Starwood Preferred Guest - Starwood hotels in Seoul Korea [Master Thread]

I will be in Seoul later this month, and am not to sure whether to stay at the Sheraton or the Westin. I can get a pretty good corporate rate at both, so cost is not a major concern.

Has any got any experiences at either. I've seen a thread on the Westin Chosun, but I thought it would be good to try and get a few other opinions before I make the booking.

Thx.

Both are fine, though not the RitzCarlton, and I'd chose based on location.

The Towers food and service at the Walker Hill are/were superb though the property is a bit out of the way!

Chosen is great for downtown business! And the sushi bar is pretty decent too! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

My experiences tally with doc's.

If you have meetings in central Seoul, or will be visiting embassies, etc., the Chosun is perfectly located.

The Walker Hill is well outside town, but does have busses running into town, and taxis in Seoul are (comparatively speaking) relatively inexpensive.

As to evening entertainment, the Chosun is near Myongdong, the "strip" for Seoul. The Walker Hill, though, has a casino in house, and a dinner show (with entertainment) that is similar to Vegas most times.

I like the Chosun, the high-tech rooms with fully equipped & complimentary high-speed internet access do it for me.

Thanks very much for the replies.

I think you've convinced me to stay at the Westin. I'll have a fair bit of time between appointments, so it would be good to stay somewhere central. I'm also looking forward to checking out those high-tech rooms!

I'll be sure to post a follow-up message when I get back. And if I get a chance I'll check out the Sheraton just so I can compare the two for next time.

Thanks again.

Make sure you know where your appointments are. If you have meetings mainly on the south side of the river, you should stay at one of the hotels over there (Ritz is best, then Intercontinental). Traffic in Seoul is horrible and you'll be sorry if you're constantly wasting time going from one side to the other.

If you're mainly in the old downtown area, the Westin Chosun is perfect (and a nice hotel).

Does anyone know how far the Westin Chosun or the Sheraton in Seoul are from Incheon airport - THANKS

Westin Chosun is as downtown as it gets. About one hour by Korean Air limousine bus (the fastest way to town) with good traffic. It is on the ICN-Koreana-Plaza-Lotte-Westin line.

Sheraton Walker Hill is way upriver on the other side of Seoul. Probably the furthest from ICN of all the good hotels in Seoul.

Incheon is far from everything. In my opinion, no major differences in distance in choose properties.

Good advice from both monahos and TheAuditor. In deciding which of those hotels to stay at, the determining factor should be what your intentions are in Seoul. The two properties are an hour's drive apart in two very different parts of town. You could waste a lot of time fighting traffic during your stay if you're in the wrong one.

FWIW, I've stayed at the Walker Hill Towers in the past and liked it very much.

They also used to have a courtesy limo pick up for such Towers guests at the airport, gratis, but I do not know if they still do! They also run a free shuttle bus downtown as does the Westin.

Enjoy the trip! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Leaving nothing to chance I may be in ICN for two nights in mid May. I would of course like to stay at two Starwood hotels which would qualify for the 50k promo going on. I haven't looked at the list. Looking for two hotels near eachother. How about transport from ICN to hotels. I'd like to stay at the "bum" hotel the first night and the nice one the last night. Please advise.

There are 3 starwood properties in Seoul. The Westin Chosun, Sheraton Walker Hill and a Four Points. I have never stayed at the Four points but Ihave at the other 2. I especiallylike the Walker Hill. There are 6 or 7 differenet restaurants and a casino in the hotel. All are basically same distance from ICN. FAR ! Willt ake at least 1 1/2 - 2 hours from the new airport in Incheon.

The Four Points is the former Ramada Olympia hotel, which is located in a mountain setting in a residential area not too far from downtown. There is not much traffic from this area to downtown, where the Westin is.

The Sheraton is rather far upriver, and getting from the Sheraton to either of the other Starwoods will be time-consuming (traffic and distance).

The most convenient way to the Sheraton and Westin are by KAL limousine bus, which I don't believe go to the Four Points.

Four Points: http://www.escortmap.co.kr/english/view_e_s03.htm

Sheraton: http://www.escortmap.co.kr/english/view_e_s18.htm

Westin: http://www.escortmap.co.kr/english/view_e_s09.htm ('H' at bottom right)

The two closest hotels are the Four Points & Westin. That trip will take 20 to 30 minutes and costs about 10,000 won in a readily available "Deluxe" taxi, or about 6,000 won in a regular taxi, or 700 won on bus #135. I make the trip everyday. If you need more info, let me know.

SeoulMan

Has anyone tried the Westin at Souel? How far away to the ICN airport? Anyone tried the the 4P at Souel? is it good? Just stay overnight, do not want to be too far away from the airport

Thanks

You've GOT to be far away from the airport. Because Incheon is in the middle of nowhere. But, it's only a bus ride away. There are buses that take you to every part of the city. My view is that The Westin is very centrally located, but if you don't intend to enjoy the city, The 4 Pts is usually cheaper. YOu'd have to contact them to find out which bus to take from INcheon.

Too bad you're just overnight. Seoul is a terrific city to explore.

I stayed Westin Chosun last week.

The building itself was "historical" but very well maintained inside.
Staffs are friendly and very polite - as usual in Asian properties.
My only concern was the water pressure of shower, but it's not a big deal.
The location is just center of the city, walking distance to must-see areas.
It took 50 min. from ICN airport and about $11 by Korean Air limousine bus.

I think this is the best Starwood facility in Seoul.

Planning a 1 night stay at either the Westin Chosun or Sheraton Walker Hill and was wondering what sort of upgrade I might expect as a Platinum? Thanks in advance.

Will be going there in a number of months and would like to stay at one of the 2 SPG properties, heck I am loyal, but the rates are very high in comparison to other hotels (eg $250US+++). What are these properties like? Are there any good ways to get better deals?

Not sure when you're going but the new W Walker Hill in Seoul will be opening in the May I believe.

I've only been to the Westin CHosen. TOP of the line Hotel. They treat Plats VERY WELL. Put on Executive floor, with lounge priveleges. (breakfast, hors doevrs, drinks). Free use of the health club and Sauna. When I say "sauna", I don't mean a measly steam room, either. It is a true Korean sauna, fully equipped. You could spend all day in there. With the relaxation room, literally you could!

Yup, it's kind of pricey, but I've seen rates of 200,000 Korean Won lately. (I was there just a week ago). THat's under $200. From the SPG site.

It's a good property to use your points at, I think. They have been listed on Cash and Points. Great deal, though availability was nil, until I called and had them manually make the reservation. That worked out fine.

The location is fantastic, if you want to be in the city. Close to much. Subway ride to everything.

Never been to Walker Hill. Seems far from where I'd like to be.

Aloha

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 100,000miler:
Will be going there in a number of months and would like to stay at one of the 2 SPG properties, heck I am loyal, but the rates are very high in comparison to other hotels (eg $250US+++). What are these properties like? Are there any good ways to get better deals? </font>

Sometimes if you call the hotel directly you can get a special package rate. I did this over the summer at the Chosun and got rates as low as 150,000 won, saving 30,000 won off the SPG price. Plus these package deals often nab you additional ammenities. Got makeup packs for the lady twice and wine and chocolats two other times. Try calling the front desk to see if they can square you away.


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I have to second clublounger's recommendation of the Westin Chosun. This is really a first rate property in an excellent downtown location. As a Plat, I've always been upgraded and treated VERY well. There's even a lively Irish Pub downstairs that, because of its central location, attracts an eclectic mix of Korean business people, diplomatic staff and ex-pats. The name? O'Kim's.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mileage Schemer:
Sometimes if you call the hotel directly you can get a special package rate. I did this over the summer at the Chosun and got rates as low as 150,000 won, saving 30,000 won off the SPG price. Plus these package deals often nab you additional ammenities. Got makeup packs for the lady twice and wine and chocolats two other times. Try calling the front desk to see if they can square you away.


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That's a really good price. I wonder if it is for locals, i.e. korean only. I did a call up to check on the rates while I was there, and the lowest I could get was 210,000 KRW. Went to an internet cafe, and bing-bang-boom, printed my confirmation slip at 180,000 KRW. As a SPG Gold then, I got what I thought was a really nice room with a PC and LCD monitor. Without a doubt, Westin Chosun is where I will stay on my next trip to Seoul, although I might have to send an email to you first to secure a good rate http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I'll pitch in too with good words for the Chosun. I actually was upgraded to the Exec floor as a Gold - amazing I know! Some of the Exec floor rooms are kitted out with desktop PC's and a broadband connection, something I found preferrable to daily visits to the business centre.

The hotel is also in a great location in the centre of town and the staff are uniformly excellent. The only bum note was the Chinese restaurant on the top floor - great view, terrible, awful pastiche Chinese food.

I'm staying in the Chosun next week (plat).

My first trip to S. Korea, any recommendations on making use of my free time?

There was a great family-run italian restaurant just down from the Chosun (left out of the main door, down the small hill and about 100 yards down on the (2nd road) on the left hand side).
Had a fab meal there during the soccer world cup, with some v. friendly locals !! Huge Jugs of beer and superb pastas for very little ...

Also close-by is the underground markets - good for killing some time ...

Sorry I can't help more - spent most of our time enjoying the football then !! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

By the way, don't spend too much time in the Irish bar at the hotel - the beer prices were extortionate !!

Oh, and the pool in the hotel was just fab ! Also a good view out onto the city from there.

John P.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by garethmorgan:
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Hmmm... I guess I would first ask what you have in mind. Nightlife? Touristy things?

Some ideas... If it's your first time in Korea most likely you would want to hit one of the palaces like Gyongbokgun. This is not too far from the hotel and is also not too far from Insadong, a touristy district with traditional tea houses and restaurants. Also take a look at the modern area of Kangnam="South of the River" (take a stop by the COEX mall). There's a pretty sizable discount electronics market in Yongsan (make sure you bargain on everything). Take a trip to the JSA and take a look at the divided border firsthand (I'm sure the hotel can help you arrange this if you have the time). There's also a Korean War memorial near Samgakji.

As for nightlife, the bars at the Hyatt hotel are pretty popular with the Expat crowd as well as large groups of local females. Kangnam and Sinchon are younger areas catering to those in their late teens to low twenties. Abgujongdong is where you will find some more sheeshy bars like "S bar" (NYX-style bar) and "Once in a Blue Moon" (a jazz bar). Also, you can check out a night market area like Dongdaemun, whever lots of younger Koreans go to buy clothes. You can also check out Itaewon if you're into the hip hop scene and/or some seedier establishments.

Just some ideas... hope you find some useful.

Also, while at the Westin do check out the upper floor executive lounge. I want to say it's on either the 14 or 17th floor.. been there so many times but I just can't think of it right now. There's two... I'm referring to the one NOT on the 9th floor. The staff is outstanding.. please do say hi to Mr. Son, an invaluable asset to this hotel.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mileage Schemer:
Also, while at the Westin do check out the upper floor executive lounge. I want to say it's on either the 14 or 17th floor.. been there so many times but I just can't think of it right now. There's two... I'm referring to the one NOT on the 9th floor. The staff is outstanding.. please do say hi to Mr. Son, an invaluable asset to this hotel.
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FYI - yes, there are two lounges. One on the 9th floor and one on the 17th. The 17th is smoking and the 9th is non-smoking. YOur choice. Staff on 9th was flawless as well. If you're booked on the executive floor you can even check in at the desk on either of these floors. If you're upgraded, you can check out there.

I just returned from a one-night stay at the Westin Chosun. I want to join the chorus of praise for this hotel.

As a gold, I was also upgraded to a premium room. Great view of the temple on the grounds. I found a very large and delicious asian pear waiting for me in a beautiful bowl on the coffee table, along with a personalized note card. Room was very plush -- it had, and I mean this honestly, the feeling of a small-scale Four Seasons room. The PC with high-speed internet access was great (as was in-room fax and printer). Very nice bath. Food was great -- both in restaurant and room service. Can't say enough good things about the place. All the staff were wonderful.

On the other hand, the next night I stayed at the Hyatt Regency. Nice public spaces, and good restaurants. Odd, out of the way location. The rooms are small and pretty sterile. I paid (no Hyatt status)a small amount to be ugraded to club level, and found the room was basically the same but had access to club -- which was just OK. Staff was barely pleasant -- the Westin staff was great.

One big plus for the Westin: the airport at Incheon is a loooong way out of town. I e-mailed the Westin before I left to arrange limo service. I was greeted right outside customs, handed a leather portfolio by a very nice young woman and led to my very nice car. They had my info in the folder, and all I needed to do was fill out a very brief card. I was already checked in -- keys were in the kit. Handed it to the doorman when we arrived and was up to my room directly from the car. THAT is fine service.

M.Leo

I stayed at the Westin Chosun last month. I agree that this is a great property. It is expensive, but my rate was cheaper than or comparable to other high-end hotels in Seoul. The rooms are very well appointed, newly remodeled, and the staff is one of the best I’ve seen anywhere. My room had a PC with free Internet access, a free cell phone (rental was free but there was a small charge for making/receiving calls, and you can even have calls forwarded to the cell phone), and a 50-inch plasma TV. The hotel apologized for not having any suite upgrades available, but I was more than happy with my room. They also include free bottles of drinking water, a full buffet breakfast in the lounge, and free access to the health club / spa. Additionally, the hotel is close to the subway station and right in the center of Seoul. If you want to take sightseeing tours, most companies make a stop at the Westin so the tour picks you up right at the door. As you can tell, I would definitely recommend this property!

How much was the limo service?

I'm staying at the Westin this spring for something like $145 per night, booked on the SPG website.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by stimpy:
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I've used the limo service to this hotel in the past and it is very convenient and most welcome after a long trans Pacific flight. When I used it (last summer), the price was around US$90.

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The limo service is fiarly expensive, though not much different in price than a cab and much more comfortable. They should also offer in-car check in, enabling you to go straight to your room. This is great for convenience, not so good if you want to ensure you have been upgraded to a suite.

Does anyone know of the transit hotel in ICN is a Sheraton? I believe it is owned by the walker hill, but no mention on its website. Thanks!

The transit hotel in ICN is called Air Garden. It is not a "Starwood" property but Walkerhill (SK Group) property Hyatt Incheon recently opened. You can take shuttle bus to the Hyatt Incheon 14B at arrival level.

Can anyone tell me how close any of the SPG hotels are to the COEX Conference Centre. I believe it is downtown, but someone above referred to it being on the south side of the river? Since I will be attending a conference at the COEX, I would prefer being close. The Intercontinental is right there and this is a possibility but I am a loyal SPG Plat.

The COEX is indeed south of the river. Considering distance and traffic, the Sheraton Walker Hill would be a bit more convenient getting to the COEX. The cab would probably only take 15-20 minutes. Last I remembered there was a shuttle bus from the Walker Hill that took you to Gangbyong Station on subway line 2 (I'm not 100% sure on this but I know there are 2 shuttles to 2 different subway stops). Samsung station is only 5 stops away from Gangbyon station. Total commute should be &lt;30 minutes. On the other hand the Westin Chosun is downtown and could take up to an hour by taxi during rush hour traffic. It is about a 40-45 minute subway ride away from Euljiro Il-ga station (line 2) which is fairly close to the hotel.

I personally think the Westin has more to offer as far as its location (also the gym at the Walker Hill is awful). Both hotels treat plats well though.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by 100,000miler:
Can anyone tell me how close any of the SPG hotels are to the COEX Conference Centre. I believe it is downtown, but someone above referred to it being on the south side of the river? Since I will be attending a conference at the COEX, I would prefer being close. The Intercontinental is right there and this is a possibility but I am a loyal SPG Plat. </font>

Just got back from 4 nights at the Westin. Fabulous hotel with the best amenities of any Westin or Sheraton I can think of. Great location too! We had some people at the nearby Lotte hotel which is famous in Korea. After they saw my room at the Chosun, they quickly switched!

stimpy, glad you liked the Chosun, which has regained the upper hand in that area since its renovation.

Note there is quite a difference between the Lotte's standard rooms, which cater to Japanese on cheap weekend packages, and their nicer/larger tower rooms, which are nonetheless overpriced, somewhat tired, and lacking in technology (I recall seeing only ISDN+POTS in 2002).

When did the Chosun start using Bulgari products?! I've been staying there for the past year now and was pleasantly surprised this past weekend.

Hello. I am Hilton Diamond and Starwood Platinum. I will be going to Seoul for three nights July 29-Aug 1. I have done a search and read numerous threads but would like a few up to date opinions on where a tourist should stay in Seoul. I do not want to spend more than $200 USD per night and my check of the Grand Hilton, Millenium Hilton and the Westin Chosun all come back within this range. Also, I will be doing regular tourist stuff, and the things most important to me are: accessibility to public & private transportation (will not be renting a car) an area where I can walk around freely and have shops, restaurants, bars, etc. at my disposal, a tourist friendly area, somewhat close to museums and historic sites. Also, if anyone can compare between the different brands, this would be extremely helpful!

Thank you, much appreciated!!

Stay at the Westin Chosun. It has the premier location in Seoul.

I stayed at the Grand Hilton, which is a beautiful hotel. However, given your criteria, the Chosun would be a better choice. Sightseeing tours leave from it, you can walk to shopping and restaurants, and it is walking distance from the Grand Palace.

If you'd like to be able to walk out the front door and stroll to shopping, restaurants, historical sights, and the subway, the only Lux Class hotel to offer this possibility is the Westin. It also has a free shuttle to Itaewon, the US military and other foreigners' "shopping/entertainment" area.

Your plea for someone to rescue the thread, forced me out of my shell from being a long-time lurker...

Although I haven't stayed at the 2 Hiltons, on several occasions have stayed at Chosun. Would echo the above comments re Chosun being the better location.

They seem to treat Platinum's very well. 2 nicely laid out Club lounges (1 non-smoking /1 partial smoking) Good spread of food both for breakfast and cocktails (5.30pm to 8pm) and maybe it's just luck but I have always been up-graded to either Jnr Suites or Suites upon request at check in - with cool looking FSTV, computer and free internet in room.

Must say, been very impressed by how far front desk have gone out of their way to find up-grades even when hotel is close to capacity - a real credit to the Starwood program. ^ ^ ^

Having said that, in comparison, the standard rooms, do look on the small size (and no FSTV - such is my superficial life ;) ), but you always have the lounges to kick back in.

If it's a standard room then request Garden view which is preferable to the noisy Lotte bus station - unless bus-spotting is your thing. :rolleyes:

Other things worth noting:

Korean Air Bus goes between the hotel and airport every 20 minutes or so for most of the day (11 US dollers - 60 mins approx).

Within the city Grey taxis (as opposed to black ones) and subways are both very cheap. Most of the time traffic is not as bad as people make out, but the subway is still probably the easiest way to get around.

Great info above. I would also strongly recommend the Westin - one of the nicest in that brand I have stayed at. Beautifully appointed rooms and good service, plus an excellent location.

Other things worth noting:

Korean Air Bus goes between the hotel and airport every 20 minutes or so for most of the day (11 US dollers - 60 mins approx).

Off topic but worth noting: I used this service and it was very good - recommended IMO. ^

Given the posts I am sure your decision has been made- Westin. I will add my two won. I stayed at the Grand Hyatt and should have stayed at the Westin. Seoul is a very busy city so I would take the advice given and seek the room with the least amount of noise. Enjoy.

I'm heading to Seoul in March for 3 days to use up my free UA systemwide ticket (in Y :( ) and my free 3 SPG Weekend days. :)

There are 3 properties in the Seoul area, all Cat 4 so I can stay at any of them.

I'm there for fun, so I'd like to pick the one that has easy access to the subway, or is in the middle of things.

I'm Plat also, so would be interested in Upg experiences.

Any info on the plusses and/or minuses on any or all of them would be appreciated.

Thanks

I'm heading to Seoul in March for 3 days to use up my free UA systemwide ticket (in Y :( ) and my free 3 SPG Weekend days. :)

There are 3 properties in the Seoul area, all Cat 3 so I can stay at any of them.

I'm there for fun, so I'd like to pick the one that has easy access to the subway, or is in the middle of things.

I'm Plat also, so would be interested in Upg experiences.

Any info on the plusses and/or minuses on any or all of them would be appreciated.

Thanks

Westin Chosen is located in the middle of the city, near Seoul City Hall. There are subway stations near by and it is better location for touring the city. Both Sheraton Walker Hill and W are located eastern part of Seoul.

I haven't stayed any of these properties but will be stay at Westin in May. There were a few posting on Westin, but none on Walker Hill Sheraton IIRC...

We had a one night stay at the Westin Chosun at the beginning of the year (brr...cold!), and it was one of the best hotel experiences we had. We were on an award stay, and was given probably a standard sized room. The room had a computer with high speed internet access, free, along with a cell phone that you can take with you while you're about town, to use. Charges billed to your room of course, but nevertheless, a useful thing to have!

When I tried to tip the bell boy, he said there is no tips needed at this hotel ^ :D Also, you can buy the KoreanAir bus tickets when you check out, and put it as a charge to your room.

Location is also very good, easy access to the subway, and within walking distance to Dongdaemun shopping area as well. Namdaemun is a subway ride and a short walk away as well.

I stayed at the Westin Chosun for one week a couple of times last year. I must say that this is an excellent hotel. I stayed in a standard room and it was really great. I would strongly recomend it. However I have never stayed at the any other Starwood hotel in Seoul. I know some colleagues that have stayed at Walker Hill and they weren't that satisfied. The W I don't know anything about.

We had a one night stay at the Westin Chosun at the beginning of the year (brr...cold!), and it was one of the best hotel experiences we had. We were on an award stay, and was given probably a standard sized room. The room had a computer with high speed internet access, free, along with a cell phone that you can take with you while you're about town, to use. Charges billed to your room of course, but nevertheless, a useful thing to have!

When I tried to tip the bell boy, he said there is no tips needed at this hotel ^ :D Also, you can buy the KoreanAir bus tickets when you check out, and put it as a charge to your room.

Location is also very good, easy access to the subway, and within walking distance to Dongdaemun shopping area as well. Namdaemun is a subway ride and a short walk away as well.

You got Namdaemun (South Gate) and Dongdaemun (East Gate) mixed up; Namdaemun is within walking distance. Namdaemun used to be the clothing market but Dongdaemun may over took it (especially for youths).

I'm there for fun, so I'd like to pick the one that has easy access to the subway, or is in the middle of things.

Check this out, it lists near subway stations.

http://www.echosunhotel.com/General/english/Aboutus/overview.asp

Chosun is a very nice hotel. For some rooms they have cell phones you can borrow for a fee and a wireless compaq.

Great choice! I've stayed at all Starwoods in Seoul (including the former 4 Points) and the Westin Chosun is definately in the heart of Seoul and is a great property.. Although I enjoyed the W, it is much too far from Seoul and has the feel of an overpriced "love motel"... Have had over 30 stays at the Chosun but left Korea a few months ago and miss it so much... have fun and do check out the executive lounges on the 9th and 17th floors. Amazing staff and service.

I stayed a couple days at Chosun last month. It's nice hotel and great location. But,

Their breakfast is superexpensive (Cafe Royale). About 6100 Won for two, ouch! (about $61). Yes, it's a buffet, but it's way overpriced!

Hi-speed internet is 22000 Won per day. Yike! I used AT&T dial-in, but surprised to get the bill for the call, 8400 Won for 73 minutes LOCAL call.

I was gold at that time, and was not allowed to use the lounge.

I'm really not impressed with the service that much. It's good, but not outstanding like I received in St. Regis in Shanghai.

BTW, make sure you visit MingYeongDong. It's a hip shopping area and it's alive at night.

I am staying at the W-Seoul right now and I must say it is an awesome hotel. I was upgraded to a "Media Room". Huge 42" Plasma TV, cool round bed, wonderful views. The only negative is that the location is far from the heart of Seoul.

J

How was your stay? Do you have status with SPG? I have an award stay coming up next month and I'm wondering whether Gold SPG get any extra benefits or not.

I was very pleased I stayed there.

It was right in the middle of town, and a great spot as far as location for what I was doing (just beating around). I'm Platinum so I got a Business room (So sorry, no suites available) which had a PC, although I had my laptop. The Internet was free. I had access to the Executive Floor(s) which I think were 9 and 17 although I was on a different floor. The buffett was good enough to call it a meal and skip lunch (at least from my viewpoint), it wasn't a full buffett but had enough decent stuff that you could fill yourself up. At night they had a bunch of food that you could also eat (and free drinks) till 8pm. I ate that for dinner too, but I am not a food conniseur, I just eat because I'm hungry and with the drinks I was happy. :)

I'm not sure if Gold gets access to the Executive level, probably not, but you should try as it was an awful lot better than most Club/Executive levels I've seen although most of my comparisons are in the US, except for Asia (SIN, Westin BKK, and SGN).

..also there club lounge has hot meals for evening snacks...suffering from 1st day jet lag I never had to leave the hotel, plus the staff in the lounge seems to delight in getting foreign vistors hammered by pouring very stiff drinks...this is a good hotel. Also if there happens to be a protest (usually weekly in Soeul) then it will take place right out side your window which adds a certain entertainment value you just cant get at home :)

I'm staying at Westin Chosun and Gold is just a general SPG member. No extras. BTW, Westin Busan Chosun is same as far as Gold member is concern. Unless you are Platinum, DO NOT expect anything at both locations.

Westin Chosun is definitely the place to go. It's right near two subway stations and shopping centers. There are restaurants within walking distance from the hotel.

The gym is huge. Just remember to take your shoes off when you get into the locker room.

Great choice! I've stayed at all Starwoods in Seoul (including the former 4 Points) and the Westin Chosun is definately in the heart of Seoul and is a great property..

Ah, the old Four Points. Nice location (IMO), but by the time I stayed there - apparently just after official conversion as the signs had just been changed - a rather decrepit relic, cardboard walls and all.

Westin Chosun is located in heart of Seoul. ^ Location is a big PLUS; as noted, it has metro stations nearby and located next to the city hall. For those who are traveling with kids, it has better sound insulation than its sister property in Busan and Seoul Millenium Hilton.

There are restaurants nearby and Lotte department store is next door. It has grocery and food court in the basement. We have been buying drinks and food there to save money. Additionally there are 3 convinient stores (7-11, GS 24 and Family Mart) within a block too.

19th floor is dedicated SPG members.

Can someone provide feedback - I am looking to overnight in Seoul, flying in 7pm, out 9am from Seoul/Incheon airport.
If not SPG property, any other suggestions??

Also - Any suggestions in Dalian and Beijing?

All comments appreciated!

Can someone provide feedback - I am looking to overnight in Seoul, flying in 7pm, out 9am from Seoul/Incheon airport.
If not SPG property, any other suggestions??

Also - Any suggestions in Dalian and Beijing?

All comments appreciated!

The 3 *woods in Seoul (W, Sheraton Walkerhill, Westin Chosun) are all in Seoul which is a 1+ hour drive from Incheon. I would recommend finding something in Incheon (sorry no recs, have only stayed in Seoul).

Can someone provide feedback - I am looking to overnight in Seoul, flying in 7pm, out 9am from Seoul/Incheon airport.
If not SPG property, any other suggestions??

Also - Any suggestions in Dalian and Beijing?

All comments appreciated!

I believe there is a Hyatt attached to or right next to the airport. Its not a *wood, but to me, it's not worth an hour plus each direction to stay at the hotels mentioned above.

Try the asia forum. There are some very knowledgeable posters (moondog comes to mind) over there.

Hi,

Planning to go to Korea end of November. Which of starwood hotels would be closest to the shopping streets etc, ie. best location?

Any other recommendation regarding upgrades etc, I am SPG Platinum.

Thanks

Hi,

Planning to go to Korea end of November. Which of starwood hotels would be closest to the shopping streets etc, ie. best location?

Any other recommendation regarding upgrades etc, I am SPG Platinum.

Thanks

Westin Chosun. Other Starwood properties are located around outer city limits.

Search for Westin Chosun for the reviews.

I second the Westin. It has a really nice lounge with food/snacks replenished regularly. The rooms are nicely decorated. The gym is well appointed. You should try the baths. As a Platinum, I got an upgrade to the club floor (no suite upgrade though). The hotel location is close to two subway lines and within 10 minutes work from shopping centres.

There is a rep who will greet you at the airport take you to the shuttle bus (not free). They will call the hotel prior to your arrival to take care of the bookings.

Have fun in Seoul. The food is amazing there.

I second the Westin. It has a really nice lounge with food/snacks replenished regularly. The rooms are nicely decorated. The gym is well appointed. You should try the baths. As a Platinum, I got an upgrade to the club floor (no suite upgrade though). The hotel location is close to two subway lines and within 10 minutes work from shopping centres.

There is a rep who will greet you at the airport take you to the shuttle bus (not free). They will call the hotel prior to your arrival to take care of the bookings.

Have fun in Seoul. The food is amazing there.
I agree with the above posters.
The Westin Chosun is also great with upgrades using points at checkin if you should want to go for a suite.

At the back of the Westin Chosun is the Lotte Department Store with a very convenient foodcourt in the basement. There is also an upmarket store next to Lotte.

To get to Lotte, you will walk past the carpark entrance and witness "the best dressed carpark attendants in the world" directing cars into and out of Lotte's carpark !

Namdaemun Gate is about 10mins walk from the hotel. I believe there is a massive market (Namdaemun Market) near the gate but I didnt venture into the market.

Regarding Platinum upgrade , I was upgraded to a Suite on a low floor without having to ask. There was a PC in the suite with free internet access. On certain evenings food in the lounge was amazing. Lounge breakfast was OK.

Check out the new W.... the web site makes it sound very hip and quite the interesting room selections... Seoul W web site (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/whotels/search/hotel_detail.html?propertyID=1451)

Stay away from the W. It is located on the same property as the Sheraton
Walker Hill, and is far, far away from businesses, shopping, tourist attractions
( other than the casino).

I can warmly recommend the Westin Chosun which I think is a nice property with a very good location. Near to shopping and if you like to travel around Seoul the subway is just around the corner. There are also a 7-11 just outside the hotel which is good since employers (at least mine) don't pay for mini-bar consumption.

/Anders

Here's another vote for the Westin Chosun -- the location is great, and the people are fantastic. It is, however, a very popular hotel, and that can make upgrades very hard to get.

I lost count on the votes for the Westin Chosun, but it's my vote too. Here is my experience:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401897&page=1&pp=15&highlight=westin+chosen

I am a big fan of the W and Sheraton. In fact Sheraton has Cash and points now. Great hotels and great staff, and cool rooms. The WooBar at the W is happening although beer is 11,000 won and cocktails quite expensive, but great ambience. Out of the way but nice place to get out of the city relax drink and gamble ;)

Anybody have any new info/insight on *wood options in Soeul? I'm heading out in March. Westin and W both offering essentially the same rate. Can anyone share any recent experiences, pro/cons, etc? Thanks in advance.

Anybody have any new info/insight on *wood options in Soeul? I'm heading out in March. Westin and W both offering essentially the same rate. Can anyone share any recent experiences, pro/cons, etc? Thanks in advance.

I only stayed at the Westin. Only downside of W is its location; it located at the eastern edge of Seoul. I don't think there has been any posting on W Seoul unlike the Westin...

Do you recommend the Westin?

Yes. Unless you are Platinum, do not expect any upgrades. Its good service and central location was important for me. Since I stayed there with my family, I wasn't looking for any hip factor.

Do you recommend the Westin?

IMHO, the Chosun Westin is the single best hotel in the *wood program. Unbelievable service, great rooms, great location in Seoul (although Seoul itself is nowhere near Incheon airport).

Stayed at Westin Chosun last year. It's a great hotel. It's in the center of the city and above the subway. You can walk to the Lotte dept store, the Dongdaeman market, and others. It is very convenient. They also give you a cell phone to use during your stay. Receiving call is free, but you pay when you dial out. It's a reasonable cost. Breakfast is in the cafe on first floor. Very good breakfast, but expect to pay $25 to $30 for it. The other choice I recommend is Seoul Park Plaza hotel. It's affiliated with Radisson. Excellent service and hotel. President Clinton stayed there. You won't regret if you stay at either hotel. They are top notch. Both are located acroos the City Hall.

There's a hotel bus service to and from airport. It's very comfortable (two seats on the left, and one on the right). Seat is more confortable than domestic 1st class seats I would say. The Westin Chosun is the third stop on the line. Make sure you get on the right bus. Show your ticket to the staff at the bus stop. I got on the wrong bus once and was sent to another district. Had to get a taxi back.

IMHO, the Chosun Westin is the single best hotel in the *wood program.This is exactly how I feel about the Westin Chosun. It's a superb hotel and very well located in downtown Seoul. Do not pass up an opportunity to experience it for yourself!

I'll add my recommendation on the Westin Chosun (just called the Chosun locally). I've been staying at there several times a year since 2002 and service/quality has stayed consistent on all of my visits. It is centrally located in the city - near the financial district.

The best bus service from the airport is the KAL Limosine. They have about 6 different routes - I think the Westin is #4. You can take it regardless of the airline that you fly. Buy tickets at the counter inside or on-board. As mentioned earlier it is about 50 minutes but you can hop out at the Seoul Plaza hotel and walk across the street to shave 5-10 minutes off. The other option is to take a taxi - if you do this call ahead to the hotel and have them send a car. It will be the same price and they will let you check-in in the car (about $100).

If you are Platinum, they will give you access to the executive lounge even if you are not staying on an official exec club floor. The lounges (there are 2) are excellent for breakfast and free drinks/snacks at dinner. All of the hotel restaurants are good, but very expensive. Take the 5 minute walk to Myung Dong for very good semi-casual fare.

As an aside on quality, during my stays there I've run into Will Smith and the 1st President Bush.

Westin Chosun is definitely much better than the Sheraton or W for location,
unless you are a gambler ( Seoul's only casino is in the Sheraton). I used to
stay there regularly until business made staying on the south side a much better
option, now I am always at the Interconti, which I find better than the Westin in
terms of room size ( service is comparable)

Bump! :)

So lots of votes for the Westin I see. I'm off to Seoul for the first time (3 night break) in a couple of months and was wondering where to stay. (Am SPG Plat and IC RA.) At the moment I am torn between the Westin (which seems to have got rave FT reviews!) and the Grand Intercontinental.

I would prefer to stay in the city centre, and be as close to the tourist sights and the shops as possible. (preferably walkable!). The Grand IC seems to have a huge 200 store mall connected to it's site. For the stay, I can use either SPG points, IC points or $$$. The rates for my dates are:

IC Grand: 250,000 won (approx US$250) or 30k PC points.
Westin: 260,000 won (approx US$260) or 10k SPG points per night.

Elite treatment at both hotels should be similar and both have award availability.

So any advice in making a choice would be greatly appreciated!

Bump! :)

So lots of votes for the Westin I see. I'm off to Seoul for the first time (3 night break) in a couple of months and was wondering where to stay. (Am SPG Plat and IC RA.) At the moment I am torn between the Westin (which seems to have got rave FT reviews!) and the Grand Intercontinental.

I would prefer to stay in the city centre, and be as close to the tourist sights and the shops as possible. (preferably walkable!). The Grand IC seems to have a huge 200 store mall connected to it's site. For the stay, I can use either SPG points, IC points or $$$. The rates for my dates are:

IC Grand: 250,000 won (approx US$250) or 30k PC points.
Westin: 260,000 won (approx US$260) or 10k SPG points per night.

Elite treatment at both hotels should be similar and both have award availability.

So any advice in making a choice would be greatly appreciated!

I have stayed at the IC Grand over 70 times and love it - especially the Junior Suites. Seoul is a huge city so you won't be able to be "central" as there are really 3 centers - Yuoido - Government center (National), Kangnam (where the IC Grand is otherwise referred to as COEX - exhibition center) and City Center (Westin is here) which is financial district. If you stay at Westin you can walk to the old Palace grounds which is very interesting - brand new Korea Historical Museum.

Yes, there is a huge mall underneath the IC but the same stores generally speaking that you find anywhere. You still have to take a taxi or train to
E Tae Won, Namdaemung shopping districts. Be prepared for nightmarish traffic jams, 1 hour commutes between these 3 districts. BC me if you want more information - I work in Seoul - glad to help.
bb

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/index.cfm?Language=English

Take a look at this site - one of the better informational sites for Korea/Seoul

I will be in S.Korea from 28 - 30 Dec, with an early departure on 30th.

Searching through the various threads in this forum, I gathered I should go give Westin Chosun a try. :) Being a *wood newbie, I guess I need to stay at another property as back-to-back stay does not count.

My intention is to visit the DMZ on the 29 Dec. Which of the three *wood properties allow me to get to the DMZ relatively easily? Looking at SPG map, I think the W and Sheraton are nearer to DMZ but is it convenient to get to the DMZ from there?

Thanks in advance.

I will be in S.Korea from 28 - 30 Dec, with an early departure on 30th.

Searching through the various threads in this forum, I gathered I should go give Westin Chosun a try. :) Being a *wood newbie, I guess I need to stay at another property as back-to-back stay does not count.

My intention is to visit the DMZ on the 29 Dec. Which of the three *wood properties allow me to get to the DMZ relatively easily? Looking at SPG map, I think the W and Sheraton are nearer to DMZ but is it convenient to get to the DMZ from there?

Thanks in advance.

too bad you will miss a Korea Do: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=673159

the location of your *W property is not really a concern as most tour companies (which I assume you are using as I understand tour groups get to places that the avg Joe can not) will pick you up at your hotel.

FWIW, on the first post in the thread I posted above, there is a link to the USO DMZ tour which upon my research seemed to be the premier tour to go on. The USO DMZ tour starts at Camp Kim in Seoul, they will send you a map and dress instructions as jeans are not allowed.

In the thread is also a link to a thread about food in Seoul.

Have fun,

I dont think the tour company will pick you up from your hotel.

I believe theres a tour that leaves from a hotel (Lotte ?) just behind the Westin Chosun but do check on their days of departure. I took one that departs from an office block 10-15min walk from the Westin.

I dont think the tour company will pick you up from your hotel.

I went back to look at what pre travel notes I had saved and can't find why I stated that a person would be picked up at their hotel, BUT the original point still stands, one gets better access with tour companies which all leave from Seoul, I wouldn't plan my trip around being closest to where these tour companies depart from as (depending upon time of day) one is probably a short cab/subway ride away from the departure points.

The USO DMZ tour starts at Camp Kim in Seoul, they will send you a map and dress instructions as jeans are not allowed.
I absolutely KNEW that I had heard this information prior to our trip - at least now I know from WHENCE I heard it.
As Sweet Willie (and others) can now testify - jeans are IN FACT allowed on the USO tour. Note that the USO doesn't permit "clean bluejeans" combined with a tee-shirt with "objectionable" printing on it.

Best, Dave

Is any one of the 3 Starwood properties in Seoul significantly easier to reach from Incheon airport than the others? What transit time should I allow? And is a taxi the best option?

Is any one of the 3 Starwood properties in Seoul significantly easier to reach from Incheon airport than the others? What transit time should I allow? And is a taxi the best option?

I can only speak for the Westin. There's a "limo-bus" network operated by Korean Air that has routes between ICN and the major hotels. I don't remember the route number for the Westin, but there are signs outside near the bus stops and there's an info desk in the terminal. It's a long ride between Incheon and Seoul, something around an hour. The cost is around $10 one way IIRC. A taxi will be faster but significantly more expensive. Traffic in Seoul can be terrible, so plan accordingly on your flight out of ICN. I would get departure time advice from the hotel based on your time/date/class of travel. But at a minimum, you should leave at least 3 hours before departure. I've made flights when leaving 2 hours before departure, but that was lucky. They could really use a rail connection between downtown and ICN.

I can't add much more than I used the Korean Air limo bus to go to the W a few months ago, and it worked out well. The taxi would be a bit quicker since you don't have multiple stops, but it was going to be about 6x the cost of the bus. Traffic on the highway along the Han River can be horrible. I'd budget 2 hours travel time just in case.

...worked quite well took about 75 min. in morning rush hour.I reccommend it.

I can only speak for the Westin. There's a "limo-bus" network operated by Korean Air that has routes between ICN and the major hotels. I don't remember the route number for the Westin, but there are signs outside near the bus stops and there's an info desk in the terminal. It's a long ride between Incheon and Seoul, something around an hour. The cost is around $10 one way IIRC. A taxi will be faster but significantly more expensive. Traffic in Seoul can be terrible, so plan accordingly on your flight out of ICN. I would get departure time advice from the hotel based on your time/date/class of travel. But at a minimum, you should leave at least 3 hours before departure. I've made flights when leaving 2 hours before departure, but that was lucky. They could really use a rail connection between downtown and ICN.

KAL limo-bus is the best option and it costs W14,000 (~$14.75).

http://www.koreanair.com/local/na/gd/eng/aa/ia/aa_ia_limo.htm

http://www.kallimousine.com/eng/schedule_en.asp

The train service to Seoul downtown won't be ready till 2010. Currently the service stop at Gimpo Airport where you have to change to subway line (in order to get to the downtown).

I'm likely to be in Seoul next week. I'll be working at offices in the COEX center. The Sheraton WalkerHill is on the corporate list, but so is the COEX Intercontinental. Is the WalkerHill worth a stay or is it too far out of the way to justify. Fwiw, I am plat with SPG but have no status with InterContinental.

I'm likely to be in Seoul next week. I'll be working at offices in the COEX center. The Sheraton WalkerHill is on the corporate list, but so is the COEX Intercontinental. Is the WalkerHill worth a stay or is it too far out of the way to justify. Fwiw, I am plat with SPG but have no status with InterContinental.

Well, it really depends on your status level with IC hotels or SPG hotels. If you are platinum with SPG, you will be well-taken care of @ Sheraton Walkerhill or W walkerhill (they are in the same complex). Walkerhill hotels run shuttle service to the subway line #2 (I think it's Gangbyun station) which you can take the same line to COEX (Samsung station). It should take about 20-30 minutes on subway and another 10 minutes for the shuttle ride. I think the shuttle runs regularly.

If you are IC RA member (Royal Ambassador), then I'd stay @ IC hotel near COEX or Grand IC Seoul.

I'm likely to be in Seoul next week. I'll be working at offices in the COEX center. The Sheraton WalkerHill is on the corporate list, but so is the COEX Intercontinental. Is the WalkerHill worth a stay or is it too far out of the way to justify. Fwiw, I am plat with SPG but have no status with InterContinental.

if you don't need the starwood stay credit i would stay at the coex. you are kind of trapped at the walker hill as there is nothing walkable and you would save at least 1/2 hour each way on commuting. the downside is that the towers lounge is nice at the walker hill.

I'd really recommend this hotel if your travels take you to Busan.

The hotel has a great location overlooking Heundae(sp) beach and a wooded peninsular. The guest rooms are stylish and then hotel gym is large and well equipped. The Korean style bathhouse is also good. I really couldn't fault any aspect of my stay.

As a gold I was upgraded to the executive floor and there was no issue with 4pm late checkout even though my stay was on Korean new year.