California - SNA: Can it handle a 747?
IceTrojan
Apr 24, 06, 8:09 pm
I heard on the radio today that El Presidente was in Irvine giving a speech, and of course my first thought was, "Can AF1/747s land at SNA?" Or did W have to take a motorcade from LAX, ONT, or LGB?
I know this is an airliners.net type question... but they scare me :p
windwalker
Apr 24, 06, 8:22 pm
Nope, they flew the small plane in 757-200, I Do believe.
I thought AF1 was Nikes' new shoes
Got a nice shot of it on final from the 12th floor of the Hyatt ^
IceTrojan
Apr 24, 06, 8:25 pm
Nope, they flew the small plane in 757-200, I Do believe.
I thought AF1 was Nikes' new shoes
Got a nice shot of it on final from the 12th floor of the Hyatt ^
Nice.. please post that up when you get the chance!
I actually drove around SNA on my way home from work today, just to have a looksee. Didn't see anything. But it would be awesome if one could see the 747 land while driving on the 405.
I wonder if there's as many complaints about flying in the 757 Presidential "SlaveShip" :)
bltserv
Apr 25, 06, 6:28 pm
Just a few facts.
SNA is about 5700 Feet long. Runway 19R
Weight max is 152K pounds
Airforce 1 is a 747-200B
Going to guess the weight at around 700K pounds
loaded at T/O.
Max on the spec is 800K pounds.
It wants 10K feet. I think the 747-200 min spec is 6500
But the Presidents is a bit on the heavy side.
If you do see a 747 on approach over the 405.
Avoid the golfcourse and the toll road.
Its going to get ugly back there.
Steve M
Apr 29, 06, 11:08 am
Just a few facts.
Airforce 1 is a 747-200B.
Well, on the day he flew into SNA, Air Force 1 was reportedly a 757-200, and had no trouble with the short runway.
brendamc
Apr 29, 06, 11:48 am
If you do see a 747 on approach over the 405.
Avoid the golfcourse and the toll road.
Its going to get ugly back there.
ROTFL ^ ^ ^
Perhaps it would be a softer landing in the Back Bay, though. Can just see the wildlife scattering...
bltserv
Apr 29, 06, 12:24 pm
Well, on the day he flew into SNA, Air Force 1 was reportedly a 757-200, and had no trouble with the short runway.
Explanation:
Whatever aircraft the President of the United States is on
is given the radio call designation "Airforce 1".
757 is OK at SNA. Its a heavy.
Just as long as the GA stay far behind it.
Its not a Jumbo like a 747.
As far as a 747 at SNA
I agree with the previous post. Forget the golfcourse and toll road.
Its headed for Back Bay. Yeeha. What a landing.
asu-ua772
Apr 30, 06, 8:18 pm
A question:
Have there been any times when G.W. used the 737-700 (whatever the military designation for the a/c is) for his trips to places?
bltserv
May 3, 06, 3:25 pm
A question:
Have there been any times when G.W. used the 737-700 (whatever the military designation for the a/c is) for his trips to places?
Its a Military C40B
Here is a pic
http://www.airplanesuperstore.com/DTc40b.JPG
I assume its the replacement for the aging 757.
Not sure if Bush has used it yet ?
YVR Cockroach
May 5, 06, 10:59 pm
Explanation:
Whatever aircraft the President of the United States is on
is given the radio call designation "Airforce 1".
More specifically, a USAF aircraft.
Mateo4321
May 5, 06, 11:02 pm
If a 777 can go TIJ-NGO, a 747 can go from SNA
:D
mbstone
May 6, 06, 7:27 am
I think SNA is too small for a 747.
In any case, when the Prez visits Orange County he generally lands at the well-guarded Los Alamitos military airfield which is about 5 mi E of LGB.
SFO_Runner
May 6, 06, 7:59 am
I think a 747 would've landed quite easily at El Toro :p
SNA_Flyer
May 8, 06, 10:52 am
Yes, it would have, unfortunately the NIMBY's had their way.
A 747 wouldn't work at SNA, the runway is too short. An A300 is the largest jet that lands at SNA.
silverkris168
May 8, 06, 1:09 pm
I think a 747 would've landed quite easily at El Toro :p
Well, it's closed, right? What are they going to do with the land?
Well, it's closed, right? What are they going to do with the land?
Voters have elected to make El Toro a "great park"...aka money-pit designed for special interests...
Back on-topic...if any heavy or security sensitive aircraft needs to be deployed to Orange County the Los Alamitos Armed Forces Reserve Center has over 10K of rwy.