I think Advantage's award Asia zone 2 to south Pacific, for only 50,000 miles seems to be the furthest you can go, on a per mile basis. You can go on this award from SRI LANKA to TAHITI (connecting in either Japan or Australia). Bad part is Advantage won't allow even ONE stopover since it's different "zones/regions".
Just curious if there are other awards you can travel great distances for low cost per mile awards.
DutchMember
Apr 7, 06, 10:36 pm
What about a miles sAAver award North America - South America (YVR - PUQ) - 7675 miles for 40,000 AA miles ?
nako
Apr 7, 06, 11:10 pm
What about a miles sAAver award North America - South America (YVR - PUQ) - 7675 miles for 40,000 AA miles ?
If you're going to do that, you might as well begin in ANC - it's close to 9k miles for that 40k award.
Also, for a 20k saver award on AS, one can fly between Barrow, AK and Miami, FL, which is about 4200 miles as the crow flies.
In terms of actual flying, the one-stopover rule on domestic AA awards could work to one's advantage in maximizing actual flying.
Mike
flyrights
Apr 8, 06, 2:59 am
If PUQ is in southern argentina or southern Chili, the AA award from Anchorage would be around 9,500 miles, 40,000 miles OFF season award... which is around .23 award miles per mileage flown. VERY rough figures. Not sure what the regular mileage award is, but it's probably 50,000 or 60,000, which would make it a little MORE per mile flown.
the Advantage award from Sri Lanka to Tahiti, VERY VERY rough figures on these routings:
#1 Columbo/Bangkok/Hong Kong on Cathay, then Hong Kong/Tokyo/Papette on JAL is around 11,000 miles, maybe more; VERY ROUGH figure, comes out around .22 per mile on a 50,000 mile award... year round.
#2 Columbo/Bangkok on Cathay, Bangkok/Sydney on Qantas, then Sydney/Papette on Air tahiti is around 11,000 miles, VERY ROUGH figures. comes out around .22 per mile on a 50,000 mile award, year round.
it would take someone with the ability to calculate mileage per segment, and more free time than i have.
hauteboy
Apr 8, 06, 4:13 am
Actually you can do even better on the North America - South America and Asia - South Pacific
Barrow, Alaska to Mount Stanley, Falklands and Sri Lanka to Easter Island
flyrights
Apr 8, 06, 6:17 am
Sri Lanka to Easter Island would add quite a bit more, maybe another 3,000 miles... making that award the furthest...
Columbo/Bangkok/Hong Kong/Tokyo/Papette/Easter Island, or
Columbo/Bangkok/Sydney/Papette/Easter Island
Remember: NO STOPOVERS permitted at any point...
50,000 Advantage miles, year round...
martian
Apr 8, 06, 1:45 pm
how about nrt-sin for 20k ua miles?
flyrights
Apr 8, 06, 10:56 pm
tokyo/singapore on united is 40,000 miles... not the best value per mileage.
the furthest/best value for distance i can see on United is:
20,000 miles WITHIN S. Asia, you could go from Sri Lanka to Indonesia...
or the award WITHIN OCEANEA for 20,000 miles, you can go from New Caledonia (near Australia) to Tahiti, which is quite far.
nothing really good with Delta...
on Northwest, the award for INSIDE AFRICA for 25,000 miles, you could go from Morocco to Mauritius, which is probably around 8,000 miles, connecting in Paris.
wanaflyforless
Apr 9, 06, 12:48 am
on Northwest, the award for INSIDE AFRICA for 25,000 miles, you could go from Morocco to Mauritius, which is probably around 8,000 miles, connecting in Paris.
You sure? I thought the 25K was only good on KQ flights...not going through anothe zone.
flyrights
Apr 9, 06, 4:53 am
The only restriction I saw with Northwest award inside africa are the awards from Africa to Asia, which is that you can't go through Europe... rules say you can earn/redeem on all KQ flights... same for Air France, so Morocco to Paris to Mauritius should be permitted for 25,000 miles. Strangly, or not strangly, the awards from Europe to Mauritius are 70,000 miles. good luck finding award seats though.
esofina
Apr 9, 06, 10:34 am
nothing really good with Delta...
CCS-ATL-SLC-HNL & return is quite reasonable, which is 13,000 miles for 35k.
martian
Apr 9, 06, 11:29 am
tokyo/singapore on united is 40,000 miles... not the best value per mileage.
the furthest/best value for distance i can see on United is:
20,000 miles WITHIN S. Asia, you could go from Sri Lanka to Indonesia...
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not true. if you use a united award with united miles (not a star alliance award) then it is 20k miles.
Flaflyer
Apr 9, 06, 11:51 am
NW standard is 50K US 49 to Europe, and "Europe" goes east to Moscow.
SEA-DTW-FRA-SVO is 7329 each way. If they let you add FAI-SEA it would add 1530 for 8859 total each way, but this routing does not pull up on nwa.com
Or take the Southern Route, one stop from LaLa Land to NyetNyet Land on on Skyteam DL: LAX-ATL-SVO is 7334 each way. 14,668 miles = 3.4 FF miles/mile flown.
Why anyone would want to do it, and on DL metal, is another question for their shrink to explain to us. :D
For flyrights: "around 9,500 miles, 40,000 miles OFF season award... which is around .23 award miles per mileage flown" I believe you mean 1 / 0.23 = 4.2 award miles per mile flown. (9,500 x 4.2 = 40,000)
johnep1
Apr 9, 06, 12:13 pm
I'm sure someone could make an insane routing starting in Hawaii and ending up in Central Europe. Requires the same number of miles as BOS-LON-BOS.
One could do HNL-DFW-JFK-LHR-IST and back in Y for 40k AA miles off-peak. That about 20,600 flown miles. Plus, you could stopover in New York and London.
NWA_5479
Apr 9, 06, 2:09 pm
NW is also anywhere in Asia to anywhere in asia is 20K. BKK-NRT-SIN-NRT-BKK included.
Business is 30K.
I agree that the Africa 25K is a great deal.
GUWonder
Apr 9, 06, 2:33 pm
NW is also anywhere in Asia to anywhere in asia is 20K. BKK-NRT-SIN-NRT-BKK included.
Business is 30K.
I agree that the Africa 25K is a great deal.
Stopovers permitted on that Asia-Asia itinerary there?
johnep1
Apr 9, 06, 2:39 pm
Stopovers permitted on that Asia-Asia itinerary there?
From nwa.com: "Stopovers are not permitted for travel within Asia Pacific/Micronesia, or within/between the United States, Alaska, Canada, Central America, Mexico, the Caribbean and Puerto Rico."
Looks like a stopover is not allowed on an Asia-Asia award.
gleff
Apr 9, 06, 2:43 pm
Well, we're starting to get up there in miles at 60k, but you could use a UA award to fly SJU-IAD-JFK-SFO-HKG-BKK-DPS... just shy of 28.5k flown miles roundtrip.
derpelikan
Apr 9, 06, 8:00 pm
Well, we're starting to get up there in miles at 60k, but you could use a UA award to fly SJU-IAD-JFK-SFO-HKG-BKK-DPS... just shy of 28.5k flown miles roundtrip.
thats a crazy routing :)
i personally think in asia uniteds saver awards to SIN, BKK are really good value .
both of them are more than 3300miles one way, so its great value.
but booking is normally impossible :)
i think the ANA award to HKG (20K miles) is a good and fair price too, as HKG is considered china these days.
dp
johnep1
Apr 9, 06, 9:50 pm
i think the ANA award to HKG (20K miles) is a good and fair price too, as HKG is considered china these days.
dp
Neither UA nor AA consider HKG to be China. Guess it's time to earn some ANA miles.
Kneel
Apr 10, 06, 12:04 am
We did SAN-ORD-LHR-MOW on 40,000 mile AA award tickets. At 7,247 it may not be the longest, but it was long and we got incredible value. At the time we were allowed to do one-week layovers in ORD both ways, and had 23.5 hour and 18.5 hour connect times in LHR which gave time for our first London experiences. We also had to return a bit early and were able to make the change for no cost.
At the time we didn't have enough miles for our family of 5, so I prevailed upon my parents to donate miles for two of the tickets to see all the grandkids (and us) twice (hence the two stopovers in ORD). So we leveraged each 40,000 miles of our own towards 12,708 travel miles. Ha Ha. Let's see if some one can beat that!
A legitimate routing that may work is SAN-ORD-DFW-LGW/LHR-MOW for 8,867 miles
Another great value could come from Delta. I don't know if they do it now, but I did some trips with stop-overs that were not enroute. However, at 50K miles it would be hard to beat AA's 40K off-season trips.
mcrt
Apr 10, 06, 12:22 am
Also, for a 20k saver award on AS, one can fly between Barrow, AK and Miami, FL, which is about 4200 miles as the crow flies.
On AS using the saver you can do ADK-AKN-ANC-SEA-LAX-DCA RT for a total of 11,831. You can probably do the milk run from ANC-SEA and add PDX or SFO in as well and get a few more miles. This is a 1.69 ff/flown ratio, not too bad.
flyrights
Apr 10, 06, 5:04 am
When I gave these original routings, I was figuring 11,000 miles, being the (VERY ROUGH) ONE WAY mileage.
#1 Columbo/Bangkok/Hong Kong on Cathay, then Hong Kong/Tokyo/Papette on JAL, then Papette/Easter Island on LAN
#2 Columbo/Bangkok on Cathay, Bangkok/Sydney on Qantas, then Sydney/Papette on Air tahiti, then Papette/Easter Island on LAN
Both of those are AROUND 14,000 miles EACH WAY, or 28,000 miles roundtrip for a 50,000 AA award, (no stopovers permitted). Therefore, the cost per mile is about 1.7 award miles per mile flown. (50,000 award miles divided by 22,000 miles flown = 1.7). The lower, the better "value".
I once did a Continental special award, 17,500 miles roundtrip: LAX/Houston/Sao Paulo/Newark/LAX... that might be the record for lowest cost per award mile. But for regular, non-"off peak" awards, I think the above AA awards still win.
jerry crump
Apr 10, 06, 10:15 pm
something tells me a frontier 15 K award to ANC has got to be in the running. I just have't researched where in the south they go from.
LGA
Apr 12, 06, 4:27 pm
something tells me a frontier 15 K award to ANC has got to be in the running. I just have't researched where in the south they go from.
Go to http://www.frontierairlines.com/ and click the "go" pop-up link under the "Where We Go" section (lower left side of the main page).
The furthest SE destinations are MCO, TPA, RSW, and FLL, but they also fly to IAH, SAT, AUS, DFW, LIT, TUL, OKC, ATL, and BNA. :)
LGA
Apr 18, 06, 9:42 am
I just (accidentally) found this link in my internet history...
Note they're adding service to Calgary - their first Canadian destination, I believe...
ElementK
Apr 18, 06, 5:08 pm
As someone else noted, originating in Hawaii gets you the continental rates rather than the mainlander rates. So HNL-JFK-<some domestic city> would be RT ~11,000 flown miles for an off-peak of 20,000 ff miles.
martian
Apr 18, 06, 6:06 pm
As someone else noted, originating in Hawaii gets you the continental rates rather than the mainlander rates. So HNL-JFK-<some domestic city> would be RT ~11,000 flown miles for an off-peak of 20,000 ff miles.