Mileage Run Deals - CMB Issue

I issued UA and SQ F-class at CMB.

Astonishment fare available.

Now SQ prom. start. CMB-SIN-NRT 1year below US$600.

Huh? Is there a question in there?

I know about the biz class fares out of CMB, and this probably is related, but I haven't really a clue what your post is about.

Are you saying there is a fare for $600 RT in F from CMB-NRT on UA and SQ?

If so, where did you find it?

I'd be interested in knowing people's experiences with CMB turnarounds -- specifically, with the TG flight that arrives at around 1:30am and then departs 75 minutes later.

Has anyone done this turn? Is it too risky (assuming two separate tickets). is the transfer any issue?

It's of interest because, rather that doing an MR ex-BKK (and likely spending 9 hours overnight at BKK) one could be flying during those hours and putting more miles in the bank.

Steve

I'm not sure if I can interpret the original post, but I think that he's saying that there are really good premium class fares on SQ between CMB and NRT.

SQ doesn't publish CMB-NRT fares, but the IATA standard fares between the two cities appear to be $696 for C and $881 for F.... not a bad deal at all.

I'd be interested in knowing people's experiences with CMB turnarounds -- specifically, with the TG flight that arrives at around 1:30am and then departs 75 minutes later.

NCRBill just wrote up his CMB turn on SQ (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489821). I suspect the transit experience would be comparable, whether TG or SQ.

I issued UA and SQ F-class at CMB.

Astonishment fare available.

Now SQ prom. start. CMB-SIN-NRT 1year below US$600.


It looks more like a poor attempt by an airline employee to draw attention to their airline to me.

Well, it could still be interesting, if we knew the details!

Steve

Astonishment fare available.

Does this mean that since I'm not astonished, I am not eligible for the fare? Does this class of fare earn miles? :D

Does this class of fare earn miles? :D

F class? I wonder.

F class? I wonder.

So do I ...

Where are these fares coming from ?? On SQ website, it looks like US$1600+ in C class.............. on itasoftware , seems strange , but cheapest about US$1400 rt in C.

I would seriously look at a few of these if the fare was US$600-700 in C (or F)

PLEASE ... let us know...


I'm not sure if I can interpret the original post, but I think that he's saying that there are really good premium class fares on SQ between CMB and NRT.

SQ doesn't publish CMB-NRT fares, but the IATA standard fares between the two cities appear to be $696 for C and $881 for F.... not a bad deal at all.

If this roundtrip fare on SQ really does exist for US$600 or thereabouts in BUSINESS, makes for an interesting opportunity for a "PPS" sector run...

CMB-SIN-BKK-NRT NRT-BKK-SIN-CMB can be done sarting at 0145 in morning of Day 1 and finished by midnight of Day 2 (ok.. by 00:30am of Day 3 technically) .. so less than 48 hours and your choice of a nice dat stop in either Singapore or Bangkok (12hrs +/-)

Should nett 10.0 PPS sectors -- so approx US$60 / sector ... better than the approx US$100/sector on the ex-CMB to US West Coast fare (17 sectors rt in C).. only about 11,000 EQM (excl COS and other bonuses)

Really do want to know more on this...

Reading him literally, & not having followed any ex-CMB threads - sounds to me like he issues tickets at CMB & will sell you some cheap on the side. Life is harsh out there s'pose.

Where are these fares coming from ?? On SQ website, it looks like US$1600+ in C class.............. on itasoftware , seems strange , but cheapest about US$1400 rt in C.

I would seriously look at a few of these if the fare was US$600-700 in C (or F)

PLEASE ... let us know...

I pulled them from ExpertFlyer... These are one-way fares so the $1400 that you are seeing on ITA seems about right for a round trip.

i propose a Dual - (challenge) out to those of you.

most miles per cents/ pennies (cost per mile)
ex cmb in J/F

i have looked into this alot and there are a few bargains to be had.
for ease i suggest to not tie down to any alliance.

any takers?

i propose a Dual - (challenge) out to those of you.

most miles per cents/ pennies (cost per mile)
ex cmb in J/F

i have looked into this alot and there are a few bargains to be had.
for ease i suggest to not tie down to any alliance.

any takers?

From a pure cost per mile standpoint it's not a very good deal at all. CMB-LAX is around 10,500 miles (depending on routing). For a Y ticket the price isn't astronomical, but it's still really hard to get it under $0.02/mile. When CMB was first "revealed" LH had VERY generous earning options for tickets in C/F and it was possible to get the $/mile down significantly. Now that the fares have gone up, and LH's benefits have gone down a bit the deal isn't as good.

Routing tickets through CMB is nice if you are planning to be in S Asia and would like to fly in paid C/F rather than Y. If you are creative you can fly paid premium class for about the same as a coach ticket from most other countries. For instance, I travel in SE Asia a lot and will start using CMB as a turnaround point in order to be able to spend time in paid F for the same cost as the RT upgradeable coach ticket that I would have purchased ex-USA.

i am sure you can get 27 - 30,000 miles (flown) for around £1,500 in F
which is a nice price in comparison to rtw,

I think the CMB runs benefit people whose programs reward class of service bonuses that count towards status. Additionally, the J/F tickets sometimes allow unlimited stopovers, which can make for a leisurely trip back to the U.S... It might not be a great deal in terms of cost per mile.. but it's a comfortable way to visit some Asia hubs and earn decent status miles. I am a particular fan of the one-way C/F fares on Star Alliance.

I would like to know how one can go and get almost 30,000 flown miles in F for 2500 dollars or 1500 pounds. THANKS SO MUCH

... Additionally, the J/F tickets sometimes allow unlimited stopovers...

Isn't there always the HIP rule?

Isn't there always the HIP rule?Not always. AFAIK, only on MPM-based fares (so, routing-based fares would not be subject to it).

Isn't there always the HIP rule?

The good UA fares are all route-based and allow unlimited stopovers (no HIP check). Getting from CMB to the next city on the route (HKG/SIN/BKK/NRT/ETC) almost always requires an overnight.

the best i have come up with so far was about £1700 for 24Kish miles flown, (via europe and australia)

thats why i said a challenge.

So let's publish the carriers and routings we use to get these numbers...and cost basis

So for the SQ ex-CMB (MPM base, so no stopover - maybe a LONG connection or two ??) to the West Coast is about US$ 1700 in C for around 22,000 flown miles (give or take)

I believe the OZ C-class is cheaper and MPM based

A previous post indicated UA's fare was Route-based rather than MPM - can we see an example and fare basis please ??

Many great fares from CMB to NRT, LAX.
I did the turnaround on TG and SQ a few times - no problem at all.
Just go to the Star Forum and do a search there. Lots of information over there.

on expedia it shows as the fare is base is mpm for cmb-lon-yyc then lax-syd-sin-cmb

this prices out at £1700 out in j back in F but the strange part is yyc-lax is in F but the price of this part is $900 (included in the £1700 total)

so thus i believe the £1500 is possible.

i cannot get expedia to price it up with the US transcon missing.

Regarding the above post....I cannot get expedia to price....and what US transcon are you talking about? Expedia only allows 5 segments to be priced out.... I am sorry to be so dense but could you be more specific? Thanks...

yyc-lax (via sfo for memory)

This priced out at over US$7,000 on expedia when I did it ... what are your carriers and routings ??

i have spent absolutely ages on this - comparing it to rtw's on star and OneW etc and thats why i proposed a chalenge, i thought some of the better brains than myself maybe able to contribute to the ultimate MR,



just this afternoon, i typed in bkk-dps-europe, europe-nyc, nyc-hkg, hkg-bkk and in J its £2K so why buy a RTW as the most valuable miles are the longhaul.
(got the idea from a Q in one world thread, and voilla a savings was avail)

Once again... routes and carriers PLEASE ... otherwise these parts are worthless

i have spent absolutely ages on this - comparing it to rtw's on star and OneW etc and thats why i proposed a chalenge, i thought some of the better brains than myself maybe able to contribute to the ultimate MR,



just this afternoon, i typed in bkk-dps-europe, europe-nyc, nyc-hkg, hkg-bkk and in J its £2K so why buy a RTW as the most valuable miles are the longhaul.
(got the idea from a Q in one world thread, and voilla a savings was avail)

without wanting to po poo the whole idea, typing out what ive done so far with v little interest in developing it further (as a group) is not really what i had hoped and thus i will plod on by myself.

I'm interested and asking for details... THEN we can develop the idea

We have discussed the SQ and OZ fares ex-CMB .... some comments on a non-MPM base UA fare -- that I would like more on..

Attempting to get this but lack of supporting data makes it hard

OK for starters



Flight is not reserved.
Traveller and cost summary
1 Adult £1,762.00
Taxes & Fees £92.40
Administration Fee £5.00
Total £1,859.40
Flight summary
Note: Passengers entering the U.S. may be required to supply the address where they will be staying upon arrival.
Travelling to Paris
Fri 17-Feb-06
Colombo (CMB)
Depart 03:30 to Paris (CDG)
Arrive 10:00
Terminal 1
5274 mi
(8488 km)
Duration: 11hr 30min

Flight: 567
Business Class, Hot Meal, Airbus A340
Total distance: 5274 mi (8488 km)
Total duration: 11hr 30min
Travelling to Calgary
Fri 17-Feb-06
Paris (CDG)
Depart 11:15
Terminal 2A to Toronto (YYZ)
Arrive 14:00
Terminal 1
3739 mi
(6017 km)
Duration: 8hr 45min

Flight: 881
Business Class, Meal, Boeing 767-300
Toronto (YYZ)
Depart 16:00
Terminal 1 to Calgary (YYC)
Arrive 18:20
1677 mi
(2699 km)
Duration: 4hr 20min

Flight: 125
Business Class, Meal, Airbus A320
Total distance: 5416 mi (8716 km)
Total duration: 13hr 5min (15hr 5min with connections)
Travelling to Los Angeles
Fri 17-Feb-06
Calgary (YYC)
Depart 19:20 to San Francisco (SFO)
Arrive 21:03
Terminal 1
1017 mi
(1637 km)
Duration: 2hr 43min

Flight: 578
Business Class, Snack, Airbus A320
San Francisco (SFO)
Depart 22:15
Terminal 3 to Los Angeles (LAX)
Arrive 23:28
Terminal 7
330 mi
(531 km)
Duration: 1hr 13min

Flight: 1179
First Class, Boeing 737-500
Total distance: 1347 mi (2168 km)
Total duration: 3hr 56min (5hr 8min with connections)
Travelling to Sydney
Tue 28-Feb-06
Los Angeles (LAX)
Depart 19:45
Terminal 2 to Auckland (AKL)
Arrive 05:30 +2 days
Terminal I
6522 mi
(10496 km)
Duration: 12hr 45min

Flight: 9506
Operated by: AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ1
Business Class, Boeing 747
Please check in with AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ1. If checking in at a kiosk, use your name rather than confirmation number.
Thu 2-Mar-06
Auckland (AKL)
Depart 07:00
Terminal I to Sydney (SYD)
Arrive 08:30
Terminal 1
1356 mi
(2182 km)
Duration: 3hr 30min

Flight: 9521
Operated by: AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ101
Business Class, Airbus A320
Total distance: 7878 mi (12678 km)
Total duration: 16hr 15min (19hr 45min with connections)
Travelling to Colombo
Thu 2-Mar-06
Sydney (SYD)
Depart 16:55
Terminal 1 to Singapore (SIN)
Arrive 21:55
Terminal 2
3900 mi
(6276 km)
Duration: 8hr 0min

Flight: 222
Business Class, Meal, Boeing 747-400
Singapore (SIN)
Depart 22:45
Terminal 2 to Colombo (CMB)
Arrive 00:30 +1 day
1709 mi
(2750 km)
Duration: 3hr 45min

Flight: 468
Business Class, Meal, 772 - BOEING 777/200
Total distance: 5609 mi (9027 km)
Total duration: 11hr 45min (11hr 35min with connections)

OK for starters



Flight is not reserved.
Traveller and cost summary
1 Adult £1,762.00
Taxes & Fees £92.40
Administration Fee £5.00
Total £1,859.40
Flight summary
Note: Passengers entering the U.S. may be required to supply the address where they will be staying upon arrival.
Travelling to Paris
Fri 17-Feb-06
Colombo (CMB)
Depart 03:30 to Paris (CDG)
Arrive 10:00
Terminal 1
5274 mi
(8488 km)
Duration: 11hr 30min

Flight: 567
Business Class, Hot Meal, Airbus A340
Total distance: 5274 mi (8488 km)
Total duration: 11hr 30min
Travelling to Calgary
Fri 17-Feb-06
Paris (CDG)
Depart 11:15
Terminal 2A to Toronto (YYZ)
Arrive 14:00
Terminal 1
3739 mi
(6017 km)
Duration: 8hr 45min

Flight: 881
Business Class, Meal, Boeing 767-300
Toronto (YYZ)
Depart 16:00
Terminal 1 to Calgary (YYC)
Arrive 18:20
1677 mi
(2699 km)
Duration: 4hr 20min

Flight: 125
Business Class, Meal, Airbus A320
Total distance: 5416 mi (8716 km)
Total duration: 13hr 5min (15hr 5min with connections)
Travelling to Los Angeles
Fri 17-Feb-06
Calgary (YYC)
Depart 19:20 to San Francisco (SFO)
Arrive 21:03
Terminal 1
1017 mi
(1637 km)
Duration: 2hr 43min

Flight: 578
Business Class, Snack, Airbus A320
San Francisco (SFO)
Depart 22:15
Terminal 3 to Los Angeles (LAX)
Arrive 23:28
Terminal 7
330 mi
(531 km)
Duration: 1hr 13min

Flight: 1179
First Class, Boeing 737-500
Total distance: 1347 mi (2168 km)
Total duration: 3hr 56min (5hr 8min with connections)
Travelling to Sydney
Tue 28-Feb-06
Los Angeles (LAX)
Depart 19:45
Terminal 2 to Auckland (AKL)
Arrive 05:30 +2 days
Terminal I
6522 mi
(10496 km)
Duration: 12hr 45min

Flight: 9506
Operated by: AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ1
Business Class, Boeing 747
Please check in with AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ1. If checking in at a kiosk, use your name rather than confirmation number.
Thu 2-Mar-06
Auckland (AKL)
Depart 07:00
Terminal I to Sydney (SYD)
Arrive 08:30
Terminal 1
1356 mi
(2182 km)
Duration: 3hr 30min

Flight: 9521
Operated by: AIR NEW ZEALAND -- NZ101
Business Class, Airbus A320
Total distance: 7878 mi (12678 km)
Total duration: 16hr 15min (19hr 45min with connections)
Travelling to Colombo
Thu 2-Mar-06
Sydney (SYD)
Depart 16:55
Terminal 1 to Singapore (SIN)
Arrive 21:55
Terminal 2
3900 mi
(6276 km)
Duration: 8hr 0min

Flight: 222
Business Class, Meal, Boeing 747-400
Singapore (SIN)
Depart 22:45
Terminal 2 to Colombo (CMB)
Arrive 00:30 +1 day
1709 mi
(2750 km)
Duration: 3hr 45min

Flight: 468
Business Class, Meal, 772 - BOEING 777/200
Total distance: 5609 mi (9027 km)
Total duration: 11hr 45min (11hr 35min with connections)

This seems to be a RTW ticket. Are you just wanting to go through CMB or what are you trying to do? Please expand on what your trying to do.

I'm interested and asking for details... THEN we can develop the idea

We have discussed the SQ and OZ fares ex-CMB .... some comments on a non-MPM base UA fare -- that I would like more on..

Attempting to get this but lack of supporting data makes it hard

Please let me know what your direct question is. I may be able to help you but I'm not sure what your asking.

I think the point is that you can, in fact, build an RTW mileage run out of CMB without any of the time or stopover hassles.

In other words, if you just want to fly, you can fly quickly and bang it out.

I did some quick looks at things like:

CMB-BKK-SYD-SFO-JFK-LHR-CMB and it's fairly decently priced (I saw some stuff in the $5,000USD range without attempting to optimize dates or anything).

However, for me on the west coast, the best dollar/mile and time utilization seems to be CMB-XXX-(XXY)-SFO -- in theory, you can actually loop those flights back and forth to your heart's content. If I had January off, I'd be SO tempted to do 100,000 miles in 8 days. :)

Steve

its not ness a rtw ticket , but to get max miles you have to go rtw ,, or am i the only one who thinks this.

i have managed to get it to price on ita for £1300 - but getting all the bits avail on expedia etc is a challange (thus the challenge to you all )

but some people like it handed to them on a plate.

aj, if you would be kind enough... could you please send me a PM giving me a hint. This is crazy enough, I just might do it :)

AJinLondon has stumbled across something quite interesting. Normally, ex-CMB fares only price atractively using trans-Pacific flights. If routing via the Atlantic, the fares are usually in the $4000 range, one-way for J, for US West Coast. However, for ex-CMB to Canada only, trans-Atlantic routings are permitted for both Air Canada and American Airlines ex-CMB fares.

For example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-AC-LAX-UA-NRT-UA-SIN-SQ-CMB

will price quite attractively at USD 2962.89 (on ITN (http://www.itn.net/cwtwo2687)) in J/C. That's 25,000 base miles.

Adding in a South Pacific routing on the return YVR to CMB would increase the fare only a couple hundred dollars, though this is not auto-pricing on ITN. A decent travel agent would be able to price it correctly. ITA shows a routing of:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 2910 in J (on AC) and C (on UA).

Similar routings work on AA for the outbound. Good thing about AA is that they offer first class fares. Example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AA-LAX-UA-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 4500 with all semgents in F (using ITA).

i infact posted the above routing on FT about 3 months ago and not a piece of interest,
its something quite difficult to work on and ulitmately it would be possible to create a valid RTW at 40% off the price of the same itin. (save a couple of local sectors, but who cares when the price is so low)
thats why i was hesitant at putting in M Run, as it may highlight to various parties what can be done.

its quite easy to get it up on ITA but alot harder to price on expedia. if a TA wanted to join the party would that help with what will surely be complex routes.?

ALSO - in regard to HIP checks , if the 2 airlines are not linked in any sort of alliance is it possible to change the dates of connecting flights to over 24 hrs, without the other party (airline) becoming aware of the HIP rule on that ticket?

..ALSO - in regard to HIP checks , if the 2 airlines are not linked in any sort of alliance is it possible to change the dates of connecting flights to over 24 hrs, without the other party (airline) becoming aware of the HIP rule on that ticket?

It is possible. However, you should know that you are taking a chance, you will have to pay the HIP fare if busted. BTW, it has more to do with GDS linkage than alliance. Some alliance members are not linked by GDS and some non-alliance airlines are linked by the same GDS.

Adding in a South Pacific routing on the return YVR to CMB would increase the fare only a couple hundred dollars, though this is not auto-pricing on ITN. A decent travel agent would be able to price it correctly. ITA shows a routing of:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 2910 in J (on AC) and C (on UA).
Other than, obviously, YVR, are there any stopovers allowed? Is this a MPM-based or a routing-based fare?

the one i was working on had a stop in europe, i hadn:t got further than that

AJinLondon has stumbled across something quite interesting. Normally, ex-CMB fares only price atractively using trans-Pacific flights. If routing via the Atlantic, the fares are usually in the $4000 range, one-way for J, for US West Coast. However, for ex-CMB to Canada only, trans-Atlantic routings are permitted for both Air Canada and American Airlines ex-CMB fares.

For example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-AC-LAX-UA-NRT-UA-SIN-SQ-CMB

will price quite attractively at USD 2962.89 (on ITN (http://www.itn.net/cwtwo2687)) in J/C. That's 25,000 base miles.

Adding in a South Pacific routing on the return YVR to CMB would increase the fare only a couple hundred dollars, though this is not auto-pricing on ITN. A decent travel agent would be able to price it correctly. ITA shows a routing of:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 2910 in J (on AC) and C (on UA).

Similar routings work on AA for the outbound. Good thing about AA is that they offer first class fares. Example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AA-LAX-UA-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 4500 with all semgents in F (using ITA).

what did you type in ita to get this route up?

AJinLondon has stumbled across something quite interesting. Normally, ex-CMB fares only price atractively using trans-Pacific flights. If routing via the Atlantic, the fares are usually in the $4000 range, one-way for J, for US West Coast. However, for ex-CMB to Canada only, trans-Atlantic routings are permitted for both Air Canada and American Airlines ex-CMB fares.

For example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-AC-LAX-UA-NRT-UA-SIN-SQ-CMB

will price quite attractively at USD 2962.89 (on ITN (http://www.itn.net/cwtwo2687)) in J/C. That's 25,000 base miles.

Adding in a South Pacific routing on the return YVR to CMB would increase the fare only a couple hundred dollars, though this is not auto-pricing on ITN. A decent travel agent would be able to price it correctly. ITA shows a routing of:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 2910 in J (on AC) and C (on UA).

Similar routings work on AA for the outbound. Good thing about AA is that they offer first class fares. Example:

CMB-SQ-SIN-SQ-LHR-AA-LAX-UA-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-SYD-SQ-SIN-SQ-CMB

at USD 4500 with all semgents in F (using ITA).

Is this a mileage based fare or Routing based fare?
AC ,I was told was mileage based,thus no stopovers allowed.

Good point, I am still trying to track down which of these ex-CMB fares are MPM-based and which are Routing-based ... any help ??

Interested in the RTW thru Canada with the South Pacific variant ... for a little over US$3K this is interesting... you said ITA won;t price it, buit a "good travel agent" should.. I tried one or two and struck out...

Any good travel agents on board ?? or access to a booking system ?

Not all "routing" fares waive the HIP check. For instance, the SQ ex-CMB F fares are route restricted and HIP applies. All MPM fares requre a HIP check. Some "routing" fares require a HIP check, some do not.

ITA shows that only UA offers ex-CMB fare (A & D fares only) that do not require a HIP check. (See this yourself by using the multi-segment option, Segment 1 CMB-SIN on Jan 10, Segment 2 SIN-LAX on Jan 20).

Virgin Atlantic (LAX-BCN) and United Airlines (CMB/TPE-LAX) seem to offer several of these type of fare that do not require a HIP check. I have never seen them offered by other airlines.

You should look to the main ex-CMB thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277886) to find a travel agent familiar with ticketing these fares.

so has anyone else got some ideas on this route?
and what is poss with stops

LKR 192463 in Sri Lankan Rupees
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Airport legend:
CMB: Colombo Bandaranaike Int'l
SIN: Singapore Changi
NRT: Tokyo Narita
SFO: San Francisco Int'l
HKG: Hong Kong Int'l
Colombo, Sri Lanka to Singapore, Singapore: 1706 miles 3 hrs 55 min

Singapore Airlines Flight SQ469 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in business class
(meal)
Departs Colombo, Sri Lanka (CMB) Mon, Jan 9 1:45a 3 hrs 55 min
Arrives Singapore, Singapore (SIN) 7:40a
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A1) below

Note: The flight from Colombo (CMB) to Singapore (SIN) is overnight.


Singapore, Singapore to San Francisco, CA: 8436 miles 17 hrs 40 min

United Airlines Flight UA890 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, snack, movie)
Departs Singapore, Singapore (SIN) Tue, Jan 24 7:15a 6 hrs 30 min
Arrives Tokyo, Japan (NRT) 2:45p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A1) below

Layover in Tokyo 2 hrs 15 min
United Airlines Flight UA852 on a Boeing 747 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, dinner, movie)
Departs Tokyo, Japan (NRT) Tue, Jan 24 5:00p 8 hrs 55 min
Arrives San Francisco, CA (SFO) 8:55a
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A1) below

Note: The flight from Tokyo (NRT) to San Francisco (SFO) is overnight.


San Francisco, CA to Singapore, Singapore: 8503 miles 19 hrs 40 min

United Airlines Flight UA869 on a Boeing 747 (jet) in business class
(lunch, movie)
Departs San Francisco, CA (SFO) Thur, Jan 26 12:15p 14 hrs 50 min
Arrives Hong Kong, Hong Kong (HKG) Fri, Jan 27 7:05p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below

Layover in Hong Kong 1 hr 5 min
United Airlines Flight UA895 on a Boeing 747 (jet) in business class
(dinner, movie)
Departs Hong Kong, Hong Kong (HKG) Fri, Jan 27 8:10p 3 hrs 45 min
Arrives Singapore, Singapore (SIN) 11:55p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below

Note: The layover in Hong Kong (HKG) has relatively little room for delays, and for this route a missed connection would likely be very inconvenient.


Singapore, Singapore to Colombo, Sri Lanka: 1706 miles 3 hrs 45 min

Singapore Airlines Flight SQ468 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in business class
(meal)
Departs Singapore, Singapore (SIN) Tue, Jan 31 10:45p 3 hrs 45 min
Arrives Colombo, Sri Lanka (CMB) Wed, Feb 1 12:30a
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below



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Fare (A1): UA CMBSFO D fare (rules) LKR 91328
Fare (A2): UA SFOCMB D fare (rules) LKR 91759
Tax: Sri Lanka Embarkation Tax (Colombo) LKR 1500
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $14.10
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $2.50
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $4.50
Tax: US International Departure Tax $14.10
Tax: Singapore Passenger Service Charge SGD 42

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Total for 1 adult passenger: LKR 192463
(as of Sunday, December 4, 2005 7:40pm; fares loaded Saturday, December 3, 2005 5:05pm)

One ways in Business Class (from ITA) : ex-CMB to SFO (as example) : (in LKR - roughly 100 to US$1) :

NW 73,592
TG 75,899
JL 77,005
OZ 89,458 (gone up since Dec 1 ??)
UA 91,328
CX 94,500 (approx)
SQ 96,012


UA is route-based - rules specifically say HIP check does not apply. Uncertain on others

Looks like First class is JL cheapest (107.5K) ;TG 110.4K; UA 128.8K ; SQ 156K; OZ 134.7K

Is FR and CR on TG, return?

These are one-ways , so roundtrip is double.. so on (for example) TG is US$1500+ taxes in Business and US$2200 + taxes in First

ex-CMB fares on TG in first class are impossible now that TG flies only 345s to North America -- economy and business class only.

CMB-LAX on TG prices out at USD1600 roundtrip in business class. TG C on the 345 is a great C-class product, but would still select SQ over TG for about the same price.

You can easily retrieve a list of ex-CMB fares using Travelocity. (http://dps1.travelocity.com/lognlogin.ctl?tr_module=FARE&Service=TRAVELOCITY)

so the UA fare thats $700 is route based to sfo? same for YVR?
so whats the route for this fare. as i assume is the crossing which determines the fare-
i can see the price on travelocity but cannot get it to route/ price.

ex-CMB fares on TG in first class are impossible now that TG flies only 345s to North America -- economy and business class only.

CMB-LAX on TG prices out at USD1600 roundtrip in business class. TG C on the 345 is a great C-class product, but would still select SQ over TG for about the same price.

You can easily retrieve a list of ex-CMB fares using Travelocity. (http://dps1.travelocity.com/lognlogin.ctl?tr_module=FARE&Service=TRAVELOCITY)
However, the CMB-SFO F fare on TG can use a codeshare flight on UA for NRT-SFO.. so it's still doable. CMB-BKK won't have F, though, I don't think.

so the UA fare thats $700 is route based to sfo? same for YVR?
so whats the route for this fare. as i assume is the crossing which determines the fare-
i can see the price on travelocity but cannot get it to route/ price.

AJ,
UA is routable fare. You can have unlimited stops in Asia as well as along US west coast.
For example: Outbound Return
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA Stop
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA Stop
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT UA Stop
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK UA Stop
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -CMB TG STOP
LAX-SAN UA Stop
Total RT Fare: LKR 192463 including all taxes.

Or you can do outbound: Return on SQ No Stop But you get PPS
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT SQ
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK SQ
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -sin SQ
SAN-LAX UA Stop BKK-CMB SQ
LAX-SAN UA Stop SQ:10 segs for PPS
Combine the two fares. Aprox. LKR 192463.
Doubledip with SQ. Miles to UA & Segs. to PPS

AJ,
UA is routable fare. You can have unlimited stops in Asia as well as along US west coast.
For example: Outbound Return
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA Stop
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA Stop
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT UA Stop
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK UA Stop
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -CMB TG STOP
LAX-SAN UA Stop
Total RT Fare: LKR 192463 including all taxes.

Or you can do outbound: Return on SQ No Stop But you get PPS
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT SQ
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK SQ
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -sin SQ
SAN-LAX UA Stop BKK-CMB SQ
LAX-SAN UA Stop SQ:10 segs for PPS
Combine the two fares. Aprox. LKR 192463.
Doubledip with SQ. Miles to UA & Segs. to PPS

so it cannot be lon-sfo on UA as its route specific via asia?
thus fares like this are MPM and thats why i can't get up the ua fare?


£708.80 in British Pounds
1 adult @ £708.80


We are unable to confirm seat availability for this trip.

Ticket issuance restricted.


Airport legend:
CMB: Colombo Bandaranaike Int'l
LHR: London Heathrow
JFK: New York J F Kennedy Int'l
LGA: New York La Guardia
YUL: Montreal Trudeau Int'l
Colombo, Sri Lanka to Montreal, Canada: 9177 miles 27 hrs 17 min

Sri Lankan Airlines Flight UL505 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(meal, breakfast)
Departs Colombo, Sri Lanka (CMB) Tue, Jan 24 2:45a 12 hrs 0 min
Arrives London, United Kingdom (LHR) 8:45a
1 adult in booking code J, covered by fare (A1) below

Layover in London 3 hrs 10 min
American Airlines Flight AA105 on a Boeing 777 (jet) in business class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs London, United Kingdom (LHR) Tue, Jan 24 11:55a 7 hrs 45 min
Arrives New York, NY (JFK) 2:40p
1 adult in booking code J, covered by fare (A1) below

Layover in New York 3 hrs 0 min
Air Canada Flight AC751 on an Airbus A319 (jet) in business class
(snack)
Departs New York, NY (LGA) Tue, Jan 24 5:40p 1 hr 22 min
Arrives Montreal, Canada (YUL) 7:02p
1 adult in booking code C, covered by fare (A1) below

Note: The flight from Colombo (CMB) to London (LHR) leaves early in the morning.
Note: You must change terminals in London (LHR).
Note: You must change airports in New York between New York J F Kennedy Int'l (JFK) and New York La Guardia (LGA).


i could get the same price on alot of carriers but not UA. - this is with ITA and yet to price on sites

Most international fares specify the general routing e.g. Pacific, Atlantic, etc.

I'm very interested in the CMB-YVR fare that allows a transatlantic routing. Whose fare is that? Which airline?

This looks good... thanx

one issue :: are there still SFO-NRT flights on SQ ??
I can see flights thru ICN, TPE and HKG but not NRT

Maybe I am just getting tired...


AJ,
UA is routable fare. You can have unlimited stops in Asia as well as along US west coast.
For example: Outbound Return
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA Stop
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA Stop
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT UA Stop
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK UA Stop
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -CMB TG STOP
LAX-SAN UA Stop
Total RT Fare: LKR 192463 including all taxes.

Or you can do outbound: Return on SQ No Stop But you get PPS
CMB-SIN SQ Stop SAN- LAX UA
SIN-HKG UA Stop LAX-SFO UA
HKG-NRT UA Stop SFO-NRT SQ
NRT-SFO UA Stop NRT-BKK SQ
SFO-LAX UA Stop BKK -sin SQ
SAN-LAX UA Stop BKK-CMB SQ
LAX-SAN UA Stop SQ:10 segs for PPS
Combine the two fares. Aprox. LKR 192463.
Doubledip with SQ. Miles to UA & Segs. to PPS

SQ flies LAX-NRT and SFO-HKG.

one issue :: are there still SFO-NRT flights on SQ ??
I can see flights thru ICN, TPE and HKG but not NRT
SQ's transpacific flights are:
ICN-YVR
ICN-SFO
HKG-SFO
SIN-LAX
TPE-LAX
NRT-LAX

The highest priority for an additional flight is SIN-SFO but that can happen only after SQ takes delivery of some B777-200LRs, which have not been ordered yet and cannot join the fleet before 2007. SQ have also been trying to secure rights to fly SIN-PEK-USA and SIN-PVG-USA.

SIN-NRT-SFO is unlikely to be added anytime soon.

Actually, when SQ was flying the 747 to SFO, I believe the routing *was* via NRT. With the 777-200ER, the routing moved to go through HKG.

Steve

Actually, when SQ was flying the 747 to SFO, I believe the routing *was* via NRT. With the 777-200ER, the routing moved to go through HKG.

Steve
No, HKG-SFO and NRT-LAX have both remained B747-400. When the SIN-LAX nonstop was added, TPE-LAX was downgauged from B747-400 to B777-200ER.