Starwood Preferred Guest - Instant Awards--always such a hassle?




colerc
May 2, 06, 1:03 pm
I recently had an award stay at the W San Francisco that generated about $70 in incidental charges. At checkout, I asked at the front desk about using instant awards to pay for some of the bill, and filled out the form to apply a $40 credit (for 3,000 starpoints) to my bill. The deduction of points appeared almost instantly on my SPG online activity statement.

I never got the final receipt for the stay (probably my first mistake, I know, but a friend staying with me did the actual checking out; my flight left earlier than his) so I don't know how it looked, but my credit card statement first showed a charge for $29.90--as expected--and then the next day, another charge for $39.71.

I called the hotel (probably my second mistake, perhaps the Plat Concierge could have handled this issue more efficiently, or at least without so much intervention on my part) and left a voicemail with the accounting department, which was returned a couple of days later. Apparently they know just about nothing about Instant Awards, which isn't so surprising since they're not used all that often. But they're still looking into it.

So not only did the $40 credit never get credited, but it looks like, from what the person in accounting said, that the front desk just divvied up my charges and was going to charge me for 2 days of net access ($29.90) and take off the other charges--even though the other charges came out to $39.71, not $40. When accounting noticed this, not knowing that the $39.71 was supposed to be paid with Starpoints, they added an extra charge to the card.

Has anyone else had such a hard time redeeming Instant Awards? I know they're not as common as free night awards, but still, they shouldn't be this complicated.

And on a related topic, does anyone know the official word on using in-room net access after noon when you have late check-out? I've often gotten charged an extra night for it and contested it, but the front desk line is usually that you pay for the service "until noon." Sometimes (at Westins I've stayed at) this is what it says on the agreement page, so I let it go. But other times (at the Ws I've stayed at) it specifically says "24 hours of access." So what gives?


EVA Air
May 2, 06, 1:25 pm
Has anyone else had such a hard time redeeming Instant Awards? I know they're not as common as free night awards, but still, they shouldn't be this complicated.

I used an Instant Award at the Sheraton Princess Kaiulani, and fortunately, I didn't have any complications.

I had to sign a paper, and everything worked out at check-out. Maybe you could get another copy of your folio?

Starwood Lurker
May 2, 06, 1:28 pm
Sorry for the trouble, but there really doesn't seem to be a problem with Instant Awards per se. However, it looks like there could definitely be some improvement in the way this particular hotel handles the accounting afterwards.

The internet access issue is one that is indigenous to each individual property from what I can tell. Usually there is plenty of collateral spread around the desktop to inform what their policy is. If not, then you might want to take it up with management first and if you can't get a satisfactory response, then kick it up to Corporate Customer Service.

Sincerely,


William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services

guest.forum@starwoodhotels.com


trekkie
May 2, 06, 3:00 pm
i never had a problem with instant awards for club room upgrades but i urge the op to write in and see what the property has to say. I would say that some form of goodwill gesture would be appropriate.

They did afterall charged yr card twice and even when they refund your card, you might still incur additional charges. I know i do cos when the property does a refund, i still lose a bit due to foreign exchange differences.

Let us know the outcome??

Usually for me when this happens and the hotel doesn't attempt to provide a proper remedy including goodwill gesture compensation, i would refuse to stay as it means the hotel is only concerned about revenue and not about looking after guests. They also tend to attract one-time customers, not repeats. Perhaps others may have varrying opinion.

PCheng
May 2, 06, 8:04 pm
I tried to pay for a meal at the Sheraton Yogjakarta with SPG points, and the restaurant staff had no clue what I was talking about. Even after explaining to them they still aren't sure how to process my payment, and we eventually had to call the front desk and have the manager call the regional SPG customer service center to sort out everything.

SPG needs to better educate their staff members. Instant award is a good idea, but I don't want to have to go through the hassle again.

Bulldog King
May 2, 06, 9:23 pm
Not to go too far OT from the spirit of the initial post......but until I read this thread.....I had never even heard of this type of use of points. :confused:

Even after looking at SPG.com, I couldn't find much info as to what might be available at various hotels.....so, I'm still somewhat in the dark.

A.J.

colerc
May 2, 06, 9:40 pm
Not to go too far OT from the spirit of the initial post......but until I read this thread.....I had never even heard of this type of use of points. :confused:

Even after looking at SPG.com, I couldn't find much info as to what might be available at various hotels.....so, I'm still somewhat in the dark.

A.J.

That is indeed part of the mystery--the website mentions them rather vaguely and makes it sound as though each hotel defines its own instant awards. In reality, it seems that basically the standard is a $10 credit for 750 points. (Which I think takes some of the fun out of the idea of it--I could be persuaded to take a lousy rate of return on my Starpoints if the Instant Awards steered me toward X number of points for a massage at the spa, for example, or better yet offered special stuff that wasn't already generally available.)

onedog
May 3, 06, 8:02 pm
I've used Instant Awards at two different resorts, the Sheraton Fiji and the Sheraton Kauai. At the Sheraton Fiji, the Instant Award process couldn't have been simpler. I filled out a paper, points were taken from my account and credit appeared on my folio. The front desk knew exactly what to do, or at least could call over someone who did. ^

At the Sheraton Kauai, the front desk wasn't as caught up on the process and it took ages to prepare and process Instant Awards. They didn't know what they could or couldn't do and finding someone who knew was quite a process. :td:

Needless to say, I redeemed WAY more Instant Awards in Fiji than in Kauai. :D

gleff
May 4, 06, 5:23 am
I guess I can see Instant Awards for room upgrades, provided the points charge is reasonable. But using them to pay for in-hotel charges doesn't seem like a particularly good use of points (1.3c/pt in this case).

colerc
May 4, 06, 1:31 pm
Update: though no one from the W SF ever called me to apologize or to let me know, the $39.41 charge was refunded on my online AmEx bill today.

Looks like I've still got some complaining to do in order to make it clear that a $40 credit does not mean finding $39.41 worth of charges to lump together and remove from the bill . . . I know it's not worth a fight over 59 cents, but at this point it's a principle thing . . .



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