Sixt - New Sixt 2006 Thread!

Where is the old one gone? Anyway I suggest to collect all information on sixt in 2006 in this thread...

Where is the old one gone? Anyway I suggest to collect all information on sixt in 2006 in this thread...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5394797#post5394797post5394797

I reserved a car by Sixt but when I asked for the Gold card discount, was told it didn't apply. When I asked why, was given no explanation other than that it didn't apply. When does it apply and when doesn't it? This hire was near Christmas (Dec. 21-24) -- would that have been the reason?

Might have been a seasonal special - Sixt doesn't apply additional discounts for status customers on a lot of these specials.

I reserved a car by Sixt but when I asked for the Gold card discount, was told it didn't apply. When I asked why, was given no explanation other than that it didn't apply. When does it apply and when doesn't it? This hire was near Christmas (Dec. 21-24) -- would that have been the reason?

Note, that the Gold/Plat/Diamond Card and partner program discounts only apply to discountable rates. All internet and other special rates are not discountable!

Just to add: Sometimes the Gold discount (25% off the regular price) isn't the best deal anyway. But if you want to rent using the Gold or whatever discount you must say this in advance e.g. mention that you what to rent via Gold card or say that you'd like to use this and that CDP.

Note, that the Gold/Plat/Diamond Card and partner program discounts only apply to discountable rates. All internet and other special rates are not discountable!

Just to add: Sometimes the Gold discount (25% off the regular price) isn't the best deal anyway. But if you want to rent using the Gold or whatever discount you must say this in advance e.g. mention that you what to rent via Gold card or say that you'd like to use this and that CDP.

Ah, this is helpful info. I hadn't realized internet rates weren't discountable, but thanks for the tip for future car hires!

Note, that the Gold/Plat/Diamond Card and partner program discounts only apply to discountable rates.
Just to add: Sometimes the Gold discount (25% off the regular price) isn't the best deal anyway. But if you want to rent using the Gold or whatever discount you must say this in advance e.g. mention that you what to rent via Gold card or say that you'd like to use this and that CDP.

Are you sure about this: All internet and other special rates are not discountable!

I always log-in with my Platinum Card ... it says 35% discount. The prices I get are comparable to Sixtis. I never did a booking without mentioning Platinum, but I am going to try it in the next couple of days.

What is this? say that you'd like to use this and that CDP Are there any CPD codes out there? If yes, I would like to know them.. :D

Are you sure about this: All internet and other special rates are not discountable!

I always log-in with my Platinum Card ... it says 35% discount. The prices I get are comparable to Sixtis. I never did a booking without mentioning Platinum, but I am going to try it in the next couple of days.

What is this? say that you'd like to use this and that CDP Are there any CPD codes out there? If yes, I would like to know them.. :D
Hello USAFAN,

I have to be more precise in my posts in the future. So sorry for confusing you.

But to answer you question: Yes! All internet and other special rates are not discountable! But this only means you can't get a discount for the "best deals" offers and for the prices that are displayed, when you don't log in first but just do your booking via internet. The "normal" internet rates (if you do not log in with any card) are still discounted compared to the standard rates that you get when you book via phone without using any code. That's why this "normal" internet rates are sometimes cheaper than the 35% off from the Plat Card and much more often cheaper than the 25% off from the Gold Card. If you log in, your Plat Card internet rate is a discounted rate for sure!

Regarding CDP, I don't know any way to enter it when you book online like it works with Hertz or Europcar. But they have such codes and this codes are disposit at your Sixt card. That's why some people get 30% off with there Plat card (e.g. FB Gold) some 35% (e.g. LH SEN) and others 40% (e.g FB Plat.). It's not the card itself that gives you the discount but the code that is linked in the database. At least this is what I always thought and some Sixt stuff told me. I may be wrong in this case, so please correct/advice me if you think so.

Cheers
totti

...If you log in, your Plat Card internet rate is a discounted rate for sure!

Regarding CDP, I don't know any way to enter it when you book online like it works with Hertz or Europcar. But they have such codes and this codes are disposit at your Sixt card.....

Thanks.
So I am not missing something regarding CDP codes! :cool:
Anyway, I always check two or three rental companies for the best rates.
In the US I often end up with National (Emerald).
In Europe with Sixt or Avis (with some nice AWDs :D )

Hello USAFAN,

But to answer you question: Yes! All internet and other special rates are not discountable! But this only means you can't get a discount for the "best deals" offers and for the prices that are displayed, when you don't log in first but just do your booking via internet. The "normal" internet rates (if you do not log in with any card) are still discounted compared to the standard rates that you get when you book via phone without using any code. That's why this "normal" internet rates are sometimes cheaper than the 35% off from the Plat Card and much more often cheaper than the 25% off from the Gold Card. If you log in, your Plat Card internet rate is a discounted rate for sure!

Regarding CDP, I don't know any way to enter it when you book online like it works with Hertz or Europcar. But they have such codes and this codes are disposit at your Sixt card. That's why some people get 30% off with there Plat card (e.g. FB Gold) some 35% (e.g. LH SEN) and others 40% (e.g FB Plat.). It's not the card itself that gives you the discount but the code that is linked in the database. At least this is what I always thought and some Sixt stuff told me. I may be wrong in this case, so please correct/advice me if you think so.

Cheers
totti

Yes I second Totti in all of his comments, even the Plat card members can often be more expensive than the Internet offers. I have never been able to obtain a discount on a internet offer!! :confused:

But they have such codes and this codes are disposit at your Sixt card. That's why some people get 30% off with there Plat card (e.g. FB Gold) some 35% (e.g. LH SEN) and others 40% (e.g FB Plat.). It's not the card itself that gives you the discount but the code that is linked in the database.


This is correct...we have two Platinum cards in the family, one from LH SEN and one from renting a lot with Sixt, and the rate code that is displayed when you log in is different for each. Also confirmed by Sixt head office.

I can confirm that the 20% dicsount of the Happy Digits offer is often cheaper than my Platinum card's Corporate Rate. At least for short-term rentals that are less than a month. I guess the 20% of Happy Digits apply to the standard online rate, which is by itself discounted against the standard call-center rate.

O.T. but is Sixt actaully present in Italy or is it a partner company? I have been trying to get some help from Sixt for an Italy rental by phone and email and they seem very unknowledgeable and unhelpful...

I can confirm that the 20% dicsount of the Happy Digits offer is often cheaper than my Platinum card's Corporate Rate. At least for short-term rentals that are less than a month. I guess the 20% of Happy Digits apply to the standard online rate, which is by itself discounted against the standard call-center rate.

Happy Digits? What's that? Thanks!

Happy Digits? What's that? Thanks!

It's a permanent promo on the Sixt website.

I can confirm that the 20% dicsount of the Happy Digits offer is often cheaper than my Platinum card's Corporate Rate. At least for short-term rentals that are less than a month. I guess the 20% of Happy Digits apply to the standard online rate, which is by itself discounted against the standard call-center rate.
I don't like the "Happy Digits program" because I always thought that there is no real revenue (same with payback which is so useless most of the time). But after you posted the 20% off with happy digits I checked out the prices for my upcoming rental and it gives me a better rate compared to the plat or the internet one. ^ So thanks for this information.

Just another question. Is it possible the earn M&M miles when using the happy digits offer? And can I also double dip with HH? In this case it would be a triple dip, as one also gets the digits. So any experience with this.

Thanks again flysurfer to make me aware of this discount.

Cheers
totti

Happy Digits? What's that? Thanks!

It took me 5 min. to find this link

http://www.e-sixt.de/common/all/docs/rental/sixt_cards/index.php

"... profitieren Sie vom Bonusprogramm HappyDigits
2 Digits für jeden Euro Ihrer Abrechnung
20% Rabatt auf Sixt Mietwagen in Europa
10% Rabatt auf HolidayCars* bei Direktbuchung
tolle Prämien bei Sixt und vielen starken Partnern"

But what do I get for the "Digits"? Free rental days for xyz digits...?
Can somebody supply a link to the "Praemien"...

I don't like the "Happy Digits program" because I always thought that there is no real revenue (same with payback which is so useless most of the time). But after you posted the 20% off with happy digits I checked out the prices for my upcoming rental and it gives me a better rate compared to the plat or the internet one. ^ So thanks for this information.

Just another question. Is it possible the earn M&M miles when using the happy digits offer? And can I also double dip with HH? In this case it would be a triple dip, as one also gets the digits. So any experience with this.

Thanks again flysurfer to make me aware of this discount.

Cheers
totti

Yep, you can get the airline miles, and I guess you don't actually need to be a HD member, as nobody has ever asked for a proof of membership.

But what do I get for the "Digits"? Free rental days for xyz digits...?
Can somebody supply a link to the "Praemien"...

I found the link

https://www.happydigits.de/servlet/hdhtml/einloesen/highlights/index

Thanks, not for me ... :D

.....But after you posted the 20% off with happy digits I checked out the prices for my upcoming rental and it gives me a better rate compared to the plat or the internet one.....

Not for me.
My plat prices (35%) are better .... and I may get an upgrade :cool:
Happy Digits rates are in Euros....My plat prices are in dollars.

Not for me.
My plat prices (35%) are better .... and I may get an upgrade :cool:
.

You don't need to rent using the plat card prices (meaning to log in first) to get the upgrade. I booked special offers serveral times without using the plat log-in but entered my plat number at step 3 "First the information, then the highway". And all the times I god my plat upgrade without even asking ^ As far as I know you just need to be a plat card holder to get the upgrade.

If you book a special rate that is attatched to lets say some sort of credit card (World Signia) do they check if you are elgible for that rate or can you use another credit card for example Visa Standard and profit from the low rate of lets say MC WS.

Thanks

Not for me.
My plat prices (35%) are better .... and I may get an upgrade :cool:
Happy Digits rates are in Euros....My plat prices are in dollars.

With HD promos, you still get the Plat./Diamond upgrade and the miles. I don't collect HDs, it's useless for me. Sometimes, the HD prices are better than a 35% discount. I always check both scenarios.

If you book a special rate that is attatched to lets say some sort of credit card (World Signia) do they check if you are elgible for that rate or can you use another credit card for example Visa Standard and profit from the low rate of lets say MC WS.

Thanks
I can't tell you if it works with CC's but a friend got his Sixt plat card being FB Plat and so he gets 40% discount, but he always credit the miles to M&M. At least he told me that he is doing so and that he never had any problems.

I plan to rent a Sixti car for 2 weeks... am I allowed into East Europe?

I plan to rent a Sixti car for 2 weeks... am I allowed into East Europe?

It's nearly the same as with Sixt. You can find the following on the SIXTI homepage under "conditions":

Cross Border Rentals
Cross Border Rentals are not allowed for following countries: Albania, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Greece, North Africa, Romania, Russia, Serbia & Montenegro, Turkey, Ukraine und Belarus. Cross Border Rentals are allowed to the following countries but not with Audi, BMW, Mercedes, VW and all Special Cars and Offroader: Estonia, Croatia, Hungary , Lettland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia (Exception Trucks, Minibuses and Vans). In case of offence against Cross Border & Territorial Restrictions all insurances lose their validity.

So make sure that you don't want an Audi, BMW, Mercedes or VW. You can mentioned it in the rental form under special comments.

Hope that answers your question.
Cheers
totti

Aha, thanks.. I did find restrictions under the regular Sixt.com, but not under Sixti. In fact, that's what I found under Sixti:

http://www.sixti.com/en/car_rental_conditions/agb_DE.html

Recently I checked the Sixt rate plan and noted that they added about 20,- Euros to each car group weekend rate. Other rates stay unchanged. After my discount I have to pay e.g. for groupe ECMR 10 Euro more and for groupe LDAR 16,- Euro. With airport rental surcharge this becomes a serious factor...
Not long time ago I rented LDAR groupe for less than 90,- Euros per weekend, while it is now 110,- :(


B.T.W. What is your experience with long time rental (one month)? Sixt told me that they do not upgrade for LT rental in general, but did anybody experienced something else?

Sixt told me that they do not upgrade for LT rental in general, but did anybody experienced something else?

Unfurtunately, this is true. However, I made a deal the last time and paid a nominal upfare of EUR 50 to get the car I really wanted on a 35 day rental, so the agent was in the clear, as they just aren't allowed to offer free upgrades on LT rentals.

Recently I checked the Sixt rate plan and noted that they added about 20,- Euros to each car group weekend rate. Other rates stay unchanged. After my discount I have to pay e.g. for groupe ECMR 10 Euro more and for groupe LDAR 16,- Euro. With airport rental surcharge this becomes a serious factor...
Not long time ago I rented LDAR groupe for less than 90,- Euros per weekend, while it is now 110,- :(


B.T.W. What is your experience with long time rental (one month)? Sixt told me that they do not upgrade for LT rental in general, but did anybody experienced something else?



Not really,

here are the SEN Rates:
Raten für : Lufthansa Miles & More Senator
Rate: INTER. STANDARD -35%

Code:
Beispielfahrzeug
Tag
inkl. aller km
Woche
inkl. aller km
Wochenende
inkl. aller km
Monat
inkl. 4000 km
Zusatz km

ECMR
VW Polo
€ 55,80
€ 276,72
€ 61,07
€ 617,53
€ 0,09

CDMR
Alfa Romeo 147
€ 61,07
€ 302,35
€ 62,58
€ 681,62
€ 0,12

CLMR
VW Golf
€ 62,58
€ 308,39
€ 64,09
€ 695,19
€ 0,12

CXMR
VW Golf *NAVI*
€ 64,09
€ 317,43
€ 67,11
€ 732,89
€ 0,12

CPMR
BMW 1er
€ 67,86
€ 334,78
€ 66,35
€ 760,79
€ 0,12

CWMR
Ford Focus Turnier
€ 63,34
€ 314,42
€ 64,84
€ 706,50
€ 0,12

CYMR
Ford Focus Turnier *NAVI*
€ 64,84
€ 323,47
€ 67,86
€ 744,20
€ 0,12

IDMR
Peugeot 407
€ 67,86
€ 337,04
€ 66,35
€ 766,82
€ 0,13

ILMR
VW Passat
€ 68,61
€ 340,81
€ 67,86
€ 772,10
€ 0,13

IXMR
Ford Mondeo *NAVI*
€ 70,12
€ 349,86
€ 70,88
€ 809,80
€ 0,13

IWMR
VW Passat Variant
€ 68,61
€ 340,81
€ 68,61
€ 785,67
€ 0,13

IYMR
VW Passat Variant *NAVI*
€ 70,12
€ 349,86
€ 71,63
€ 823,37
€ 0,13

SDMR
Mercedes-Benz B-Klasse
€ 90,48
€ 429,03
€ 70,12
€ 925,16
€ 0,14

SXMR
Alfa Romeo 159 *NAVI*
€ 91,99
€ 438,07
€ 73,14
€ 962,86
€ 0,14

SWMR
Volvo V50
€ 91,99
€ 435,06
€ 71,63
€ 950,04
€ 0,14

SYMR
Volvo V50 *NAVI*
€ 93,50
€ 444,11
€ 74,65
€ 987,74
€ 0,14

FDMR
BMW 3er
€ 97,27
€ 461,45
€ 72,38
€ 1.005,84
€ 0,17

FXMR
Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse *NAVI*
€ 98,77
€ 470,50
€ 75,40
€ 1.043,54
€ 0,17

FWMR
Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse T-Modell
€ 98,77
€ 467,48
€ 73,89
€ 1.030,72
€ 0,17

FYMR
BMW 3er Touring *NAVI*
€ 100,28
€ 476,53
€ 76,91
€ 1.068,42
€ 0,17

PDMR
Mercedes-Benz E220
€ 120,64
€ 499,15
€ 75,40
€ 1.200,37
€ 0,19

PWMR
Mercedes-Benz E220 CDI T-Modell
€ 121,39
€ 504,43
€ 76,15
€ 1.213,19
€ 0,19

LDAR
Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 123,66
€ 511,97
€ 77,66
€ 1.232,04
€ 0,20

LWAR
BMW 525/530d Touring
€ 124,41
€ 517,24
€ 77,66
€ 1.243,35
€ 0,20

XDAR
Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse
€ 180,96
€ 895,75
€ 204,33
€ 1.967,94
€ 0,28

IVMR
Ford Focus C-Max
€ 70,12
€ 346,84
€ 82,94
€ 791,70
€ 0,13

SVMR
Ford Galaxy
€ 122,90
€ 557,96
€ 84,45
€ 1.228,27
€ 0,14

FVMR
Mercedes-Benz Vito
€ 132,70
€ 655,98
€ 156,83
€ 1.383,59
€ 0,17

Wochenende gültig von Fr 12 Uhr - Mo 9 Uhr
Preise inklusive Mehrwertsteuer. Änderungen vorbehalten.
Diese Preisliste ist nur gültig am 13.11.2006.

Recently I checked the Sixt rate plan and noted that they added about 20,- Euros to each car group weekend rate. Other rates stay unchanged. [...]

Yes, Yokdoc, I made the same experience as a Sixt Platinum Card holder.
It seems, they let some rate planes unchanged and some not.

Not really,

here are the SEN Rates:
Raten für : Lufthansa Miles & More Senator
Rate: INTER. STANDARD -35%

Code:
Beispielfahrzeug
Tag
inkl. aller km
Woche
inkl. aller km
Wochenende
inkl. aller km
Monat
inkl. 4000 km
Zusatz km

LDAR
Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 123,66
€ 511,97
€ 77,66
€ 1.232,04

Wochenende gültig von Fr 12 Uhr - Mo 9 Uhr
Preise inklusive Mehrwertsteuer. Änderungen vorbehalten.
Diese Preisliste ist nur gültig am 13.11.2006.

Thanks kwoj for submitting your most recent rates...

I learned from it that I should not complain too much...

When I compared my favorite car group, LDAR, rates (always upgraded to XDAR), with your LH senator rate plan, I come to the conclusion that my rates are not that bad. Or in other words: you just have unbelievable cheap weekend rates...

Here comes my LDAR rate

91,20
340,81
109,20
953,39
:)

Thanks kwoj for submitting your most recent rates...

I learned from it that I should not complain too much...

When I compared my favorite car group, LDAR, rates (always upgraded to XDAR), with your LH senator rate plan, I come to the conclusion that my rates are not that bad. Or in other words: you just have unbelievable cheap weekend rates...

Here comes my LDAR rate

91,20
340,81
109,20
953,39
:)

I am Sixt Plat as well and my rates are similar to kwoj's. I really like the weekend rates! But your rates for all other rentals beside weekends are great ^

My LDAR rates (including CDW/LDW), excluding VAT:

€ 91,30
€ 383,50
€ 151,60
€ 932,00

Since I don't need the insurance for rentals of less than 30 days, I sometimes use different rates such as the SEN rate w/o insurance.

Strangely, if I log in with my account, even the standard Internet rates (officially not discountable) will get me an additional 19% discount as soon as I get to the confirmation page. These prices appear to unbeatable this X-Mas, as I was quoted a BMW 3 series with a monthly rate of about EUR 600 incl. VAT and everything.

My LDAR rates (including CDW/LDW), excluding VAT:

€ 91,30
€ 383,50
€ 151,60
€ 932,00

.
Please note, my rates do NOT include CDW/LDW! @flysurfer What is the rate code (something like "DEFIR000") of this?

Please note, my rates do NOT include CDW/LDW! @flysurfer What is the rate code (something like "DEFIR000") of this?

It's the standard journalist rate.

My LDAR rates (including CDW/LDW), excluding VAT:

€ 91,30
€ 383,50
€ 151,60
€ 932,00


So at least my weekend rates seem to be much better as it is 77 EUR including VAT for LDAR. ^

Since I don't need the insurance for rentals of less than 30 days, I sometimes use different rates such as the SEN rate w/o insurance.
Same here.


Strangely, if I log in with my account, even the standard Internet rates (officially not discountable) will get me an additional 19% discount as soon as I get to the confirmation page. These prices appear to unbeatable this X-Mas, as I was quoted a BMW 3 series with a monthly rate of about EUR 600 incl. VAT and everything.
This is a great rate indeed ^

Pricing at Sixt is quite intransparent and if someone really what's to get a cheap shot he needs to try more than one option e.g. not only entering the Sixt Card number but make a dummy booking using internet rate or the happy digit rate.

Anyway Sixt is my preferred rental company in Germany.

So at least my weekend rates seem to be much better as it is 77 EUR including VAT for LDAR. ^

Yep, that's because insurance is expensive for those premum cars on any day, whereas rental rates of premium cars are low over the weekend due to minimal demand from businesses.

Not really,

here are the SEN Rates:
Raten für : Lufthansa Miles & More Senator
Rate: INTER. STANDARD -35%

Code:
Beispielfahrzeug
Tag
inkl. aller km
Woche
inkl. aller km
Wochenende
inkl. aller km
Monat
inkl. 4000 km
Zusatz km

[...]

LDAR
Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 123,66
€ 511,97
€ 77,66
€ 1.232,04
€ 0,20

Wochenende gültig von Fr 12 Uhr - Mo 9 Uhr
Preise inklusive Mehrwertsteuer. Änderungen vorbehalten.
Diese Preisliste ist nur gültig am 13.11.2006.

Hy all,

could you check (let´s say LDAR) the weekend-rates (international -35%,
LH SEN e.g.) for the time after April 07, please?

I see an increase of more than 100%!

Hy all,

could you check (let´s say LDAR) the weekend-rates (international -35%,
LH SEN e.g.) for the time after April 07, please?

I see an increase of more than 100%!



Hi,

here are my example:

Tarif:
INTER. STANDARD -35% - Wochenendtarif (Flexi)

Abholung: Düsseldorf Zentrum/Bahnhof - 4.5.2007 / 12:00

Rückgabe: Düsseldorf Zentrum/Bahnhof - 7.5.2007 / 9:00

Wählen Sie aus der Angebotsliste
Limousinen
€ 82,76* VW Polo

€ 93,59* Alfa Romeo 147

€ 95,14* VW Golf

€ 101,33* BMW 1er

€ 108,29* Peugeot 407

€ 109,06* VW Passat

€ 113,70* Mercedes-Benz B-Klasse

€ 124,47* BMW 3er

€ 147,68* Mercedes-Benz E220

€ 152,32* Mercedes Benz E280 CDI

€ 227,41* Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse

Kombis
€ 97,46* Ford Focus Turnier

€ 109,84* VW Passat Variant

€ 113,70* Volvo V50

€ 127,57* Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse T-Modell

€ 149,23* Mercedes-Benz E220 CDI T-Modell

€ 154,70* BMW 525/530d Touring

Minibusse

Hi,

here are my example:

Tarif:
INTER. STANDARD -35% - Wochenendtarif (Flexi)


€ 154,70* BMW 525/530d Touring

Minibusse

Exactly the same price :mad:
If you book directly without having ANY airline-/hotel-status, the rate is 160,77. 6 EUR off for being LH SEN or Sixt Platinum????
Are they kidding???

Wow! It's gone UP!!!

€ 107,52* VW Polo
€ 115,25* Alfa Romeo 147
€ 116,80* VW Golf
€ 122,93* BMW 1er
€ 127,57* Peugeot 407
€ 128,40* VW Passat
€ 132,21* Mercedes-Benz B-Klasse
€ 141,49* BMW 3er
€ 160,06* Mercedes-Benz E220
€ 165,53* Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 327,96* Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse

That's with Sixt plat number. I already got an E280CDI for €77 on the SAME weekend. Will Sixt honour my €77?

That's with Sixt plat number. I already got an E280CDI for €77 on the SAME weekend. Will Sixt honour my €77?
Yes, the rental agreement is being created at time of booking, so don´t worry.

Called Sixt yesterday and they confirmed that the rates will go up on 02/01/07 and 06/01/07 step-by-step for all discountable rates like LH SEN, SPG Plat, Sixt Platinum and so on.
:td:

Bye, bye Sixt. Europcar is waiting (at least here in Germany)

Yes, the rental agreement is being created at time of booking, so don´t worry.

Called Sixt yesterday and they confirmed that the rates will go up on 02/01/07 and 06/01/07 step-by-step for all discountable rates like LH SEN, SPG Plat, Sixt Platinum and so on.
:td:

Bye, bye Sixt. Europcar is waiting (at least here in Germany)



Hi,

Sixt told me yesterday that it is only a technical problem, and that they do not intend to change the rates. According to the hotline(Kundenservice) the bug should be fixed until monday.

kwoj

Totally different answers. :confused:
Let´s hope so, kwoj!

Does Europcar do status matching? I am trying to consolidate my car rental points and I don't get Hertz points from renting in Europe (:td: IMHO).

My sixt rate has changed, too! For LDAR additional 50 €??? Are they kidding? I´ve usually paid 114,80 € in January!

Hello,

I'm renting quite frequently with Sixt after I turned down on Europcar with their poor service and poor car choice in some car sizes.
Though I can only tell about good up to perfect customer service, I was as a Plat never upgraded to a XDAR out of LDAR in renting that size more than 30 times. But the new price changes are crazy. If they stick on to these, I will discontinue my loyalty.
AND, I hope they won't stick to those rates.
Luckily, I still have one reservation in hand :-)
Best wishes,

HamburgAround

Hi,

Sixt told me yesterday that it is only a technical problem, and that they do not intend to change the rates. According to the hotline(Kundenservice) the bug should be fixed until monday.

kwoj

Unfortunately not. The rates are still unchanged and I ask myself, what we can do in this case. Writing a letter of complaint? What´s your suggestion?

Hello,

Hotline confirmed yesterday that it is not a bug, and prices will go up.
My suggestion is to switch over to for example Europcar.
They have very competitve rates if you use Contract ID 80496823.
Or if you are a Member of ADAC you could use CDP 611111 from Hertz. They currently have an Airport Weekend Special. With this Special you pay only 128€ for a 5 Series BMW (includes CDW and Airport Fee).

80496823 - it only shows American airports if I use that.

Just had another rental this weekend and everything was pretty good. As always the great LDAR weekend rate 78 EUR all inkl. and really great service.

I also tried a dummy booking for May and I get my normal weekend rate. So I guess no need to worry, at least for me :rolleyes: :)

Does Europcar do status matching? I am trying to consolidate my car rental points and I don't get Hertz points from renting in Europe (:td: IMHO).

I asked the same question some month ago. So sometimes the search function is worth a try ;) :) The discussion can be found here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=542550). They will probably match you if you can prove that you earned your Sixt plat status and did not get it via airline or hotel status.

After I tried Europcar some times I stick with Sixt and Hertz. I use Siyt for most of my european rental and Hertz in the US and elsewhere.

Cheers
totti

Hotline confirmed yesterday that it is not a bug, and prices will go up.
My suggestion is to switch over to for example Europcar.
They have very competitve rates if you use Contract ID 80496823.
Or if you are a Member of ADAC you could use CDP 611111 from Hertz. They currently have an Airport Weekend Special. With this Special you pay only 128€ for a 5 Series BMW (includes CDW and Airport Fee).



Just received booking confirmation from SIXT for renting CLMR (VW Golf, MB A-Class) using my Sixt Plat (-35%) for incredible expensive 88EUR/WE!!!

Called Sixt, hotline insisted in having applied correct offline price. After discussion about price of my last LDAR=77EUR weekend rentings, hotline put me on hold for about 4 minutes. Was told that SIXT has system problems, got the CLMR for 77EUR/WE, but still far away from the "old" Sixt Plat price.... :confused: :confused: :confused:

I wrote a complaint! Let´s see what happens:confused:

I wrote a complaint! Let´s see what happens:confused:

^ I wrote mine today and hope for an answer...

Just received booking confirmation from SIXT for renting CLMR (VW Golf, MB A-Class) using my Sixt Plat (-35%) for incredible expensive 88EUR/WE!!!

Called Sixt, hotline insisted in having applied correct offline price. After discussion about price of my last LDAR=77EUR weekend rentings, hotline put me on hold for about 4 minutes. Was told that SIXT has system problems, got the CLMR for 77EUR/WE, but still far away from the "old" Sixt Plat price.... :confused: :confused: :confused:

Welcome to FT FRA_Flyer!

Shouldn't you even get 40% of as your profil shows you are a HON. So you must be able to get even better rates than the rest of us…

But again: I just checked you reservations for the upcoming month and so far everything is fine for me. Maybe I am just in luck here.

Cheers
totti

For Airports / Train Stations, add the usual 19%... :eek:

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Raten für : Lufthansa Miles & More Senator
Rate: INTER. STANDARD -35%

Code:
Beispielfahrzeug
Tag
inkl. aller km
Woche
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inkl. aller km
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inkl. 4000 km
Zusatz km

ECMR
VW Polo
€ 60,33
€ 297,80
€ 72,71
€ 664,44
€ 0,13

CDMR
Alfa Romeo 147
€ 65,75
€ 326,42
€ 78,90
€ 734,05
€ 0,15

CLMR
VW Golf
€ 67,29
€ 332,60
€ 80,44
€ 749,52
€ 0,15

CXMR
VW Golf *NAVI*
€ 68,84
€ 341,89
€ 83,54
€ 788,20
€ 0,15

CPMR
BMW 1er
€ 72,71
€ 360,45
€ 85,08
€ 819,14
€ 0,15

CWMR
Ford Focus Turnier
€ 68,84
€ 338,79
€ 81,99
€ 761,12
€ 0,15

CYMR
Ford Focus Turnier *NAVI*
€ 70,39
€ 348,07
€ 85,08
€ 799,80
€ 0,15

IDMR
Peugeot 407
€ 73,48
€ 363,54
€ 88,18
€ 826,87
€ 0,18

ILMR
VW Passat
€ 74,26
€ 366,64
€ 89,73
€ 831,51
€ 0,18

IXMR
Ford Mondeo *NAVI*
€ 75,80
€ 375,92
€ 92,82
€ 870,19
€ 0,18

IWMR
VW Passat Variant
€ 74,26
€ 366,64
€ 90,50
€ 844,66
€ 0,18

IYMR
VW Passat Variant *NAVI*
€ 75,80
€ 375,92
€ 93,59
€ 883,34
€ 0,18

SDMR
Mercedes-Benz B-Klasse
€ 97,46
€ 461,78
€ 92,82
€ 997,04
€ 0,19

SXMR
Mercedes-Benz B-Klasse *NAVI*
€ 99,01
€ 471,06
€ 95,91
€ 1.035,72
€ 0,19

SWMR
Volvo V50
€ 99,01
€ 467,97
€ 93,59
€ 1.024,11
€ 0,19

SYMR
Volvo V50 *NAVI*
€ 100,55
€ 477,25
€ 96,69
€ 1.062,79
€ 0,19

FDMR
BMW 3er
€ 104,42
€ 497,36
€ 99,78
€ 1.084,45
€ 0,24

FXMR
Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse *NAVI*
€ 105,97
€ 506,64
€ 102,88
€ 1.123,12
€ 0,24

FWMR
Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse T-Modell
€ 105,97
€ 503,55
€ 102,10
€ 1.109,97
€ 0,24

FYMR
BMW 3er Touring *NAVI*
€ 107,52
€ 512,83
€ 105,20
€ 1.148,65
€ 0,24

PDMR
Mercedes-Benz E200/220
€ 129,95
€ 537,58
€ 112,93
€ 1.293,29
€ 0,26

PWMR
Mercedes-Benz E200/220 CDI T-Modell
€ 131,50
€ 543,00
€ 113,70
€ 1.306,44
€ 0,26

LDAR
Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 133,04
€ 551,51
€ 116,02
€ 1.326,55
€ 0,27

LWAR
BMW 525/530d Touring
€ 134,59
€ 556,92
€ 117,57
€ 1.339,70
€ 0,27

XDAR
Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse
€ 194,92
€ 965,33
€ 218,90
€ 2.119,39
€ 0,38

IVMR
Ford Focus C-Max
€ 75,80
€ 374,37
€ 97,46
€ 853,94
€ 0,18

SVMR
Ford Galaxy
€ 132,27
€ 599,46
€ 127,63
€ 1.321,91
€ 0,19

FVMR
Mercedes-Benz Vito
€ 142,32
€ 706,98
€ 205,75
€ 1.490,53
€ 0,24

Wochenende gültig von Fr 12 Uhr - Mo 9 Uhr
Preise inklusive Mehrwertsteuer. Änderungen vorbehalten.
Diese Preisliste ist nur gültig am 01.02.2007.

LDAR
Mercedes Benz E280 CDI
€ 133,04
€ 551,51
€ 116,02
€ 1.326,55
€ 0,27


What´s your input, crossings?
Yes, these rates are valid until 05/31 and after 06/01 I get the following results for LDAR:

133,04/day
551,51/week
152,32/weekend :mad:
1.468,97/month

What´s your input, crossings?


These prices are already way above last year's weekend prices (that's why I posted them)... and they are going up even further??? :mad:

These prices are already way above last year's weekend prices (that's why I posted them)... and they are going up even further??? :mad:

As you can see: Check out your LH SEN rate after 06/01...

update: The rates, crossings listed, are now valid and there´s no further raise: It seems, the complaints were successfully. ^

But the 70 EUR/weekend- rates are definitely gone.

The internet booking engine is completely messed up.

As a test I tried a simple quote for a CLMR for Lisbon for the weekend 16/2 - 18/2

- Standard Rate over the internet €138.30
- Platinum Rate over the internet €156.56
- Platinum Rate over the phone €55.00

The rep couldn't really explain why this was happening

update: The rates, crossings listed, are now valid and there´s no further raise: It seems, the complaints were successfully. ^

But the 70 EUR/weekend- rates are definitely gone.

I just spoke to some Sixt rep and she told me that they have problems with their database on the website. I was still able to book a car for the "normal" low weekend rate via phone ^ My LDAR price is way below the one posted by crossings.

Cheers
totti

Has anyone had problems getting airline mileage to post for Sixt rentals? I rented in Athens in December 2006 but forgot to provide my UA member number. Wrote to customer service in January providing my UA number and was told the credit will be deposited. Checked my UA account today but the miles are not there. What's the typical lag time until miles are posted? Thanks.

Has anyone had problems getting airline mileage to post for Sixt rentals? I rented in Athens in December 2006 but forgot to provide my UA member number. Wrote to customer service in January providing my UA number and was told the credit will be deposited. Checked my UA account today but the miles are not there. What's the typical lag time until miles are posted? Thanks.
I normally use my M&M account for Sixt rentals and miles post within one or two weeks. The only thing that normally doesn't work is double dipping with M&M and HH. In former times it wasn't any problem but since 5 month the HH points never posted but the LH miles did. So I always have to contact HH to get things done.

I just spoke to some Sixt rep and she told me that they have problems with their database on the website. I was still able to book a car for the "normal" low weekend rate via phone ^ My LDAR price is way below the one posted by crossings.

Cheers
totti

What I cannot understand is the inconsistency within those rates - for what reason is the internet-rate which everybody can book substantially cheaper than a 35% discount?

I hope they will fix it soon, or they will loose a quite good customer...

BTW: Totti, which rate do you use to for your weekend rates?

Cheers Felix

I just spoke to some Sixt rep and she told me that they have problems with their database on the website. I was still able to book a car for the "normal" low weekend rate via phone ^ My LDAR price is way below the one posted by crossings.

Cheers
totti

You seem to have another program (which one?), because even when the rates went up to 160/weekend, you had still the unchanged ones. :confused:

Sixt Diamond rates were raised too. My LDAR weekend rate is now 90 Eur plus VAT. I wrote a complaint. I hope they will give me an good answer.:td:

What I cannot understand is the inconsistency within those rates - for what reason is the internet-rate which everybody can book substantially cheaper than a 35% discount?


Sixt Gold card rates (20-25% off) and Sixt Plat and Dia rates (30-40%) off can be booked at any time via phone, internet or at the station, even at the moment of renting while internet rates are normally only available some days or even weeks in advance and can be only book via internet (name says it all ;) ) So that's the most important difference and it all known that sometimes intenet rates can be cheaper than the standard rate wth 30 or 40% off.

Cheers
totti

You seem to have another program (which one?), because even when the rates went up to 160/weekend, you had still the unchanged ones. :confused:

I always use the CDP which gives me the best price. Last two times it was the LH SEN Credit Card rate which is a little different to the normal SEN rate but appears to have the same name in your profile "Standard Internet Rate Senator). Sometimes the Amex rates were much better so I used this one. I can only tell you that I rented every weekend this year so far and always got a great rate. Maybe I am just lucky? :confused:

I hope that the good old internet rates are comming back, as I can only see the ones posted by crossings right now via internet. But as I still pointed out before I still got a "normal" rate via phone :confused:

I'll keep my eyes wide open and will report here, if something changes.

Cheers
totti

I always use the CDP which gives me the best price. Last two times it was the LH SEN Credit Card rate which is a little different to the normal SEN rate but appears to have the same name in your profile "Standard Internet Rate Senator). Sometimes the Amex rates were much better so I used this one. I can only tell you that I rented every weekend this year so far and always got a great rate. Maybe I am just lucky? :confused:

Cheers
totti

Could totti please be a bit more specific in terms of CDP numbers. I think the tariffs we are all using is either L4 (sixt diamond) or L3 (Lufthansa Miles & More Senator), which comes with the visa gold credit card.
So which CDPs are the ones for the normal senator rate? I wasnt aware that there is a different one?

Obviously Amex rate is another possibility, but very bad at airports, only useful for small cars at normal rental stations.

Cheers,
Dan

Could totti please be a bit more specific in terms of CDP numbers. I think the tariffs we are all using is either L4 (sixt diamond) or L3 (Lufthansa Miles & More Senator), which comes with the visa gold credit card.
So which CDPs are the ones for the normal senator rate? I wasnt aware that there is a different one?

Obviously Amex rate is another possibility, but very bad at airports, only useful for small cars at normal rental stations.

Cheers,
Dan

You are right Dan!! But maybe totti lives in a parallel universe which is one year behind ours in time??? :-: :-: :-: So his rates are still the same!

Maybe this is the answer for this strange things that happens to totti? ;)


greetz Alex

I always use the CDP which gives me the best price. Last two times it was the LH SEN Credit Card rate which is a little different to the normal SEN rate but appears to have the same name in your profile "Standard Internet Rate Senator). Sometimes the Amex rates were much better so I used this one. I can only tell you that I rented every weekend this year so far and always got a great rate. Maybe I am just lucky? :confused:

I hope that the good old internet rates are comming back, as I can only see the ones posted by crossings right now via internet. But as I still pointed out before I still got a "normal" rate via phone :confused:

I'll keep my eyes wide open and will report here, if something changes.

Cheers
totti

Is sixt offering you the possibility to have serveral CDP´s on your Sixt-Expess Card? I think you can only have one CDP on your profile? And there is no possility to type any CDP online( via Phone ok, but there you don´t see any profile)? Or do you use a lot of express-cards with serveral Profile´s?:confused:

greetz Alex

Is sixt offering you the possibility to have serveral CDP´s on your Sixt-Expess Card? I think you can only have one CDP on your profile? And there is no possility to type any CDP online( via Phone ok, but there you don´t see any profile)? Or do you use a lot of express-cards with serveral Profile´s?:confused:

greetz Alex

You are absolutely right. I only have one CDP in my profile linked to my Sixt Card. BUt you can just call and tell the agent to try the "normal" CDP and than try some others as well. It might take you some time but can be worth it.

Cheers
totti

You are right Dan!! But maybe totti lives in a parallel universe which is one year behind ours in time??? :-: :-: :-: So his rates are still the same!

Maybe this is the answer for this strange things that happens to totti? ;)


greetz Alex

Obviously it must have been something like than. But it looks like my time machine is out of order now :( :mad: ;)

Called Sixt again as I got the "new" rates (much higher rates posted here) displayed in the internet yesterday. In addition to that the internet reservation tool wouldn't let me book a navi. for a FDMR car :confused: To make a long story short: the agent told me, that they changed all rates for weekend rental and that it's not a computer glitch… the really strange thing is that two days ago I was still able to book a car for the upcoming weekend in TXL for the normal low rate while now it is not possible anymore for a rental in MUC next weekend :mad:

I told him about others having the same problem (known from all your posts here) and he told me that there is nothing he can do for me. So I'll write a complain as well as suggested by Ben. If nothing happens I'll move my business to Hertz and collect 1,5k miles per rental into my BD account.

Greetings
totti

You are absolutely right. I only have one CDP in my profile linked to my Sixt Card. BUt you can just call and tell the agent to try the "normal" CDP and than try some others as well. It might take you some time but can be worth it.

Cheers
totti

I dont really get it to be honest.:confused:
On the one hand we have International Standard -35% (LH Gold credit card) and International Standard -40% (Hon Circle). On the other hand there is the gold (-25%), platinum rate (-35%) and amex (-40%). These are based on different tarrifs but due to the increase in the last weeks both are above 100e for LDAR on a weekend.
Is there any other tariff which is still around 70-80Euros? e.g. a normal senator rate?

I got the reply from sixt to my complaint letter. really funny. they are suggesting that I book ECMN to IWMR because than the probability is higher that I get an upgrade with my platinum card. And appearantly the platinum prices are much lower for weekends than internet and private customer rates.

however, they defend their price increase and stick to it. even though they didnt really. They wanted to increase prices by a further 50% on 1st april. Then they postponed to 1st june and now they scrapped the 2nd increase completely.
so maybe if more of you write complains it will help further.

Even though this is not the right thread here: anybody suggestions for CDP/ID at europcar and hertz if we all decide to change?

I got the reply from sixt to my complaint letter. really funny.


And that´s the answer to my complaint. Please let me know if there is the need to translate the reply.



Sehr geehrter Ben,

vielen Dank für Ihre offenen Worte. Ihre Verärgerung kann ich sehr gut verstehen.

Unseren „Vielmietern“ bieten wir neben einem Premium - Service auch einen besonderen Preis. Aus diesem Grund haben wir Ihnen eine persönliche
Platinumcard zugeschickt und einen Sondertarif hinterlegt.

Wie bei allen Unternehmen richtet sich unsere Preispolitik nach Angebot und Nachfrage.
Bitte haben Sie Verständnis, dass sich Preisanpassungen nicht immer vermeiden lassen. Wir versichern Ihnen, dass wir uns die Entscheidung, die Preise zu erhöhen, nicht leicht gemacht haben.

Unser Tipp: auf unserer Internetseite halten wir wechselnde Angebote für Sie bereit.


Freundliche Grüße


Sixt GmbH & Co. Autovermietung KG
Kundenbetreuung
Trelleborger Strasse 9
18107 Rostock
Tel.: 0180-5260026
Fax.: 0180-5254450

I got the reply from sixt to my complaint letter. really funny. they are suggesting that I book ECMN to IWMR because than the probability is higher that I get an upgrade with my platinum card. And appearantly the platinum prices are much lower for weekends than internet and private customer rates.

however, they defend their price increase and stick to it. even though they didnt really. They wanted to increase prices by a further 50% on 1st april. Then they postponed to 1st june and now they scrapped the 2nd increase completely.
so maybe if more of you write complains it will help further.

Even though this is not the right thread here: anybody suggestions for CDP/ID at europcar and hertz if we all decide to change?
Actually I don't get it either. The only thing that I can tell you is that I was able to book LDAR for ~85 EUR at the beginning of this week, although the increasing prices were still posted here on FT. For this reservation I used my "normal" plat rate connected to my earned plat card. Anyway it looks like the really good rates are gone!

And that´s the answer to my complaint. Please let me know if there is the need to translate the reply.



Sehr geehrter Ben,

vielen Dank für Ihre offenen Worte. Ihre Verärgerung kann ich sehr gut verstehen.

Unseren „Vielmietern“ bieten wir neben einem Premium - Service auch einen besonderen Preis. Aus diesem Grund haben wir Ihnen eine persönliche
Platinumcard zugeschickt und einen Sondertarif hinterlegt.

Wie bei allen Unternehmen richtet sich unsere Preispolitik nach Angebot und Nachfrage.
Bitte haben Sie Verständnis, dass sich Preisanpassungen nicht immer vermeiden lassen. Wir versichern Ihnen, dass wir uns die Entscheidung, die Preise zu erhöhen, nicht leicht gemacht haben.

Unser Tipp: auf unserer Internetseite halten wir wechselnde Angebote für Sie bereit.


Freundliche Grüße


Sixt GmbH & Co. Autovermietung KG
Kundenbetreuung
Trelleborger Strasse 9
18107 Rostock
Tel.: 0180-5260026
Fax.: 0180-5254450

The reply makes sense to me. In the last month it was difficult to get a car for weekends on short notice and the station manager from "Frankfurt Zenturm" told me that they are running out of cars every weekend and that there is an unbelievable demand on weekends. So from Sixts point of view it makes sense to raise the prices and try to come away with it.

But as still pointed out with this fares offered by Sixt, Hertz is back in competition now. So I might use them more often in the future…

greetings
totti

me too!

totti:

That's a really "unusual" letter. First they start with "...kann ich sehr gut..". Later they write "....Wir .... wir ....."

However, Ben got a PERSONAL PLATINUM CARD with a special discount.^ Next time they (ich, wir) offer Ben a Maybach with driver:D

BTW, has anyone tried www.Kayak.com to check car rental prices?

However, Ben got a PERSONAL PLATINUM CARD with a special discount.^



I interpret the sentence in that way that they already sent me a platinum card as a frequent flyer. Therefore it would be a wonder if a further card arrives within the next days connected to the "original" or lower rates. :confused:

@sixtisbest

In the last time I chose sometimes Europcar instead of Sixt and got following weekend rates with Senator/FTL ID 80496823:

PWAR (Audi A6 Kombi) € 101,69
SDMR (Audi A4 Kombi) € 73,79

Everytime I booked the SDMR and got nearly 70-80% an Upgrade to PWAR and let me explain why.

Europcar uses an own class for the Audi A4 Kombi and a lot of times they don´t have it at the station. With a normal car, no "Kombi", they can upgrade you easily to a small group higher because they have more of them.

But you booked a "Kombi" and because of that they try give you the next "Kombi" they have which happened to be an A6 (3.0 Diesel) for me. Of course, sometimes they have an A4 and sometimes they upgrade you to a C class but then I take the A4 because as "Kombi" they have nearly 100% Diesel which is quite nice when you drive a lot.

I know that some of you don´t like a "Kombi" and still want to be sure to have a PWAR. This is just a nice solution I found out by accident and this solution is actually quite cheap and may be an option since Sixt raised the rates.

I know about the lack of service at Europcar stations but I noticed that if the station knows you they will treat you far better than other customers.

Cheers

@sixtisbest

In the last time I chose sometimes Europcar instead of Sixt and got following weekend rates with Senator/FTL ID 80496823:

PWAR (Audi A6 Kombi) € 101,69
SDMR (Audi A4 Kombi) € 73,79

Everytime I booked the SDMR and got nearly 70-80% an Upgrade to PWAR and let me explain why.


Cheers

Thanks for the tip, I am renting sdmr today at europcar. lets see what happens. To be honest I rather take an audi a4 2.0tdi than being upgraded to a e220cdi tmodell automatic. I can run faster than this crappy engine in such a heavy car. Surely I wouldnt mind a a6 2.7/3.0tdi :-)
you wrote that you book a "kombi" but always mention SDMR. Do you mean SWMR? Its quite confusing with europcar because prices for SDMR and SWMR are the same.

I won't book a PWAR at europcar. then I expect to get a a6 3.0 and what do I get? an e220cdi. I had that already 2times
Cheers

you wrote that you book a "kombi" but always mention SDMR. Do you mean SWMR? Its quite confusing with europcar because prices for SDMR and SWMR are the same.


Sorry, you are right, I meant SWMR. That one which is a kombi because they have more of the non-kombis and can upgrade you on a smaller one more easily instead of a kombi. You can choose it in the reservation mask and nearly 100% of the A4´s are Diesel.

That´s a little strange with your e220cdi. Never saw an E-class kombi at my Europcar stations, had it a few times with Sixt. I think it depends on the station, mine has a lot Audis and the only Mercedes they have are the c-classes.

Of course you can be unlucky with my sort of plan. For example, this weekend they gave me a c220cdi T which is crap and I was laughing out loud as I read your comment because I don´t like that one, too. But it´s a give and take, once in a while it´s not working.

But it only happens once a year that they give me that c-class. They know me and also know that I´d rather take a Golf instead of a Mercedes and that is why they don´t give it to me. Another reason could be a one-way rental. Everytime when I am doing a return-rental I get better cars. They told me that a lot of people like the Audis and because of that they try to keep them as long as possible and don´t give them out for one-way rentings.

Let me know if it worked in your case.

Cheers

Sorry, you are right, I meant SWMR. That one which is a kombi because they have more of the non-kombis and can upgrade you on a smaller one more easily instead of a kombi. You can choose it in the reservation mask and nearly 100% of the A4´s are Diesel.

Let me know if it worked in your case.

Cheers

Well, I got a 320i with satnav and seat heating on a cotton chair. whoever invented that, should be forced to use it :rolleyes:
they had plenty e220cdi t, so if you wanna get one, go to dus airport.
anyway, a4, 3series or cclass dont make much difference to me, so its fine except that it isnt a diesel. next time I will try swmr instead of sdmr. (btw. if I would have done it this time, would have ended up with a 3series kombi in darkblue and black interior. sometimes I wonder which blind person is buying this car afterwards)

any experience with that europcar FIRST programm??? looks like 20 rentals are enough in a year in germany.
I should be looking for a smaller station, but on friday evening most stations are closed when arriving at the airport.
Thanks for the help anyway, not sure if I change to europcar. lets see what happens during the next weeks.

At least I´ve seen some 5series kombi, never a 3series kombi with Europcar. But I think it depends on the station. I rent at +/- small stations and maybe they have less different types there.

Just brought my car to the station and will have one the next weekend, too. Will do it again with swmr and will see what comes out.
That guy told me that I could keep my c-class, he doesn´t want to have a car like that ^ No way..

Yes, Europcar first with 20 rentals but doesn´t bring too much to me. Yes the upgrade but I saw that they don´t give you such nice upgrades as sixt. At sixt you often get a 5series instead of a golf (if senator or other card) but that´s more than just one simple upgrade. Europcar would give you a Nissan something which is one group higher, they keep it as small as possible instead of that you have to "force" them with the car-group at least if you don´t know them.
Just talked to Europcar guy and he told me that they are going to change their behaviour and try to act more like sixt with giving more easily good upgrades.

Another thing with the First Card is the Priority Pass, they only reason why this card makes sense for me. But with a C-class ticket or other status you get in a lounge anyway.

Why are you looking for a smaller station?

At least I´ve seen some 5series kombi, never a 3series kombi with Europcar. But I think it depends on the station. I rent at +/- small stations and maybe they have less different types there.

Why are you looking for a smaller station?

Because if the station is smaller my guess is that less cars are available and the chance is higher to get a better upgrade. :D
secondly, in an airport are always other employees. so I cant "get to know" one of them who always gives me e.g. a diesel. therefore its better to change to one of the smaller stations.

what do I do with a Nissan? try if the credit card insurance is actually working to the full amount? ;)

btw, has ever anyone here had an accident covered by the credit card? did the cc company pay what they were epected to pay?

to gerguy:
1. which type of priority pass is included in the europcar first? the one where you can go to as many lounges as you want to without paying anything? or do you have to pay a small amount every single time?
2. europcar germany really needs to improve the service. when I rented the sdmr audi a4, the woman behind the counter went back and checked and made phone calls in order to avoid giving me the 3series which is one class higher. maybe they get a bonus for NOT giving bigger cars :-)

I think I am gonna make the 20 europcar rentals this year to get the first card and then I can choose between sixt and europcar.

Because if the station is smaller my guess is that less cars are available and the chance is higher to get a better upgrade.


Exactly, that´s what I do but at every station it took some weeks and rentals until they switch to be friendly. In my case, Sixt was friendly nearly everytime from the beginning, also at stations where they don´t know me. That´s the big advantage with Sixt.

But as I wrote, talked for half an hour with that Europcar guy and he told me that they´ve had a big meeting in Hamburg a few weeks ago where they talked about that change in the service. Europcar increases company clients but decreases privat clients. They now need to keep that company clients and for that the try better (but who know, we´ll see).
But he was true as he told me that there are more 24 hours Europcar-stations than Sixt and that Europcar has it´s own damage-service and Sixt not. Didn´t know this before but he told me that if you have an accident they are faster there than Sixt etc.

1.) PP brings nothing to you because you have to pay 79 $ p.a. and then still have to pay 24 $ to get in.
You can go to http://www.europcar.de/whyeuropcar/first.html and check the firs card (in german). After 30 rentals p.a. you get a free weekend voucher (s-class). And they bring you your key directly to the baggage claim at airports.
2.) happened to mee, too. They try to discuss everything but as long as you know your rights ;)

Btw, if you need to call for a reservation from you cell phone, use 040-520182112 then you don´t have to pay for the expensive 01805... number.

Cheers

Hello, I need to rent a car in MUC for Easter weekend (5-9/4). Looking for deals I checked Sixt website and fished out this one:

Special - for our HappyDigits customers 20% off and 2 Digits per 1 Euro rental revenue. - Inclusive: unlimited mileage / 20 % discount on our standard pricelist / Subject to availability

I dont have clue who are HappyDigits customers (I never rented with Six before)... but the rates are better then anything else I saw during my search so I am tempted to give it a try.
Is there a risk that I will be asked to prove some eligibility to "HappyDigits" when I will be picking up the car on 5/4? Can they increase the rate on the spot if I won't be that Happy one?

please advise - many thanks!

I dont have clue who are HappyDigits customers (I never rented with Six before)... but the rates are better then anything else I saw during my search so I am tempted to give it a try.
Is there a risk that I will be asked to prove some eligibility to "HappyDigits" when I will be picking up the car on 5/4? Can they increase the rate on the spot if I won't be that Happy one?

please advise - many thanks!


Mystery solved: Happy Digits is a German points programme (www.happydigits.de, website seems to be under reconstruction) shared by several German companies (including Sixt) - you can simply sign up and get a card. I don't know if you read German - if you do, just go to the German Sixt website (http://www.e-sixt.de/main/autovermietung/mietwagen_karten/sixt_happydigits_card/informationen.php); there's an online application form for the Sixt Happy Digits Card. Unfortunately, it's not there on the UK site.

The Sixt version of the card seems to come with a Master Rental Agreement, if you want to avoid that, any other Happy Digits card will do.

I have used the rate a couple of times and they never wanted to see my Happy Digits card, but then you never know...

Mystery solved:

I have used the rate a couple of times and they never wanted to see my Happy Digits card, but then you never know...

Sixt never checks if you are actually allowed to book the particular code. anyway, dont forget, that happydigits tarif doesnt have insurance, so you need to buy that separately or have the right cc. (not sure, if you are british how that works in uk)
the reason why happydigits is in your case so cheap is, that this is an airport station and sixt has an idiotic way of calculating airport fees with their tariffs. I dont want to explain that here any further, just dont be surprised if at a normal station the happydigits tariff may not be as good as expected. I wrote them an email about it, but havnt gotten a reply (yet)

however, check the websites of german rental companies middle of march they tend to do offer then better deals for easter. because there are no business people renting cars for work, they have to get rid of them. good luck. (munic is the biggest sixt station, trade with them if you dont like the car they are offering to you, they have 500cars in stock, there should be one you like)

Hello, I need to rent a car in MUC for Easter weekend (5-9/4). Looking for deals....

Try here, but read the fine-print:

http://www.sixti.com/cgi-perl/rental/el?language=en


The Sixt link Zaphod posted doesn't work for me.
Where can I find "Happy digits" offers on Sixt's website? What code?

Mystery solved: Happy Digits is a German points programme (www.happydigits.de, website seems to be under reconstruction) shared by several German companies (including Sixt) - you can simply sign up and get a card. I don't know if you read German - if you do, just go to the German Sixt website (http://www.e-sixt.de/main/autovermietung/mietwagen_karten/sixt_happydigits_card/informationen.php); there's an online application form for the Sixt Happy Digits Card. Unfortunately, it's not there on the UK site.



You can also book Sixt "Happy Digits"-Rates directy by logging into the sixt website by using CDP:9905872 Password:happy. (CDP is provided to you after you have registered for the happy digits progr., password was guessed ;)

Happy digits rate often seem to be restricted in availability when booking 2-3 days in advance.

Cheers

The Sixt link Zaphod posted doesn't work for me.
Where can I find "Happy digits" offers on Sixt's website? What code?

Sorry, just pasted the link and didn't bother to check...

You can find the offers for the Happy Digits rate on the special offers page for Germany (e.g. on the US site, go to Reservations, select Germany, the scroll down about half the page).

The card application form itself is only available on the German site (although it lets practically any country of residence) - click "PKW mieten" on the main page, then "Sixt Cards" (on the left of the following page). The Happy Digits card is at the bottom left of the "Sixt Cards" page.

You can also book Sixt "Happy Digits"-Rates directy by logging into the sixt website by using CDP:9905872 Password:happy. (CDP is provided to you after you have registered for the happy digits progr., password was guessed ;)

Happy digits rate often seem to be restricted in availability when booking 2-3 days in advance.

Cheers

Thanks! And welcome to FT.
I'll try this with my next booking. Thanks again.

At least some good things to report from Sixt. Just had a weekend-rental and due to the heavy increase in price I just reserved ILMR this times as I thought that I don't had to drive that much anyway. When I arrived at the station I got a XDAR which was very welcomed as plans had changed and I had to do a longer trip. While upgrades happen quite often when renting with Sixt such a 3 or 4 class upgrade (not sure here) is not the standard procedure… ;)

If you are renting in a country other than the one you live in?

If you are renting in a country other than the one you live in?

correct!!! 2k M&M bonus miles for all rentals abroad.

I just got back from MUC. My LDAR turned into a XDAR (BMW 730d). I did ask for a Benz S320CDI, but they didn't have any. I have tried that about three times so far, but no luck, always got 730d.

Every time in FRA or MUC, I have always gotten XDAR after reserving LDAR or PDAR. Now, if I used Sixt Holidays and rented an FDMR (Category C8: Passat w/ Air Conditioning), will I still get the upgrade? A 730d for one whole week would be VERY nice.

I just got back from MUC. My LDAR turned into a XDAR (BMW 730d). I did ask for a Benz S320CDI, but they didn't have any. I have tried that about three times so far, but no luck, always got 730d.
I prefer the BMW over Mercedes S-class. But at least you got an upgrade which is quite okay, isn't it. ^ ;)

Every time in FRA or MUC, I have always gotten XDAR after reserving LDAR or PDAR. Now, if I used Sixt Holidays and rented an FDMR (Category C8: Passat w/ Air Conditioning), will I still get the upgrade? A 730d for one whole week would be VERY nice.
I wouldn't bet on it: while we all know that Sixt is quite generous when it comes to upgrades for weekday and weekend rentals (all short term) they sometimes refuse an upgrade for longterm rentals, at least this is my experience. It is not unlikely that you'll get an upgrade but I would expect one… two examples: I had a 14 day rental in germany and got a double upgrade while I got a downgrade in MAD once for a 10 day rental. In MAD there were no cars available even in the size I booked and so I had to take the downgrade but got a great compensation we I was back home ^ :)

My friend has a 2007 S550 and he said it is much, much better than the 2005 model. I would prefer a 2005 VW Passat over a 2005 S320, but 2007 is supposed to be very different. Nevertheless, the 730d was a fantastic car! :)

If Sixt upgrades me to a BMW or Audi (I will be VERY, VERY happy with Audi A4 2.0TDI), but if I get an Audi, I have to cancel my trip to Prague. If I get the Ford Mondeo, it is allowed, but not Volkswagen Passat.

correct!!! 2k M&M bonus miles for all rentals abroad.

And it's 4K for diamond.^

Not as good as last year though, when it was 5000.

Looking around on the Sixt website I ran into this:
http://ag.sixt.de/autovermietung/partner/more_partner/060_dcbank.php (German only, sorry)

Reading the details, it says you can earn Roadmiles in addition to your regular collection possibilities. As I already earn M&M and HHonours, this would imply triple dipping???

Does anybody have any experience with that?

Reading the details, it says you can earn Roadmiles in addition to your regular collection possibilities. As I already earn M&M and HHonours, this would imply triple dipping???

You can earn airline miles plus hotel points with Sixt?@:-) Didn't know that. :o Nobody tells me these things. :(

You can earn airline miles plus hotel points with Sixt?@:-) Didn't know that. :o Nobody tells me these things. :(

Exactly 500 HH points per rental.:) Why didn't you ask?:D :D

Oh, BTW, Sixt likes me. I have a BMW 650 for over a week now.......and it's an upgrade from the lowest category! Originally it was only a 24h rental. Will keep it for another 4 days before they get it back.

Oh, BTW, Sixt likes me. I have a BMW 650 for over a week now.......and it's an upgrade from the lowest category! Originally it was only a 24h rental. Will keep it for another 4 days before they get it back.

Cool. I guess the trick is to start with a very short rental, then extend as needed. However, the extension would be at their daily rate, which is much higher than a weekly or monthly rate.

Also, you are Double Diamond and HON. A worthless Platinum / SEN member like me wouldn't get a 650 from the lowest rate. Bummer. I certainly never get ANY upgrade on my monthly rates since the soccer WC. "New policy", they keep telling me.

...I guess the trick is to start with a very short rental, then extend as needed....

The real trick is making friends with a small station. I am extremely happy with the Freilassing station since they became an outlet of SZG.

The real trick is making friends with a small station. I am extremely happy with the Freilassing station since they became an outlet of SZG.

Well, the only small station close to me is Rosenheim, and they are supposed to be bad. And they don't even rent SUVs, convertibles or S-Class there. So I don't think they'd actually HAVE interesting cars to upgrade to.

Well, the only small station close to me is Rosenheim, and they are supposed to be bad. And they don't even rent SUVs, convertibles or S-Class there. So I don't think they'd actually HAVE interesting cars to upgrade to.

Rosenheim is a franchise. Like most Sixt franchises they have a hard time to survive. I used to get good cars, when they had them, but that is always a matter of luck. The guy who owns it now is ok though.

Freilassing is a corporate station and has access to the cars at SZG. I only rent the smallest car groups. The smallest car they ever gave me was an E200 and they apologized profoundly!

They also let me drop off my cars at SZG w/o the stupid one way fee to Austria of 100 EUR. And they did an incredible job when I managed to lock up the keys in the car 2 weeks ago.

You can earn airline miles plus hotel points with Sixt?@:-) Didn't know that. :o Nobody tells me these things. :(
bummer that you were not aware of this ;)

Probably this is all old news for others here but I found out that you can earn 1000 LH miles per rental. But actually it's not all that easy. You have to start with earning Vodafone Stars point. You'll get 1k points for every rental. This points can be transfered to payback points 1:1 which can be then transfered to LH 1:1. So earning vodafone stars points with Sixt finally results in 1k M&M miles per rental. But I guess in this case there is no double dipping with HH.

Probably this is all old news for others here but I found out that you can earn 1000 LH miles per rental.

Since I get 2000 miles, anyway, I don't see the...um...point. ;)

Since I get 2000 miles, anyway, I don't see the...um...point. ;)

Yes I know, it depends on the billing adress but I thought that is promo will end sooner or later while the 1000 vodafone star points is no promo. Or is there another way to get the 2k miles per rental. As I normally use my german billing adress, because it is easier for me, I only get the 500 miles and 500 HH points. But I won't complain…

Am now in MUC.. I reserved IDMR (VW Passat w/ AC) and I got a BRAND NEW Audi A4 station wagon with A/C (well, not that I need it!) with navigation. It had only 14 kilometres on it!

Looking around on the Sixt website I ran into this:
http://ag.sixt.de/autovermietung/partner/more_partner/060_dcbank.php (German only, sorry)

Reading the details, it says you can earn Roadmiles in addition to your regular collection possibilities. As I already earn M&M and HHonours, this would imply triple dipping???

Does anybody have any experience with that?

Answering my own question:
There is no triple dipping like M&M, HH and Roadmiles. However, double dipping is possible with Roadmiles, by using M&M as primary earning option and Roadmiles (instead of HH) as secondary. Especially when renting a Mercedes it seems to be worth it, as it gives the opportunity to earn extra 1000 RMs.:)

For the other cases I haven't decided yet, if I prefer 500 HH points or 500 RMs.

I am trying to rent a 9 person vehicle through Sixt (one of those MB - Vitos). Are these any good? We are going from SW Germany to Paris next week with 9 people and instead of taking our two cars I think this will be advantageous.

Having just received a SIXT Platinum (comped from HHonors Diamond), I've booked a holiday car at SIXT PMI (Mallorca, Spain) for 11 days in July at a fair price. All my professional car rental has been in the US, so I have no SIXT experience up to this point.

I'd like to make sure I "Double Dip" and receive both HHonors points (hopefully 5000 for first Platinum rental) and SAS Eurobonus points (1500 special offer until end of july).

I booked a Internet rate, and put my Platinum number in the comments field as suggested in this forum. As FF program I put in SAS.

Do I need to do anything before pick-up to ensure I get both Hilton and SAS points ? Or can I just have them PMI station enter the Hilton and SAS details at pick-up ?

Apart from the points, of course I hope for a upgrade (booked EDMR, e.g. VW Polo). Any experience with PMI treatment of Platinums ?

I booked a Internet rate, and put my Platinum number in the comments field as suggested in this forum. As FF program I put in SAS.

Do I need to do anything before pick-up to ensure I get both Hilton and SAS points ? Or can I just have them PMI station enter the Hilton and SAS details at pick-up ?

Apart from the points, of course I hope for a upgrade (booked EDMR, e.g. VW Polo). Any experience with PMI treatment of Platinums ?

What you should do is put your HH number in the field called Order No. preceeded by HH. The result looking like HH<your number>. This is the way a (knowing) Sixt agent has to do it, but they quite often screw it up.

If it's in the comment field, it requires an active interference by an agent transferring your number to the other field in the correct way. Chances are may be 50% that it works out. I'd suggest, you cancel your reservation online and make a new one in the way I pointed out above.

I did it like this hundreds of times and it always works. And yes, this is sufficient also to get the first rental bonus.

Your chances are very high to get your Platinum u/g. Sixt is very good at that.

I am trying to rent a 9 person vehicle through Sixt (one of those MB - Vitos). Are these any good? We are going from SW Germany to Paris next week with 9 people and instead of taking our two cars I think this will be advantageous.

I think this is a bad idea. the Vito does 130 km/h (maybe sufficient for france, but not germany), is expensive, has no navigation and poor equipment. I would take 2 cars.
have you ever driven in a vito in paris? this is the long 9people version. parkhouses will be too small for it and streets are, too.

Having just received a SIXT Platinum (comped from HHonors Diamond), I've booked a holiday car at SIXT PMI (Mallorca, Spain) for 11 days in July at a fair price. All my professional car rental has been in the US, so I have no SIXT experience up to this point.

I'd like to make sure I "Double Dip" and receive both HHonors points (hopefully 5000 for first Platinum rental) and SAS Eurobonus points (1500 special offer until end of july).

I booked a Internet rate, and put my Platinum number in the comments field as suggested in this forum. As FF program I put in SAS.

Do I need to do anything before pick-up to ensure I get both Hilton and SAS points ? Or can I just have them PMI station enter the Hilton and SAS details at pick-up ?

Apart from the points, of course I hope for a upgrade (booked EDMR, e.g. VW Polo). Any experience with PMI treatment of Platinums ?
But are you sure that double dipping with Sixt works for HH and SAS? I always thought that double dippingwhen renting with Sixt only works with LH M&M.

Answering my own question: Yes it works with all airline parnters of HH and Sixt referring to the Sixt website (http://ag.sixt.com/autovermietung/partner/hotel_partner/010_hilton.php).

I requested the Platinum Card a little while ago (comped from United 1K), but never received it in the mail. Today I am checking on the e-sixt web site, and the Platinum Card is no longer mentioned - only Express, Gold, and American Express. Did they stop offering the Platinum Card, or am I missing something? :confused:

You´re right :confused:

But the rates for platinumcard holders are still available.

doepke, try emailing andrew.booth@sixt.com to get your Plat card sent.

doepke, try emailing andrew.booth@sixt.com to get your Plat card sent.

Hopefully you will have better luck, but I have had VERY slow, if albeit non-responsive communication efforts when trying to work out some rental details with both Andrew and his associate Lee. Caused me to cancel my resv. and go to Hertz.

Cheers,

Adrian

Quick update: I talked to them this morning, apparently I already have a Platinum Card, although I never actually received it in the mail. At any rate, I have the account number now, so it should be fine. It still appears that the Platinum Card is no longer offered to new customers, so I am still worried that the program might cease to exist next year.

My cardis valid til 07/07. Is the program gone or what. Can`t see it on their website.:confused:

Adrian, for some reason I have had good luck (knock on wood). I received my basic card in the mail a few weeks ago, and Andrew said he'd send the updated Plat card out in the post today. I do hope the Plat doesn't go away, as I plan on using the local Sixt station here a lot this year...

My cardis valid til 07/07. Is the program gone or what. Can`t see it on their website.:confused:

They just mailed me a new Platinum card a few weeks ago to LAX. It's valid until 2013.

Adrian, for some reason I have had good luck (knock on wood). I received my basic card in the mail a few weeks ago, and Andrew said he'd send the updated Plat card out in the post today. I do hope the Plat doesn't go away, as I plan on using the local Sixt station here a lot this year...

I hope your good luck continues. For me, it was good at first, then as I started to ask more detailed questions, the response time increase...1 week...2 weeks...never. This was all via email though, if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Adrian

They just mailed me a new Platinum card a few weeks ago to LAX. It's valid until 2013.
Same here. My card is valid until 2012. I doubt that they stopp the program but probably they stopped to advertise it because of fraud?

Same here. My card is valid until 2012. I doubt that they stopp the program but probably they stopped to advertise it because of fraud?


Fraud is not possible because they check your status with the issuer of your hotel/airline card (at least in my case).
Hotline told me that all cards remain valid, and that they automatically send you a new one if your old expires no matter how much you rented in the past.

Fraud is not possible because they check your status with the issuer of your hotel/airline card (at least in my case).
Hotline told me that all cards remain valid, and that they automatically send you a new one if your old expires no matter how much you rented in the past.

Yes, it should be that way, but there were several reports here on FT how to bypass the normal process. Much likely Sixt closed the loophole.

Yes, it should be that way, but there were several reports here on FT how to bypass the normal process. Much likely Sixt closed the loophole.

I sent an email to sixt and asked about the platinum card. the reply was that the platinum program will still be available as it has been in the past. LH SEN, however, get a voucher to get a sixt platinum card.
I think this also means, that the rule 20times renting in a year equals getting the platinum card doesnt work anymore. this is the only thing I guess that doesnt work. or they do it automatically by computer system at the end of the year.

however, I think it is good, that they limit the number of platinum cards a bit, as it didnt really seem to be exclusive in the past anymore. (in the contrary to the europcar FIRST, which is rare and gives 3-4 classes upgrades, not 1 or 2 like Sixt)
or they give the really heavy renters the Diamod :p
thats never gonna happen :(

I am Platinum (United/Ameniti 35%). Will I get better rates when joining Sixt HappyDigits (20%)?
35%, 20%, but from what basis-price, which card has the best final price. I know that HappyDigits does not include VAT. However, I got a better price with HappyDigits on my last rental in Marrakech ... the price was so good (low!), that the agent had to call the headquarter in Casablanca:cool:

HD always includes VAT when I'm renting it. :confused:

HD always includes VAT when I'm renting it. :confused:

My reservation (in Marrakech) states: Price excl. of VAT.

HD always includes VAT when I'm renting it. :confused:

With or without VAT, how good (low) was the rate compared to Platinum, Gold, else?

With or without VAT, how good (low) was the rate compared to Platinum, Gold, else?

Usually the best for weekly rentals. I'm only using Sixt in Germany, though.

Usually the best for weekly rentals. I'm only using Sixt in Germany, though.

its very easy in Germany:
normal station: sixt platin
airport/trainstation with service fee: happydigits, if available.

the reason whay hd is cheaper at airports is, that the service fee is calculated on the hd price whereas the service fee of the platin price is calculated on the nondiscounted price.
example: price of platin 65e. that means original price is 100. then the service fee is calculated on the 100 and not on the 65, therefore 19 (as it is 19% in Germany)
Sixt is receiving complaints everyday for that (even from me a couple of times), but they dont change this silly system.

....or they give the really heavy renters the Diamod :p
thats never gonna happen :(

Yes, it does happen...after about 100 rentals within one year.:eek:

I did receive a second DIA card through number of rentals after I already had one because of HON status.

Yes, it does happen...after about 100 rentals within one year.:eek:

I did receive a second DIA card through number of rentals after I already had one because of HON status.

I had around 45 rentals - but weekly and sometimes extra for weekend which could be more than 100 rentals (for example) for one day.
How did you receive your diamond card. I asked for it and they said they will not give it to me although I'm probably driving Sixt 350 days per year. I thing this should be worth a diamond card. Do I have to do something special to get it ?? do you have any contacts :confused: ??

its very easy in Germany:
normal station: sixt platin
airport/trainstation with service fee: happydigits, if available.

the reason whay hd is cheaper at airports is, that the service fee is calculated on the hd price whereas the service fee of the platin price is calculated on the nondiscounted price.
example: price of platin 65e. that means original price is 100. then the service fee is calculated on the 100 and not on the 65, therefore 19 (as it is 19% in Germany)
Sixt is receiving complaints everyday for that (even from me a couple of times), but they dont change this silly system.

sixtisbest:
Thanks. Very interesting! I'll check it out. For long-time-rentals, I may "change" the car at a city location (example: 14 days rent = 1 day airport rental car, 13 days city rental car)

Yes, it does happen...after about 100 rentals within one year.:eek:

I did receive a second DIA card through number of rentals after I already had one because of HON status.

Sixt Hotline told me that they turned down a customer with 400 rental days p.a. . I guess its a combination of days and number of rentals and car class that gets you the card.

Sixt Hotline told me that they turned down a customer with 400 rental days p.a. .

So this customer sometimes rented a new car TWICE a day?

So this customer sometimes rented a new car TWICE a day?

Yes, for example if he flew into two airports a day. At least thats what i was told by the Hotline.

....How did you receive your diamond card. I asked for it and they said they will not give it to me although I'm probably driving Sixt 350 days per year. I thing this should be worth a diamond card. Do I have to do something special to get it ?? do you have any contacts :confused: ??
Don't know actually, if they based it on rentals of more than one year. It is clear, it was not based on revenue, car class rented etc. as I only book the smallest group always.
Maybe also my US address did it.
I just don't know, as it was not important to me. It was Diamond card number two.

So this customer sometimes rented a new car TWICE a day?
I did this quite often. Not very hard. Even had THREE rentals in one day occasionally.

I did this quite often. Not very hard. Even had THREE rentals in one day occasionally.

Sure, but we know that you are crazy, anyway. :)
People say the same about me.

Sure, but we know that you are crazy, anyway. :)
..........

Hey, let me warn you. I have business partners in LA now with connections...:cool:

I have gotten an email, after requesting the mentioned status.
It said, that Diamond is only handed out for HON members / Amex Cent and by personal invitation of Mrs. Sixt and / or Mr. Sixt themselves. I guess there will be a diference in program rules for Airline / Amex customers and personal invitees.
They also said, they will not bend these rules ever, as to not disapoint the contractual partners.

Hey, let me warn you. I have business partners in LA now with connections...:cool:

Really! Let me introduce them to my business partners... :cool: :p :D

Hi,

on the Sixt website there is no longer the Sixt Platinum Card metioned. Any thoughts?

Hi,

on the Sixt website there is no longer the Sixt Platinum Card metioned. Any thoughts?

You can apply for it by calling sixt. They might want to direct you to their website, as not all agents are aware that it has been taken away. Eventually they will send you an application by mail.
Good luck!

You can apply for it by calling sixt. They might want to direct you to their website, as not all agents are aware that it has been taken away. Eventually they will send you an application by mail.
Good luck!

I have a Sixt Plat Card. The only thing I was wondering is, why they deleted the information from the website. You needed 20 rentals p.a. to get the benefits - maybe now it is by invitation only:confused:

I have a Sixt Plat Card. The only thing I was wondering is, why they deleted the information from the website. You needed 20 rentals p.a. to get the benefits - maybe now it is by invitation only:confused:

Dont really know. Invitation only is Diamond.

It said, that Diamond is only handed out for HON members / Amex Cent and by personal invitation of Mrs. Sixt and / or Mr. Sixt themselves....

Interesting! I have a friend (in Southern Germany) who plays golf from time to time with Mrs. Sixt ... she gave him GOLD. Told him, there are better ones, PLATINUM! Now I have learned one this thread, there are even better ones, DIAMOND:mad:
What is the discount for DIAMOND?

Interesting! I have a friend (in Southern Germany) who plays golf from time to time with Mrs. Sixt ... she gave him GOLD. Told him, there are better ones, PLATINUM! Now I have learned one this thread, there are even better ones, DIAMOND:mad:
What is the discount for DIAMOND?

To my knowledge its 40%. Double or more upgrades. Well, just the best service money can`t buy you with sixt;)

To my knowledge its 40%. Double or more upgrades. Well, just the best service money can`t buy you with sixt;)

the difference between platinum and diamond in terms of price is quite marginal, I would say (35 to 40%). but: if you cant get a platinum through the website, how do you expect them to give you a diamond. I have heard the same reply from sixt.
The card is only given by status, nothing to do with rentals...
its for executives and board members and so on. (people who really care about the extra 5% :p )
but by taking off the platinum from the website, maybe the plat gets more exclusive again in the future

the difference between platinum and diamond in terms of price is quite marginal, I would say (35 to 40%).
Well, I use much lower rates quite often than the diamond rate. I always book the smallest category and always get cars like BMW 5 or higher at stations where they know me. Absolute best was a BMW650 recently. I kept it for 2 weeks.:)

Service is only outstanding. In MUC they have the separate diamond lounge. If you request it (at any station), you don't have to go and get the car yourself. They bring it to you.

And: Double miles.

but: if you cant get a platinum through the website, how do you expect them to give you a diamond. I have heard the same reply from sixt.
The card is only given by status, nothing to do with rentals...

Who told you? I can't think of anybody you could call who would be able to give you an informed answer for such a question.

its for executives and board members and so on. (people who really care about the extra 5% :p )...

I just happen to know that I have my 2 diamond cards and I also know why. BTW, I have just requested an additional one for my partner which is already in the mail.:p
(You don't seem to know many of these people. They do care about the 5%...at least a lot of them)

BTW, I have just requested an additional one for my partner which is already in the mail.:p

Could you then please request one for me as well ?? I'm Plat - a couple of years ago it was worth it. Now it seems to me that every second is Plat :mad:
What do you need from me - Name and Adress? ??

Could you then please request one for me as well ?? I'm Plat - a couple of years ago it was worth it. Now it seems to me that every second is Plat :mad:
What do you need from me - Name and Adress? ??

Unfortunately I can't. I can only have one partner which happens to be my wife in this case.

The only advice I can give you is to become a LH HON. In this case you can have one card for you and one for your partner. Sixt really succeeded in keeping this status exclusive over the last 2.5 years and I hope it will stay there for the foreseeable future.

Service is only outstanding. In MUC they have the separate diamond lounge. If you request it (at any station), you don't have to go and get the car yourself. They bring it to you.

Where is the Diamond lounge located and what´s it like?

Where is the Diamond lounge located and what´s it like?

Take the stairs up a few steps from the Sixt counters.

Nothing special inside. I think there is a coffee machine in the corner, but not sure. The agent accompanies you out the back door directly to your car in a special parking lot. That's it.

its very easy in Germany:
normal station: sixt platin
airport/trainstation with service fee: happydigits, if available.

the reason whay hd is cheaper at airports is, that the service fee is calculated on the hd price whereas the service fee of the platin price is calculated on the nondiscounted price.
example: price of platin 65e. that means original price is 100. then the service fee is calculated on the 100 and not on the 65, therefore 19 (as it is 19% in Germany)
Sixt is receiving complaints everyday for that (even from me a couple of times), but they dont change this silly system.

Sixt must have changed it. Checked FRA:
1. Platinum is a little cheaper ... and I may get an upgrade.
2. On both bookings (Platinum & Happydigits) Sixt charges about 19% Servicegebühr from the Basismietpreis.

[QUOTE=USAFAN;7654994]Sixt must have changed it. Checked FRA:
1. Platinum is a little cheaper ... and I may get an upgrade.
2. On both bookings (Platinum & Happydigits) Sixt charges about 19% Servicegebühr from the Basismietpreis.[/QUOTE

Upgrades only depend on Status. Rate does not play a role.

Did any of you realize there is a new "Bereitstellungsgebühr" of EUR 35.70 per rental?

Did any of you realize there is a new "Bereitstellungsgebühr" of EUR 35.70 per rental?

Never seen it, including 2 rentals this Friday.:confused:

What was the rate? Airport? Nonflex? Late Pick up?

Did any of you realize there is a new "Bereitstellungsgebühr" of EUR 35.70 per rental?

Maybe they delivered your car ?

Maybe they delivered your car ?

Nobody delivered anything, I simply checked prices on the website. It even showed up when NOT logging in.

It's gone now, so maybe (hopefully) it was just a temporary IT glitch.

It's gone now, so maybe (hopefully) it was just a temporary IT glitch.

Thanks.
I am waiting for an IT glitch ""Bereitstellungskredit" of + Euro 30 per rental!:D

[QUOTE=ulev;7644923]Well, I use much lower rates quite often than the diamond rate. I always book the smallest category and always get cars like BMW 5 or higher at stations where they know me. Absolute best was a BMW650 recently. I kept it for 2 weeks.:)

That isnt the point of what I wrote. If I rent a car during the week cxmr I get constantly an eclass. weheyyyy.
the diamond lounge is a joke in my opinion. in feb I asked them not to give me a 7series but a jeep (went to the mountains...) and the mclass was standing on that special parking place... and who wants to drink a coffee when he arrives at the airport? dont really see the point, sorry.


Who told you? I can't think of anybody you could call who would be able to give you an informed answer for such a question.

send an email to sixt, they replied with a standard answer. it was probably 1 year ago, therefor I dont have that email anymore, otherwise I would copy it in here.

btw, I happen to know some of these people and they have their own sclass including the driver standing by at the airport, they dont rent with sixt!
however, they are not HON as well, because they use airplanes which only fit them and their entourage. :D

To keep it short, I dont like this kind of writing, and dont think its necessary. This here is used for sharing information, not for saying who is right or wrong. I had approx 60rentals last year with sixt, they increased the prices, dont get any bill right and sometimes want to give me an renault grand espace, which is the reason why I should be chaning my username and have recently changed to renting europcar. their firstcard gives real upgrades (at least 3 classes, sometimes 5) and not from golf to bclass like sixt does from time to time

....To keep it short, I dont like this kind of writing, and dont think its necessary.....

Well, then, why do you?:eek:

After all it was you who said I was wrong about how I got my Diamond card?! I simply shared the information how I happened to get 2 of them.

And finally, Sixt customer service always delivers canned answers, exactly like the one you got. They can be right or wrong, you'll never find out. If you want to really know what's going on you need to know somebody else inside. Your statement actually proved me right.

Well, then, why do you?:eek:

After all it was you who said I was wrong about how I got my Diamond card?! I simply shared the information how I happened to get 2 of them.

And finally, Sixt customer service always delivers canned answers, exactly like the one you got. They can be right or wrong, you'll never find out. If you want to really know what's going on you need to know somebody else inside. Your statement actually proved me right.

I dont want to go into further details about who knows who and who doesnt. Lets just say, 3 people at sixt gave me 3 quite different answers to the "diamond" question, therefore I dont regard any of them to be correct. A friend of mine got recently a platinum card, even though he has rented with sixt once in 2003 and only had a normal express card. so there doesnt seem to be a solid system.

What would be more helpful for all of us, is, if somebody could post the diamond weekend rate, e.g. cpmr or ldar. I am interested if it is 5% better than platinum rate or 5% better than Loyalty3 (which is the LH Gold rate).

What would be more helpful for all of us, is, if somebody could post the diamond weekend rate, e.g. cpmr or ldar. I am interested if it is 5% better than platinum rate or 5% better than Loyalty3 (which is the LH Gold rate).

As you know so well what's most helpful for all of us :D :eek:
here is the answer to your question:

CPMR: EUR 78.54
LDAR: 107.10
incl. VAT
Rate Code: DEXED000 INTERN. STANDARD

As you know so well what's most helpful for all of us :D :eek:
here is the answer to your question:

CPMR: EUR 78.54
LDAR: 107.10
incl. VAT
Rate Code: DEXED000 INTERN. STANDARD

so it is the rate used for platinum and gold card as well. However, the difference regarding cpmr (platin 80,60€ to diamond 78,54€) is close to nothing. getting a diesel instead of petrol engine makes a much bigger difference than these 2€.
Besides, this actually means the amex gold rate with 74,40€ for cpmr on a weekend is better than diamond. (at least in terms of price, the car you're getting with diamond may actually be worth the difference)
still, its possible to get the amex gold price and take the data from the diamond, so it will be cpmr with diamond double upgrade for 74,40€

(What I wrote it not true for airport rentals!!!)

How can I reserve either Plat or Amex Gold or what so ever ??
I don't know if anybody else has this problem, but I have a corporate rate behind my plat sixt card. If I log in and want to make a reservation always my corporate rate is there - for the weekend its more expensive (because full insurance is included and can't be deducted).
SO how can I get e.g. the regular plat prices ??

How can I reserve either Plat or Amex Gold or what so ever ??
I don't know if anybody else has this problem, but I have a corporate rate behind my plat sixt card. If I log in and want to make a reservation always my corporate rate is there - for the weekend its more expensive (because full insurance is included and can't be deducted).
SO how can I get e.g. the regular plat prices ??


just call sixt, tell them to issu you a normal sixt express card with your company rate. once you have that, you tell sixt to take off the company rate from the platinum card and give you the platinum rate behind the platinum card.

however, having more than one card with sixt may cause other problems: each sixt card needs a unique credit card. and to get the insurance cover through paying by lh visa gold for example, you have to pay with that credit card.

Did anyone notice that the Platinum card is no longer advertised on the sixt websites ? It now just shows Expess, Gold, Amex Sixt and Happy Digits Sixt card. No more Platinum and also no more link for a status match for frequent flyers to Platinum.

That's the major reason I'm afraid to use Sixt for my upcoming trip to FRA - I have Sixt Platinum. I am not even sure if they will honour it. I also have noticed Sixt's weekly rate has fallen - for everybody, except Platiniums.

I suspect Sixt has rolled back the increases, but left the Platinum rates much higher than the others.

That's the major reason I'm afraid to use Sixt for my upcoming trip to FRA - I have Sixt Platinum. I am not even sure if they will honour it. I also have noticed Sixt's weekly rate has fallen - for everybody, except Platiniums.

I suspect Sixt has rolled back the increases, but left the Platinum rates much higher than the others.

You can use any rate you can find, like the rate offered through the Sixt US website or Happy Digits. Just don't start the online booking with entering your Platinum number first but enter it at the end of the booking process.

You will receive your Plat credentials and 2000 M&M miles under the "rent abroad" promotion if you are US based as your profile suggests. Plat is still there, don't worry. They just stopped advertising it, like they never did for DIAMOND.

I suspect Sixt has rolled back the increases, but left the Platinum rates much higher than the others.

Could you be a bit more precisely, please? Which rate do you mean? My SEN-rate (loyalty 3) shows still the increased prices. :confused:

I was referring to the rates if I do not log in.

Before, it was Platinum that was cheaper.

A few months ago, Sixt increased the regular rates and the Platinum rates, although Platinum was a little bit cheaper.

Now, Sixt has lowered the regular rates, but not the Platinum rates.

That was what I was referring to.

Also, I cannot get M&M - I am not with LH.

[QUOTE=Wiggums;7851086]I was referring to the rates if I do not log in.

Before, it was Platinum that was cheaper.

A few months ago, Sixt increased the regular rates and the Platinum rates, although Platinum was a little bit cheaper.

Now, Sixt has lowered the regular rates, but not the Platinum rates.
QUOTE]

Sixt doesnt really lower the regular rates: the rates not logged in depend on the city and the day. it is very likely that during the summer the prices are going down, because availability of cars is greater as business people have vacation. these prices depent on availability.
All the other rates such as platin/diamond and LH Loyalty3/4 are fixed rates and wont change depending on availability of cars.

Welcome to FT FRA_Flyer!

Shouldn't you even get 40% of as your profil shows you are a HON. So you must be able to get even better rates than the rest of us…

But again: I just checked you reservations for the upcoming month and so far everything is fine for me. Maybe I am just in luck here.

Cheers
totti

I'm new to Sixt, and I was trying to get a when I came across a number of acronyms that left me spinning -

LH

HON

LH HON

Senator

SEN

"hon circlce" ?

M&M

CDP

HH

HD

"loyalty _" (where a number is inserted above the _)

LH

any acronym explanation and/or info to help me get a grasp of the upgrade levels, qualifications, and rewards is appreciated!

In Europe, do any of the car rental companies offer free days? It seems like loyalty programs are more focused on large discounts than on free rental days...thanks for any help :confused:

I'm new to Sixt, and I was trying to get a when I came across a number of acronyms that left me spinning -

LH

HON

LH HON

Senator

SEN

"hon circlce" ?

M&M

CDP

HH

HD

"loyalty _" (where a number is inserted above the _)

LH

any acronym explanation and/or info to help me get a grasp of the upgrade levels, qualifications, and rewards is appreciated!

http://www.flyertalk.com/glossary/

As I usually get 500 LH miles plus 500 HH points, Im now using the EB offer for 1500 extra points for car rentals more than 3 days, valid till end of July.
If anybody knows better deals please share!

As I usually get 500 LH miles plus 500 HH points, Im now using the EB offer for 1500 extra points for car rentals more than 3 days, valid till end of July.
If anybody knows better deals please share!

Yokdoc, see post #181 by ulev above - if you rent outside of the country you live in, you can earn 2000 LH miles for renting with Sixt.

HONs earn 4k LH miles, I think.

HONs earn 4k LH miles, I think.

Yep.
And SENs with Diamond Card only 2k, as I just had to find out. :(

Yep.
And SENs with Diamond Card only 2k, as I just had to find out. :(

:p;)

:p;)

Since you till owe me an upgrade, I don't mind. :p:D

Since you till owe me an upgrade, I don't mind. :p:D

I get a Sixt car u/g for you any day you like.:)

BTW, didn't know that's the way you handle presents.:eek:

But I do know of course we are headed for a discussion about birthday presents again. I guess I retreat back to my Thai hinterland job immediately. Not enough bandwidth available out there for pervert activities like posting on FT.:(

I guess I retreat back to my Thai hinterland job immediately. Not enough bandwidth available out there for pervert activities like posting on FT.:(

I sincerely hope they'll upgrade you to a bigger elephant.

As I usually get 500 LH miles plus 500 HH points, Im now using the EB offer for 1500 extra points for car rentals more than 3 days, valid till end of July.
If anybody knows better deals please share!

Can I get HH points and airline points both when I rent from Sixt?

Can I get HH points and airline points both when I rent from Sixt?

Yes. It's called double dipping.

You even get 2500 HH points as an extra bonus when you do it for the first time.

Yes. It's called double dipping.

You even get 2500 HH points as an extra bonus when you do it for the first time.

Thanks.

Yes. It's called double dipping.

You even get 2500 HH points as an extra bonus when you do it for the first time.

Its off topic here, but can I get then also HH points and airline points when using airlines.

Its off topic here, but can I get then also HH points and airline points when using airlines.

No.

No.

Sorry, more off topic here. But when Im staying in Scandic can I get HH points and Eurobonus points both. Cause Scandic is partner with SAS, but HIlton is not.

Sorry, more off topic here. But when Im staying in Scandic can I get HH points and Eurobonus points both. Cause Scandic is partner with SAS, but HIlton is not.

Perhaps you should consider to post in the SAS or Hilton forums. There you will find the answers you are looking for by using the search function.

Need to book a car for a week in september from Oslo airport. Looking for rates and found that internet rates are at least 10 % cheaper then rates with minus 35 % as EBG and Sixt Platinum. So does anybody know, what are better changes to get a free upgrade, if at all.
Regards

Need to book a car for a week in september from Oslo airport. Looking for rates and found that internet rates are at least 10 % cheaper then rates with minus 35 % as EBG and Sixt Platinum. So does anybody know, what are better changes to get a free upgrade, if at all.
Regards

I have no experience with renting from Sixt in Norway, but at least at German stations it doesnt' seem to make a difference upgrade-wise whether you book at "normal" internet rates or at the Sixt Plat rate. Just make sure that you enter your Plat card number into the booking (which you can also do when booking at "normal" rates).

Tried search and I also tried figuring it out on the webpage myself, but I'm completely new to rental cars and was not capable. Plus it seems the Sixt Plat card is unknown to the Sixt website:

How do I make a booking using my Sixt Plat, hence seeing the 35% discount? Plus I don't know how to distinguish between a "holiday rate", a "discountable rate" and potential other rates. When I type in my location and dates, it gives back a flexible and an early booking rate and that is the only differentiation.

Any help/explanation would be greatly appreciated. Also a point a more appropriate thread where to post this. I must shamefully admit that I did not yet read thru the entire thread as I didn't have time yet. I will however within the next few days, so if somebody knows the answers are in this thread, just point it out.

Thanks.

dicountable: in general only the standard tariffs published in written at the local office... these are like the rack rates in hotel.

the difference between holiday, early booking etc. rates and flexible is that only the later can be cancelled, rebooked without any fee.

to book your plat card rates, they need to be stored in your online profile by sixt. after login you see your company/status card rates. ask cs if you have still problems with that

Apologies for asking a few questions at once but after going through the 14 pages in this thread I'm still not completely sure I'm "optimizing" my upcoming rental. I used to be quite familiar with renting cars from Europcar or Sixt clocking something like 30-40 rentals a year with Sixt in 2002-2004. However, after moving to SIN (Singapore) I'm only a sporadic user of Sixt services and only rent when visiting good 'ol Germany.

I have a Sixt Plat card (through my company where everyone gets one though I'm also SEN) and recently changed the address in my online profile from Germany to Singapore to reflect the current residence. I also have a LH SEN Visa credit card for the insurance (registered to my German address ).

I'm renting from a Thursday, 12:00pm to Monday, 09:00am at the Internet weekend rate excl. insurance and am quoted EUR 100,66 including the service charge of EUR 16,06 and VAT for a ILMR (VW Passat) for pick up at at LEJ (Leipzig Airport). Not bad in my opinion as it is for 4 days and I think you guys discussed that rates increased in 2007 and the days of 77 EUR LDAR rates (for Fri, 12:00pm to Mon, 9:00am) are gone. Mileage credit will go to LH and I'm planning to double dip with HHonors.

Now my questions. Is the rate good or should I try different things? I have tried to double dip with HHonors before but never gotten any credit nor claimed it with Hilton so would I still qualify for the first time 2.5K HH credit? I entered the number into the reservation in the way ulev described it so hope it will work this time. Last but not least, with my address now being in Singapore is there still the promo to get 2K LH miles when renting abroad (in Germany in this case) or is that just for US residents?

Your insights are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Cheers...

Now my questions. Is the rate good or should I try different things?

I think the rate is very good. Doesn't seem to be the LH rate, rather your company rate linked with your PLAT card.

I have tried to double dip with HHonors before but never gotten any credit nor claimed it with Hilton so would I still qualify for the first time 2.5K HH credit? I entered the number into the reservation in the way ulev described it so hope it will work this time.

Should work, even with the 2500.

Last but not least, with my address now being in Singapore is there still the promo to get 2K LH miles when renting abroad (in Germany in this case) or is that just for US residents?

Sorry, that promotion is sadly gone since August. While it was there it worked for any cross border rental anywhere. I am still hoping it will come back, as one year ago they also took a break of 1-2 months. However, Sixt is just the most unpredictable player in that market. So you never know.

THanks ulev, much appreciated.

THanks ulev, much appreciated.

For some very strange reason the internet rates at LEJ are ridiculously low. to get a 3series FMDR for 69e plus service charge for a normal weekend is completely impossible on any rate I know, be it Journalist rate, Sentor or HON or the Sixt Amex gold tariff.

Does anyone have an explanation for that?

you can even get the 3series for a long weekend for the same 69 EUR. Not bad at all.

could anybody tell me what the systems tell the representatives at checkin (sixt-counter) about the client? Any ideas?

Is there antyhing like a priority status listed in the system?

Ulev, does anything special need to be done on the booking to earn the 2500 HHonors points?

Thanks.

Is there antyhing like a priority status listed in the system?

depends, if the car is booked through the status or not. but if you in the reservation only put in your name without the gold or platinum card, the system wont tell the assistant even though you are one. therefore always put in the number after chosing the tariff or book the tariff which is valid for the card anyway

Hello,
i have one question. Is it possible to get two Diamond Cards ? Is the second Diamond Card you can get a Ladies Card for your GF or can you give the Card to an other person ?

Thanks

kwoj

Hello,
i have one question. Is it possible to get two Diamond Cards ? Is the second Diamond Card you can get a Ladies Card for your GF or can you give the Card to an other person ?

Thanks

kwoj

as a HON you can order a second card - dont know about Hilton Diamond, or if you got it directly from sixt without any other status

MagB

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I have noticed lately that using my Platinum discount is lower than logging in without the Platinum card number. Last year, it was much higher by about 40% even with the "35% discount." It seems Sixt has updated their system and now my prices are lower. It's a hit and miss and I find myself checking both rates before proceeding!

I have noticed lately that using my Platinum discount is lower than logging in without the Platinum card number. Last year, it was much higher by about 40% even with the "35% discount." It seems Sixt has updated their system and now my prices are lower. It's a hit and miss and I find myself checking both rates before proceeding!

are you sure you are not using the 35% platinum rate and the 35% (L3) International discount rate? yes, in this case platinum rate is more expensive for weekends. (but not for a whole week)

the 2 rates are calculated on different base rates. (for whatever reason only sixt will know)

Just had a FDMR dropped at my door by my local rural SIXT station (about 15 miles away from me) for a 28-day longterm rental.

Turned out to be a Mercedes CLS Diesel. ^

Not too shabby given a rate of EUR 626 (+ 19% VAT) for 28 days, plus EUR 103 (+ 19% VAT) for the snow tires. Since the rental on my company, the VAT doesn't count, anyway.

Just had a FDMR dropped at my door by my local rural SIXT station (about 15 miles away from me) for a 28-day longterm rental.

Turned out to be a Mercedes CLS Diesel. ^

Not too shabby given a rate of EUR 626 (+ 19% VAT) for 28 days, plus EUR 103 (+ 19% VAT) for the snow tires. Since the rental on my company, the VAT doesn't count, anyway.

Thanks, great, flysurfer! How many LH miles will you get?

Thanks, great, flysurfer! How many LH miles will you get?

Only 500, I guess.
And 500 HH points.

Or maybe not, as Sixt appears to exclude long-term contracts from mileage earning.
Then again, I couldn't care less about those miles.

I recieved the Sixt Plat membership via the united Ameniti program which was cancelled last year. Does anyone have any idea if they will renew me for '08? I rented with them 4-5 times including 2 1 month rentals. Not sure what the qualifications are for Plat, but I also have Herzt 5-satr, and there isn't much qual for that status.

The Status with Sixt does not expire, as far as I know. If you once got it you will stay with it.

Just called Sixt and was told that Sixt status does expire.

Just called Sixt and was told that Sixt status does expire.

Sixt told me that the Sixt status does not expire. Sounds logical (Diamond for example).

Ok, Dimamond is a special status that you can't earn by just renting cars. so that might be different from Plat and Gold....

I have Platinum for 4 years (and still have) and never received the 20+ rentals again which were required that time.

So how's the car at Munich airport now? (Last time I got a car there was JAn 07 when I get a 520d)
heard that they have C30 and 535d now. Is that true? and any other new cars recently?

heard that they have C30 and 535d now. Is that true?

They still didn't have the 535d at MUC a few weeks ago. They even didn't have the 650 coupe I ordered, so I settled with a 630i convertible (but for a FDMR rate). My local station also had a few Mercedes CLS 320d, which were quite nice, I drove one of them for several weeks, then switched to a BMW 530d.

However, according to my local station, new interesting cars are in the pipeline at Sixt, including Audi S5, Mercedes GL, BMW 135 etc.

So how's the car at Munich airport now? (Last time I got a car there was JAn 07 when I get a 520d)
heard that they have C30 and 535d now. Is that true? and any other new cars recently?

I have never seen a 535d, even though they say on the website that they have them. however, I have seen once an S600 in the normal fleet. If the 135 and s5 exist as much as the S600, chances are 0 to get one.
I have seen the GL320CDI at at least 3 airports in germany, not that rare.

The C30 has sometimes an 1.6 petrol engine. (I think only the 1.4 Golf I had today is worse)

630 and 650 is the same for sixt, its more likely the convertible is a 630 and the coupe is a 650.

In general munic has the biggest choice and is not too fussy about upgrades.

If the 135 and s5 exist as much as the S600, chances are 0 to get one.

Since I remember driving a S600 for several weeks when renting an LDAR, I guess my chances are quite decent. :)

For now, I'm quite happy with my 630. I'll keep it for a few more weeks.

Hi, which station in Munich (except airport & rail station) is the best in terms of upgrade chances & car choices?

Hi, which station in Munich (except airport & rail station) is the best in terms of upgrade chances & car choices?


probably stachus.
gave me an volvo xc70 for an cxmr booking

Hello everyone.

Planning a summer vacation driving around Germany and Italy this summer, flying in to Munich airport (MUC).

At home I currently drive a BMW 5 series (and I am very pleased with it^), and the main reason for choosing Sixt is to able to rent a BMW.

So, what Sixt stations are the best to use to increase the possibillity to get a BMW for my rental with code LDAR? My hopes are that I will receive a 6 cylinder car. Gasoline or diesel, what is to be preferred in Germany?

On the web-site I see several stations listed for Munich in addition to Munchen airport, and some of them have BMW in their name, such as Munchen BMW Frankfurter ring,Munchen BMW Mitte etc. Do the stations with BMW in their name carry BMW exclusively, or are they just located close to a BMW facory/plant?

I have read the flyertalk forums for a while, and I would like to take the opportunity in my first post to thank all of the posters sharing all their knowledge.

Welcome to FT!

I would hope for a 530d and settle for a 525d. The new 525ds with the brand new automatic transmission are absolutely impressive. Just had one a couple of weeks ago and didn't want to give it back.

Your best bet is of course MUC airport, but there is the extra airport service fee.

So what I suggest (I assume you arrive by air) is, to make 2 reservations, one at the airport for 24 hours and a second one at the most convenient location for your further travel plans. When you get to the second station just tell them you want to keep this car. They can check it in and rent it out to you again in a few minutes. I have done this hundreds of times, always works except in the few occasions when they have a manufacturers recall or mandatory check.

If you don't like this procedure and want to go straight forward, I recommend making a reservation for Munich East (Ost). Call them approx. one day before your pick up and ask nicely to reserve a BMW 5 for you. You have to call the central service number, but there you can ask to be transfered to any station you want to talk to directly.

Hope you get what you are looking for.



Hello everyone.

Planning a summer vacation driving around Germany and Italy this summer, flying in to Munich airport (MUC).

At home I currently drive a BMW 5 series (and I am very pleased with it^), and the main reason for choosing Sixt is to able to rent a BMW.

So, what Sixt stations are the best to use to increase the possibillity to get a BMW for my rental with code LDAR? My hopes are that I will receive a 6 cylinder car. Gasoline or diesel, what is to be preferred in Germany?

On the web-site I see several stations listed for Munich in addition to Munchen airport, and some of them have BMW in their name, such as Munchen BMW Frankfurter ring,Munchen BMW Mitte etc. Do the stations with BMW in their name carry BMW exclusively, or are they just located close to a BMW facory/plant?

I have read the flyertalk forums for a while, and I would like to take the opportunity in my first post to thank all of the posters sharing all their knowledge.

looking at the current fleet at sixt... ldar is more likely to result in a e280cdi
but munic airport also has a lot of xdar... maybe you can persuade them to give you a 730d. (when I was there 2weeks ago they had probably 5x audi a8 3.0tdi)
otherwise I can only recommend the way "ulev" suggested.

btw, the 5series at europcar are either 520d sedane or 530d estate.
but the majority is e220cdi or worse: e200komp.

in the end its luck and difficult to influence
but the e280cdi hat a map with the navigation (which hasnt been the case 6months ago), so that wouldnt be too bad either, even though I admit the 530d is much better

Hi roarmom,

the Sixt Station named with BMW are inside of a BMW retailer.
At these Sixt stations you will only get a BMW (OK, also a MINI).

If you want to get a BMW, choose one of these stations.

The best way is, as suggested by ulev, to make a reservation at the Airport and a second one at one of these BMW-Sixt stations. You will have a comfortable transfer to your Hotel and latest after the change of the car you will have a BMW.

There seem to be a lot of Audi A8 3.0 diesels at Sixt currently. I have had 3 of those in a row now.

Does anybody have experience with the sixt station at FDH (Friedrichshafen airport)? My reservation for the upcoming weekend is for LDAR, booked under the Platinum/SEN rate as usual.

At this outstation I think an upgrade is quite unlikely so what's the most likely car here for this class? BMW 525/530 or Merc E280? Hopefully the first one; so far I always ended up with a BMW for my rentals at FRA airport.

Any experience?

Can anyone share any experiences with the Munich City Stachus location? It will be the most convenient location for me and my primary concerns are with the availability of nice cars (A BMW 1er or 3er would be ideal) and hassle given on rental and return (not looking to have a cleaning fee charged or have the car examined with a microsope) so I'm willing to move the reservation if there's a better choice.

Also, what should I expect to get when requesting a navigation system? I have seen mentions of a portable Tomtom unit but do I also have a chance of getting integrated navigation?

I'd also like to share the discount link I found from United: http://www.sixt.com/partner/united/. It doesn't save much for the Stachus location but offers significant savings at other locations for my dates.

in contrast to europcar it is very rare that you get an external navigation system, usually they are integrated.
3series exist only with sat nav as far as I have seen.

I only had one rental once at stachus, kind of tricky to find the entrance for returning the car. but when I was there they didnt make it complicated. gave me a volvo xc70 for cxmr rental (with sixt plat)

in that area it is the biggest station in munic I think, therefore biggest choice of cars, so I would stick with it.

There seem to be a lot of Audi A8 3.0 diesels at Sixt currently. I have had 3 of those in a row now.This is great news...

I've rented with sixt 3 times this year only, this is what I've received:

1. MUC Airport - booked LDAR, received an A8 4.2 TDI - OMG, I almost had an orgasm driving it... slamming the gas at 180 km/h, the car pulls more than the 730d I had next from 100 km/h.

2. FRA Airport - booked LDAR, received a 730d... nice set of rims. It was a beauty... just not fast enough.

3. MUC Airport - booked LDAR, received an A6 3.0 TDI S-type (only the exterior was S-type... the actual car was the standard A6). It was brand new...

I'm picking up a car in MUC in a couple of days to vacation in Austria & Switzerland and reserved a LDAR. I'm going to call the day before and I don't know if I should ask for an Audi A8 or a BMW 535/525.

I will be off the highway more than on it and I will be doing a lot of mountain passes including Stelvio Pass so a car with good handling & cornering is more important than top speed on the autobahn for me.

I assume the A8's have AWD? Do the BMW 535/525?

Thanks.

I assume the A8's have AWD? Do the BMW 535/525?The A8's do. The 535/525 do not... The A6 does as well, though (which is a suitable alternative to the 5 series).

Let us know what you end up getting.

Sixt now also has the new Lexus LS600h super hybrid (445 HP).
I'm tempted to trade my current BMW 635d rental for one of those. I could get my hands on one this Thursday.

They also have quite a lot Audi S8, Mercedes SL500 etc.

guys, be careful, you are all exceeding the 75.000€ insurance limit with these car not just a bit. the s350 at sixt is already with extras close to 90.000.
SL350, CL500, S8 and so on are way above 100.000€.
which means you are risking 25.000 to 50.000€

yes, the white Audis S8 are more than beautiful, but... if the car is stolen or has total damage... you wont be renting cars for some time in the future:D

btw, sixt has 530xd (4wheeldrive), but quite rare.
many of the audi a6 are 2.7tdi. these do not have 4wheeldrive

guys, be careful, you are all exceeding the 75.000€ insurance limit with these car not just a bit. the s350 at sixt is already with extras close to 90.000.
SL350, CL500, S8 and so on are way above 100.000€.
which means you are risking 25.000 to 50.000€

yes, the white Audis S8 are more than beautiful, but... if the car is stolen or has total damage... you wont be renting cars for some time in the future:D

I hope everybody is scared now --> more choice of great cars for me. ^

The A8's do. The 535/525 do not... The A6 does as well, though (which is a suitable alternative to the 5 series).



I never had a Audi A 6 or higher without AWD - and I agree the A 8 4.2 TDI L is a nice car, esp. with the distronic system.

I have had two A 8 with the 3.0 TDI before, which were not as nice as the 4.2 TDI engine.

I'm back from vacation and Sixt MUC gave me a nearly new black BMW 530d on my LDAR rental. I tried to get an AUDI A8 on the phone and at the counter but they couldn't find me one.

The BMW was a lot of fun in the Swiss and Austrian alps with the sport mode and Dynamic Traction Control on. I saw an Audi A8L in a parking lot and it was a beautiful car but I'm not disappointed. I only got to open up to 170km/h on the German motorway north of Munich before hitting construction traffic.

are you sure you are not using the 35% platinum rate and the 35% (L3) International discount rate? yes, in this case platinum rate is more expensive for weekends. (but not for a whole week)

the 2 rates are calculated on different base rates. (for whatever reason only sixt will know)

When I travel to Germany, I never get a better rate on Sixt, comparing the one i get on Avis/Hertz, even with gold rate.
Is there any discount code i could use?

[...] the A 8 4.2 TDI L is a nice car, esp. with the distronic system. Oh yes, a really great car! ^ I got one three weeks ago for a long weekend! Great way of driving, especially as my routing was nearly 99% on highways. ;) Was very happy to get this car as my small local station even made the effort to get it from another, bigger station. Sweet!