit on how many things you can order.

About the non-Japanese flight attendants: I am curious as to why you think this is some kind of reduction in service? The non-Japanese flight attendants are just as well-trained and professional as the Japanese flight attendants. I have received nothing but excellent service from all FAs on JAL regardless of nationality.

If you think JAL business class service is unremarkable, have you tried a US carrier (like AA or UA) on this route? The lack of professionalism, bad attitudes, and old-fashioned seats on those carriers will send you screaming back into the arms of JAL.

Rampo
Jun 18, 06, 8:18 am
I agree that non-native FAs on international flights is not that unusual. On all my JL flights between NRT and BKK there have always been some Thai flight attendants as well. Even on my SFO-HKG CX flight, one of the F FAs was from the Philippines.

JohnWM
Jun 18, 06, 11:29 am
Hi, Unimatrix One. Nice hearing from you again! Actually, I paid for this flight using 90,000 AA miles. When I was planning this trip, I polled the members over in the American Airlines forum as to which carrier was better for JFK - NRT. Their responses were 10 to 1 in favor of JAL and against AA. So I thought I'd follow their sage advice. Yes, I'm sure it could have been worse; AA's own business class is held in very low regard. (Parenthetically, my flight last year JFK - HKG was on NWA and that was better than this year's flight on JAL.) To each his own, I suppose.



... If you think JAL business class service is unremarkable, have you tried a US carrier (like AA or UA) on this route? The lack of professionalism, bad attitudes, and old-fashioned seats on those carriers will send you screaming back into the arms of JAL.

francophile
Jun 18, 06, 5:05 pm
It's not uncommon for non-US airlines to hire flight attendants from countries other than the ones where the airlines are based. CX, for example, hires flight attendants from southeast Asia, as well as Canada, and of course from HK.

If you think JAL business class service is unremarkable, have you tried a US carrier (like AA or UA) on this route? The lack of professionalism, bad attitudes, and old-fashioned seats on those carriers will send you screaming back into the arms of JAL.

Agree. I'd rather fly JL J than AA F.



SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2