American Express Membership Rewards - Ask for a Centurion ?

I'm a Platinum card holder from 1 year.
I spend 4000 euro / mounth....
I'm very interested to the Centurion Card... do you think if I call and ask for it... ? :confused:

Try.... and let me know :p

I think in Italy, where the medium mounthly expense of a credit card i 200 Euro... 3000 is good for have Centurion ;)

I'm a Platinum card holder from 1 year.
I spend 4000 euro / mounth....
I'm very interested to the Centurion Card... do you think if I call and ask for it... ? :confused:

50k EUR per year, Germany should be fine as well.

Try.... and let me know :p

I think in Italy, where the medium mounthly expense of a credit card i 200 Euro... 3000 is good for have Centurion ;)

Hi, can you tell me how much did you spent a month on amex gold before being invited to platinum and for how long?
actually i charge it 1000-1500 a month ;)

Dont think it actually has to go up...my spending was consistent for 8 months before invite to platinum

I'm a Platinum card holder from 1 year.
I spend 4000 euro / mounth....
I'm very interested to the Centurion Card... do you think if I call and ask for it... ? :confused:

You should call and ask... The requirements are much lower in Europe than in the US (where you can pay for almost everything with an Amex card).

I called and asked, that's how I got the Centurion card and I'm so far happy with it...

Dont think it actually has to go up...my spending was consistent for 8 months before invite to platinum


I'm not familiar with AmEx, but I was sent an offer saying I was pre-approved for Gold. Is this the process: Use Gold for a while, get invited to Platinum, and so on and so forth?

The ultimate question... should I get that Gold card then?

The Platinum CSR will try to make you believe that you need a Platinum card in order to be invited for a Centurion card but it seems it isn't a prerequisite maybe not even a Gold card. What counts is the total amount you charge on your Amex cards.
As for me I called and asked for the Centurion card after having held the Platinum one for 5 days...

Hi, can you tell me how much did you spent a month on amex gold before being invited to platinum and for how long?
actually i charge it 1000-1500 a month ;)

If you send 1500.... for One year... I think is good.

Amex propose me Platinum via WEB.

If you want... ask for it ^

actually i cannot remember it's annual fee for italy? :cool:

Annual Fee for Italy is 516 euro for Platinum

Translation in Italian --> for italian friends :cool:

Ciao ! il costo annuale è di 516 euro per la platino.

I wonder if you can actually be "pre-selected" by luck for the Centurion card without spending the $250K a year. If that even possible? Lets say AMEX (Platinum) see you spending a good fair amount each month and your payments are perfect, can you actually be lucky enough to be invited to the Centurion card?

I wonder if you can actually be "pre-selected" by luck for the Centurion card without spending the $250K a year. If that even possible? Lets say AMEX (Platinum) see you spending a good fair amount each month and your payments are perfect, can you actually be lucky enough to be invited to the Centurion card?

No. You have to meet the spending reqirement.

Annual Fee for Italy is 516 euro for Platinum

Translation in Italian --> for italian friends :cool:

Ciao ! il costo annuale è di 516 euro per la platino.
grazie :) (this should be some kind of international recognised language)

No. You have to meet the spending reqirement.
Hmm alright, I thought I misread something then.. Thanks

No. You have to meet the spending reqirement.

Deposit in Amex Private Bank or bugging the hell out of Amex until they bend...

It was reported here...

No. You have to meet the spending reqirement.
Wrong - Areas outside of the US DO NOT have the $250k spend requirment. In the UK, Germany, Italy things are very different. You get an invite.

The $250k is a US requirment not a global one

No. You have to meet the spending reqirement.

not in Europe, some time with Plat and/or a history with Amex in other countries, always paying on time ... and they will let you have one :D .

Tomorrow I'm going to call and ask for it.
In June I'm going to get married... Centurion privilegies form e are good, expecialy SPG Platinum.
I travel a lot for work and having Centurion Insurance is very fine and interesting.

konigadler, have you call ?

not in Europe, some time with Plat and/or a history with Amex in other countries, always paying on time ... and they will let you have one :D .I figure so, thanks for the heads up ^

I asked if i met the requirements in Italy...I am plat and spend over 50k a year on it..and they said.....Noooooooo :td:

I wonder if you can actually be "pre-selected" by luck for the Centurion card without spending the $250K a year. If that even possible? Lets say AMEX (Platinum) see you spending a good fair amount each month and your payments are perfect, can you actually be lucky enough to be invited to the Centurion card?
I`ve been platinum for about 5 years,my spending about 2000 Euro/month,most of it spent on private travels,only 5* hotels.Got my invitation in Oct. 2005 and,after doing investigations on flyertalk,decided to join.Now,I`m happy with the status,because the upgrades are great compared to the yearly fee of 1000 Euro.

They seem to be giving it away in Germany again ! € 2000 per month now qualifies for Centurion ???

They seem to be giving it away in Germany again ! € 2000 per month now qualifies for Centurion ???

hard to believe. "only 5 star hotels" and "2,000 EUR per month" doesn't quite match either IMHO.

I asked if i met the requirements in Italy...I am plat and spend over 50k a year on it..and they said.....Noooooooo :td:

I suggest you to retry with another operator ;)

I asked if i met the requirements in Italy...I am plat and spend over 50k a year on it..and they said.....Noooooooo :td:

or ask to be put through directly to the Centurion team ... better yet just phone them up. I am sure someone here has the number ;)

or ask to be put through directly to the Centurion team ... better yet just phone them up. I am sure someone here has the number ;)

I have call this mooring and operator wasn't able to tell me the parameters :confused:

I will try in the next week and hope to find another operator...

I'm ready to pay the full annual fee..... Amex don't want my 1000 Euro ? :confused: ;)

Wrong - Areas outside of the US DO NOT have the $250k spend requirment. In the UK, Germany, Italy things are very different. You get an invite.

The $250k is a US requirment not a global one

Never did I say it was. I was responding to the original posters question as to whether he could bypass the $250K spending requirement. My original post was correct as there is no such thing as "being pre-selected by luck for the Centurion card". I stand by my original post.

I wonder if you can actually be "pre-selected by luck for the Centurion card without spending the $250K a year.

They seem to be giving it away in Germany again ! € 2000 per month now qualifies for Centurion ???
It was in October 2004,and yes,after reading all the posts on FT,I was surprised that they had offered the card to me.But it`s the spending pattern I think, and I`ve lifted my spending since that up to 5000 Euro/m,only private spending,of course.If we could use the Amex for taxes in Germany,the 250K wouldn`t be a problem.

hard to believe. "only 5 star hotels" and "2,000 EUR per month" doesn't quite match either IMHO.
I`m working at home,no need for travelling,but once in every month I make a trip to Berlin,staying 3 or 4 days.Adlon,Ritz Carlton etc.,just for recreation.Sounds crazy,but living in a small village,working about 70 hours a week,I need these travelling for culture and shopping.

It was in October 2004,and yes,after reading all the posts on FT,I was surprised that they had offered the card to me.But it`s the spending pattern I think, and I`ve lifted my spending since that up to 5000 Euro/m,only private spending,of course.If we could use the Amex for taxes in Germany,the 250K wouldn`t be a problem.

:eek: you sure pay a lot of taxes then, 190K EUR taxes ... and still paying them in Germany ;)

I`m working at home,no need for travelling,but once in every month I make a trip to Berlin,staying 3 or 4 days.Adlon,Ritz Carlton etc.,just for recreation.Sounds crazy,but living in a small village,working about 70 hours a week,I need these travelling for culture and shopping.
Very lucky for work at home ;)
If you need help.... I can help you :D

Very lucky for work at home ;)
If you need help.... I can help you :D
if you should happen to be a physician,speaking German.Our patients don`t want a doctor who doesn`t understand their idiom :)

Her Doktor help me !

I continue to need to spend a lot of money ;) !

I have call... ask for it... and have it !
Now I have take Centurion for 1000 euro /year.... spendigin 2000/3000 every mounth.... ^

Very nice benefit for me !

thanks all!

I don't quite get it...

Is the fee in Europe officially down to 1'000 Euros/year for the Centurion? Nobody se"ems to be paying the 2'500 or 2'000 Euros fee.

What are the actual / practical requirements for this card in continental Europe?

It depends from which country you are.
In Italy annual fee is 1000 Euro for Centurion and 516 for Platinum ( with 1 add Plat card for you + 1 Platinum and 4 Gold for other people ).

France.

The country where spending more than 2'000 Euros a month on an Amex is nearly impossible...

Well spending with an Amex card in France requires the will to do so in the sense that you can buy most of the things you might need with an Amex card but you need to investigate which merchants accept it so it can be quite bothersome sometimes...

It happened to me many times that I didn't buy something I wanted right away because I couldn't use my Amex card to pay for it and ended finding the same article somewhere I could use my Amex card...

But then maybe I hang out too much on FT and am addicted to miles...

France.

The country where spending more than 2'000 Euros a month on an Amex is nearly impossible...

I did that in 2 days in the Ritz Paris :p

I dont need to mention: South of France.

In Italy we have the same problems...

A lot of times I choose the shops where I can Pay with Amex... but they aren't a lots ( with the exclusion of Supermarket, big retail chain, etc)
So... This mounth I have charge on my card 4800 Euro... I think I'm a good clinet for AMEX considering not all Shops accept it !

why don't you ask for a centurion one?
:)

I have ask for one.... is only on invite :D

I will waiting.... but I'm sure they have take a note I have ask for it ;)

I have ask for one.... is only on invite :D

I will waiting.... but I'm sure they have take a note I have ask for it ;)

great, i know.

i asked the CSR fair lady what about giving me a platinum (i charge 1500 circa by month on my gold). she took down a note, but i'm not sure wether they want or not to give away a plat to a 24 years old :rolleyes:

great, i know.

i asked the CSR fair lady what about giving me a platinum (i charge 1500 circa by month on my gold). she took down a note, but i'm not sure wether they want or not to give away a plat to a 24 years old :rolleyes:


They give me the Platinum last year .... at 24 too ;)

They give me the Platinum last year .... at 24 too ;)
how long have you been with them? :)

how long have you been with them? :)

One year with Blu and one year with gold.

Member since 2003 :)

They give me the Platinum last year .... at 24 too ;)

Don't think that age has anything to do with it. I had a Plat card just after turning 21 in the UK. Lindsay Lohan at 18 has a Centurion card....which was posted on the net IIRC :p

Lindsay Lohan at 18 has a Centurion card....which was posted on the net IIRC ....

How much money has she ??? :D
Has she a boyfrined ???? :D :D :D

One year with Blu and one year with gold.

Member since 2003 :)

can i ask you what is your business? :D

Working in a big retail elettronic distribution companay in security dept.

MediaWorld...

Working in a big retail elettronic distribution companay in security dept.

MediaWorld...
really interesting, in milan? :D

i should find out how can i make them give me a plat without annual fee :p

Non in Milano... in Bergamo ;)

I don't think is possibile to have a free annula fee with platinum..... my amex expires on April... and in April I must pay 516 euro....

Non in Milano... in Bergamo ;)

I don't think is possibile to have a free annula fee with platinum..... my amex expires on April... and in April I must pay 516 euro....
that makes 516 mr points :D

that makes 516 mr points :D

They give me 5000 points for upgrade from gold to platinum

I got my gold with 22 and the platinum a month later....
Also gotten the Black Mastercard (world signia) at 23...

Shrug. Not that hard, havent been able to get my hands on a centurion yet tho... :(


EDIT: Im German

I got my gold with 22 and the platinum a month later....
Also gotten the Black Mastercard (world signia) at 23...

Shrug. Not that hard, havent been able to get my hands on a centurion yet tho... :(


EDIT: Im German



Hi,

Which bank issued the world signia to you ? what are the requirements ?

thanks

Kwoj

that makes 516 mr points :D

Hi Matteo.

Been with amex for 16 months, I had a gold card, spent some 60k euro.

I'm 23 and I'm going to collect my platinum card tomorrow in via Larga and they even offered me the Alitalia Gold together without paying 190euro of annual fee, just the 516 for the plat

cheers

Hi Matteo.

Been with amex for 16 months, I had a gold card, spent some 60k euro.

I'm 23 and I'm going to collect my platinum card tomorrow in via Larga and they even offered me the Alitalia Gold together without paying 190euro of annual fee, just the 516 for the plat

cheers

macos? this nickname doesn't sound new to me... :D

Hi,

Which bank issued the world signia to you ? what are the requirements ?

thanks

Kwoj


Hypovereinsbank, they basically require some form of ensurance - so cash or whatever else in their bank, 75k is the minimum, so not that much, though they do prefer over 100k in assets at the bank.

Its called Premium Card there and its obviously black.

I wonder what the requirement for min. spend required for the idc centurion card?

I wonder what the requirement for min. spend required for the idc centurion card?

International cards are managed by AMEX UK - most probably the same requirements are valid for International cards than for UK cards (just convert Sterlings to Dollars/Euros).

International cards are managed by AMEX UK - most probably the same requirements are valid for International cards than for UK cards (just convert Sterlings to Dollars/Euros).

...which doesn't help as there isn't a min spend in the UK :p Generally though it is perfect payment history (on Plat Charge Card); hold it for a year and; I was told about 11 months ago (by Amex) that £1500 to £2000 was sufficient to get Centurion, however I would imagine this would have grown by now.

Also, they've issued too many in the UK, so no one is getting it at the moment (I wonder if this applies to IDC/IEC?). Hopefully invitations will be sent out in the next couple months ;)

...which doesn't help as there isn't a min spend in the UK :p Generally though it is perfect payment history (on Plat Charge Card); hold it for a year and; I was told about 11 months ago (by Amex) that £1500 to £2000 was sufficient to get Centurion, however I would imagine this would have grown by now.

Platinum CS told me that there is a requirement for 130,000GBP spending. And that would be converted to Euros/Dollars also in case of IEC/IDC.

But it is quite possible that IEC/IDC Platinum CS is not aware about the actual situation.

Your information sounds much better than what I got. My information seems to be align with US requirement.

Also, they've issued too many in the UK, so no one is getting it at the moment (I wonder if this applies to IDC/IEC?). Hopefully invitations will be sent out in the next couple months ;)

According to Platinum CS, they would be screening the members during the March.

Lindsay Lohan at 18 has a Centurion card....which was posted on the net IIRC ....

How much money has she ??? :D
Has she a boyfrined ???? :D :D :D

Yup
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378639

Platinum CS told me that there is a requirement for 130,000GBP spending. And that would be converted to Euros/Dollars also in case of IEC/IDC.


Hopefully that is not the case, otherwise I am way off :( I think it is unrealistic to expect an alignment with the US, as it is much harder to get a balance like that in the UK (i.e. we can't pay our taxes, rent etc with American Express)...

March it is then :p

But it is quite possible that IEC/IDC Platinum CS is not aware about the actual situation.
I asked about the IEC one time, and the people at Centurion sent me an application form - I was only really thinking about getting a green one (since there's almost total overlap between IEC and UK Centurion perks) but they sent through the IEC/IDC Centurion application.

It does request bankers' references, and one of the questions for your banker is something like 'would you lend this individual €100,000 on an unsecured basis?'.

It does request bankers' references, and one of the questions for your banker is something like 'would you lend this individual €100,000 on an unsecured basis?'.

In case of International cards, they seem to be asking for bankers' references all the time and they actually also check them. Platinum application form although does not have any questions regarding if the banker would lend anything.

I provided them my banking contact and the next thing was that my bank called me and alerted that Amex is violating my privacy (Finnish laws do not allow banks to give such information Amex was asking to 3rd parties). In the end Amex was just happy with the confirmation from my bank that I am their customer and didn't want any detailed information about my relationship with the bank.

Also, after all the detailed background checking they told me that they did that by mistake. They didn't know that I was already Amex customer in Finland and most of the background checking was unnecessary. They didn't remember to ask about my previous cards in the phone and I didn't notice to tell about it to them while submitting all the required information.

Maybe detailed background checking for Centurion is only required when a new customer is applying the card - Amex already knows quite a much about the old customers so if they choose to invite an International Platinum card member to Centurion then I would guess that it would be just waste of time to perform a detailed background check.

Hopefully that is not the case, otherwise I am way off :( I think it is unrealistic to expect an alignment with the US, as it is much harder to get a balance like that in the UK (i.e. we can't pay our taxes, rent etc with American Express)...

March it is then :p

Yeah, agree. I certainly would be more than willing to pay the annual Centurion fee in exchange of the benefits. UK benefits are quite good and my travel patterns actually fit in those quite well.

We just have to wait ...

[QUOTE=miikka]Platinum CS told me that there is a requirement for 130,000GBP spending. And that would be converted to Euros/Dollars also in case of IEC/IDC.


I think in the UK they also look closely at what you are spending money on i.e. to determine if you are likely to use the services they flog - in particular are you spending money on travel and hospitality. When I went black 3 or 4 years ago my montly spend across various Amex cards was 3 - 5k per month on average, but I had a history of top hotels (paid for mostly by work) business class airfares (ditto) and lots of restaurant meals, some of them over £2000 (paid for by work). I think there are very few people out there who regularly do this and thats what presses the buttons at Amex. I'd also been a card holder since that late 80s which helps. if you don't travel alot (for buisness or pleasure) you won't get your moneys worth any way.

I know this is selfish but I'm glad numbers are restricted, as more cards equals less exclsuivity and diluted benefits, service. Service is very mixed (like anywhere it depends who you get on the day) and the benefits are slowly diluting. However, what is notable is that the fee in the UK hasn't gone up. As far as I'm concerned they can double the fee if they keep the exclusivity, keep service levels up and maintain or enhance the benefits

I know this is selfish but I'm glad numbers are restricted, as more cards equals less exclsuivity and diluted benefits, service. Service is very mixed (like anywhere it depends who you get on the day) and the benefits are slowly diluting. However, what is notable is that the fee in the UK hasn't gone up. As far as I'm concerned they can double the fee if they keep the exclusivity, keep service levels up and maintain or enhance the benefits

No, that is not selfish. Of course there should be always a restriction. Otherwise the card would be just another card with a different yearly fee. To keep Centurion as it is today, requires that it is also restricted.

I am very happy with my Platinum, but if they somehow decide to offer me a Centurion, I will accept it.

I am very happy with my Platinum, but if they somehow decide to offer me a Centurion, I will accept it.


Me too.
Only hope the decide to offer it me before my honey moon for having more benefits from SPG, air tickets and car rent.

:cool: