Anyone finding the fare without the 6 day min stay?
flyingwish
Feb 16, 06, 5:22 am
Have to start travel by April 27. Anyone finding any availability in May?
Viking547
Feb 16, 06, 7:16 am
UA MR:
MBS-MNL $405++ price mistake?
BWI-MNL
$636 all inclusive for 17000 mqm
BTW - we call them EQM -- 'Elite' Qualifying Miles...not 'Medallion' Qualifying Miles :-P
...just busting your chops. Great find~thx!
LAChargers
Feb 16, 06, 8:12 am
Also, from what my travel agent told me, the tickets must be purchased by tomorrow. I purchased LAX-MNL over the weekend for $480+. $666 all-in for about 15,000 EQM.
Exact routing is LAX-SFO-HKG on UA, HKG-MNL on CX.
kctigers
Feb 16, 06, 10:15 am
hi, i fly a lot, always at my own expense, and i saw this fare and i liked it.. but, a few questions: since i always buy my tickets from the airlines directly via their websites..
1.) does this fare earn frequent flyer miles?
2.) if so on what airline or airlines?
3.) when i am on united's website they say i cannot book a ticket to manila, so why can i with this site with united?
4.) when this company travelocity, puts u on say united and american, with the same flight, assuming u have a frequent flyer account with both, how do they determine, which and if you will get frequent flyer points with them.
5.) i have never used a different source for ticketing, other than the airlines directly.
thank you for your help.
p.s. one thing i really do not understand is: why can this site book a ticket on ual from mci-manila, (home airport is mci), when i cannot even book a ticket to manila on ual from lax or sfo, both getaways to manila and se asia.
thank you.
tcook052
Feb 16, 06, 10:17 am
Anyone finding the fare without the 6 day min stay?
Nope, a downside to be sure if your schedule only permits immediate turnaround, but not a killer if you've never been to MNL and want to see the city.
skchin
Feb 16, 06, 10:29 am
MQM or EQM all the same to me..
planeluvr
Feb 16, 06, 10:41 am
MQM or EQM all the same to me..
Glossary of Frequent Flyer Terms (http://web2.flyertalk.com/glossary/)
Skchin, Welcome to FT!
kctigers
Feb 16, 06, 4:40 pm
can someone please help me and answer the questions above in the earlier post by me, thank you.
hfallen
Feb 16, 06, 6:11 pm
Yes, of course, this will earn miles!!!!
United is a member of Star Alliance, so you'd generally get miles on any of the partner airlines. Travelocity tickets get miles too! (Double check the fare class against the program you want to credit the miles to--some fares don't earn miles in some programs.)
hi, i fly a lot, always at my own expense, and i saw this fare and i liked it.. but, a few questions: since i always buy my tickets from the airlines directly via their websites..
1.) does this fare earn frequent flyer miles?
2.) if so on what airline or airlines?
3.) when i am on united's website they say i cannot book a ticket to manila, so why can i with this site with united?
4.) when this company travelocity, puts u on say united and american, with the same flight, assuming u have a frequent flyer account with both, how do they determine, which and if you will get frequent flyer points with them.
5.) i have never used a different source for ticketing, other than the airlines directly.
thank you for your help.
p.s. one thing i really do not understand is: why can this site book a ticket on ual from mci-manila, (home airport is mci), when i cannot even book a ticket to manila on ual from lax or sfo, both getaways to manila and se asia.
thank you.
kctigers
Feb 16, 06, 8:17 pm
i still do not understand why i cannot book this fare on united's website? it says they do not go to manila? how do i check the fare rules? airlines do not have a policy, as most hotel chains do, as u have to purchase the fare on their site or u do not get points, i.e. a hotel purchased on priceline, earns no points, while a hotel purchased on hilton.com earns points. can someone please explain this to me.
thank you.
work2fly
Feb 16, 06, 8:32 pm
ual.bomb basically sucks
my recommendation would be to either book this on Travelocity (not Expedia b/c they have historically failed to honor advertised prices) or call UA and book over the phone. Either way, you'll earn miles on your ticket. Caveat: $5 extra to book on Travelocity and some amount to book via telephone with UA if you're not 1K
kctigers
Feb 16, 06, 8:56 pm
how come it says on united;s website that they do not go to manila, and if i call them then i can book the fare? i do not understand this logic. i thought that websites were the same info as the reservation agents?
work2fly
Feb 16, 06, 9:05 pm
united does not fly to MNL - so the ticket rules allow you to use another carrier to get from a city serviced by UA on to MNL
ual.com is not a very good website and doesn't accomodate this - so you're stuck with purchasing the tickets some other way
kctigers
Feb 16, 06, 9:08 pm
how come it says on united;s website that they do not go to manila, and if i call them then i can book the fare? i do not understand this logic. i thought that websites were the same info as the reservation agents?
work2fly
Feb 16, 06, 9:18 pm
ual.com sometimes defies logic
Just today I booked a trip from LAX-GRU on Travelocity b/c ual.com wouldn't let me do it - can't explain why, it's just one of those things.
how come it says on united;s website that they do not go to manila, and if i call them then i can book the fare? i do not understand this logic. i thought that websites were the same info as the reservation agents?
butterflykisses
Feb 16, 06, 9:27 pm
Has anyone found this after April.
UA 882
Feb 16, 06, 9:39 pm
how come it says on united;s website that they do not go to manila, and if i call them then i can book the fare? i do not understand this logic. i thought that websites were the same info as the reservation agents?
OMG! I don't mean to be rude, but you have posted the same question 3 times!
www.united.com is the worst airline website that exists in the continental US and beyond! It will book you on Iberia to Frankfurt when United offers a service on a quicker route AND when there is availability! It will tell you that you don't have any reservations when in fact it does. It will tell you that Syracuse doesn't exist as an airport, and it will tell you that tickets to MNL can't be booked.
We all don't know how they are still making money! Just book on travelocity!
skchin
Feb 16, 06, 9:41 pm
The guy post stutters, he can't help it ;)
jef7
Feb 17, 06, 1:18 am
OMG! I don't mean to be rude, but you have posted the same question 3 times!
:D
And with much patience work2fly answered them 3 times ^ .
PDXUAFAN
Feb 24, 06, 4:57 pm
In light of the turmoil in the Philippines, I contacted UA's reservations to see about cancelling my tix for next week and to see what kind of hit I would take. Although the fare rules stated non-refundable, my CSR took it up for review with the "rate's desk (sp?)," some sort of superior ruling official.
After about five minutes on hold the CSR came back to say that although the fare rules stated non-refundable, the tariff's and something else override the fare rules and that the tix are refundable up to 7 days prior to departure.
I know that some booked through travelocity and expedia and I don't know what happens with those, but if you called in and booked with UA's phone reservation last week and you too are feeling a bit queasy about the Philippines, give UA a jingle.
Sunnyhere
Feb 24, 06, 6:32 pm
It's possibly a very exciting time to visit the PI, I'm certainly not planning to cancel my visit, leaving in less than a week.
olimaspecto
Feb 24, 06, 6:35 pm
It's possibly a very exciting time to visit the PI, I'm certainly not planning to cancel my visit, leaving in less than a week.
If by possibly very exciting you mean possibly very dangerous, then that's correct. Check out the State Department Warning:
A reference to "coup" whistles? I'd have little concern about that impacting my physical security.
EmailKid
Feb 24, 06, 7:08 pm
Feel free to stay home, but I felt fine on both of my visits last year.
Wish I had an opportunity to take advantage of this fine offer.
Maybe next time.
EmaiKid
MrHalliday
Feb 24, 06, 7:36 pm
the tariff's and something else override the fare rules and that the tix are refundable up to 7 days prior to departure.Any more details on the specific tariff/fare rule being applied here?
So it wasn't just a nice gesture from UA,
but the (TXMNL?) is actually a 7-day prior refundable ticket?
I don't plan to cancel, this trip will get me to 1P,
and the Philippines always seems to be OK with a coup here and there.
I read the state dept advisory last month when in MNL,
and am now inspired to visit Zamboanga
and maybe onward to Basilan Island. :eek:
Also, the news has had a small beneficial effect on the exchange rate,
potentially reducing the price of a beer below the critical 50-cent level! ^
kctigers
Feb 24, 06, 8:46 pm
i do not understand some of you and your callous attitudes towards other human beings.. just because you are born in america does not make you superior.. i am a fist-generation, american, father born in europe and i have been to pi, a few times, but saying in effect" the philippines has a coup every now and then" is just ridiculous, and downright mean and talking about the cost of beer being so cheap, you sir/madam are very cheap yourself. this is not something to laugh at. a coup is a terrible thing, and although i do think and knwo that pi, is a 3rd world country and is very backwards, does not give you the rights or anything to make snide remarks about a coup, and worry about a beer less than a certain amount... most of those people make 200 or less a month, and u are happy that there is a coup so that you can get cheaper beer, how dare you. i mean do you Mr. Halliday laugh at September 7th, 2001? or laugh at December 7, 1941? alghough this has not esclated that far, it always can, especially in a 3rd world country and with so many poor and homeless people, i mean, come on, pi, makes our ghettos here look like beverly hills... thank you for listening.
ja_user
Feb 24, 06, 9:03 pm
[QUOTE=kctigers] i mean do you Mr. Halliday laugh at September 7th, 2001? or laugh at December 7, 1941? QUOTE]
Sept 7th has no significant meaning to most people. Perhaps you meant the 11th?
I don't think he was trying to play down what a coup is. I believe he was just saying that it happens (and it does happen), and that is may not be a reason to change your travel plans.
And as far as the exchange rate, that is always a consideration when planning an international trip....
Lighten up.... Personally I am tired of people not being able to speak their mind, becuase everyone gets offended over something.
Don't turn this into another Political Thread.
flyingwish
Feb 24, 06, 9:03 pm
It's possibly a very exciting time to visit the PI, I'm certainly not planning to cancel my visit, leaving in less than a week.
I will be arriving in mNL at 11:05PM via HKG on PH0311 flight on March 03. Maybe we can meet there? When will you be there.
kctigers
Feb 24, 06, 9:08 pm
yes, sorry i meant sept. 11th, i just wanted this person, to understand that this was very serious and not to make light of it, and to not be happy that a military junta is going on, so that he can get a better exchange rate, he is already wasy ahead of people in pi, just by being an american. i do not understand u people. i mean if i had a ticket i would probably still go on the trip, but i would not be making light of the situation or be glad that my exchange rate went up cause of some military action. that is ridiculous.
moondog
Feb 24, 06, 9:14 pm
but saying in effect" the philippines has a coup every now and then" is just ridiculous, and downright mean
That statement might be ridiculous/mean if it weren't true, but since it is true, it is nothing more than a factual observation (although I agree the cheap beer bit was a little over the top).
What's more, the presence of absense of coups is a relevant issue, insofar as making travel related decisions is concerned. Curiously, some people (Filipino's and foreigners alike) seem to thrive from the excitement, while others such as myself prefer to avoid that kind of excitement.
One would hope that this thread, in the context of a more comprehensive research effort, could help potential travelers decide whether or not to put their Phils plans on hold due to political/safety concerns. However, the editorial stuff is probably better suited for OMNI.
bhatnasx
Feb 24, 06, 9:35 pm
Folks,
Please stay on topic.
bhatnasx
Mileage Run Moderator
fallinasleep
Feb 24, 06, 10:02 pm
was there really an attempted coup or is it just an excuse for an embattled president to cling to power?
MrHalliday
Feb 24, 06, 11:21 pm
Folks,Please stay on topic.
bhatnasx
Mileage Run ModeratorExactly,
and I won't bother rebutting the silly attack,
as others have done a fine job of it for me. ;)
SO...back to the topic which I posted about,
I really do want to know if someone has worked this out,
I am in SE Asia now and am not sure
how to get to a copy of the full fare rules to review.
i.e. on the TXMNL fare basis do we truly have the right
to cancel 7 days before with full refund?
moondog
Feb 24, 06, 11:24 pm
i.e. on the TXMNL fare basis do we truly have the right
to cancel 7 days before with full refund?
If there is newsworthy unrest, you don't need an FT thread to tell you whether or not you can cancel.
MrHalliday
Feb 24, 06, 11:33 pm
If there is newsworthy unrest, you don't need an FT thread to tell you whether or not you can cancel.The topic of this thread is the refundablity of this particular fare.
Civil unrest might make a non-ref fare refundable,
but if this is really refundable, I missed that feature
and it could be interesting from other angles,
like if I wanted to change my mind for no reason at all.
I remain curious about the details, if anyone has any real facts.
moondog
Feb 24, 06, 11:42 pm
I remain curious about the details, if anyone has any real facts.
What kind of facts do you need? If reputable news sources (or the US State Department) suggest that the Phils are dangerous during your travel time frame, you can cancel without penalty. I'm very certain about this.
PDXUAFAN
Feb 25, 06, 12:33 am
I cancelled our tix for a full refund. The reason I cancelled was because of the unrest. The reason I got a full refund was because of something in the fare rules. According to the UA CSR, the fare rules state non-refundable, but after researching with the "rates desk" discovered that something a tariff or something overruled the fare rule and allowed for full refund with cancellation 7-day prior to trip.
That's all I know and that's what I posted for anyone else who has second thoughts about the trip.
phon
Feb 25, 06, 12:46 am
What kind of facts do you need? If reputable news sources (or the US State Department) suggest that the Phils are dangerous during your travel time frame, you can cancel without penalty. I'm very certain about this.
I guess it depends on who you talk to. From an UA supervisor who said that at this time the situation in the Philippines doesn't warrant to give a waiver on non-refundable, non transferrable tickets tickets to the Philippines. The same supervisor added that nevertheless they were monitoring the situation there and if need be that could change and a waiver be offered. By the way the US State Department is from March 2005, so a year old if I am correct. It has not been updated in light of the recent declaration of the PI government.
olimaspecto
Feb 25, 06, 12:54 am
By the way the US State Department is from March 2005, so a year old if I am correct. It has not been updated in light of the recent declaration of the PI government.
That is correct that March 2005 is when the original advisory was issued but teh advisory is still in effect, and when considering that with teh recent political/military actions as well, it should be taken as a whole that perhaps travel to the Philipines is not an extremely wise choice at the present moment.
MrHalliday
Feb 25, 06, 4:43 am
What kind of facts do you need? If reputable news sources (or the US State Department) suggest that the Phils are dangerous during your travel time frame, you can cancel without penalty. I'm very certain about this.Well, that doesn't seem to be verified by phon who actually checked with UA.
Please back up your statement that you are certain,
since you insist on repeating it.
Anyway, I don't wan't to cancel, this latest news blip is almost over.
The US government will continue to say travel to phils is not advisable.
They have said so for some time,
and it hasn't made NR fares refundable that I know of.
I will know it is time to cancel when NAIA is closed to incoming flights.
I don't know how to phrase this more clealy,
I looked at my earlier posts, verified I am writing in English, so...
I am NOT ASKING ABOUT CANCELLATION
with CIVIL UNREST as the REASON.
My question remains purely technical, not political at all.
If I was at home I would just call UA and get the answer.
....the answer is in the fare rules.
Really, I am sorry I asked.
I'll just sort it out when I get home next week.
Thanks PDXUAFAN for repeating what was in the OP, though. ^
johnep1
Feb 25, 06, 7:37 am
Folks,
Please stay on topic.
bhatnasx
Mileage Run Moderator
I believe discussion of beer prices is always on-topic.
:)
sbagdon
Feb 25, 06, 9:43 am
Believe this came up, in regards to Haiti. AA was cancelling flights, making all tickets (even non-refundable) refundable. From the postings in that thread, sounds like AA is getting rather good at the business practice of declaring that country off limits for periods of time.
Steve B.
notsosmart
Feb 25, 06, 10:47 am
I believe discussion of beer prices is always on-topic.
:)
So what's your spot? the Irish Lion, Nick's, or perhaps the Vid?
Look everybody: Sri Lanka is in a constant crisis, yet people keep flying ex-CMB fares. Why? Because Colombo is a perfectly safe, well-policed city, not some lawless village in the jungle that some might imagine it to be. (No offence - just a euphemism).
Same goes for Manila - especially the airport.
So go ahead and fly coach to the Philippines... if you dare! ;)
phon
Feb 25, 06, 11:30 am
Believe this came up, in regards to Haiti. AA was cancelling flights, making all tickets (even non-refundable) refundable. From the postings in that thread, sounds like AA is getting rather good at the business practice of declaring that country off limits for periods of time.
Steve B.
Haiti has been in turmoil for awhile now. How long did it take to AA to declare Haiti off limit?
Regarding ticket to MNL, at least if bought through UA CSR, you get full credit towards another ticket with UA at a higher fare without any penalty. The credit is valid for 1 year but you need to cancel the whole trip prior to departure time. $1.00 above is still a higher fare! If you want to only change the date then a penalty applies, which is less attractive. Considering how good of a deal these tickets to MNL were, it should not be too difficult to find a higher to other places if you still want to cancel. UA confirms at this time the situation in PI doesn't warrant any change in their refund/exchange policy.
bhatnasx
Feb 25, 06, 11:50 am
I have merged the two threads together as it is in regards to the same fare. In the future, please try not to start new threads on the same fare - it's best for everyone to keep the information in one thread.
Thanks!
bhatnasx
Mileage Run Moderator
yevlesh2
Feb 26, 06, 12:00 pm
I might actually have to cancel my trip (for a different reason). Has anyone else been successful in getting a complete refund?
jan_az
Feb 26, 06, 12:26 pm
Haiti has been in turmoil for awhile now. How long did it take to AA to declare Haiti off limit?
Regarding ticket to MNL, at least if bought through UA CSR, you get full credit towards another ticket with UA at a higher fare without any penalty. The credit is valid for 1 year but you need to cancel the whole trip prior to departure time. $1.00 above is still a higher fare! If you want to only change the date then a penalty applies, which is less attractive. Considering how good of a deal these tickets to MNL were, it should not be too difficult to find a higher to other places if you still want to cancel. UA confirms at this time the situation in PI doesn't warrant any change in their refund/exchange policy.
AHA!!! this is standard UA policy on international tickets. It has nothing to do with unrest anywhere.
Last yr I was unable to go to Shanghai. I cancelled the flights and got a vredit on UA that was good for 1 yr fromtime of booking , as long as the new tickets cost at least $1 more and were international
jef7
Feb 27, 06, 1:17 am
To those who are going (especially the first timers) the links below contain some quite beauiful photos of the Old Manila area and Makati city worth visiting.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=306074&page=1&pp=20
(In Spanish but the photos are amazing)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=303250&page=1&pp=20
(Informative information from the locals)
thegingerman
Feb 27, 06, 2:03 pm
Sept 7th has no significant meaning to most people. Perhaps you meant the 11th?