Travel Technology - Got Myself an iPod nano today...

I stopped by the AppleStore after lunch and got myself a new white 4gb iPod nano. This will replace my nearly 4 year old v1.0 5gb.

It's really small. I'm afraid I'll leave it in a pocket and accidently drop it in the laundry.

I haven't played around much, but it's going to be hard to be productive for the rest of the day.

HOW?!? WHERE?!? I called or stopped by all the local stores here. One fine Circuit City employee had the nerve to say. "There's no such thing." Both Apple Stores claimed that the first they even heard about it was yesterday, and expect to get some in by the weekend. THE WEEKEND?!?!? :mad: I WANT ONE NOW!!!

I put the Apple Store on speed dial...calling every hour.

Same here. Picked one up. :)

The got them in 10 minutes earlier and were still unpacking them :D

Lucky me :D

FWIW; I got the Black one. It is gorgeous. The 6Gb mini and the shuffle are heading for Ebay this afternoon :D

THE TORTURE!!!

And it's my birthday to boot. :)

Don't quite understand what the little dock adapter does, on the Apple website it claims that the nano dock is the same as the mini dock, and it does fit. The dock adapter looks more like it is for the regular ipod...

Happy birthday! May your wish (for a nano) come true!

THE TORTURE!!!

And it's my birthday to boot. :)

ScottC... I always thought you didn't like the iPod. Thought you were a big Archos fan. What changed your mind or do you use multiple?

ScottC... I always thought you didn't like the iPod. Thought you were a big Archos fan. What changed your mind or do you use multiple?

I have always LOVED the ipod. I just didn't want one simply because everyone has one. I gave in a few months ago.

FWIW; I had a 5Gb ipod the day it was released, the first to make retail through Apple Netherlands and have had pretty much every other model since then. I just didn't like to admit it.

As for the nano; it is simply amazing. Had the usual little trouble getting itunes to work with it, but now it is up and running I am thrilled. Sadly my Griffin airclick doesn't work with it :(

HOW?!? WHERE?!? I called or stopped by all the local stores here. One fine Circuit City employee had the nerve to say. "There's no such thing." Both Apple Stores claimed that the first they even heard about it was yesterday, and expect to get some in by the weekend. THE WEEKEND?!?!? :mad: I WANT ONE NOW!!!

I put the Apple Store on speed dial...calling every hour.

According to my Apple store they should ALL received them today or tomorrow. Initial shipment is just 25 units. Some stores only get 2Gb, some only get 4Gb. Some get white, some get black. No stores have accessories yet.

Sadly my Griffin airclick doesn't work with it :(I'm guessing the Airclick adapts to the iPod like the iTrips, etc. (with a plug in the headphone jack and another in the rectangular slot)?

The Nano doesn't have these two outlets like the iPod and the Mini?

According to my Apple store they should ALL received them today or tomorrow.In the Seattle area, SouthCenter and U Village have them. Not sure about color or size though...

I was also on that anti-iPod-lemming boat.. but I'm starting to reconsider with the black nano. How cute is that? Hmm.. and the website promises free shipping (1-3 biz days) and free engraving.

..heading out the door to the Apple Store, they just got both sizes and both colors. ^ ^

I too, am a long Apple holdout, but just can't resist the little bugger.

I was all set to buy a shuffle. Then I saw the ipod battery class action settlement, so figured I'd wait for the $50 cert from apple (as I couldn't think of any other apple product I wanted).

The nano is pretty irresistable. Wonder if I'll manage to wait.

Picked up a 4Gb black one for the wife just 10 minutes ago!

I may end up going back and geting another for me.

Very slick product.

Happy birthday! May your wish (for a nano) come true!

Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, I bought me a Nano, happy birthday to me!

Redbeard in Apple Store: Nano...6 gig...white
Clerk: Sorry, dude we're all out.
Redbeard: WHAT?!?!? :mad: :mad:
Clerk: Just kidding...here you go.
Redbeard: :D

Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, I bought me a Nano, happy birthday to me!

Redbeard in Apple Store: Nano...6 gig...white
Clerk: Sorry, dude we're all out.
Redbeard: WHAT?!?!? :mad: :mad:
Clerk: Just kidding...here you go.
Redbeard: :D

A SIX GIG nano?

WOW :D

I suspect you mean 4Gb? :D

I'm guessing the Airclick adapts to the iPod like the iTrips, etc. (with a plug in the headphone jack and another in the rectangular slot)?

The Nano doesn't have these two outlets like the iPod and the Mini?

Sadly no. It has a dock and a headphone jack.

But I'm sure the Apple accessory companies are working their backsides off to design cool add-ons as quick as they can come up with them...

i was on the iPod hating bandwagon too until yesterday.

walked over to the Stockton apple store in SF during lunch and picked up a black one.

:D :D :D

i was on the iPod hating bandwagon too until yesterday.

walked over to the Stockton apple store in SF during lunch and picked up a black one.

:D :D :D

Welcome to the dark side :D

Seriously, you'll love it.

I wonder which one will be the more popular color. I bought a "classic" white version, but it looks like most people here went with black.

I wonder which one will be the more popular color. I bought a "classic" white version, but it looks like most people here went with black.

White just gets dirty too quickly or maybe it's my grubby hands :D I just hope that lacquered shine on the black does not show scratches easily.

A SIX GIG nano?

WOW :D

I suspect you mean 4Gb? :D

yes, of course...see how excited I was?

White just gets dirty too quickly or maybe it's my grubby hands :D I just hope that lacquered shine on the black does not show scratches easily.

The black actually gets dirtier faster. I've been polishing it all afternoon :D

The black actually gets dirtier faster. I've been polishing it all afternoon :D

It reminds me of when I used to own a black car. Looks beautiful when clean, nasty when dirty. Hides mud well, but not dust nor oil. Have fun polishing. :D

Well, I just ordered one of these, and I have absolutely no idea how to work one. I am a total neophyte. I am interested in putting my language c.d.'s on it, and also loading it with audio books to take while traveling. Just from reading what all of you have posted I got the courage to go for it. I grew up with rotary dial phones, so this is a leap for me!! :cool:

Well, I just ordered one of these, and I have absolutely no idea how to work one. I am a total neophyte. I am interested in putting my language c.d.'s on it, and also loading it with audio books to take while traveling. Just from reading what all of you have posted I got the courage to go for it. I grew up with rotary dial phones, so this is a leap for me!! :cool:

If you can post on an Internet forum, you'll be able to use it no problem.

If you're not already using iTunes, you might want to get it loaded on your machine and start familiarizing yourself with it and begin ripping or importing your music/audio book collection into it. That way when your iPod arrives, you can just plug it in, load it up and use it.

:)

I Want 1 too. And to think I got the shuffle a week ago........

:eek: :eek: :eek:
do I buy one? I too have so far avoided the ipod because everyone else has one ("think different" indeed :p )

but there's a reason it's so popular besides hipness/coolness...it's a good product

Does the black one come with black headphones, or the 'mug me' white ones :confused:

It can be a good product. I've heard more complaints about the more recent releases... I am curious to see how the nano holds up sicne it is so small. But being that tiny and then having a color screen sure is cool looking.

Is it light enough to jog with?

1.5 ounces light enough for ya?

My iPod nano just arrived by courier - I got the 4GB white version. Considering I ordered on the web on Wednesday evening, it seems that Apple has sorted out some of their supply chain issues (like the 12-day wait for the iPod shuffle when I ordered that).

It's a thing of beauty - really seems even slimmer than it looks on the web site.

Does the black one come with black headphones, or the 'mug me' white ones :confused:

Everything else is in white.

Shame really :(

Does it plug into the Bose SoundDock?

Does it plug into the Bose SoundDock?

It should, yes.

It comes with a dock adapter that plugs into the dock opening for a regular ipod, so it won't be a problem. It also works on any other dock device, I have mine in my ipod mini dock....

Well, if I can make up my mind between the black or the white one, they can count me as another convert.

Love my Iriver ihp-120, particularly for the optical line in, but I had been thinking about how nice it might be to have a smaller/lighter Ipod mini for those trips when I won't need to record anything...and/or a flash drive player for working out. The Nano seems to meet both of those "needs". :D

Well, if I can make up my mind between the black or the white one, they can count me as another convert.

Love my Iriver ihp-120, particularly for the optical line in, but I had been thinking about how nice it might be to have a smaller/lighter Ipod mini for those trips when I won't need to record anything...and/or a flash drive player for working out. The Nano seems to meet both of those "needs". :D

Some people get both ;)

in case you want to get more "intimate" with your nano...see what's inside (http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0908/nano.htm)

in case you want to get more "intimate" with your nano...see what's inside (http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0908/nano.htm)

It has become a sort of competition to see who can rip open their brand new ipod before anyone else :D

It has become a sort of competition to see who can rip open their brand new ipod before anyone else :DWhew! Since I lost this competition, I don't need to get two now! ;)

Well, I'll add my "me too" to the list. I ordered a black 4gb nano yesterday - my first ipod and my first portable digital music player. As someone said time to load itunes and get to work with my cd's.

The nanos look pretty sweet. I'm trying to decide between that and this sony: http://www.dapreview.net/news.php?15

Sonic stage sucks, but you can use itunes to do everything but upload the music to it.
I just know every dirty hippie at school is going to be an 'individual' and rush out to buy a nano to put his Phish and widespread b-sides collection on. A huge improvement over the shuffle though.

Everything else is in white.

Shame really :(

Why would they do that?

The Nano seems great, but will I have problems using it with my existing copy of iTunes? I currently have an iPod with just under 17GB of tracks on it. If I dock the Nano, will iTunes just try to put the first 4GB of music onto it, or do I have the choice of which tracks to load? I still want to be able to use the original iPod, so do not want to "crop" my existing iTunes library.

Cheers.

I hate you Apple.

Went in to get a second nano.

Left with a second nano, a third nano (for my wife), a mac mini, bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse.

Happy birthday Swise :D

I have now officially lost my mind again.

The only thing that irks me is that it's not really that small and hence the "nano" is a misnomer. "iPod Micro" would have been more appropriate. If it were truly nano, we wouldn't be able to see it. ;)

FewMiles..

Man I am just drooling reading all of the posts. I will be getting ready to pass down my mini and getting a nano. I am waiting for it to come to Circuit City. The reason I will not buy it at the apple store is because apple care is terrible. Circuit City offers Circuit City Care for the same amount as Apple Care and they cover your ipod completely. No matter what the problem they will just give you another one instead of trying to fix it. With apple care you have to send it in etc.... Circuit city you just bring it in and show them your problem - they call circuit city care and bam you get another one. Battery problems - no problem. You get a new one ipod.

I am just waiting for the local Apple Centre to open on Monday to check stock...then it should be an easy transition from iPod mini Silver to iPod nano Black :)

I hate you Apple.

Went in to get a second nano.

Left with a second nano, a third nano (for my wife), a mac mini, bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse.

Happy birthday Swise :D

I have now officially lost my mind again.

oh that's brilliant. :D

regarding the BT mouse... I prefer my Logitek. My apple one doesn't seem as responsive. There's also the corded Mighty Mouse. I'm surprised you didn't pick one of those up. ;)

If you travel, have you considered getting a couple of iSights? My SO is a consultant, and the iSight really takes the edge off when he's away. I set my Powerbook on the bedside table, fall asleep to his snoring and wake up to him beginning his day. very cool.

If you're ever in Austin, let me know, and I'll treat you to dinner as a thank you. ;) I'll even graciously pick a venue that doesn't have crow on the menu.

oh that's brilliant. :D

regarding the BT mouse... I prefer my Logitek. My apple one doesn't seem as responsive. There's also the corded Mighty Mouse. I'm surprised you didn't pick one of those up. ;)

If you travel, have you considered getting a couple of iSights? My SO is a consultant, and the iSight really takes the edge off when he's away. I set my Powerbook on the bedside table, fall asleep to his snoring and wake up to him beginning his day. very cool.

If you're ever in Austin, let me know, and I'll treat you to dinner as a thank you. ;) I'll even graciously pick a venue that doesn't have crow on the menu.

I left the Apple keyboard/mouse in the box, I had a nice Logitech set collecting dust and connected those, worked right away.

On my "other" PC I have a Logitech DiNovo, but don't want to have to keep switching and repairing with the PC...

So far I am impressed, it is a little less responsive/fast as I am used to, but it is very usable. Things that were a hassle on the PC like wireless networking and phone syncing were extremely easy.

This is my first real mac in quite some time. I think I'm going to like it.

The world is going to come to an end soon.

Poor lady at the Apple store. When I had the counter full of stuff she asked if I was "looking forward to my new Mac"... I just shrugged and said "I guess" trying to be my usual anti-Apple self :D

To her I say I am sorry :)

Anybody have a spare electrron microscope to read the serial number on the back of the unit? Wait, let me shine a light on it...AAAAAHHHHHH... I'm blinded.

I love my Nano, but hate iTunes :mad: I keep unchecking songs, but it still tells me that I don't have enough room on the unit.

Anybody have a spare electrron microscope to read the serial number on the back of the unit? Wait, let me shine a light on it...AAAAAHHHHHH... I'm blinded.

I love my Nano, but hate iTunes :mad: I keep unchecking songs, but it still tells me that I don't have enough room on the unit.

There are a couple of bugs in itunes 5.0. I erased a bunch of podcasts, told itunes to NOT sync my podcasts, and they still got transferred to the nano. I ended up having to do a restore because no matter what I did they kept popping up.

The Nano seems great, but will I have problems using it with my existing copy of iTunes? I currently have an iPod with just under 17GB of tracks on it. If I dock the Nano, will iTunes just try to put the first 4GB of music onto it, or do I have the choice of which tracks to load? I still want to be able to use the original iPod, so do not want to "crop" my existing iTunes library.

Cheers.

OK I solved that question myself by RTFWS. Apologies...

Next one. The web site claims up to 14 hours playback which sounds great. But then I noticed up to 15 hours for the iPod is also stated. I'm lucky to get 5-odd hours on mine (a 40GB - second generation I think). Can any of you give a realistic figure please? Thanks again.

I'd love to listen to my cool new player IF I COULD GET SOME MUSIC ON IT!

iTunes is garbage! :mad: :mad:

OK...I've calmed down now.

The stinking program won't tell you how many songs are checked and the capacity. I had to keep unchecking songs and retrying to update the Nano until it took. WMP handles it so much better IMO.

OK...I've calmed down now.

The stinking program won't tell you how many songs are checked and the capacity. I had to keep unchecking songs and retrying to update the Nano until it took. WMP handles it so much better IMO.

If you make a Playlist it will display the number of songs, total time duration, and total file size in the status area (center bottom of iTunes window). Select "Automatically update selected playlists only:" and select the playlist you just made.

I have more music than would fit, so I made a playlist, dragged about 3.5 gb of songs into it and selected that playlist to be synced in the iPod preferences. I left some extra space for my photos, I have about 6k from this year alone.

I don't understand why Windows users always get so frustrated with iTunes. Most of my windows colleagues actively try to avoid iTunes. I've been using it since the first version, and it works just fine.

OK I solved that question myself by RTFWS. Apologies...

Next one. The web site claims up to 14 hours playback which sounds great. But then I noticed up to 15 hours for the iPod is also stated. I'm lucky to get 5-odd hours on mine (a 40GB - second generation I think). Can any of you give a realistic figure please? Thanks again.

I think something might be wrong with your iPod. I've been close to the stated amount of playtime on mine.

On the full size iPods, song size makes a difference. If you're listening to songs that don't fit into the memory buffer, the hard drive might be spinning more often, thus decreasing your battery life.

Backlight and browsing / selecting songs not in a playlist also cause shorter battery life.

It could also be that your battery has worn out. They typically die after a few hundrend charge/discharge cycles.

Anybody have a spare electrron microscope to read the serial number on the back of the unit? Wait, let me shine a light on it...AAAAAHHHHHH... I'm blinded.


The Serial number is printed on the bottom of the box.

I also noticed that the Mac version doesn't require us to enter the serial number.

Some people get both ;)

I have a tendency to do that with shoes...;)

Hmm..rationalization here -- I wouldn't hesitate to drop $250 on a pair of shoes and a Nano would be ...practical - right??!!

Well, I'll add my "me too" to the list. I ordered a black 4gb nano yesterday - my first ipod and my first portable digital music player. As someone said time to load itunes and get to work with my cd's.

You might want to check out a service I just found that I wish had known about when I got my first digital music player. Awaken.com will rip your CDs to the digital format of your choice and send you fully organized and tagged files on DVD (for backup). For an extra fee, they'll organize your CDs in a binder before returning them to you. I had already converted about half my collection but I just sent them the other half because it was taking up WAY too much time.

It should, yes.

It comes with a dock adapter that plugs into the dock opening for a regular ipod, so it won't be a problem. It also works on any other dock device, I have mine in my ipod mini dock....

AH, -That's- what that plastic piece it for @:-) ^ :D

I wonder which one will be the more popular color. I bought a "classic" white version, but it looks like most people here went with black.

I really have to hand it to the Apple mktg. group on this one.

Last year they got caught in a bind at the holidays because they couldn't get the mini's into the stores fast enough. By launching the nano in Sept. they've probably dodged the "just released" distribution problems.

My money is on the release of nano "colors" just in time for the holidays. :cool:

Yes; black was pretty much sold out in all the stores I checked. I had a black for a few hours but ended up ebaying it; there is simply no way to keep your fingerprints off it. Oh, and nano's sell on ebay in around 40 seconds. I submitted the auction, and before I even got the conformation email from ebay, I had the money in my paypal account :D

Yes; black was pretty much sold out in all the stores I checked. I had a black for a few hours but ended up ebaying it; there is simply no way to keep your fingerprints off it. Oh, and nano's sell on ebay in around 40 seconds. I submitted the auction, and before I even got the conformation email from ebay, I had the money in my paypal account :D

Selling at a premium?

BTW - I found an iTunes plug-in that automatically imports album art. ^

Why is everyone going goo-goo over this thing? There is nothing really innovative about the nano. I guess the American consumer is really behind in terms of DAP's. Apple finally catches up to the Korean DAP makers by offering a nicely featured product. It still is not as full featured as some other flash players. I give them credit for being the 1st to introduce a 4gb flash palyer @ an affordable price target. Hopefully this will cause the other DAP guys to drop their prices in suit as flash was way too expensive vs HD.

Would have been nice if Apple could have made such a thin player with metal instead of plastic. that would have been real nice and classy, definitely would have set it apart from the pack.

I know if I was a recent mini or shuffle buyer I sure would be pissed with the nano being offered so soon, yet if I was a guy that waited to purchase, I would be quite pleased

Now maybe iaudio/cowon will introduce a larger capacity flash to replace my G3 since Apple has caught up to the rest of the market.

BTW - I found an iTunes plug-in that automatically imports album art. ^

Care to share? :)

i was wondering if apple is using the same flash memories and is only disabeling one of the 2gb flash memories ?

in terms of production etc. it is sometimes cheaper to do so.
i dont know the prices , but if this was the case buying a 2gb and enabeling the other 2gb :)

just an idea, so anyone care to open HIS/HER 2gb ipod and have a look if there are 2 flash memories a 2 GB?

:D

Care to share? :)

http://www.yvg.com/itunesartimporter.shtml

http://www.yvg.com/itunesartimporter.shtml

That's cool. Thanks!

i was wondering if apple is using the same flash memories and is only disabeling one of the 2gb flash memories ?

in terms of production etc. it is sometimes cheaper to do so.
i dont know the prices , but if this was the case buying a 2gb and enabeling the other 2gb :)

just an idea, so anyone care to open HIS/HER 2gb ipod and have a look if there are 2 flash memories a 2 GB?

:D

Nope, according to the photos of the inside, the memory is on a seperate board, so they just plug in the board needed for 2 or 4Gb.

Why is everyone going goo-goo over this thing? There is nothing really innovative about the nano. I guess the American consumer is really behind in terms of DAP's. Apple finally catches up to the Korean DAP makers by offering a nicely featured product. It still is not as full featured as some other flash players. I give them credit for being the 1st to introduce a 4gb flash palyer @ an affordable price target. Hopefully this will cause the other DAP guys to drop their prices in suit as flash was way too expensive vs HD.

Would have been nice if Apple could have made such a thin player with metal instead of plastic. that would have been real nice and classy, definitely would have set it apart from the pack.

I know if I was a recent mini or shuffle buyer I sure would be pissed with the nano being offered so soon, yet if I was a guy that waited to purchase, I would be quite pleased

Now maybe iaudio/cowon will introduce a larger capacity flash to replace my G3 since Apple has caught up to the rest of the market.

I am pretty anti-Apple. But I've had loads of players, and not a single one looks even close to as amazing as the nano.

http://www.yvg.com/itunesartimporter.shtml

Crashes on my machine :(

What kind of transfer speeds for songs are people seeing on the nano? I'm rather underwhelmed by the speeds I'm seeing.

The Nano is optimized for USB 2.0. USB 1.1 will be about 1/3 the speed. It took about 4 hours to do the initial loading of 930 songs. THe updates only take about 2-3 minutes.

Too bad there's not a Firewire option. :(

i was wondering if apple is using the same flash memories and is only disabeling one of the 2gb flash memories ?

in terms of production etc. it is sometimes cheaper to do so.
i dont know the prices , but if this was the case buying a 2gb and enabeling the other 2gb :)

just an idea, so anyone care to open HIS/HER 2gb ipod and have a look if there are 2 flash memories a 2 GB?

:D

ON DApreview they have a trheead with a bunch of pics and linkss that show the internals of the nano


http://www.dapreview.net/comment.php?comment.news.2130

The Nano is optimized for USB 2.0. USB 1.1 will be about 1/3 the speed. It took about 4 hours to do the initial loading of 930 songs. THe updates only take about 2-3 minutes.
Four hours to do the initial load!? It took about 45 minutes for me.

I have USB 2.0 (1.33GHz 12" PowerBook), but the transfer rates I'm seeing are almost exactly 1.5MB/s = 12Mb/s = USB 1.1 full-speed.

What kinds of pricing are you getting in-store. I saw a deal here (http://www.macmall.com/macmall/families/ipod/default.asp?family=10&WTReferer=http://www.macmall.com/macmall/ipod/?WTReferer=http://www.macmall.com/macmall/&wt.mc_id=9303&wt.mc_id=9319) for $244 for a 4Gig Nano including free shipping, engraving, and a free FM transmitter with rebate.

That sound like a good price?

--DD73

What kinds of pricing are you getting in-store. I saw a deal here (http://www.macmall.com/macmall/families/ipod/default.asp?family=10&WTReferer=http://www.macmall.com/macmall/ipod/?WTReferer=http://www.macmall.com/macmall/&wt.mc_id=9303&wt.mc_id=9319) for $244 for a 4Gig Nano including free shipping, engraving, and a free FM transmitter with rebate.

That sound like a good price?

--DD73

That is indeed a good deal. I paid $249.

got it thursday, black,. covered with prints already, but it is so sweet. only took about 30 minutes to upload a full deck of songs.

i'll keep the 20 gig gen 3, nice to have a photo storage device.

Why is everyone going goo-goo over this thing? There is nothing really innovative about the nano. I guess the American consumer is really behind in terms of DAP's. Apple finally catches up to the Korean DAP makers by offering a nicely featured product. It still is not as full featured as some other flash players. I give them credit for being the 1st to introduce a 4gb flash palyer @ an affordable price target. Hopefully this will cause the other DAP guys to drop their prices in suit as flash was way too expensive vs HD.



I agree that feature wise, it may not be as good as others. For me, the price made it a impulse buy range. I already liked the feature set on the iPod photo, and the nano has some other nice touches.


Would have been nice if Apple could have made such a thin player with metal instead of plastic. that would have been real nice and classy, definitely would have set it apart from the pack.


The silver part on the back is metal, like the full size ipods.

BTW - I found an iTunes plug-in that automatically imports album art. ^

I use a program called Album Cover Finder. There's a Mac and Windows version. It basically connects to Amazon's webservice to find the cover art. On the mac, it will auto fill your entire itunes library, if your ID tags are somewhat accurate, that costs extra though.

http://www.amphonicdesigns.com/albumcoverfinder/

BTW, I was able to fit about 920 songs and some of my photos (6,240) onto my nano. On my flight last night, I had a conversation with two FAs who were going to buy a shuffle or Mini.

The local Apple Centre won't give me the student discount on the iPod nano even though the Apple Education Store still offers it. Is this a common occurance?

The local Apple Centre won't give me the student discount on the iPod nano even though the Apple Education Store still offers it. Is this a common occurance?

From what I can tell, AppleCentre is an authorized reseller and is not owned or operated by Apple directly. This would be why any promotions or discounts offered by Apple through their web site might be different than those found at this location.

I guess they figure students will just pay the difference rather than order online. Oh well, thanks for the info.

The local Apple Store in Palo Alto was only able to satisfy my impulse purchase with a white 4GB nano. It rules anyway.

I guess they figure students will just pay the difference rather than order online. Oh well, thanks for the info.


Well they're two totally separate companies, so whatever Apple does regarding promotions or discounts will not carry over to the reseller. It would be like CompUSA, Circuit City or Best Buy here in the US offering Apple products (or Toshiba or HP) with the same discounts available if ordering directly from these manufacturers. That's not the way it works.

They buy their inventory at one price and sell it to the end users at another. If they were to offer the discount, it would cut into their margins.

So AppleCentre really doesn't have a say in the matter. AppleCentre's profits and revenue do not feed into Apple's, since they're not a subsidiary or in any way financially affiliated with Apple.

The Canberra AppleCenter, if you check their web site, is actually a company called Mac1. It's not Apple. Not owned by Apple, and, while they sign a contract saying they will abide by a certain set of policies that makes them qualified as an authorized reseller, beyond that, their policies are their own.

Sad, one nano already has to be returned :(

This is our 20th or 21st ipod, and the first that broke...

If you can post on an Internet forum, you'll be able to use it no problem.

If you're not already using iTunes, you might want to get it loaded on your machine and start familiarizing yourself with it and begin ripping or importing your music/audio book collection into it. That way when your iPod arrives, you can just plug it in, load it up and use it.

:)
I really appreciate this tip. I am so clueless that I never would have thought to do this! I also found an iPod savvy 16 year old who has offered to help me when the Nano arrives :)

About 2 weeks ago, I finally caved and got a 4Gb IPod Mini (silver) and while I think the Nano is really cute, I don't see the necessity for changing... especially as I've pretty much exhausted my ideas for music on my IPod and have only 150 tunes on it. (Mainly downloaded existing songs from fav cds-- now if only there were a way of getting some songs that I have on old cassettes onto my computer & then onto my IPOD Mini.... ;) )

i was wondering if apple is using the same flash memories and is only disabeling one of the 2gb flash memories?

The 2GB unit uses two Toshiba 1GB Flash modules.

In 4GB models, the additional two 1GB modules are soldered onto a daughter card which is then attached to a connector on the main board. On the 2GB modules, the daughter card connector circuitry is present, but no connector is soldered.

Some more internals here - http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/4

I have nano envy...

Sad, one nano already has to be returned :(

This is our 20th or 21st ipod, and the first that broke...

How did it fail?

No covers are yet available for the Nano. I've been carrying it in my pocket. The plastic has accumulated a couple of near invisible scratches...

What scratch remover to you use, if any?

No covers are yet available for the Nano. I've been carrying it in my pocket. The plastic has accumulated a couple of near invisible scratches...

What scratch remover to you use, if any?

Displex :)

Perfect for the ipod!

Check Ebay, I already had to polish mine this evening.

How did it fail?

There was a (visible) defect in the dock connector, we couldn't get audio out it, so it didn't work in the iHome, speakers or car :(

No covers are yet available for the Nano. I've been carrying it in my pocket. The plastic has accumulated a couple of near invisible scratches...

What scratch remover to you use, if any?

Apple will soon be shipping covers that they call, appropriately, Nano Tubes. They're quoting a leadtime of 4-6 weeks.

Judging by the popularity of this little gadget, I'm sure we'll be seeing covers galore from manufacturers everywhere any time now.

Displex :)

Perfect for the ipod!



Thank you. on order.

Do you pay any special attention to the scroll wheel? I'm aprehensive about getting polishing compound into the gap...

uses for the thing (http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/730.jpg)

the thing looks tiny... how well does the touch wheel work since its only 1.6" wide? If you had big thumbs, would it be hard to use?

the thing looks tiny... how well does the touch wheel work since its only 1.6" wide? If you had big thumbs, would it be hard to use?

I have big hands (sorry ladies, I'm taken :D) and have no problem with it.

It DOES seem to be a tad more sensative than previous models so some good finger control is needed.

Same with me. The screen is surprisingly easy to read. I can even make out the album art. I love it. ^ Nano is the new big. :p

My only problem is finding a good case for the gym until the accessories come out. I currently use a UA amenity bag tucked in my waistband.

My only problem is finding a good case for the gym until the accessories come out. I currently use a UA amenity bag tucked in my waistband.

I've seen Nano Armbands shipping, and the Web store has leadtimes of 1-3 business days, so it looks like these are available now.

Go to store.apple.com to order on the web or check with the Retail stores to see if they've made it there yet.

All stores I've been to have the armbands in stock

On Sunday only the SF store had the armbands, they do seem to be hitting all the stores now.

Yes; black was pretty much sold out in all the stores I checked. I had a black for a few hours but ended up ebaying it; there is simply no way to keep your fingerprints off it.

Hmmm, I had pretty much decided on the black, but you may have just changed my mind.

I don't understand why they can't get the accessories out at the same time that the Nano came out...stupid.

I left the Apple keyboard/mouse in the box, I had a nice Logitech set collecting dust and connected those, worked right away.

On my "other" PC I have a Logitech DiNovo, but don't want to have to keep switching and repairing with the PC...

So far I am impressed, it is a little less responsive/fast as I am used to, but it is very usable. Things that were a hassle on the PC like wireless networking and phone syncing were extremely easy.

This is my first real mac in quite some time. I think I'm going to like it.

The world is going to come to an end soon.

sloightly OT: THe mini is slow cuz of the slow 4200/5400 RPM 2.5 laptop drive. If you hook up a nice 7200 RPM 3.5 external FW and boot off of that it will BE much zippier.

I wonder when the first newspaper article will be out regarding someone getting roughed up for their nano,...and no i was not the perp :)

sloightly OT: THe mini is slow cuz of the slow 4200/5400 RPM 2.5 laptop drive. If you hook up a nice 7200 RPM 3.5 external FW and boot off of that it will BE much zippier.

I wonder when the first newspaper article will be out regarding someone getting roughed up for their nano,...and no i was not the perp :)

I was actually considering that :)

I already managed to pry open the case and put in a 1Gb DIMM, that makes a huge difference, but I have a few 300Gb drives on my desk just dying to be installed on it :)

I don't understand why they can't get the accessories out at the same time that the Nano came out...stupid.

Because that would disclose a whole lot more people to details of the product pre-announcement. This would greatly increase the risk of details being leaked.

Leaks dampen the impact of the announcement, which can affect sales, and they also make the stock price erratic. It also clues competitors in early, opening up the possibility that they might try to position one of their own announcements just before or after the release, which would also effect the out-of-the-gate success of the product by dilluting visibility.

Because that would disclose a whole lot more people to details of the product pre-announcement. This would greatly increase the risk of details being leaked.

Leaks dampen the impact of the announcement, which can affect sales, and they also make the stock price erratic. It also clues competitors in early, opening up the possibility that they might try to position one of their own announcements just before or after the release, which would also effect the out-of-the-gate success of the product by dilluting visibility.


Thanks ^ ..I think :confused: ...I am still digesting that one... :D

Because that would disclose a whole lot more people to details of the product pre-announcement. This would greatly increase the risk of details being leaked.

Leaks dampen the impact of the announcement, which can affect sales, and they also make the stock price erratic. It also clues competitors in early, opening up the possibility that they might try to position one of their own announcements just before or after the release, which would also effect the out-of-the-gate success of the product by dilluting visibility.

I have to admit, Apple did a bloody good job at keeping this quiet. Not a single website had managed to catch a leak on it :)

I have to admit, Apple did a bloody good job at keeping this quiet. Not a single website had managed to catch a leak on it :)

I think I noticed a couple a day or two beforehand. That's pretty typical, as it's when the resellers are able to put in their orders so that they'll arrive in time for the announcement. It's really an uncanny correlation. ;)

This time around, though, I don't think anyone had orders in ahead of time. That seemed to really keep down the rumors to nearly nothing and nothing firm.

Even I didn't know what to expect. :)

I wonder when the first newspaper article will be out regarding someone getting roughed up for their nano...

Here is an article about someone roughing up a Nano.

Tough little beast.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3

Edit to note that SEA_Tigger previously posted a link to the arstechnica site.

I think I noticed a couple a day or two beforehand. That's pretty typical, as it's when the resellers are able to put in their orders so that they'll arrive in time for the announcement. It's really an uncanny correlation. ;)

This time around, though, I don't think anyone had orders in ahead of time. That seemed to really keep down the rumors to nearly nothing and nothing firm.

Even I didn't know what to expect. :)

I have images of a paramilitary style operation being performed by Apple security to keep this quiet :)

An amazing performance!

I have images of a paramilitary style operation being performed by Apple security to keep this quiet :)

everything but.

An amazing performance!

indeed. I'd love to tell you more, but then I'd have to kill you.

:p

My black 2G engraved nano is still the only one I've seen. I ordered it from apple.com on 9/7 and it came 9/12.

This is my first ipod, so I don't have anything to compare it to, but it is pretty much my favorite material thing right now. For me, the coolness factor is off the scale.

It has been a long time since I was the first person I know to get something new as it is just coming out.

I could not be more stoked. That's Californian for very pleased. :D

Well, I caved and went to the nearby Apple store at lunchtime today. Since ScottC had mentioned how badly fingerprints smudged his black Nano, I figured I needed to check them both out and Scott, you were definitely right!

Walked out with the last 4GB Nano they had ...in white and I am sure I will love it. Pretty underwhelmed with the purchase experience at the Apple store though (too much cooler than thou 'tude from the clerks) ..another reminder of why I much prefer buying via the internet!

Stupid question # 5495498:

How do I get a picture on this Nano? I can't fgure out how to load them! Eeek! Help!

Just bought a Nano, yesterday. The reason why I bought it was to have something I could run and workout with. After I opened the package, I found that I really have limited options for protecting my nano and strapping it somewhere on me while I run. Ideally, I'd like some sort of a skin to cover it, with a clip to attach to my shorts. Does anyone know of anything like that out yet? I'm not a big fan of the arm bands.

Thanks!

Just bought a Nano, yesterday. The reason why I bought it was to have something I could run and workout with. After I opened the package, I found that I really have limited options for protecting my nano and strapping it somewhere on me while I run. Ideally, I'd like some sort of a skin to cover it, with a clip to attach to my shorts. Does anyone know of anything like that out yet? I'm not a big fan of the arm bands.

Thanks!

Give it a month or so. There will me around 20 cases in a month...

I was poking around the net and found this comprehensive list of free iTunes on the iTunes site...

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=102524

Reviews of new iPod Nano accessories will probably show up here (http://www.ilounge.com) first.

XtremeMac (http://www.xtrememac.com) usually offers new accessories pretty soon after a launch.

You might also be able to find a generic style case with a belt clip made for cell phones and the like. It might be a little big, but chances are you could find one for pretty cheap to tide you over until the wave of iPod Nano accoutrements crashes down upon us. You could wrap the Nano in a hanky or something to keep it from bouncing around too much in the case.

Alternatively, it might fit in the key pocket of a pair of running shorts, but then people might wonder what your headphones are doing coming out from your shorts. :p

I have a hook in my office where I keep the identification tags from tradeshows I've attended all hanging in a group. I found a nice clear plastic one, discarded the schedule, and slipped in the Nano.

It wouldn't work for jogging, but it's great for just hanging around.

My Nano arrived today, a day earlier than promised, with my name engraved, and I am thrilled. I am a totally non technological person, and I was able to load my songs, language tapes, and an audio book in preparation for a trip I'm taking. I feel so accomplished. The only reason I ventured to try one was because of all the knowledgable people posting here, and their favorable comments.

I was able to rig up a makeshift case. It is a Radisson Seven Seas luggage tag from a cruise I took. I hooked one of those clips that hold I.D. badges on your shirt through the luggage tag strap slot. I put the Nano in upside down so that the earphones can come out the open end. The clear plastic of the luggage tag keeps it clean. I can just push on the plastic, and use the click wheel and the menu responds.

After repeated tries, I am unable to set the alarm clock, and must be doing something wrong, because I can't get it to work. I thought I was following the instructions, but apparently not.

The sound quality is exceptional, and I continue marvel how all that comes out of the tiny Nano.

The sound quality is exceptional, and I continue marvel how all that comes out of the tiny Nano.

According to the iPodLounge.com forums, the Nano is as good as any iPod when it comes to sound. Of particular note is the vastly improved bass response, apparently it's as good as the shuffle. I got mine on Tuesday, and have been busy loading up album art and photos. A very happy camper! :D

I finally got all my album art done yesterday, it seems like most of the apps out there do not like itunes 5, so I installed 4 on my laptop and left it running overnight. 9000 tracks later it only skipped around 500 of them, so I updated those manually :D

watch out for album art, it takes up space. I think I read a while ago, that overall it was sapping as much as 5% of the storage capacity.

watch out for album art, it takes up space. I think I read a while ago, that overall it was sapping as much as 5% of the storage capacity.


Yes, since it adds the art to the actual MP3 file, each file grows by around 15k. Still; it is worth it :)

Just think that all of those ishuffle buyers must feel like suckers for buying that device now that the nano is out. 3 extra gbs for $100 more and a color screen to boot! Even recent mini buyers must feel like suckers.

I think Apple does its customer base a disservice by being so secretive about their product launches. Honestly they don't create innovative enough players to be so secretive. They make nice players with certain but in no way full featured. It is not like anyone is going to beat them to the market. People buy an Ipod because it is an ipod. The only thing that the nano has over other flash DAP's is that it is 4gb's of solid state memory at an awesome price point.

Just think that all of those ishuffle buyers must feel like suckers for buying that device now that the nano is out. 3 extra gbs for $100 more and a color screen to boot! Even recent mini buyers must feel like suckers.

I think Apple does its customer base a disservice by being so secretive about their product launches. Honestly they don't create innovative enough players to be so secretive. They make nice players with certain but in no way full featured. It is not like anyone is going to beat them to the market. People buy an Ipod because it is an ipod. The only thing that the nano has over other flash DAP's is that it is 4gb's of solid state memory at an awesome price point.

I don't think any company has a more loyal following of customers. I recently got the 6Gb mini, and a shuffle. And was more than happy to drop another $250 for a nano.

FWIW; there is a good market for used Apple stuff, so I sold both with fairly minimal losses.

This thread reminded me I have three free iTunes song codes I got during a trade show last month - I'll PM them to the first three people (who have previously posted in this thread) who PM me.

I don't think any company has a more loyal following of customers. I recently got the 6Gb mini, and a shuffle. And was more than happy to drop another $250 for a nano.

FWIW; there is a good market for used Apple stuff, so I sold both with fairly minimal losses.

What in the world would one person need 3 different DAP's? I can understand having 1 high capacity HD and 1 flash player. My cowon/iaudio fulfills all of my DAP needs and I supplement my other needs with a portable CD player.

I think u hit the nail on the head with ipod having such a "loyal" following. The owners are loyal but don't seem to be too demanding and eagerly accept what ipod gives them.
Also I think the brilliance of apple marketing is that they create a " lifestyle" for their owners which is why one would go out and buy several different models of basically the same DAP along with the hundreds of dollars of accessories.

Not so different than what Starbucks did in turning coffee drinking into a lifestyle experience. People for decades were perfectly content to spend $.50 for a cup of coffee; now they eagerly spend $4 for the same cup of coffee because it is Starbucks. When I was younger the coffee that my grandmother made in a tin pot on the stove tasted a heck of alot better than the $5 swill I buy in a fancy cafe. Heck even Dunkin Donuts, 7-11 or quick check have good coffee for $1.50.

I just bought the white one today, this is my first experience with anything like this. I was looking for an MP3 player and I bought this one on the advice of FT. :) I am very non-technical and have put a few cd's of songs on it already. I am amazed at how easy it is.... however...

:o Stupid question # 5495499: Can I only charge the battery by plugging it into my laptop? What do I do if I go somewhere and don't plan on taking my laptop? Is there a battery charger I can buy? TIA!

:o Stupid question # 5495499: Can I only charge the battery by plugging it into my laptop? What do I do if I go somewhere and don't plan on taking my laptop? Is there a battery charger I can buy? TIA!

Check out The Apple Store (store.apple.com) for several options. Navigate to iPod accessories->power. There are wall chargers, car chargers, the iGo (a single unit for charging devices simultaneously, like laptop and phone, or phone and iPod, etc), external supplemental battery packs, etc.

There are pretty good reviews of many of the accessories out there at iPod Lounge (ilounge.com).

I just bought the white one today, this is my first experience with anything like this. I was looking for an MP3 player and I bought this one on the advice of FT. :) I am very non-technical and have put a few cd's of songs on it already. I am amazed at how easy it is.... however...

:o Stupid question # 5495499: Can I only charge the battery by plugging it into my laptop? What do I do if I go somewhere and don't plan on taking my laptop? Is there a battery charger I can buy? TIA!

Yes, you can buy an "iPod USB Power Adapter" from Apple for $29. Also available is a plethora of third-party car chargers.

Just think that all of those ishuffle buyers must feel like suckers for buying that device now that the nano is out. 3 extra gbs for $100 more and a color screen to boot! Even recent mini buyers must feel like suckers.

I think Apple does its customer base a disservice by being so secretive about their product launches.

They may just be timing their releases so that, just about the time the battery in your current Ipod is about to die, they release their "latest, coolest." Makes everybody far happier to buy a new Ipod if they're getting the latest one...rather than having to buy a new one or spend $$$ to get the battery replaced..

They may just be timing their releases so that, just about the time the battery in your current Ipod is about to die, they release their "latest, coolest." Makes everybody far happier to buy a new Ipod if they're getting the latest one...rather than having to buy a new one or spend $$$ to get the battery replaced..

The decision to upgrade to a nano from a mini (1st Generation) was certainly made easier because the warranty on my mini was about to run out. On a trip I had the dreaded file icon show up, indicating HDD failure, so spent that trip music-less and I don't fancy paying for it to get repaired if it's out of warranty.

I have had my 4GB black nano for three days now, and my wife has had her 4GB white one for about a week. What can I say - these are just amazing little devices. I will continue to use my 30GB 3G simply because it has 25 odd GB of music on it and I play it through my stereo system at work. However for travel and for walking around town, the nano is it. I have installed it in a nice black skin (the fingerprints were terrible!), plugged in the Ety ER4P's and am loving it.

The small storage size is not a problem. I plan to have a couple of audiobooks and 10 or 15 albums on it (mostly stuff that I have bought and not had a chance to listen to) and to rotate the music regularly.

My favorite feature- it pauses if the headphones accidentally come out while it is playing. To me that says it all about Apple design - someone really thinks about these products. I expect to see this one in the permanent collection of MOMA.

The small storage size is not a problem.


I am way outclassed as a music junkie. I have 1.75 days of music on my iPod nano and it is just a little over half full.

Thanks for the mention of the skins - I ordered several from DecalGirl.

The decision to upgrade to a nano from a mini (1st Generation) was certainly made easier because the warranty on my mini was about to run out. On a trip I had the dreaded file icon show up, indicating HDD failure, so spent that trip music-less and I don't fancy paying for it to get repaired if it's out of warranty.

I know I often use that type of rationalization for upgrading my tech toys (er, cough, I meant productivity tools)

I know I often use that type of rationalization for upgrading my tech toys (er, cough, I meant productivity tools)

Productivity tools...yeah, that's the ticket. ^ :p


I need the neckstrap. The armband gets in my way at the gym, and isn't big enough for my biceps. :D They must make it for women and scrawny dudes.

They must make it for...and scrawny dudes.

Maybe I should invest in one... :D

Stupid question # 5495499: Can I only charge the battery by plugging it into my laptop? What do I do if I go somewhere and don't plan on taking my laptop? Is there a battery charger I can buy? TIA!


I have a little wall wart that is basically a transformer with AC plugs on one side and a USB out on the other. I also hava a car lighter plug with a USB out on the back. I always have a USB charger cable with me, so those two small items pretty much cover me wherever I go and are completely device independant.

Here you go - $15 to your door : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5810755489

You can also be each part individually, but this seems like a good deal.

I have no interest in this, although I have purchased many items like this from the same company. Never a problem

I know I often use that type of rationalization for upgrading my tech toys (er, cough, I meant productivity tools)

Funny to hear but I really do believe that iPODs have made exercising more enjoyable. Hah. Even I can't say it with a straight face. :D

OK, thanks to everyone here for convincing me that the Nano is for me. So, I am seeing on the internet that they are kind of in short supply. Any suggestions on the quickest (and reasonably cheap but I see there isn't more than a few $$$ difference online) way to get one. I am near GEG this week on business and will make a quick stop back home over the weekend before returning and would like to have it before I get back here.

OK, thanks to everyone here for convincing me that the Nano is for me. So, I am seeing on the internet that they are kind of in short supply. Any suggestions on the quickest (and reasonably cheap but I see there isn't more than a few $$$ difference online) way to get one. I am near GEG this week on business and will make a quick stop back home over the weekend before returning and would like to have it before I get back here.

There's an Apple Store in Indianapolis (http://www.apple.com/retail/keystone/).

I think I may finally break down and get one of these.

I did a search on eBay to see what the prices look like -- people are paying MORE than the retail price PLUS shipping costs on top of that :rolleyes:

There's an Apple Store in Indianapolis (http://www.apple.com/retail/keystone/).

Thanks, I may go there...I was kind of thinking either mail order (to save sales tax) or on my way to GEG airport because I like too many people when I decide I want something I want it NOW.

Wow! Apple just keeps innovating! I want one of these (http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/ipod-giganto-p1.php)

:p

Wow! Apple just keeps innovating! I want one of these (http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/ipod-giganto-p1.php)

:p

Definitely a trend reverser :D

I would just like Apple to stop producing iPods and come back to the old
boring computers... It's been like 5 years Powerbooks haven't been
changed significantly. Sorry, but for me it's a shame.

I would just like Apple to stop producing iPods and come back to the old
boring computers... It's been like 5 years Powerbooks haven't been
changed significantly. Sorry, but for me it's a shame.

I agree (partly) :)

The new powerbooks don't impress me, I'd prefer something that looked more like the good old Pismo G3 PB, nice and sturdy, and doesn't feel like it will break when you touch it.

As for the desktops; they have not changed much since the first blue/white G3; they look cooler but thankfully remain pretty much untouched.

There was something to say for the good old 6 color imacs, they really brought Apple back on the map; the new all-white machines don't impress me, Apple used to be a company of colors, now white is the new color I guess.

There was something to say for the good old 6 color imacs, they really brought Apple back on the map; the new all-white machines don't impress me, Apple used to be a company of colors, now white is the new color I guess.

It's not about the color my friend, it's about what's (or not) inside.
I know they've been suffering because Moto that, IBM that, blah, blah.
But the display and graphic chip in a $3K Powerbook is much worse
than that in $250 PSP. Enough said.


Remember Palm? That was a company with one product. Everyone had one.
Where are they now? Apple is the one product company now.
Where will Apple be in... ?

My husband is an absolute keeper...he got me an IPOD Nano as a surprise gift, the black one which is absolutely not available in a lot of places and he had them inscribe a line ( he had written the same line on a book he had given me the first time he had given me something) in the back. Apparently, he had ordered it even before it was released so we were one of the first to get it...

I love it, it is so small and looks beautiful and I can go on and on and on...

My husband is an absolute keeper...he got me an IPOD Nano as a surprise gift, the black one which is absolutely not available in a lot of places and he had them inscribe a line ( he had written the same line on a book he had given me the first time he had given me something) in the back. Apparently, he had ordered it even before it was released so we were one of the first to get it...

I love it, it is so small and looks beautiful and I can go on and on and on...

You do know it plays music too, right?

I would just like Apple to stop producing iPods and come back to the old
boring computers... It's been like 5 years Powerbooks haven't been
changed significantly. Sorry, but for me it's a shame.

I think that maybe they have figured out that they can make more money doing the iPods. Of course, that is if I could get a stinking Nano. I tried 4 stores in Spokane, nadda.

I think that maybe they have figured out that they can make more money doing the iPods. Of course, that is if I could get a stinking Nano. I tried 4 stores in Spokane, nadda.

After going to all the Apple stores in San Jose and Palo Alto I ordered mine from the Apple online store last Wednesday. It arrived this morning. I still can't believe I actually broke down and bought my first iPod. But it's been a great, unproductive day so far :D
Just order it online.

I'm also a former IPOD n00b....that is until I received a letter from Citibank to pickup my free IPOD shuffle. Took me less than 5 mins to trade up to a Nano.

You do know it plays music too, right?

lol...yes I do...but then I thought you knew it too, that is why I did not bother mentioning it...

D.

Just order it online.

Most of the online places aren't shipping right away either and even those that say they are, I am skepitical, since Apple themselves say 1-2 weeks.

I guess we are lucky in Australia, I got mine the day after I ordered it. Quite a suprise since the Apple site was quoting lead times of at least a week :). Black is a nice change from my Silver mini.

Most of the online places aren't shipping right away either and even those that say they are, I am skepitical, since Apple themselves say 1-2 weeks.

Agreed. The Apple online store said the same for me but shipped within 3 days. And that was personalized (engraved). Shipping itself took another 4 days (Shenzen, Alaska, Tennessee, California).

Had you ordered 3 days ago instead of driving all over Spokane it would have been almost here :D :D :D

Had you ordered 3 days ago instead of driving all over Spokane it would have been almost here :D :D :D

Well, some of us FTers actually have to travel. :) I just got home and have to leave again on Sunday. So, I wouldn't get it until another week when I got home again.

My wife hasnt opened up her package with the shuffle yet and now wants a Nano ;)

One concern, is there any way to get these to sync with Firewire? Any adaptor or anything. Her Mac doesnt have USB2. Mine on the other hand probably does ;)

Another thought, she has a busted first generation mini under extended warranty. Any ideas on what they will replace that with if I take it in?

Another thought, she has a busted first generation mini under extended warranty. Any ideas on what they will replace that with if I take it in?

There's still plenty of minis. They're the only ones with 6gb so far.

My wife hasnt opened up her package with the shuffle yet and now wants a Nano ;)

One concern, is there any way to get these to sync with Firewire? Any adaptor or anything. Her Mac doesnt have USB2. Mine on the other hand probably does ;)

Another thought, she has a busted first generation mini under extended warranty. Any ideas on what they will replace that with if I take it in?

You are a gadget freak! And you make your wife one...

I want my frikkin nanotubes. My nano looks like crap already :(

Yes, but can you use it with a firewire? Can the dock use a firewire or does someone make either a firewire to USB2 adapter or a USB2 PC card that will work with a Mac?

Yes, but can you use it with a firewire? Can the dock use a firewire or does someone make either a firewire to USB2 adapter or a USB2 PC card that will work with a Mac?

Sync cables and other dock-connector accessories

The iPod nano uses the same dock connector port as the iPod mini and full-size iPod models, but the nano’s sync functionality differs in one significant way: Although it can both sync with your computer and charge via a USB connection, when connected via FireWire the nano charges but doesn't sync. So FireWire-based dock connector cables and other “docking” accessories that connect to your computer via FireWire will not be able to sync your iPod nano with iTunes. This is a shame, considering that FireWire 400 is faster than USB 2.0. It’s also particularly disappointing for owners of older Macintosh computers, many of which have FireWire ports but no USB 2.0 ports—their USB ports are of the slower 1.1 spec.

http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2005/09/ipodnanoaccessories/index.php

http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2005/09/ipodnanoaccessories/index.php


Thanks ScottC.

Thanks for nothing Apple. :(

I want my frikkin nanotubes. My nano looks like crap already :(

I got some skins at Decal Girl and some screen protectors. I'm waiting for the lanyard headphones and nanotubes.

I got some skins at Decal Girl and some screen protectors. I'm waiting for the lanyard headphones and nanotubes.

How did you apply the skins? I bought an extra to play with. I'm glad I did because once you remove one it becomes unusable.

The best results I've had so far is to take the box the nano came in, cut off the lid that held the nano, remove the paper from the back exposing the hole the nano sat it.

There is now a hole all the way through the box. One side fits the nano perfectly, the other is a bit larger.

I covered the "perfect fit" side with a piece of cardboard.

I now take a skin, remove the adhesive, and place it adhesive side up in the hole in the box.

I now take the nano and drop it on top of the skin and everything lines up perfectly.

One caveat is if you are using a clear skin the result is slightly opaque because of the bits of air trapped underneath.

Remember to peel the paper away from the decal and not the decal away from the paper or the decal will curl.

and Scott, the Displex worked fairly well. My nano still looks pretty fresh. Perhaps I need to practive with the Displex a bit more.

How did you apply the skins? I bought an extra to play with. I'm glad I did because once you remove one it becomes unusable.

I also bought two skins, one to mangle with my thick, stubby fingers while squinting fiercely, the other for my wife to apply perfectly in less than three minutes.

The best results I've had so far is to take the box the nano came in, cut off the lid that held the nano, remove the paper from the back exposing the hole the nano sat it.

There is now a hole all the way through the box. One side fits the nano perfectly, the other is a bit larger.

I covered the "perfect fit" side with a piece of cardboard.

I now take a skin, remove the adhesive, and place it adhesive side up in the hole in the box.

I now take the nano and drop it on top of the skin and everything lines up perfectly.


Genius! ^ ^ I'm glad I kept the box. Now I have a skin applicator.

and Scott, the Displex worked fairly well. My nano still looks pretty fresh. Perhaps I need to practive with the Displex a bit more.

A lot of the result depends on what you use to apply it with. I'm using a fairly thick lint free car polish cloth. You need something that doesn't absorb the polish too much yet can withstand the pressure.

Just came across this today ... may be of interest? regarding scratching of the screen ...

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/09/25/1315224&from=rss

I don't have Nano myself. I've been reading this thread to keep up with the trend. :)

Just happened to stumble into this site (flawedmusicplayer.com) that took me to: http://homepage.mac.com/matthewdotcom/flaw/

With the polularity of Nano, thought this may shed a different light.

Ipod fanboys are the best! They don't really care about specs or features all they truly care about are the scratched surfaces of their Ipods! I guess it shows the Ipod really is more of a fashion statement than anything else.

I love walking around NYC and seeing people hold their ipods out in front of them as they manipulate the click wheel, whilst I simply have my hand in my pocket and navigate my DAP with the joystick interface. I don't care about scratches and who see what type of player I listen to.

Hey! Why is your hand in your pocket all the time and why do you smile so much!?! :D

Ipod fanboys are the best! They don't really care about specs or features all they truly care about are the scratched surfaces of their Ipods! I guess it shows the Ipod really is more of a fashion statement than anything else.

I love walking around NYC and seeing people hold their ipods out in front of them as they manipulate the click wheel, whilst I simply have my hand in my pocket and navigate my DAP with the joystick interface. I don't care about scratches and who see what type of player I listen to.

Hey! Why is your hand in your pocket all the time and why do you smile so much!?! :D

There are so many cases where "specs" dont cover the whole story. The software integration really is the issue with IPODs as far as performance. And fashion, of course. Look at Rolex for example.

I guess it shows the Ipod really is more of a fashion statement than anything else.
Does anyone detect a ... does anyone detect a ... does anyone detect a stuck record here? :rolleyes:

Apple fanboys the best? Naaahhh....

I prefer people that use an obscure brand that sells no more than 1000 a year in the us, who all claim that THEIR player is sooo much better than Apple. Oh, and thay they will get ID3 tag support sooner or later :D

I've been through every brand there is. And nothing beats an ipod.

I don't have Nano myself. I've been reading this thread to keep up with the trend. :)

Just happened to stumble into this site (flawedmusicplayer.com) that took me to: http://homepage.mac.com/matthewdotcom/flaw/

With the polularity of Nano, thought this may shed a different light.

Mine has scratches. I decided over the weekend to use a big piece of clear packing tape to cover the front and back. I can hardly tell that it's taped up. No air bubbles.

I think it's the color screen that has made me care about the scratches. My old B+W ipod had tons of scratches (and dents), but they didn't bother me at all.

There are so many cases where "specs" dont cover the whole story. The software integration really is the issue with IPODs as far as performance. And fashion, of course. Look at Rolex for example.

Rolex is a good timepiece but it is so overhyped,overrated and overpriced. The best thing about owning a Rolex is that you can be sure some sap is going to pay you used close to what you paid for it new. Very liquid secondary market for Rolex. Goes to prove that image is everything. Sort of like Ipods!

Rolex is a good timepiece but it is so overhyped,overrated and overpriced. The best thing about owning a Rolex is that you can be sure some sap is going to pay you used close to what you paid for it new. Very liquid secondary market for Rolex. Goes to prove that image is everything. Sort of like Ipods!

Except that people pay $5000 for a Rolex.

Does anyone detect a ... does anyone detect a ... does anyone detect a stuck record here? :rolleyes:

Relax fanboy, Only poking fun at the way Ipoders gush at the cosmetics of an ipod. Take a survey and I bet you the #1 reason the average owner likes their Ipod is because of "the looK".
:D

Except that people pay $5000 for a Rolex.

Heck add up the numerous must have accessories and the cost of $1 per download itunes and u darn well will get close to $5000!

Rolex is a good timepiece but it is so overhyped,overrated and overpriced. The best thing about owning a Rolex is that you can be sure some sap is going to pay you used close to what you paid for it new. Very liquid secondary market for Rolex. Goes to prove that image is everything. Sort of like Ipods!

The integration in IPODs and ease of use makes them better than the competition. Does the cool factor add to the price, sure, like with Rolex, or BMW or Mercedes or dozens of others. But the IPOD is different in that it is better than the competition. I have a drawer full of digital music players. My IPOD is in my backpack and my wifes is in her purse. Because they are a LOT easier to use. And I would pay a LOT more for that relative ease of use than Apple charges for it. Without even thinking about it. Like ScottC said, when you are buying a Rolex you are laying out 5 large. These things are a couple hundred.

Apple fanboys the best? Naaahhh....

I prefer people that use an obscure brand that sells no more than 1000 a year in the us, who all claim that THEIR player is sooo much better than Apple. Oh, and thay they will get ID3 tag support sooner or later :D

I've been through every brand there is. And nothing beats an ipod.

I don't think my DAP is simply better than Ipod I think it is THE BEST DAP on the market. Can I help it that the masses are ignorant? ID3 tags are overrated too. I much prefer the file tree system. I took a bite of the old Apple a while ago. I just didn't like the taste for what they were charging me. A $5 steak is awesome for $3 but don't try and sell it to me for $20!!

Your right, nothing beats an Ipod FANBOY, you can always count on them!! ;)

Ipod fanboys are the best! They don't really care about specs or features all they truly care about are the scratched surfaces of their Ipods! I guess it shows the Ipod really is more of a fashion statement than anything else.

I love walking around NYC and seeing people hold their ipods out in front of them as they manipulate the click wheel, whilst I simply have my hand in my pocket and navigate my DAP with the joystick interface. I don't care about scratches and who see what type of player I listen to.

Hey! Why is your hand in your pocket all the time and why do you smile so much!?! :D
How do you navigate with it in your pocket? How do you choose a song?

Heck add up the numerous must have accessories and the cost of $1 per download itunes and u darn well will get close to $5000!

Well, at least I can get accessories. Last time I needed something for my iriver, Rio (now gone of course), mobiblu or other brand I couldn't find anything.

I can walk into any decent electronics store nowadays and buy one of 100 cases, remotes, fm transmitters or other stuff.

How do you navigate with it in your pocket? How do you choose a song?

He has a very special player. 20 gigs of solid state memory, 200 hours battery life. Great specs but the software interface is so lousy he only has the demo song that came with the player on the system. How hard is it to pick one song in your pocket.

The integration in IPODs and ease of use makes them better than the competition. Does the cool factor add to the price, sure, like with Rolex, or BMW or Mercedes or dozens of others. But the IPOD is different in that it is better than the competition. I have a drawer full of digital music players. My IPOD is in my backpack and my wifes is in her purse. Because they are a LOT easier to use. And I would pay a LOT more for that relative ease of use than Apple charges for it. Without even thinking about it. Like ScottC said, when you are buying a Rolex you are laying out 5 large. These things are a couple hundred.


Some folks needs are relatively simple. I just need UMS and a quality player that is small enough to place in my pocket and with a replaceable battery. The rest of that Itunes integration stuff I don't need. I buy my music for $1 an album encoded @ 192kbp or better.

How do you navigate with it in your pocket? How do you choose a song?

My DAP(iaudio/cowon G3) has a 5 way joystick, so it is just a matter of memorizing which direction of the joystick corresponds with what function.

Some people swear by the click wheel but I have never been a fan of the touch sensitive controller. I admit it is a nifty way to navigate but it just does not suit me.

Well, at least I can get accessories. Last time I needed something for my iriver, Rio (now gone of course), mobiblu or other brand I couldn't find anything.

I can walk into any decent electronics store nowadays and buy one of 100 cases, remotes, fm transmitters or other stuff.


I really can't think of any accessories that I need for my DAp that were not laready provided. I already have a home stereo. My DAP came with a Duracell AA battery, protective case, 2 screen covers, a lanyard, an armband, a line-in for recording to another device, usb plug for data transfer, and a decent pair of headphones. The player already has FM radio a mic and voice recording. I simply added my own canalphones and a pair of Sony portable speakers with a built in amp. I use my DAP for exercising or traveling

Like I said my needs are simple.

My DAP(iaudio/cowon G3) has a 5 way joystick, so it is just a matter of memorizing which direction of the joystick corresponds with what function.

Some people swear by the click wheel but I have never been a fan of the touch sensitive controller. I admit it is a nifty way to navigate but it just does not suit me.
So you have all your music memorized, and can choose songs by feel? That's incredible. Unless you really do have one song. I mean, I can see skip forward, skip back, and pause, but you can do all that with an ipod in you pocket. If you need to remove the Ipod from your pocket, you probably need the screen.

I think the anti-ipod backlash is quite funny. It's become quite trendy among some to hate ipods. It seems like the ipod-haters are as fanatic as the ipod-lovers.

Except that people pay $5000 for a Rolex.

Jerry on Nanjing Lu in Shanghai sold them to me for $20...3 for $50. I gave one to the paperboy.

So you have all your music memorized, and can choose songs by feel? That's incredible. Unless you really do have one song. I mean, I can see skip forward, skip back, and pause, but you can do all that with an ipod in you pocket. If you need to remove the Ipod from your pocket, you probably need the screen.

I think the anti-ipod backlash is quite funny. It's become quite trendy among some to hate ipods. It seems like the ipod-haters are as fanatic as the ipod-lovers.


I said Rolex, not Bolex! :D

Apple Will Replace Damaged iPod Nano Screens
By NICK WINGFIELD
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
September 28, 2005

Apple Computer Inc., responding to complaints from users of its sleek new iPod nano music player, said it will replace defective screens that cracked too easily on the devices.

...

Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said a "vendor quality problem" caused cracking on a small number of iPod nano screens, affecting "less than one-tenth of 1%" of the devices Apple has shipped. Apple's iPod nano warranty will cover devices with cracked screens, he said.

Relax fanboy
... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck record? :rolleyes:

On the topic of nano skins, has anybody tried the Brando UltraClear screen protector? It's described as:

"iPod nano (2pcs, Front + Back Protection)"

http://shop.brando.com.hk/ultraclearscreenprotector.php

I have ordered it in the hope that it provides a clear protector that showcases the nano's beauty but protects it like the designer skins that seem popular.

So you have all your music memorized, and can choose songs by feel? That's incredible. Unless you really do have one song. I mean, I can see skip forward, skip back, and pause, but you can do all that with an ipod in you pocket. If you need to remove the Ipod from your pocket, you probably need the screen.

I think the anti-ipod backlash is quite funny. It's become quite trendy among some to hate ipods. It seems like the ipod-haters are as fanatic as the ipod-lovers.


Actually I do have my music memorized. My DAP uses a file tree system so I know exactly what order my folders/albums are in.

Who said anything about being hating or anti-ipod? I used to own one, played with it for a while and gave it to my father as a gift. It just did not suit my needs.

... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck ... stuck record? :rolleyes:


ipod fanboy. . .fanboy. . .fanboy. . .fanboy. . .fanboy. . .

"Oh no Lord! Please no! My ipod is scratched!!!"

LOL!!! ^

good corporate stewardship

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?home&NewsID=12741

having had the nano a bit, (no screen scratches here, must be in that 99% group!)

from a design standpoint, I dont like having the headphone plug on the bottom, since if you DO want to put it in your pocket you have to put it in HEAD first making it a sightly tighter fit and/or possible comes in contact with something in the bottom of the pocket.

The wait is killing me!

Based on all the hype here, I bought a nano - via apple.ca since nobody had one in stock.

My Nano is coming via a slow boat from Shenzhen! Wish I had gone directly to Apple as they now have them in stock.

The wait is killing me!

Based on all the hype here, I bought a nano - via apple.ca since nobody had one in stock.

My Nano is coming via a slow boat from Shenzhen! Wish I had gone directly to Apple as they now have them in stock.

They go by air to Canada, so you should have it pretty soon. At least when you buy it over the Web you have the option of getting it personalized for free. For some that's worth the extra couple of days' wait.

enjoy it when it arrives!

There are some many complaints that I have read about the nano now. . . .


http://nanoscratch.com/
http://ipodnanoflaw.com/


I hope that I am not disappointed.

There are some many complaints that I have read about the nano now. . . .


http://nanoscratch.com/
http://ipodnanoflaw.com/


I hope that I am not disappointed.

Apple announced yesterday that a very small fraction of displays may have been affected by these flaws. These units will be eligible for replacement under the existing warranty coverage.

Can anyone tell me if there is aproblem using both a 40Gb 4th Gen iPod with a Nano? I want the Nano for the gym and for the hell of it but want to plug it in to the same PC I have the 40Gb using. I have 12Gb music so want to be able to customise what goes on the Nano but put everything on the 40gb. Ta

Can anyone tell me if there is aproblem using both a 40Gb 4th Gen iPod with a Nano?
I have a 3G iPod, a shuffle and a nano all syncing with the same iTunes. I think this is giving me some DRM problems, but I'll sort it out when I get a round tuit.

if you DO want to put it in your pocket you have to put it in HEAD first making it a sightly tighter fit.

Do you mean the thickness of the screen makes a discernible difference it the way it fits in your pocket?

Um, what kind of pants are these, if I may ask? ;)

Do you mean the thickness of the screen makes a discernible difference it the way it fits in your pocket?

Um, what kind of pants are these, if I may ask? ;)

just that since the cord is on the bottom of the unit, not a good idea to stick it in bottom first as that may lead to the cord snapping off

bummer

I either lost my new Nano, or had it stolen on a recent trip to Italy. :( It even had my name engraved on it, and my business card was with it. The first thought I had when I received it was how tiny it is, and how easy it would be to lose.

Any suggestions for carrying it to keep this from happening?

I either lost my new Nano, or had it stolen on a recent trip to Italy. :( It even had my name engraved on it, and my business card was with it. The first thought I had when I received it was how tiny it is, and how easy it would be to lose.

Any suggestions for carrying it to keep this from happening?

Yes, keep it in your pocket or bag. This way you won't lose it or drop it.

I put them on ALL my products.

http://www.stuffbak.com/stuffBakAdmin/

cheap, easy, I have had stuff returned, NQA, people get a reward. We put it on all our companies phones, LT's, etc. Stuff REALLY comes back.

And, put a password on your phones and LT's of course. The new NANO has a keylock as well. Somebody, nefarious, who cannot get into it, might just return it first.

I was pleasantly surprised to have FedEx deliver my new Nano today – ahead of schedule, BUT I am now wondering if I have a dud  :(

I keep getting an error message “Attempting to copy to the disk iPOD failed. The disk could not be read from or written to.”
After the error message I can start the transfer up again. Music is transferring and will play on my iPod – I don’t know if the problem is on my laptop or iPod.
Has anybody experienced a problem like this before AND any suggestions on how to triage it??

I was pleasantly surprised to have FedEx deliver my new Nano today – ahead of schedule, BUT I am now wondering if I have a dud  :(

I keep getting an error message “Attempting to copy to the disk iPOD failed. The disk could not be read from or written to.”
After the error message I can start the transfer up again. Music is transferring and will play on my iPod – I don’t know if the problem is on my laptop or iPod.
Has anybody experienced a problem like this before AND any suggestions on how to triage it??


Try a different USB port.

I get the same error on 2 other computers.

I will call Apple on Monday and see what the next steps are. The problem of ordering via mail order :(

Anyone tried using the spray you can use to reduce fingerprints on kitchen appliances to the back of the Nano?

Anyone seen a nano tube yet or 3rd party sillicone skin?

Not tried any spray.

Check Ebay as I think I saw loads of silicon covers. I am also sure that Apple are selling 5 packs of silicon covers.

Rich

Anyone tried using the spray you can use to reduce fingerprints on kitchen appliances to the back of the Nano?

Anyone seen a nano tube yet or 3rd party sillicone skin?

I'm tempted to get one of these as a backup harddrive for my camera. It looks like I can get an adapter that will allow access directly to the cameras picture files.

Anyone done this? Any problems looking at high res (12 Mpix) files on the tiny screen?

I get the same error on 2 other computers.

I will call Apple on Monday and see what the next steps are. The problem of ordering via mail order :(

If you're near Toronto, you could bring your iPod in to the Yorkdale Apple Store (http://www.apple.com/ca/retail/yorkdale/week/20050925.html). A Genius there can look at it to determine if it has a problem. Sometimes they're able to exchange it for a new one on the spot. Geniuses are in huge demand, especially on weekends, so it would be best to schedule an appointment, which you can do here (http://genius.apple.com/customer/?store=R120).

I'm not positive about Canadian Tech Support, but at least in the US, Tech Support is open during the weekend, so you may not have to wait until Monday.

Also, Apple's Web support (www.apple.com/support) is considered the best out there. I particularly like the Discussions section, where users offer advice to each other.

I'm tempted to get one of these as a backup harddrive for my camera. It looks like I can get an adapter that will allow access directly to the cameras picture files.

Anyone done this? Any problems looking at high res (12 Mpix) files on the tiny screen?

The camera adapter doesn't work with the nano. We use one with our 60 gig photo and it works for 8mp images just fine.

We have about 6 gigs of storage on our camera, though, so we rarely have to unload while on a trip.

Apple told me to reload the o/s (is that the correct term).

From Apple's website, I downloaded the iPod updater.

http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/

This s/w "formats" the iPod and reloads the o/s. I did it once and have had no problems since!

Has anyone figured out an easy way to import songs from CDs to your library and thus to your IPOD so that you don't get duplicates? I have many CDs of one artist and they often have some of the same songs on them. I find it a pain to sort my library by song title to find the dups.

Has anyone figured out an easy way to import songs from CDs to your library and thus to your IPOD so that you don't get duplicates? I have many CDs of one artist and they often have some of the same songs on them. I find it a pain to sort my library by song title to find the dups.

There is no real way :(

You could always consider using a third-party app like this one:

http://noclone.net/Duplicate_Mp3.asp

Thanks Scott, I'll try that!

Has anyone figured out an easy way to import songs from CDs to your library and thus to your IPOD so that you don't get duplicates? I have many CDs of one artist and they often have some of the same songs on them. I find it a pain to sort my library by song title to find the dups.
If you don't mind doing it semi-manually, in iTunes click Edit->Show Duplicate Songs and it will show you only songs with dupe names.

Suprisingly, I have read no comment on how the IPOD's actually sound which is surely half the point of such a device?

I have a great interest in hi-fi - it is mostly Roksan separates and Acoustic Energy speakers (call me an audiophile, if you will). I have always hated all personal stereos, MP3's when I first listened to recordings three or four years ago certainly seemed to be 'missing energy and enthusiasm' unless sampled at at least 256KBps. However still not a patch on my vinyl collection, or even some good CD's.

Consequently, I would imagine the algorithms have improved over the last few years.

Technicalities aside, how does the IPOD Nano sound?

I would imagine the given headphones are not the best things to use (I have a nice pair of Grado headphones instead).

[QUOTE=flyclub]Suprisingly, I have read no comment on how the IPOD's actually sound which is surely half the point of such a device?

QUOTE]
I listen to mine (Nano, 60gb photo and 20gb regular) mostly two ways. First in the car through a tape deck adaptor (BMW sound with harmon/kardon branded upgrade). But most of the listening is done with the Shure ec5 headphones.

Sound quality is totally dependant on the file encoding and bit rate rate. Personally when I "rip" from CD I use apple's lossless codec. I used to use MP3 at a very high bit rate because of compatablilty with other devices, but most things support apples codec now or I can transcode later.

here is the order of sound quality:
songsI've ripped in lossless - as good as CD
songsfrom apple's music store - as good as CD
songs I've ripped as high quality MP3
other MP3s at lower bit rates - really tend to sound out of phase some times

At home I use Apple's Airport Express and a toslink cable to send the PCM stream right to my denon amps... It sounds as good as CD or better but I'm not expert. I'm just waiting for SACD or DVD-A ripping and file support...

At home I use Apple's Airport Express and a toslink cable to send the PCM stream right to my denon amps... It sounds as good as CD or better but I'm not expert. I'm just waiting for SACD or DVD-A ripping and file support...Many thanks for that!

I was an early adopter of SACD, especially when the Rolling Stones Back Catalogue was released a few years ago. (SACD is better than DVD-A .... ;) ).

I didn't realise Apple had their own codec which certainly I have not heard and it seems I have done well in waiting until now to buy as I am sure things have improved over the last few years.

Sony's ATRAC4 system as adopted in its Mini-Disc players was years ahead of its time, they did a very a good 'QS' ranger recorder not long ago which was excellent. Consequently I was very tempted by Sony's IPOD equivalent offerings, however the size of the new Nano, plus the integrated display has caused me to seriously think about getting one.

A black one I think......

But non of that kit will do you any good at 35,000 Feet when you want a bit of tunes to chill to! :)

I have a 4th Gen Ipod and if the music is ripped at a good rate and played back through decent headphones then it is superb sound quality considering you have most of your music collection in the palm of your hand.

You can buy some pretty damn fine portable headphone amps if you want to power more than your basic in the ear headphones but I find the iPod drives my E3Cs and QC2s rather well.

I have a great interest in hi-fi - it is mostly Roksan separates and Acoustic Energy speakers (call me an audiophile, if you will). I have always hated all personal stereos, MP3's when I first listened to recordings three or four years ago certainly seemed to be 'missing energy and enthusiasm' unless sampled at at least 256KBps. However still not a patch on my vinyl collection, or even some good CD's.

Don't quite understand what the little dock adapter does, on the Apple website it claims that the nano dock is the same as the mini dock, and it does fit. The dock adapter looks more like it is for the regular ipod...

One of the early published reviews had the same question, they posted Apple's reply (paraphrased):

"The dock adaptor is for FUTURE assessories. You do not need the adapter to charge the iPod Nano."

Many thanks for that!

(SACD is better than DVD-A .... ;) ).......

Ahhh so your one of those. Actually I'm indifferent to the argument for the most part, but I like the pretty menus on DVD-A... Other than that they both sound the same to me :)


I didn't realise Apple had their own codec which certainly I have not heard and it seems I have done well in waiting until now to buy as I am sure things have improved over the last few years.

Its a great codec and is pretty widly supported. Sonos- the system I hope to move to this Christmas- supports them as do some other MP3 players.

Good luck and happy listening!

OK, I usually don't get too excited over new toys. But I love it. Thanks for all you FlyerTalkers for convincing me this was a good idea. Thanks to ScottC for pushing me to the white option (I would have otherwise picked black).

FYI, there are still serious availability issues (I had an ugly incident with CompUSA who was supposed to have one for me) with this but PCMall.com does have them and they ship immediately.

The 200Gb iPod nano:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions/Page_1

:D

The 200Gb iPod nano:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions/Page_1

:D

:D:D
Sick people!

The 200Gb iPod nano:

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ipod_Nano_200gb_Instructions/Page_1

:D
Crazy People. :D :eek:

Has anyone found a good product that is actually the right size that fits over the screen? I ordered some screen protectors from decal somethingorother and they are totally too small! Damnit! I don't really want an adhesive type, still waiting for the tubes, but I need a screen protector! Eek...please help.

OK, I usually don't get too excited over new toys. But I love it
I'm not for Apple because of the hip-bandwagon bit but DAMN that is a fine little toy. However, may I suggest to those who want one, to consider waiting a bit and picking up an iPod Mini instead since it will be discontinued? As Christmas approaches, they should start blowing those things out. I prefer flash devices to hard drives, but the Mini should be a fine little gadget until the next round of gadgets comes out and everything we already have is obsolete. :rolleyes:

I still like my Creative Muvo FM since it has a VG radio section, but I have to admit the controls are a wee bit small. OTOH, it's the size of a small pack of gum and couldn't be easier to use when travelling; it was a lifesaver on a recent trip to Japan. I find these little things all sound pretty much the same, it's the quality of the headphones and the sampling rate that affects the sound the most.

I prefer flash devices to hard drives, but the Mini should be a fine little gadget until the next round of gadgets comes out and everything we already have is obsolete. :rolleyes:
...which I'm afraid is going to be very soon... I copy from tomorrow's Wall Street Journal:

October 6, 2005
Technology

Apple May Unveil New Video iPod During Next Week

By NICK WINGFIELD
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Apple Computer Inc., in a much-anticipated effort to expand its position in digital entertainment, next week is expected to introduce a version of the iPod capable of playing video and to begin selling music videos through its iTunes Music Store, according to people familiar with the matter.

A spokesman for the Cupertino, Calif., company declined to comment on "rumors and speculation."

Apple recently invited media to an event next Wednesday at the California Theater in San Jose, Calif. Apple has remained secretive about the event's nature.

Speculation about an Apple foray into video has been a pastime of high-tech analysts and Apple enthusiast Web sites. This past July, The Wall Street Journal reported that Apple had started discussions with major recording companies about licensing music videos for sale through iTunes at $1.99 each. The report also said Apple had informed some media-industry executives about plans to launch a video iPod.

Apple's video iPod is expected to have a high-quality color screen that is larger than those on standard iPods, though the device is still small enough to fit into the palm of the hand or a pocket, according to people familiar with the matter.

A move into video is a risky bet for Apple that it can parlay the success of the iPod into a category where entertainment companies have yet to widely license their content. Roger Kay, an analyst at the market-research firm Endpoint Technologies Associates, says music videos may appeal to some consumers, but many others would prefer content with a story line such as movies or television shows.

While most popular music is now broadly sold on the Internet, TV shows aren't widely available for purchase, and are likely to remain so because of complicated rights issues. Apple has held discussions with media executives about licensing TV programs, but for now it appears to be concentrating on offering music videos, which it believes to be a natural evolution for a music-centric device like the iPod, people familiar with its plans say. In the past, Apple CEO Steve Jobs has criticized the appeal of watching movies on a small screen.

--Don Clark contributed to this article.

It seems that the video iPod is here.

From the Macrumors front page, during the October 12 event:

- iMac: faster, larger disk, built in iSight. Includes FrontRow (app)
- iPod: 30GB/60GB with Video - realtime decoding of MPEG4 and H.264. 260,000 colors. Video out.
- FrontRow and PhotoBooth Apps.
- 30GB iPod: $299 - 31% thinner than current 20GB; - 60GB iPod: $399.
- New iPods avail next week. Comes with case
- iMac: $1299 for 17" model with 1.5GHz, $1799 for 20" model with 2.1GHz
- iTunes 6 to be released
- Front Row - comes with new iMacs. Lets you enjoy video/music/pictures from sofa. Everything still displayed on iMac screen. iPod-like remote. 6 button remote.
- Photobooth - appears to be slide show application.
- Music Videos. 2000 available to buy. $1.99 each.
- Can "gift" music to other people. Peer reviews and recommendation service.
- Videos have Digital Rights Management built in. Can play on up to 5 computers.
- You will be able to buy TV shows from iTunes Music Store.

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It seems that the video iPod is here.

From the Macrumors front page, during the October 12 event:

won't be out till next week.
but they WILL be black, sweet.

Actually, I find this product much more interesting:

http://www.driveandplay.com

won't be out till next week.
but they WILL be black, sweet.
True, not till next week, but its here.

See also: http://www.stuffmag.co.uk/hotstuffarticle.asp?de_id=594.

Interestingly, Apple allegedly managed to block almost all Mac fora from live updating during the event.

PS And officially (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/)

It seems that the video iPod is here.

From the Macrumors front page, during the October 12 event:
Gotta have a new Imac, an universal dock, an extra apple remote and of course a new 30gb Ipod (cables of course not included).

Apple has got the momentum atm.

True, not till next week, but its here.

See also: http://www.stuffmag.co.uk/hotstuffarticle.asp?de_id=594.

Interestingly, Apple allegedly managed to block almost all Mac fora from live updating during the event.

PS And officially (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/)


yeah, I was at that theatre for a private screening of the "untouchables" a month before it came out ,and there was NO CELL service at all. I think they either are in a hole, or they are using a jammer to keep people from getting service.