Hotel Deals - ICH Tokyo Bay 172JPY @ Orbitz [RATE GONE - Discussion Only]




camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:09 pm
I've got what I want in March 2006 on Orbitz....doesn't appear to cross to ICH or Travelocity.

Have fun!

Pat


bidhere23
Dec 27, 05, 8:15 pm
Not available........

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:18 pm
Still seeing it

Pat


camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:19 pm
Just booked a whole week in March....

YYZC2
Dec 27, 05, 8:19 pm
Dates?

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:20 pm
Be sure to click through the hotel page. I used targeted search. I have a reservation at ICH, as we're going to be in Tokyo anyway, and wanted to see if any of the TA's had better rates. One did ;)

Pat

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:21 pm
Dates?
Every weekend so far.... Friday/Sunday plus a whole week....doesn't appear to be any restriction...

izzik
Dec 27, 05, 8:23 pm
can you be a little more specific? nevermind, i see.

bidhere23
Dec 27, 05, 8:24 pm
I was wrong..... Need to click on the hotel rate to get the updated rate....

YYZC2
Dec 27, 05, 8:24 pm
Not pre-paid... probably not going to happen, but knowing Orbitz, they just might...

bidhere23
Dec 27, 05, 8:27 pm
Just booked for January....... See you guys there....

jef7
Dec 27, 05, 8:29 pm
Excellent find camachinist! Got my reservations too for March.

Many thanks. ^

joelfreak
Dec 27, 05, 8:31 pm
Got it, but in March. Now only if I could combine this with my Sept price mistake on Expedia to Osaka...

izzik
Dec 27, 05, 8:39 pm
even if orbitz is okay with it.. the hotel just might cancel all the reservations.. so be careful before booking any kind of permanent stuff like airfare.

stivstiv
Dec 27, 05, 8:39 pm
I'm on board for April. Thanks! :)

railroadtycoon
Dec 27, 05, 8:42 pm
I'd like to see how this plays out looking at the expedia fiasco.

coopervanning
Dec 27, 05, 8:43 pm
Just booked for Feb. Now if I can figure out how to get there from NRT I'm all set. Do you think I should book a backup at NRT just in case?

gooseman13
Dec 27, 05, 8:43 pm
Thanks Pat! 6 days in early March to coincide with the $400 airfare deal on UA.

bidhere23
Dec 27, 05, 8:44 pm
July bookings are advance purchase/prepaid so maybe it will be honored.........

mlbcard
Dec 27, 05, 8:48 pm
Has anyone found out how far this goes?

grayland
Dec 27, 05, 8:49 pm
I can't use it...but it is still available in February and probably other dates as well.

joelfreak
Dec 27, 05, 8:50 pm
Anyone figgure out what the last date of this sale is? I can get dates into May, but it seems no June...

Mateo4321
Dec 27, 05, 8:51 pm
:confused:

I can't figure out how to book this

bidhere23
Dec 27, 05, 8:52 pm
Nov 21st is the last day to stay......

Julest
Dec 27, 05, 8:53 pm
booked first week of april, here's hoping it is honered since I had planned to be there anyway and didn't have my hotel booked anymore because of the expedia fiasco

Thanks OP :)

Dynastar
Dec 27, 05, 8:54 pm
booked first week of april, here's hoping it is honered since I had planned to be there anyway and didn't have my hotel booked anymore because of the expedia fiasco

Ditto, here's to hope!

coopervanning
Dec 27, 05, 8:55 pm
just looked again and the price jumped up to 4000yen

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 8:55 pm
Update....I'm seeing dates into late May, but no pre-pay.

Also, concurrent bookings on Travelocity are returning a 2,000,000 JPY rate when clicked through. Yikes!

ICH site as normal. Haven't checked the other TA sites...

Pat

rci98
Dec 27, 05, 8:56 pm
Just booked first week in June. Thanks!

Mateo4321
Dec 27, 05, 8:58 pm
I keep seeing 23,000 Yen....

Mateo4321
Dec 27, 05, 8:59 pm
Got it

:)

dhammer53
Dec 27, 05, 9:02 pm
Thank you camachinist.

I saw the rate posted as $173 USD. Someone goofed when they entered it as Yen. :D

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 9:02 pm
For those not familiar with the hotel, some links below. I've found the Japanese sites to be much better and more complete than the English ones.

http://www.interconti-tokyo.com/ac/tariff.html

http://sheepcote.jp/rum/hotel/ict2-p01.htm

No dice on travel packages so far. Still looking...

Pat

grayland
Dec 27, 05, 9:05 pm
Actually...I did book it for one night in January. I am booked at the Narita Hilton the day before I leave Tokyo. Not sure what the location of the ICN is but can't lose much if I cancel.

What is the cancellation policy...I assume 1 night or 124 yen.

rci98
Dec 27, 05, 9:06 pm
It appears to be good through June 30th. Any dates after go to US dollars. Great find! Thank you!

BillScann
Dec 27, 05, 9:16 pm
I'm seeing JPY 23000, but after clicking through I see the JPY230 rate. As it won't work for me in conjunction with my 2 week Osaka Hilton trip in September 06, I'm going to give this one a pass: good luck everyone!

zxcvbs
Dec 27, 05, 9:17 pm
I'm seeing JPY 23000. Oh well, I scored 2 weeks at the Osaka Hilton and so shouldn't complain!

click through anyway, it'll change ;)

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 9:19 pm
Seeing early January at 133JPY...standard room

Ironically, Orbitz just sent me a fare alert for KIX and NRT....should I book? :p

rci98
Dec 27, 05, 9:22 pm
I would hold off just a while and see if they will honor.

unagi1
Dec 27, 05, 9:23 pm
Booked for a week in March. Will probably book some more for later.

iloveipods
Dec 27, 05, 9:31 pm
Booked for a week in March. Will probably book some more for later.
There won't be a later! In fact don't think it's coming up anymore!

flyingwish
Dec 27, 05, 9:32 pm
Just booked for Aug. 1-10 for two rooms. Got 146 JPY rate. It gave a confirmation number also. Tjis reservation coincides with my Hilton reservation for the same period. Lets see which one honors it. Please click on the high rate you see on the forst page as it will take you to the lower rate on thenext page. Good luck to eveyone still booking.

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 9:33 pm
I would hold off just a while and see if they will honor.
Yep, you're probably right. March Madness has taken hold, so it's hard to keep my finger off the purchase button :)

If I can cram some dates into a travel package, I'd go for it. So far, no dice.

BTW, Travelocity is still returning rates in the millions of yen for this property. No clue why that is. Kharma perhaps? :D

Pat

unagi1
Dec 27, 05, 9:33 pm
I booked a 2nd res for April cherry blossom time.

Julest
Dec 27, 05, 9:34 pm
There won't be a later! In fact don't think it's coming up anymore!
it is still alive I just checked more dates ..hth

rci98
Dec 27, 05, 9:35 pm
Does anyone know if we need to confirm a second time like the last deal?

Pointeater
Dec 27, 05, 9:39 pm
Does anyone know if we need to confirm a second time like the last deal?

I dont think its neccessary here. Hope this works out, picked up 4 nights to go with my Osaka trip, but this will allow for a cheaper flight now. ^

Molto Grazie OP.

grayland
Dec 27, 05, 9:44 pm
Actually...I did book it for one night in January. I am booked at the Narita Hilton the day before I leave Tokyo. Not sure what the location of the ICN is but can't lose much if I cancel.

What is the cancellation policy...I assume 1 night or 124 yen.


:rolleyes: I just checked the hotel site for Narita transfer...IHC is showing 25,000 yen for a taxi :eek: to NRT! That is about $210. USD.

Not too good a deal if you have to get to or from NRT. You pay $1.00 for the hotel and $210. for the Taxi.

I did email them to confirm that the transfer rate is correct.
I guess I should keep my $100. Narita Hilton reservation. I will save $111.00. :)

tropicalmalady
Dec 27, 05, 9:46 pm
Thanks to the original OP for the alert. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind the previous's poster logic. Why would reconfirmation be any less necessary? Is this because one is already on a weaker footing than the expedia case, where a charge was actually made to the card? Just wondering here ... Thanks again.



I dont think its neccessary here. Hope this works out, picked up 4 nights to go with my Osaka trip, but this will allow for a cheaper flight now. ^

Molto Grazie OP.

YYZC2
Dec 27, 05, 9:47 pm
:rolleyes: I just checked the hotel site for Narita transfer...IHC is showing 25,000 yen for a taxi :eek: to NRT! That is about $210. USD.

Not too good a deal if you have to get to or from NRT. You pay $1.00 for the hotel and $210. for the Taxi.

I did email them to confirm that the transfer rate is correct.
I guess I should keep my $100. Narita Hilton reservation. I will save $111.00. :)

Nobody takes a taxi to Narita. It's miles from anywhere you would want to go. There is very good bus and train service to many points in Tokyo starting from 1100 yen.

railroadtycoon
Dec 27, 05, 9:47 pm
Never take a taxi from central tokyo to NRT. There are limobuses, trains etc that will get you there for a cheaper amount of money. See tokyo forum.

tropicalmalady
Dec 27, 05, 9:49 pm
The train and subway system could get you there in comfort and speed for less than $40. Less than $15 if you take the slowest trains, even. Taxi from Narita isn't so wise. The Foreign Ministry stopped using them for arriving international researchers years ago ... just a waste of money. But that doesn't mean plebes like us can't get to the real city.

:rolleyes: I just checked the hotel site for Narita transfer...IHC is showing 25,000 yen for a taxi :eek: to NRT! That is about $210. USD.

Not too good a deal if you have to get to or from NRT. You pay $1.00 for the hotel and $210. for the Taxi.

I did email them to confirm that the transfer rate is correct.
I guess I should keep my $100. Narita Hilton reservation. I will save $111.00. :)
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jetcity405
Dec 27, 05, 9:52 pm
working ok on orbitz but dead on expedia (??) no more
No rooms available on the selected dates:

anyone else have trouble at expedia?

Spiff
Dec 27, 05, 9:56 pm
Worked for me in March. Thanks, camachinist! :)

tfjim
Dec 27, 05, 9:59 pm
Just booked for Aug. 1-10 for two rooms. Got 146 JPY rate. ...... Please click on the high rate you see on the forst page as it will take you to the lower rate on the next page..

This is odd. When I click through using just a double room I get $146.25 USD guaranteed rate. But if I change to two rooms and 6 people staying I get the 146 JPY rate.

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 10:04 pm
I just checked the hotel site for Narita transfer...IHC is showing 25,000 yen for a taxi to NRT! That is about $210. USD.

Taxi's in Tokyo are horrifically expensive. Most folks use the subway or trains. IIRC, the Takeshiba rail station is a couple minute walk from the property. Do a search on Google for more information. Also, some info on this property below:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377825&page=2&pp=15

izzik
Dec 27, 05, 10:05 pm
I don't think anyone would trust Expedia for booking this rate....

jetcity405
Dec 27, 05, 10:10 pm
ich.com is quoting the non-error rate. still nothing with expedia

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 10:15 pm
ICH is quoting a rate consistent with what I booked there this morning. Travelocity is still returning a rate in the millions of yen (clicked through). I'm still seeing dates within the parameters previously mentioned (non-prepay) in the 133-172JPY range. There were never rooms available on Expedia, even earlier today. I have no idea how long this rate was in place. One knows when they know :)

This is the only place I posted it.

Pat

jim5518
Dec 27, 05, 10:20 pm
Its still going just booked 4 nights in may

MrHalliday
Dec 27, 05, 10:29 pm
Yep, still working, I have 2 nights in march

jetcity405
Dec 27, 05, 10:32 pm
got it on orb...would love to give expedia a try on this one.......

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 10:33 pm
Just saw luxury escapes for Memorial Day weekend for 374JPY per night.

So far, no fare alerts and it doesn't appear any FT'ers or lurkers have posted it on FW.

FWIW, this appears to be a T/A rate, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Very different than the Marriott Shanghai deal....

OK, on to the next one ;)

Pat

jim5518
Dec 27, 05, 10:36 pm
Orbitz accepted the credit card might have a chance

yevlesh2
Dec 27, 05, 10:40 pm
Big thanks for posting this deal! Made a booking for January and for June.

Also works on CheapTickets.com , which is powered by Orbitz.

An interesting thing is that Cheaptickets.com charges a non refundable $5 fee to your credit card the minute you book, so that might increase our chances ;)

SFO_Runner
Dec 27, 05, 10:41 pm
Booked for Cherry Blossom season. ^

FlyingToFly
Dec 27, 05, 10:44 pm
FWIW, this appears to be a T/A rate, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Very different than the Marriott Shanghai deal....

What do you mean by T/A rate?

SFO_Runner
Dec 27, 05, 10:45 pm
What do you mean by T/A rate?

GUARANTEE REQUIRED GUARANTEE METHOD: ACCEPTED CREDIT CARDS PRE-APRVD ARC-IATA NBR

T/A = Travel Agent

yevlesh2
Dec 27, 05, 10:45 pm
When is the cherry blossom season?

Booked for Cherry Blossom season. ^

SFO_Runner
Dec 27, 05, 10:48 pm
When is the cherry blossom season?

Typically, the last week of March.

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 10:49 pm
When is the cherry blossom season?
Early April...

BTW, this is what I get on Travelocity...

Review the price
Room: 1 King Superior River View Includes View Of Downtown Sumida| River Equipped With 100 Mbps High Speed Internet Access Vpn (2 Adults)

Nightly rates are based upon 2 people in the room.
Fri, May 26 JPY2600000
Sat, May 27 JPY2600000
Sun, May 28 JPY2600000
Mon, May 29 JPY2600000
Tue, May 30 JPY2600000

Sum of nightly rates: JPY13000000

Total Before Taxes: JPY13000000
Taxes and cancellation penalty information is available in the hotel policies below.
You will not be charged by Travelocity when you complete your reservation.


Also, be aware the rates being booked, global advantage and luxury escapes have cancellation fees ;)

Thanks for the tip on the other site....I've got the rest of our Japan trip booked on Expedia, save for Tokyo. Just want to spread the cheer around :)

Pat

yevlesh2
Dec 27, 05, 10:49 pm
Excellent! One of my 3 bookings is for 3/21-3/26 , so should catch it :)



Typically, the last week of March.

yorweb
Dec 27, 05, 10:53 pm
Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee

Every hotel reservation booked through an InterContinental Hotels Group web site is guaranteed to have the lowest rate publicly available on the internet or IHG will match a lower rate under the following conditions:

If you find a rate on a competing web site that is lower than the lowest rate shown on the 'Best Available' search of InterContinental Hotels Group web site, InterContinental Hotels Group will honor that rate for the nights for which the lower rate was found, plus give you an additional 10% discount off the lower rate found upon its verification by InterContinental Hotels Group.

For the purpose of the Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee, a competing web site is defined as a web site that is not owned by InterContinental Hotels Group.
Rooms on the other web site must be publicly available, viewable and bookable on the Internet at the time of verification.

Lower rate found must be for the same hotel and same type of accommodations, and for the same dates.:D

... BTW.. I am joking

dlflyer2
Dec 27, 05, 10:56 pm
I booked a room for early January and got the 124jpy rate, went to Priority Club and viewed the rate calendar and it showed 14500jpy which would convert to approx 124usd.

I'll hold the reservation as I also have a room at the Narita Hilton for the same night which is cancellable until 6pm. I want to see whether ICH or Orbitz contacts me.

jetcity405
Dec 27, 05, 10:58 pm
and owned by cendant, who also owns orbitz.....

Big thanks for posting this deal! Made a booking for January and for June.

Also works on CheapTickets.com , which is powered by Orbitz.

An interesting thing is that Cheaptickets.com charges a non refundable $5 fee to your credit card the minute you book, so that might increase our chances ;)

FlyingToFly
Dec 27, 05, 11:06 pm
Is it just me, or are the prices going up?

I booked a few days in March, went back with the same dates to see if the rate was still up, and was quoted 374 JPY instead of 172 JPY.

Julest
Dec 27, 05, 11:10 pm
Is it just me, or are the prices going up?

I booked a few days in March, went back with the same dates to see if the rate was still up, and was quoted 374 JPY instead of 172 JPY.
The 374 is a better buy because it includes breakfast

Luxury Escapes

DESCRIPTION:
Relax in luxury. Includes breakfast for up to two adults. Late check out 4 pm upon availability. Cancel penalty plus applicable taxes will be charged to your credit card if reservation is cancelled.

iloveipods
Dec 27, 05, 11:10 pm
Is it just me, or are the prices going up?

I booked a few days in March, went back with the same dates to see if the rate was still up, and was quoted 374 JPY instead of 172 JPY.

You're living it up with the "luxury escapes" package ;)

FlyingToFly
Dec 27, 05, 11:18 pm
Hm, what happens if I'd already made a simple "Global Advantage" booking? Do I put myself in a disadvantaged position if I make another booking for the same dates, but for a "Luxury Escapes" package instead?

unagi1
Dec 27, 05, 11:19 pm
FWIW, this appears to be a T/A rate, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

I'm not so sure. The way I read it, it seemed like the T/A card was just one of the methods to guarantee the reservation.

Julest
Dec 27, 05, 11:21 pm
Hm, what happens if I'd already made a simple "Global Advantage" booking? Do I put myself in a disadvantaged position if I make another booking for the same dates, but for a "Luxury Escapes" package instead?

If the rate is honered, it would just mean two rooms in your name, for the small amount of money spent I would go for it, since breakfast for two is worth the extra 372 in itself :D

rajvar
Dec 27, 05, 11:24 pm
if you guys pull up your conf. numbers on viewtrip.... I've got a few nights in June, luxury escapes.... it says 43,500JPY per night estimated hotel rate? I booked when it was 374jpy on orbitz.... weird stuff

yevlesh2
Dec 27, 05, 11:28 pm
Woah, that's not cool! I booked 374 as well and it's also showing
JPY 43,500 / night !

if you guys pull up your conf. numbers on viewtrip.... I've got a few nights in June, luxury escapes.... it says 43,500JPY per night estimated hotel rate? I booked when it was 374jpy on orbitz.... weird stuff

imm2b
Dec 27, 05, 11:30 pm
I booked 6 nights in February 13-19, for 172 Y/night. The Deluxe rooms are no longer available for my dates. I would love to get the Deluxe room. Hopefully Orbitz will not pull an Expedia!!!

iloveipods
Dec 27, 05, 11:38 pm
Anybody know the difference between
2 SGL BDS SUPERIOR WITH VIEW

and

STANDARD ROOM

for the luxury rates? As in does the latter have a view?

camachinist
Dec 27, 05, 11:45 pm
I'm not so sure. The way I read it, it seemed like the T/A card was just one of the methods to guarantee the reservation.

My apologies...what I meant was that the rate issue appears to be a T/A issue, not a hotel issue, as evidenced by the lack of similar special rates elsewhere.

Some other observations:

I'm seeing rates as little as 111JPY now. I'm also seeing the hotel come up both with a bookable rate and with "no rooms available" on the same page.

Travelocity still has a wonky rate, like they forgot to insert a decimal in the yen like for a USD rate.

I'm seeing luxury escapes and global advantage rates, so it appears the special rate isn't for only one booking class. Perhaps it rolls to another class when one is sold out, retaining the same rate formula.

Pat

iloveipods
Dec 27, 05, 11:50 pm
Not that I was hoping for it, but no way is this sneaking under the radar then. This will have to be taken up with orbitz, which I highly doubt will be easy to get them to honor since it is obviously a problem between their systems and the reservation system. They're going to have to pony up the cash (or their insurance will?). Will be interesting how this will pan out.

My apologies...what I meant was that the rate issue appears to be a T/A issue, not a hotel issue, as evidenced by the lack of similar special rates elsewhere.

Some other observations:

I'm seeing rates as little as 111JPY now. I'm also seeing the hotel come up both with a bookable rate and with "no rooms available" on the same page.

Travelocity still has a wonky rate, like they forgot to insert a decimal in the yen like for a USD rate.

I'm seeing luxury escapes and global advantage rates, so it appears the special rate isn't for only one booking class. Perhaps it rolls to another class when one is sold out, retaining the same rate formula.

Pat

iloveipods
Dec 27, 05, 11:56 pm
Forgot to say nice find camachinist!!!

jef7
Dec 28, 05, 12:01 am
Pulling my reservations with Intercontinental website shows all confirmed, but not with the Orbitz rate (showing ~ 23,000 yen/night).

Hmmm, indeed let the speculations begin on how Orbitz will approach these reservations ;) .

nomad1974
Dec 28, 05, 12:04 am
Sounds great, but I cannot find it! Can you see if it's still available? Need 2 weekends in March (17-19 and/or 24-26). Could you please please tell us how you found it? I am going through Orbitz -> Hotels etc but showing Y23000

zabes64
Dec 28, 05, 12:05 am
Booked April 27-30, 2006.. figured for 516 Yen I can go for my birthday!

jef7
Dec 28, 05, 12:15 am
Sounds great, but I cannot find it! Can you see if it's still available? Need 2 weekends in March (17-19 and/or 24-26). Could you please please tell us how you found it? I am going through Orbitz -> Hotels etc but showing Y23000

It's still available. Just click on the 23,000 rate anyways and it should re-price.

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 12:15 am
Pulling my reservations with Intercontinental website shows all confirmed, but not with the Orbitz rate (showing ~ 23,000 yen/night).

Hmmm, indeed let the speculations begin on how Orbitz will approach these reservations ;) .
This gets more weird. When I try to use my confirmation code to access my itinerary, I get "You must be logged in for Reward Night reservations". It doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or not (I'm AMB with ICH).

The Orbitz confirmations look nothing like ICH confirmations; at least mine don't.

Julest
Dec 28, 05, 12:17 am
sticker shock.. I just pulled up my reservations on ichotelgroup.com and my week =
¥43,500 JPY per night (1 room(s)
Total Hotel Service Charges † ¥30,450 JPY
Total Tax † ¥15,225 JPY
Estimated Total Price †: ¥350,175 JPY
that is equal to $2,987.53 USD

jef7
Dec 28, 05, 12:18 am
This gets more weird. When I try to use my confirmation code to access my itinerary, I get "You must be logged in for Reward Night reservations". It doesn't matter whether I'm logged in or not (I'm AMB with ICH).

The Orbitz confirmations look nothing like ICH confirmations; at least mine don't.

I know camachinist. Try to view your reservation through viewtrip as noted earlier, and it will provide another confirmation number that should allow you to view your reservations on the Intercontinental page.

rajvar
Dec 28, 05, 12:23 am
are you guys adding your PC number on? I have a feeling I shouldn't *touch* the reservation.... I don't want to click any buttons saying "confirm those changes".... what do you think?

I know camachinist. Try to view your reservation through viewtrip as noted earlier, and it will provide another confirmation number that should allow you to view your reservations on the Intercontinental page.

nomad1974
Dec 28, 05, 12:38 am
It's still available. Just click on the 23,000 rate anyways and it should re-price.

Found. Booked. Done. Waiting for it to be honoured :)

THAAANKS to the OP and everybody else at FT :)

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 12:43 am
I know camachinist. Try to view your reservation through viewtrip as noted earlier, and it will provide another confirmation number that should allow you to view your reservations on the Intercontinental page.
Checked the Orbitz page on both Netscape and Safari. The confirmation code is the same and matches the one received in e-mail. I could find no evidence of another hotel confirmation number. I'm familiar with this as I was in on the Hilton and Marriott deals. Perhaps my Macintosh browser is not seeing everything...

I did not add my PC number to my reservations..... oops :(

Pat

imm2b
Dec 28, 05, 12:49 am
Checked the Orbitz page on both Netscape and Safari. The confirmation code is the same and matches the one received in e-mail. I could find no evidence of another hotel confirmation number. I'm familiar with this as I was in on the Hilton and Marriott deals. Perhaps my Macintosh browser is not seeing everything...

I did not add my PC number to my reservations..... oops :(

Pat

I don't think it's your browser, because I used both IE & Firefox and it's the same for me too. The number XXXXXX (6 digits) on Orbitz/Cheaptickets and the email confirmation are the same as well.

Thanks for posting. Hopefully, Orbitz will honor this deal.

anamaniac
Dec 28, 05, 12:53 am
Booked... I have my doubts on Orbitz honoring this, but its worth a shot.

Thanks OP and everyone else.

boxweaver
Dec 28, 05, 1:07 am
I think you may need to add your PC number to your Orbitz profile prior to making the reservation if you want to see the ICH res number.

narossa
Dec 28, 05, 1:10 am
Anybody has luck finding Dates?

looks like they took it off...
every Date I tried it says No rooms available

SAT Lawyer
Dec 28, 05, 1:10 am
Well done, camachinist.

I have my doubts whether Orbitz will be accommodating, but thanks anyway.

^

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 1:23 am
I think you may need to add your PC number to your Orbitz profile prior to making the reservation if you want to see the ICH res number.
Yes, this is correct. It appears that the rate on the ICH site is what they think it should be. Of course, other's perceptions may differ ;)

Still wide open within the booking parameters discussed....

Pat

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 1:56 am
Booking it - but as orbitz is just reserving and not charging card - best luck on actually getting the rate to be honored..

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:01 am
Look like this is a general conversion error on orbitz side... china IC hotels are also affected

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 2:02 am
Booked it just in case. I don´t believe this to work, but what do I have to lose? Nothing if they inform me before I start making any other plans.

Anyone tried to contact IC-hotels for their best rate guarantee? ;)

"Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee

Every hotel reservation booked through an Intercontinental Hotels Group web site is guaranteed to have the lowest rate publicly available on the internet or IHG will match a lower rate under the following conditions:

If you find a rate on a competing web site that is lower than the lowest rate shown on the 'Best Available' search of InterContinental Hotels Group web site, InterContinental Hotels Group will honor that rate for the nights for which the lower rate was found, plus give you an additional 10% discount off the lower rate found upon its verification by InterContinental Hotels Group.

For the purpose of the Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee, a competing web site is defined as a web site that is not owned by InterContinental Hotels Group.

Rooms on the other web site must be publicly available, viewable and immediately bookable on the Internet at the time of verification.

Lower rate found must be for the same hotel and same type of accommodations, and for the same dates.

To use this Guarantee, you must advise InterContinental Hotels Group within 24 hours of booking your room by calling the applicable telephone number or by filling out the online Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee Form with your booking details. See the Terms and Conditions and an example of how the Guarantee works.

An example of how the Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee works:

Step 1: View the Terms & Conditions and then book a one night's stay at the lowest available rate on the ‘Best Available’ search for a hotel in Atlanta, GA, (USA) on an InterContinental Hotels Group web site for a rate of $100.00.

Step 2: Within 24 hours, you find a rate of $90.00 through another web site for the same hotel, same night and same room type (same number and type of bed(s).

Step 3: Contact InterContinental Hotels Group to claim the Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee.

Step 4: Assuming your InterContinental Hotels Group web site booking is confirmed and the lower rate is available and immediately bookable via a competing web site, the Guest Relations team will modify your room rate to $81 to uphold our Lowest Internet Rate Guarantee policy! That's 10% better than the lower rate you reported.

Step 5: Stay, content in the knowledge that you have booked the lowest Internet rate available for your room. "

lex
Dec 28, 05, 2:04 am
wasnt able to book at orbitz, weird errors and page hanging. Was able to book at cheaptickets.com

vander555
Dec 28, 05, 2:04 am
Pitty for us Orbitz/Cheap Tickets won't accept phone numbers or postal adress' for Australians. :( Will have to make do with my current booking.

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:05 am
wasnt able to book at orbitz, weird errors and page hanging. Was able to book at cheaptickets.com

considering cheaptickets charges a $5 fee, does it make it more arguable?

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 2:23 am
considering cheaptickets charges a $5 fee, does it make it more arguable?
Also, remember ICH will have to cancel all the reservations manually, as the rates are all loaded with cancellation charges, if they or Orbitz decide not to honor the rate. If nothing else, it'll make for interesting conversation with the hotel manager when I'm there in March.

iloveipods, I was just off to look at some other IC's I wanted to stay at on the trip. Looks like you beat me to it ;)

BTW, ICH is based in the UK, IIRC. This special rate is likely going to be gone soon. Maybe they're taking an extended Christmas holiday :D

Pat

csakamoto
Dec 28, 05, 2:24 am
got it from 2/12-2/16 (conference i have to be at) and from 5/26-5/28 (bday weekend!) at the cheap rate.

I was one of the lucky ones to stay at the Tokyo Hilton on their $2 fare.

This is cool :D

edited to add: how can you tell which one has breakfast?

boxweaver
Dec 28, 05, 2:27 am
Look like this is a general conversion error on orbitz side... china IC hotels are also affected

Which hotel and which dates? I only saw $300 rooms for the IC HK.

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:32 am
Which hotel and which dates? I only saw $300 rooms for the IC HK.

Most in china, specifically PVG and PEK... or any place you can force CNY pricing. Only seems to work for CP or IC hotels.

csakamoto
Dec 28, 05, 2:38 am
Most in china, specifically PVG and PEK... or any place you can force CNY pricing. Only seems to work for CP or IC hotels.

Shenzen is showing at CNY142 or USD18/night. not bad.

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 2:42 am
Most in china, specifically PVG and PEK... or any place you can force CNY pricing. Only seems to work for CP or IC hotels.

Seems to work for Crowne Plaza Shanghai. Rate is about 13 US dollars for random dates I tried. In Beijing they price in US dollars. So, not working yet. I´ll keep trying.

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 2:42 am
Most in china, specifically PVG and PEK... or any place you can force CNY pricing. Only seems to work for CP or IC hotels.
You're absolutely right....what a mess...

I'm in Shanghai seeing a.... fully pre-paid rate of 123 CNY /nt for the Crowne Plaza. Anyone?

Ipods, since you found the wider issue, perhaps this would be a good thread for you to start. Spread the love :D

Pat

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:42 am
Seems to work for Crowne Plaza Shanghai. Rate is about 13 US dollars for random dates I tried. In Beijing they price in US dollars. So, not working yet. I´ll keep trying.

and I was just planning on PMing you about this =)

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:43 am
You're absolutely right....what a mess...

I'm in Shanghai seeing a.... fully pre-paid rate of 123 CNY /nt for the Crowne Plaza. Anyone?

Ipods, since you found the wider issue, perhaps this would be a good thread for you to start. Spread the love :D

Pat

or for you to change the title to cheap hotels in asia :)

Also, sadly I doubt orbitz will honor this. Since it's not a prepaid reservation, and it's their fault not the hotels :(

djohannw
Dec 28, 05, 2:48 am
Seems Orbitz has completely put their site to an halt as the only thing I get is:

" We're sorry. An error has occurred. You can try one of two things to resolve this:
Use your browser's back button until you get back to a regular page, or go back to Orbitz's home page and try again "

Greetings - Dirk

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 2:48 am
or for you to change the title to cheap hotels in asia :)

Also, sadly I doubt orbitz will honor this. Since it's not a prepaid reservation, and it's their fault not the hotels :(

The rate in Shanghai is a fully pre-paid reservation. I still doubt that it will work.

p.s. Thank you for thinking about mailing me. ^

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 2:53 am
The rate in Shanghai is a fully pre-paid reservation. I still doubt that it will work.

p.s. Thank you for thinking about mailing me. ^

Depends on the rate you chose, the higher rates w/club access and breakfast are charged later IIRC. I have way too many reservations to keep track of right now and hopefully won't get 20 calls from orbitz about this.

Now, I guess it is better to do the pre-paid option as money will trade hands, no?

And you're welcome ^

stockmanjr
Dec 28, 05, 3:09 am
I grabed one night in jan and a few nights in aug for myself..Also grabed a few nights in jan for a friend of mine...Thanks OP...We shall see how this one plays out...
-howie

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 3:10 am
OMG....even the IC's with dollar rates go upside down if there's any local currency rates in the list......

I'm off to ROC and SE Asia to see what I can drum up...

I think this could be the biggest deal that I've ever seen, even if it doesn't pan out. It's a mess to end all messes...

Pat

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 3:13 am
I´ve heard before that they had fast internet-connections in Japan, but still makes me wonder what do they need all that capacity?

Room description
LUXURY ESCAPES ... INCLUDES 100 MBPS HIGH SPEED ...

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 3:17 am
OMG....even the IC's with dollar rates go upside down if there's any local currency rates in the list......

I'm off to ROC and SE Asia to see what I can drum up...

I think this could be the biggest deal that I've ever seen, even if it doesn't pan out. It's a mess to end all messes...

Pat

ROC? FYI I haven't been able to find anything out of SE asia

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 3:18 am
ROC= Taiwan

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 3:21 am
ROC= Taiwan

ah, thanks, was just to look up the airport code, for some reason It made me think of RIC, too early here on the east coast.

iloveipods
Dec 28, 05, 3:27 am
Goodnight to all and happy hunting! We will see how this will pan out. Though I hope people aren't going to get too demanding in this thread as I think we're playing against the odds. Nonetheless there is hope! ;)

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 3:36 am
ROC= Taiwan
Yup....Taipei too....Seeing the Crowne Plaza for 126TWD. Or, a junior suite for 192TWD

Hell, I'll sleep later today :D

Pat

schofs
Dec 28, 05, 3:37 am
Good morning all! Tokyo still available at about 300JPY a night...

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 3:45 am
Heh! Heeere's Singapore.... :)

Got the Intercontinental for a 186 SGD for a club room that should go for 186 USD, for a savings of about 75.00/nt on a flex room. That's a good one for the low rate guarantee.

You guys shouldn't have gone to bed ;)

The average daily rate of this reservation has changed since you made your selection. It is now 186.51 SGD.
Average nightly rate Room description
96.05 USD Low Price Guarantee
Spacious victorian inspired deluxe room
120.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Charming signature shophouse room
126.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Studio suite
Show more rates
Average nightly rate Room description
96.05 USD Low Price Guarantee
Spacious victorian inspired deluxe room
120.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Charming signature shophouse room
126.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Studio suite
138.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Stylish club intercontinental room
Show all rates
Average nightly rate Room description
96.05 USD Low Price Guarantee
Spacious victorian inspired deluxe room
120.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Spacious victorian inspired deluxe room
120.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Charming signature shophouse room
126.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Studio suite
138.06 USD Low Price Guarantee
Stylish club intercontinental room
144.07 USD Low Price Guarantee
Spacious victorian inspired deluxe room
144.07 USD Low Price Guarantee
Charming signature shophouse room
150.07 USD Low Price Guarantee
Studio suite
162.07 USD Low Price Guarantee
Stylish club intercontinental room
168.08 USD Low Price Guarantee
Charming signature shophouse room
174.08 USD Low Price Guarantee
Studio suite
186.08 USD Low Price Guarantee
Stylish club intercontinental room
186.48 SGDADVANCE PURCHASE NO REFUNDS SPACIOUS VICTORIAN...
209.79 SGDLUXURY WEEKENDS SPACIOUS VICTORIAN INSPIRED DELUXE...
233.10 SGDGLOBAL ADVANTAGE CANCEL FEE APPLIES SPACIOUS...
233.10 SGDADVANCE PURCHASE NO REFUNDS CHARMING SIGNATURE...
256.41 SGDLUXURY WEEKENDS CHARMING SIGNATURE SHOPHOUSE ROOM...
268.07 SGDADVANCE PURCHASE NO REFUNDS STYLISH CLUB...
279.72 SGDGLOBAL ADVANTAGE CANCEL FEE APPLIES CHARMING...
279.72 SGDBEST FLEXIBLE RATE SPACIOUS VICTORIAN INSPIRED...
291.38 SGDLUXURY WEEKENDS STYLISH CLUB INTERCONTINENTAL ROOM...
314.69 SGDGLOBAL ADVANTAGE CANCEL FEE APPLIES STYLISH CLUB...
326.34 SGDBEST FLEXIBLE RATE CHARMING SIGNATURE SHOPHOUSE...
186.51 SGDBEST FLEXIBLE RATE STYLISH CLUB INTERCONTINENTAL...
STYLISH CLUB INTERCONTINENTAL ROOM


Pat

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 3:47 am
What day did you check the taipei booking at -don't see it coming up in TPE

schofs
Dec 28, 05, 3:52 am
Heh! Heeere's Singapore.... :)

Got the Intercontinental for a 186 SGD for a club room that should go for 186 USD, for a savings of about 75.00/nt on a flex room. That's a good one for the low rate guarantee.

You guys shouldn't have gone to bed ;)

Pat
Hmmm - I'm not getting that - looking in March (for when I [shock horror] am actually in Singapore!) and am only getting USD prices for the IC Singapore

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 3:55 am
Hmmm - I'm not getting that - looking in March (for when I [shock horror] am actually in Singapore!) and am only getting USD prices for the IC Singapore
Keep clicking on the show more rates button, then show all rates, then local currency rates....

Gonna be an interesting morning for some folks...

schofs
Dec 28, 05, 4:07 am
Keep clicking on the show more rates button, then show all rates, then local currency rates....

Gonna be an interesting morning for some folks...
OK.... getting the rates now - so about 65UKP/night for best flexible club room... not bad

what's the difference between the club room and the signiture shophouse room? Shame it's not showing suites...

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 4:09 am
erm, not that I want to put a dampener on this - but I've got now in my IC current res's - 3 weeks worth of bookings which say I have to pay £150-odd a night, and any cancellations will incur some hefty charges.

Suppose it's time to find out how much hit my amex for the CP Shanghai - according to IC was about £575. Seems like, so far, while it may have been a display error at one stage of the booking process, everything else has gone thorugh at full rate.

Nippon_UK
Dec 28, 05, 4:11 am
Hi guys,

Am in Tokyo for my annual "home leave" til Jan. 6.
I have just booked one room for Jan 3 - 4th for 111JPY.

Will let you know how it goes!!!

Nippon_UK

Strawb
Dec 28, 05, 4:14 am
For the IC Singapore, I'm getting a rate of SG$96.26 per night which works out half that, though it's only a deluxe. And the same room is also available for US$96.05. Which shall I choose? :D

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 4:16 am
My thanks to iloveipods. Got Crowne Plaza Shanghai. :)

PJK
Dec 28, 05, 4:21 am
For the IC Singapore, I'm getting a rate of SG$96.26 per night which works out half that, though it's only a deluxe. And the same room is also available for US$96.05. Which shall I choose? :D
96.05 < 96.26

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 4:22 am
96.05 < 96.26

Great! :D

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 4:22 am
erm, not that I want to put a dampener on this - but I've got now in my IC current res's - 3 weeks worth of bookings which say I have to pay £150-odd a night, and any cancellations will incur some hefty charges.

Suppose it's time to find out how much hit my amex for the CP Shanghai - according to IC was about £575. Seems like, so far, while it may have been a display error at one stage of the booking process, everything else has gone thorugh at full rate.
No worries... I suspect if things go south, all charges will be waived and deposits returned, just like with the dishonored Expedia reservations. It's interesting how kharma works, eh? ;)

I'm helping it along; ironic that what led me to this was looking for bookings to replace the ones Expedia dishonored. Heh!

Pat

camachinist
Dec 28, 05, 4:25 am
The Singapore deal is more for the club rooms and the price guarantee. The exchange rate isn't favorable enough.....

Pat

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 4:49 am
I find it best myself to assume the worst-case scenario, to avoid any high expectations unrealised...sadly Amex, after waiting 30 mins, report no unbilled charges, or could have confirmed what we're being billed for the CP Shanghai prepaid rate anyways.

maclover
Dec 28, 05, 4:51 am
I find it best myself to assume the worst-case scenario, to avoid any high expectations unrealised...sadly Amex, after waiting 30 mins, report no unbilled charges, or could have confirmed what we're being billed for the CP Shanghai prepaid rate anyways.

Did you book the entire year as for the Hilton? :P
maclover

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 4:52 am
Yea, but you have IC credentials, so maybe they will at least give us some points or credits for another booking ;)

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 5:03 am
Just made myself a one night reservation -- I'll be in Tokyo for the Expedia rate glitch, and I figure I may want to stay here during that trip and go to Tokyo Disney :D

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:10 am
Interesting. My one-night booking at one property was done as 14 DAY ADV PURCHASE FULL PREPAYMENT NO REFUND STANDARD ROOM
STANDARD ROOM at 99.62 CNY . Now, when I go to the ichotelsgroup.com website, I see the following:

14 Day Advance Purchase Rate Change to Group Booking
Rate Description: Special Savings! Reservations are final and require full prepayment for the entire stay. Credit card is charged between time of booking and day of arrival. No refunds if cancelled or changed.
Check-in Time: 02:00 PM
Check-out Time: 12:00 PM
Rate Rules: ADVANCE PURCHASE REQUIRED
MUST PURCHASE AT LEAST 14 DAYS IN ADVANCE

CNY804.0 CNY
per night (1 room(s))
Total Hotel Service Charges † CNY120.6 CNY

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Estimated Total Price †: CNY924.6 CNY

Cancellation: Canceling your reservation or failing to show will result in a charge for the entire stay per room to your credit card. Taxes may apply.


It appears to be some kind of "Group Booking"? :confused:

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:13 am
Did you book the entire year as for the Hilton? :P
maclover

I think you have me confused with Hans Dampf.

I just called up an Orbitz C.S. person, enquiring about one of my bookings - the CP Shanghai one as it said prepaid.

As far as she is concerned, and Orbitz - the booking says $872 USD & that's what has been passed onto the hotel, they only collect $5 trans. fee. She said it says CNY next to the U.S. figure, but doesn't mean anything, as far as they care. IC are now at will to charge me the $872 whenever feel like, possibly at check-in. I didn't kick up a fuss, just thanked her, so as not to raise any alarm bells while 'fare not gone' - although it may never have been there.

As for my IC Tokyo res's I don't even want to think about it what they intend to charge me for.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:18 am
I think you have me confused with Hans Dampf.

I just called up an Orbitz C.S. person, enquiring about one of my bookings - the CP Shanghai one as it said prepaid.

As far as she is concerned, and Orbitz - the booking says $872 USD & that's what has been passed onto the hotel, they only collect $5 trans. fee. She said it says CNY next to the U.S. figure, but doesn't mean anything, as far as they care. IC are now at will to charge me the $872 whenever feel like, possibly at check-in. I didn't kick up a fuss, just thanked her, so as not to raise any alarm bells while 'fare not gone' - although it may never have been there.

As for my IC Tokyo res's I don't even want to think about it what they intend to charge me for.

If my any measure you are talking about the Crowne Plaza Shanghai, it might not be as bad as the Orbitz CSR said. It seems to be coming across IC's systems as some kind of non-refundable group booking. Or is that something that happens whenever booking through Orbitz and for many bookings made via Travelocity and Expedia?

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:21 am
If my any measure you are talking about the Crowne Plaza Shanghai, it might not be as bad as the Orbitz CSR said. It seems to be coming across IC's systems as some kind of non-refundable group booking. Or is that something that happens whenever booking through Orbitz and for many bookings made via Travelocity and Expedia?

You've lost me there - all I know is that while my email confirm says $862CNY, Orbitz have it as $862 & so does IC now - shows in my current res's. That plus I owe 400,000 yen for each of my two IC Tokyo one's. & that it's case shut as far as they are concerned at the mo....none of this 'oooh, it's possibly a mistake, let us get back to you with an answer' stuff we're used to.

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 5:27 am
Just wait till the sharks get wind of it if they try to bill you 400,000 yen...

You've lost me there - all I know is that while my email confirm says $862CNY, Orbitz have it as $862 & so does IC now - shows in my current res's. That plus I owe 400,000 yen for each of my two IC Tokyo one's. & that it's case shut as far as they are concerned at the mo....none of this 'oooh, it's possibly a mistake, let us get back to you with an answer' stuff we're used to.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:29 am
You've lost me there - all I know is that while my email confirm says $862CNY, Orbitz have it as $862 & so does IC now - shows in my current res's. That plus I owe 400,000 yen for each of my two IC Tokyo one's. & that it's case shut as far as they are concerned at the mo....none of this 'oooh, it's possibly a mistake, let us get back to you with an answer' stuff we're used to.

Orbitz CSR is quoting me back in CNY at the rate at the time of booking and then even being so kind as to inform me of the current rate in USD given the current exchange rate. So 99.62 CNY per night it is ... but I am now on hold on the phone.

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:33 am
Orbitz CSR is quoting me back in CNY at the rate at the time of booking and then even being so kind as to inform me of the current rate in USD given the current exchange rate. So 99.62 CNY per night it is ... but I am now on hold on the phone.

I'm sure there are some CSR's who will say it's CNY, as it has that displayed too, but it was passed on as the USD amount, hence why you're seeing the higher rate in your IC res's.

What has me worried, is i've never had the magic touch with these agencies, not being an Expedia VIP, or lawyer etc. & not been able to move mountains, or tweak supervisors up the right way - hence I can see others here getting what they want, but me being stuck with $7,000 of res's - or least not getting a deal that others do.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:33 am
The Orbitz CSR said I'm good to go at 99.62 CNY which converts to c. 12.50 USD at the current exchange rates but that the exchange rate is subject to change.

I've got record of my phone call. :)

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:36 am
The Orbitz CSR said I'm good to go at 99.62 CNY which converts to c. 12.50 USD at the current exchange rates but that the exchange rate is subject to change.

I've got record of my phone call. :)

So presumably you're going to let the CP charge you the full rate, & then dispute it afterwards with Orbitz? Seems the only way, and a lot of hassle.

I can't see IC getting up to the same kind of tricks, or low-down approach as Expedia, by allowing only January res's to count, or those who have re-confirmed.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:37 am
I'm sure there are some CSR's who will say it's CNY, as it has that displayed too, but it was passed on as the USD amount, hence why you're seeing the higher rate in your IC res's.

That's exactly what I thought at first. But when you go to ichotelsgroup.com and pull up your reservation, do you see something that shows "Change to Group Booking" in the rate section?

I thought that maybe Orbitz (or some other party) had paid for a group booking and was reselling the rooms at prepaid rates. Then again, what do I know about hotel reservation systems .... almost nothing. :)

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 5:37 am
Ok I am confused... can't get this to show up for Shanghai

Need May 17 - 21. and May 26th

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:40 am
I thought that maybe Orbitz (or some other party) had paid for a group booking and was reselling the rooms at prepaid rates.

That is definitely not the case here - Orbitz have not prepaid/resold anything. Anyone know if the 'change to group booking' link appears in normal IC res's?

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:40 am
So presumably you're going to let the CP charge you the full rate, & then dispute it afterwards with Orbitz? Seems the only way, and a lot of hassle.

I can't see IC getting up to the same kind of tricks, or low-down approach as Expedia, by allowing only January res's to count, or those who have re-confirmed.

Well said. But could well be worth the dispute process for more nights.

I might just no show for the first night stay and let the charges hit and then dispute the matter -- if necessary -- with Orbitz and/or the credit card company. $90 dollars won't be the end of me. My sympathies for those with more expensive bookings that are not refundable.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:43 am
Ok I am confused... can't get this to show up for Shanghai

Need May 17 - 21. and May 26th

Use the Crowne Plaza Shanghai by searching using Intercontinental Hotels in the selection criteria. The rate you will see at first will be 900 some CNY. Then click in there and you will find the "prepaid" rate of 90 some CNY per night. But do note tristan's appropriate item.

I'd be rather concerned with the "prepaid" aspect of this if the amount reaches what I would consider a material amount.

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 5:44 am
Me thinks may be time to pull a few Royal Ambassador strings. :cool:

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:50 am
Me thinks may be time to pull a few Royal Ambassador strings. :cool:

I wish you best of luck as I'd hate to see you get nailed with unexpected charges. Good luck parlaying this into something. :D

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 5:53 am
It is Orbitz's responsibility to resolve it though - they are the ones publishing the rate in JPY - system fault or otherwise.

Attempting to bill the customer in USD while publishing it in another currency will make for interesting news I'm sure.

I wish you best of luck as I'd hate to see you get nailed with unexpected charges. Good luck parlaying this into something. :D

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 5:58 am
Got a reservation. It only shows up as 123 CNY - no $$ at all in the reservation on Orbitz.

Of course I have a printout :)

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 5:59 am
It is Orbitz's responsibility to resolve it though - they are the ones publishing the rate in JPY - system fault or otherwise.

Attempting to bill the customer in USD while publishing it in another currency will make for interesting news I'm sure.

That's certain, whether JPY or CNY.

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 6:00 am
It is Orbitz's responsibility to resolve it though - they are the ones publishing the rate in JPY - system fault or otherwise.

Attempting to bill the customer in USD while publishing it in another currency will make for interesting news I'm sure.

Yeah, absolutely - but who's going to make it news so that they'll even notice? These Cendant types don't give a monkeys bout small fry like myself - which is why fretting, not so much about, god knows - $8,000? hitting my cr.card, but say $1,100 (the IC tokyo costs about 48,000 yen per res. to cancel) & not being able to do anything about it. Maybe I'm over-reacting, but to me this has back-fired big-time

ryan754
Dec 28, 05, 6:02 am
Got it Jan 13-20...

anonplz
Dec 28, 05, 6:02 am
What has me worried, is i've never had the magic touch with these agencies, not being an Expedia VIP, or lawyer etc. & not been able to move mountains, or tweak supervisors up the right way - hence I can see others here getting what they want, but me being stuck with $7,000 of res's - or least not getting a deal that others do.

Seems straightforward to me - you didn't agree to pay $7,000, you don't pay $7,000. You pay what you agreed to. Stick to your agreement. ;)

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 6:03 am
Remember if they do it to you its also to the rest of us - and I don't think everyone will take it so kindly -

(Anyone from the press out there, I know you're seeing this ;) )

Yeah, absolutely - but who's going to make it news so that they'll even notice? These Cendant types don't give a monkeys bout small fry like myself - which is why fretting, not so much about, god knows - $8,000? hitting my cr.card, but say $1,100 & not being able to do anything about it. Maybe I'm over-reacting, but to me this has back-fired big-time

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 6:04 am
Got a reservation. It only shows up as 123 CNY - no $$ at all in the reservation on Orbitz.

Of course I have a printout :)

Email yourself from orbitz.com too.

I did and get this within the email with my reservation details:

Room: STANDARD ROOM
Rate description: 14 DAY ADV PURCHASE FULL PREPAYMENT NO REFUND STANDARD ROOM

Average rate per night: 99.62 CNY

Estimated total rate : 99.62 CNY

Unless otherwise specified, all costs are provided in US dollars.

CNY specified. :eek:

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 6:05 am
Seems straightforward to me - you didn't agree to pay $7,000, you don't pay $7,000. You pay what you agreed to. Stick to your agreement. ;)

Well, thank goodness for the email confirms, as apart from them - there's nothing at all to prove I agreed to pay less, mind you - even those could be doctored.

So now what to do next? :confused: Must resist to try to adhere & follow the new Expedia definition of confirmation, must resist....

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 6:12 am
At least we'll figure out whether Expedia or Orbitz is a better sport as to these things, handling them that is..

So now what to do next? :confused: Must resist to try to adhere & follow the new Expedia definition of confirmation, must resist....

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 6:15 am
At least we'll figure out whether Expedia or Orbitz is a better sport as to these things, handling them that is..

'tis a bummer IC not more involved in the error - they honoured 000's of res's at an HI Disneyland last year for a penny.

What I'm equally worried bout though, is that everyone assumes their will be some joint, unequivocal answer, or at least we'll know where each stands - half the time that doesn't happen - ya never here from them, like Venezuela Isla Magerita for instance.

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 6:22 am
The good news is that there´s someone going to check in in Tokyo in just a few days. We´ll hear then at the latest. And I´m sure they´ll contact us pretty soon. I´m surprised they haven´t pulled it yet. Bad for them and most likely to us too.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 6:23 am
At least we'll figure out whether Expedia or Orbitz is a better sport as to these things, handling them that is..

Orbitz was far better with the Starwood-Lanesborough debacle.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 6:29 am
I've got the Marriott Shanghai (courtesy of FT) and the Crowne Plaza Shanghai on the same night for one night. Worst case I go over to the other. :D

(Both bookings are with Orbitz.)

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 6:37 am
GU - my email confirmation from Orbitz did not have a rate on it. Just the dates. Oh well, I do have the other printouts to work with :)

Aisle Seat H
Dec 28, 05, 6:46 am
GU - my email confirmation from Orbitz did not have a rate on it. Just the dates. Oh well, I do have the other printouts to work with :)Well, I just booked for early Feb and the confirmation e-mail does have the rate, and in JPY - 374 a night, i.e. USD $3 !!! :cool: ^

Amazing ! Thanks OP and all others for the tips etc. Lets hope it is honoured.

nchaurdia
Dec 28, 05, 6:47 am
no more...:( can't find it

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 6:48 am
GU - my email confirmation from Orbitz did not have a rate on it. Just the dates. Oh well, I do have the other printouts to work with :)

Mine do have the rates as well. I´m not the least bit worried about this. I´m not hoping for too much. But most definitely I have nothing but peanuts to lose.

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 6:53 am
Let me clarify, my original email had the rates but GU suggested emailing me the itin from my trips. It was when I emailed from the Orbitz webpage that the rates did now show up (but they do show up as CNY in my account)

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 6:54 am
Still finding it. At a somewhat higher rate.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 6:58 am
Let me clarify, my original email had the rates but GU suggested emailing me the itin from my trips. It was when I emailed from the Orbitz webpage that the rates did now show up (but they do show up as CNY in my account)

My bad. The emailed itineraries don't have the rate. The original reservation email does. Sorry for the confusion.

AHO
Dec 28, 05, 7:24 am
Has anyone whose credit card charged by Orbitz or IC?

BTW, I can't find my reservation at www.ichotelsgroup.com :confused:

mike_steph
Dec 28, 05, 7:26 am
booked 4/19,20,21

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 7:26 am
Most of the rates have the terms that they will be billed by the hotel directly at check in date.

Has anyone whose credit card charged by Orbitz or IC?

BTW, I can't find my reservation at www.ichotelsgroup.com :confused:

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 7:28 am
Has anyone whose credit card charged by Orbitz or IC?

BTW, I can't find my reservation at www.ichotelsgroup.com :confused:

I had stored my IC Priority Club number in my Orbitz profile before making the bookings. Then after logging into www.ichotelsgroups.com using my Priority Club nubmer and PIN and going to Reservations, I was able to see my reservations (which were all made after already having stored my Priority Club number in the My Stuff area of Orbitz).

thezipper
Dec 28, 05, 7:32 am
my res is coming up in ichotels.com web ite, but at Y20,000 per night! gak!

MCI777
Dec 28, 05, 7:36 am
booked 4/19,20,21


I cant get it to come up.. Which site did you use?

gpan
Dec 28, 05, 7:37 am
Orbitz.

I cant get it to come up.. Which site did you use?

yw_a330
Dec 28, 05, 7:41 am
Works for Seoul, Korea too.
~180Won = ~$0.15

MCI777
Dec 28, 05, 7:42 am
Orbitz.

Oh well..I guess I miss out on this one...Im not seeing anything on Orbitz.

coeur 05
Dec 28, 05, 7:49 am
Oh well..I guess I miss out on this one...Im not seeing anything on Orbitz.

first you see the 23000 yen then you proceed with booking
the 172yen will appear just did mine for march 2 minutes ago

MCI777
Dec 28, 05, 7:53 am
first you see the 23000 yen then you proceed with booking
the 172yen will appear just did mine for march 2 minutes ago


Thank you...now it all makes sense. :)

danceswithsunlight
Dec 28, 05, 7:54 am
Does Orbits charge a booking fee? I've never used them before? This reservation does say "Estimated Total Rate" does that mean the hotel has to verify before completely confirmed?

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 7:57 am
Works for Seoul, Korea too.
~180Won = ~$0.15

Which hotel?

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 7:57 am
Works for Seoul, Korea too.
~180Won = ~$0.15

Nice. Thanks.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 8:03 am
Which hotel?

I cannot find it even with help.

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:03 am
Weird, no matter what the date I can only find availability on Orbitz for the IC COEX, not the other IC property or the Holiday Inn. And it prices in US$ not Won. No glitch that I've found yet in Seoul.

yw_a330
Dec 28, 05, 8:03 am
Which hotel?

InterContinental Hotels COEX INTERCONTINENTAL SEOUL

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 8:05 am
The IC Tokyo Bay still comes up at 133 JPY. :)

Moving there sounds a lot better. :D

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:05 am
Any sample dates? Orbitz only wants to pull up prices in US$ there for me, and it's ~ US$246. :(

Too bad that's the property, btw, the other IC is a better hotel...

yw_a330
Dec 28, 05, 8:06 am
Weird, no matter what the date I can only find availability on Orbitz for the IC COEX, not the other IC property or the Holiday Inn. And it prices in US$ not Won. No glitch that I've found yet in Seoul.

It's definately there.
152Won for ADVANCE PURCHASE NO REFUNDS STANDARD ROOM
...
255Won for BEST FLEXIBLE RATE 1 KING BED BUSINESS SMOKING

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 8:08 am
Doesn't come up for the dates that would work for me. Such is life.

Nippon_UK
Dec 28, 05, 8:09 am
I'm planning on going on the 3rd Jan. Is anyone checking-in earlier at Tokyo Bay?
The 111JPY rate I booked still shows on the Orbitz site, as well as the initial confirmation email I received from them. I plan to take both printouts, as well as a "printscreen" of the fare pages.

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 8:10 am
Any sample dates? Orbitz only wants to pull up prices in US$ there for me, and it's ~ US$246. :(

Too bad that's the property, btw, the other IC is a better hotel...

You have to click on "show all rates" or something like that. Then it will show you the "same" rates in local currencies.

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:17 am
Gotcha, I've had to click more rates and then all rates, I do get some in Won but the lowest I've found so far is 187,550 KRW. Will try more dates...

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 8:19 am
Gotcha, I've had to click more rates and then all rates, I do get some in Won but the lowest I've found so far is 187,550 KRW. Will try more dates...

Now choose the 187550 rate and it should recalculate.

RaysMD
Dec 28, 05, 8:19 am
mine showed up as 374 yen/night. I booked 2/x-2/x for total of $13USD

Pointeater
Dec 28, 05, 8:26 am
my res is coming up in ichotels.com web ite, but at Y20,000 per night! gak!

Mine is coming up the same.

Take the orbitz confirmation and drop it into viewtrip. Then on ich's website it will bring up the rate.

Looks like there will have to be an email? I'll wait till you check in on the 3rd of Jan though before.

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 8:29 am
The hotel in Seoul only comes up in USD for me. Not sure how to get it in KRW.

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:29 am
I booked my IC Tokyo Bay res @ Orbitz, their confirmation lists 374 JPY.

At ViewTrip I can pull up the res but the rate appears as JPY 43,500! Oh, and the agency is CheapTickets.com with Orbitz simply in the notes after the phone #.

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:30 am
The hotel in Seoul only comes up in USD for me. Not sure how to get it in KRW.
Underneath the rates is a link to show more rates. Click it.

Then you'll see more rates, likely all in USD, but there'll still be the link for more rates. Click it again. Then it'll show.

szymon
Dec 28, 05, 8:35 am
I booked my IC Tokyo Bay res @ Orbitz, their confirmation lists 374 JPY.

At ViewTrip I can pull up the res but the rate appears as JPY 43,500! Oh, and the agency is CheapTickets.com with Orbitz simply in the notes after the phone #.

Same thing for me -- I booked 2 rooms so at the ICH web site it's showing as 87000 per night! Hope Cendant can come through and "fix" it :)

Szymon

RaysMD
Dec 28, 05, 8:42 am
My orbitz "view trip" details shows the 374 yen/night rate.

GrizShel
Dec 28, 05, 8:45 am
I have a reservation, but accidently booked it with my old, now defunct Diners Club info. Have faxed current info to the hotel.

Tried to rebook, got to the final purchase page, selected purchase, and get:
We were unable to complete this booking. Please try again later or select another hotel. (Message 1448)

jpdx
Dec 28, 05, 8:49 am
Booked Tokyo and Shanghai. No luck with Seoul, HK and Beijing. Advice, anyone?

Great find, Thanks!

gleff
Dec 28, 05, 8:52 am
My orbitz "view trip" details shows the 374 yen/night rate.
Mine still does too.

Btw, Luxury Escapes package comes with breakfast and late checkout (subject to availability).

Wonder if they'll honor my IC RA status for upgrade, minibar, etc. :D

jjclancy
Dec 28, 05, 8:52 am
Don't bother with trying for Russia, the currency error goes the other way there!
Holiday Inn MOSCOW-LESNAYA
6,463.66 USD 1 double bed with sofabed

SAtransplant
Dec 28, 05, 8:53 am
Booked Tokyo and Shanghai. No luck with Seoul, HK and Beijing. Advice, anyone?

Great find, Thanks!

I stand corrected. SEOUL is still there, just a little trickier.

Keep pressing more rates until a KRW rate appears. Once you move the little . from the USD rate, the screen will refresh and offer you a very low KRW rate.

RaysMD
Dec 28, 05, 8:54 am
If this works out then I may have to cancel my previous Tokyo reservation. This is going to save me close to $600. I wonder if I can really have a confirmation of the rate before I arrive in Tokyo.

mikey110890
Dec 28, 05, 8:59 am
Booked Tokyo and Shanghai. No luck with Seoul, HK and Beijing. Advice, anyone?

Great find, Thanks!

Great find thanks also ^ ^ ^

Just booked Seoul. Still working, after clicking on 187,000KWN it recalculates to 187 KWN.

ricepaddy2
Dec 28, 05, 9:01 am
The Tokyo IC shows as unavailable when try to book on Orbitz for May, 2006. Is the deal gone?

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 9:02 am
The Tokyo IC shows as unavailable when try to book on Orbitz for May, 2006. Is the deal gone?

Unfortunately, I doubt it.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 9:02 am
The Tokyo IC shows as unavailable when try to book on Orbitz for May, 2006. Is the deal gone?

I could not get anything for Feb through May at the Tokyo Bay IC a few minutes ago.

GrizShel
Dec 28, 05, 9:06 am
I have a reservation, but accidently booked it with my old, now defunct Diners Club info. Have faxed current info to the hotel.

Tried to rebook, got to the final purchase page, selected purchase, and get:
We were unable to complete this booking. Please try again later or select another hotel. (Message 1448)

Orbitz is busy as a bee. Now the hotel just shows up as unavailable for all dates. Also see no hotels listed with foreign currency rates. Think they are just shutting down availability because they can't immediately remove the programming errors.

izzik
Dec 28, 05, 9:07 am
I have a feeling this won't be honored.. it's not prepaid like an airfare would be.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 9:08 am
I just hope no one gets socked with a prepaid, non-refundable sock-me that is too hard to undo.

jpdx
Dec 28, 05, 9:10 am
Great find thanks also ^ ^ ^

Just booked Seoul. Still working, after clicking on 187,000KWN it recalculates to 187 KWN.

Found the CP Beijing using this method--Thanks!

bidhere23
Dec 28, 05, 9:17 am
Has anyone been able to add their Priority Pass number to the reservation?

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 9:19 am
Has anyone been able to add their Priority Pass number to the reservation?

you sure you wanna do that, & give IC easy access to your cr.card details for the full rate?

If you do, then you need to register with orbitz 1st before booking, giving your details then.

Helsinki Flyer
Dec 28, 05, 9:20 am
Has anyone been able to add their Priority Pass number to the reservation?

I don´t think that people have added those, but if it´s stored in "my stuff" on Orbitz it will show on the ic website too.

ginzah
Dec 28, 05, 9:25 am
Just reserved seoul and tokyo but made a mistake of reserving for 1 person. It said additional person was 20USD yikes! Had I reserved for 2 people, would I still get charged 20USD additional person fee? Or is it only when after the fact.

anonplz
Dec 28, 05, 9:25 am
Has anyone been able to add their Priority Pass number to the reservation?

Yes, by calling the PC 800 number.

MapleLeaf
Dec 28, 05, 9:26 am
I know its a bit extreme. Reserved seoul for the entire year of 2006. The total cost, approx. 60,000 won = 60 USD

That is ABSOLUTELY disgusting.

anonplz
Dec 28, 05, 9:26 am
I know its a bit extreme. Reserved seoul for the entire year of 2006. The total cost, approx. 60,000 won = 60 USD

I hope it gets honoured otherwise, i would get a BIG credit card balance next month. can anyone top that?

Well, it's not the first time that's happened. :D

ranskis
Dec 28, 05, 9:26 am
i booked two rooms in Seoul for 8 days in may... at most it costs me 3 EUR all together, i keep you posted when i receive confirmation or if i receive any email telling me "unfortunately blablabla..."

Thanks for the tip!!!!!

yevlesh2
Dec 28, 05, 9:26 am
Oh god, another one of those idiots! You do NOT book for a year. Just don't if you seriously hope for it get honored! A week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks - sure. A year !???

I know its a bit extreme. Reserved seoul for the entire year of 2006. The total cost, approx. 60,000 won = 60 USD

I hope it gets honoured otherwise, i would get a BIG credit card balance next month. can anyone top that?

MrHalliday
Dec 28, 05, 9:30 am
....and Singapore Intercon is still showing
the conversion error,
but cheapest is still $75-80
as the exchange rate is not so wild.

ews3
Dec 28, 05, 9:31 am
booked a few nights... great rate!

anonplz
Dec 28, 05, 9:31 am
when I pull up my reservation on the priority club website, the rate is far higher, like 43,000 yen.

How to proceed?

ginzah
Dec 28, 05, 9:32 am
Oh god, another one of those idiots! You do NOT book for a year. Just don't if you seriously hope for it get honored! A week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks - sure. A year !???


Just chill out. I cancelled it already. Like I said, it WAS extreme.

Pointeater
Dec 28, 05, 9:38 am
I would think the lesson was learned from the last year long booking fiasco.

grayland
Dec 28, 05, 9:38 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginzah
I know its a bit extreme. Reserved seoul for the entire year of 2006. The total cost, approx. 60,000 won = 60 USD

I hope it gets honoured otherwise, i would get a BIG credit card balance next month. can anyone top that?

CONGRATULATIONS!! You have screwed up the rate for everyone. :td:

You can now be assured that Orbitz WILL NOT HONOR anyone's reservations now.

This is the same type of silly action that ruins most of these deals. Someone always has to make it impossible for them to honor it.

It is the reason that some people do not post these errors when they find them. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

SAT Lawyer
Dec 28, 05, 9:38 am
Just chill out. I cancelled it already. Like I said, it WAS extreme.

Wise move.

Obviously a reservation for such an extended period of time is extraordinarily unlikely to be honored. And perhaps more troubling to the rest of us, it might increase the likelihood that Orbitz and InterContinental pull the rug out from underneath all of us, including those of us who were a little more judicious in the length of our stay.

Remember: pigs get fat; hogs get slaughtered. That maxim may be especially true in cases of deals that appear . . . well . . . too good to be true.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 9:50 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginzah
I know its a bit extreme. Reserved seoul for the entire year of 2006. The total cost, approx. 60,000 won = 60 USD

I hope it gets honoured otherwise, i would get a BIG credit card balance next month. can anyone top that?

CONGRATULATIONS!! You have screwed up the rate for everyone. :td:

You can now be assured that Orbitz WILL NOT HONOR anyone's reservations now.

This is the same type of silly action that ruins most of these deals. Someone always has to make it impossible for them to honor it.

It is the reason that some people do not post these errors when they find them. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

FWIW or not worth, those hotels where I know an FTer or lurker to have booked the better part of a year with such cheap-o deals have not been cancelled. Zurich and Charlotte come to mind.

The "deals" I've gotten in on where people were not "hogs" were the ones that had the greatest shennanigans. Starwood in Bora Bora and Lanesborough London come to mind.

tristan727
Dec 28, 05, 9:53 am
one hopes Ginzah does not get charged the correct cancellation rate - seems quite possible, knowing how this error looks in their's & IC's system. I'm certainly not even considering cancelling at the mo, coz of this.

GUWonder
Dec 28, 05, 9:55 am
one hopes Ginzah does not get charged the correct cancellation rate - seems quite possible, knowing how this error looks in their's & IC's system. I'm certainly not even considering cancelling at the mo, coz of this.

A hotel trying to process one charge at that amount may end up being declined outright. Breaking it up into multiple charges at varying exchange rates and the hotel will certainly not be able to have such a charge stick on my credit cards.

Prepaid cards are useful in such circumstances. :D



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