RICflyer
Sep 5, 05, 7:02 pm
I just noted that the FLL to EYW route goes to the E70 from the CRJ starting Nov 9. I think this is a good improvement and I gues that US can sell the extra lift during the winter.
US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-2005 America West merger) - E70 Starts Fll - EYW Route
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kennyboy3
Sep 6, 05, 7:12 am
Excellent.
This will sure be better than the days of riding that Beechcraft 1900 on the TPA-EYW route. I used to book through MIA on purpose just so I could ride the Dash 8 instead of that Beechcraft.
I'm so glad the consolidated this all into a single route and gave it a nice plane.
^
This will sure be better than the days of riding that Beechcraft 1900 on the TPA-EYW route. I used to book through MIA on purpose just so I could ride the Dash 8 instead of that Beechcraft.
I'm so glad the consolidated this all into a single route and gave it a nice plane.
^
NeoOfTheCRS
Sep 6, 05, 9:01 am
earlier this year they had an ERJ running the route which was an upgrade from the Beechcraft BUT it was always horribly late for no apparent reason other than groundhandling delays. Terribly frustrating for such a short route in a relatively uncrowded airspace (neither EYW or FLL were PHL!)
jimcfsus
Sep 6, 05, 9:08 am
earlier this year they had an ERJ running the route which was an upgrade from the Beechcraft BUT it was always horribly late for no apparent reason other than groundhandling delays. Terribly frustrating for such a short route in a relatively uncrowded airspace (neither EYW or FLL were PHL!)
True, but doesn't FLL have its own set of problems such as only 1 operational runway for commercial traffic? Isn't that a primary reason why the "mini-hub"/"focus city" at FLL has been scaled back?
True, but doesn't FLL have its own set of problems such as only 1 operational runway for commercial traffic? Isn't that a primary reason why the "mini-hub"/"focus city" at FLL has been scaled back?
JAXPax
Sep 6, 05, 9:36 am
earlier this year they had an ERJ running the route which was an upgrade from the Beechcraft BUT it was always horribly late for no apparent reason other than groundhandling delays. Terribly frustrating for such a short route in a relatively uncrowded airspace (neither EYW or FLL were PHL!)
Actually it's a PSA CRJ. The problems stemmed from FLL congestion, South Florida afternoon t-storms, and the occasional other ground handling delay. The aircraft has been routed DCA-MCO-FLL-EYW-FLL-EYW-FLL-EYW-FLL-MCO-DCA each day.... with turns 30 minutes and under scheduled on most. Once there is one delay, the rest just cascade, and about the second round trip FLL-EYW, the storms start to pop up.
Ground handling at EYW has very rarely caused a delay... they turn CRJs in 15 minutes frequently to try and make up time. FLL congestion and weather causes the problems.
Actually it's a PSA CRJ. The problems stemmed from FLL congestion, South Florida afternoon t-storms, and the occasional other ground handling delay. The aircraft has been routed DCA-MCO-FLL-EYW-FLL-EYW-FLL-EYW-FLL-MCO-DCA each day.... with turns 30 minutes and under scheduled on most. Once there is one delay, the rest just cascade, and about the second round trip FLL-EYW, the storms start to pop up.
Ground handling at EYW has very rarely caused a delay... they turn CRJs in 15 minutes frequently to try and make up time. FLL congestion and weather causes the problems.
JAXPax
Sep 6, 05, 9:38 am
True, but doesn't FLL have its own set of problems such as only 1 operational runway for commercial traffic? Isn't that a primary reason why the "mini-hub"/"focus city" at FLL has been scaled back?
FLL has three runways. They only use one because of the complaints of neighbors. The FAA ordered FLL to reopen the other runways. The best FLL offered was to open, I believe, the intersecting runway for regional jet flights. There's currently a court battle between the FAA and FLL over the runway situation. The airport refuses to utilize all available runways.
FLL has three runways. They only use one because of the complaints of neighbors. The FAA ordered FLL to reopen the other runways. The best FLL offered was to open, I believe, the intersecting runway for regional jet flights. There's currently a court battle between the FAA and FLL over the runway situation. The airport refuses to utilize all available runways.
hscottm
Sep 6, 05, 12:39 pm
FLL has three runways. They only use one because of the complaints of neighbors. The FAA ordered FLL to reopen the other runways. The best FLL offered was to open, I believe, the intersecting runway for regional jet flights. There's currently a court battle between the FAA and FLL over the runway situation. The airport refuses to utilize all available runways.
gonna sound like a wacko here, but FAA should treat runways like they treat slots at controlled airports - use them or lose them.
If FLL will only use runway, take the other 2 off the books (literally). Let them then fight in a few years and pay the big costs with getting them reapproved (and MIA might fit it then).
Maybe with such a spectre hanging over local heads, they would compromise.
[btw for those of you waking up late, EYW = Key West. I had a brain freeze and had to look it up]
gonna sound like a wacko here, but FAA should treat runways like they treat slots at controlled airports - use them or lose them.
If FLL will only use runway, take the other 2 off the books (literally). Let them then fight in a few years and pay the big costs with getting them reapproved (and MIA might fit it then).
Maybe with such a spectre hanging over local heads, they would compromise.
[btw for those of you waking up late, EYW = Key West. I had a brain freeze and had to look it up]
BrokesiliaFlyer
Sep 6, 05, 5:06 pm
JaxPax,
We actually turned a CRJ in 9 minutes last week, had 35 coming off and 22 going on. :P
The flights are very well padded, with an extra 10 minutes of flying time on FLL/EYW and about 6 minutes on EYW/FLL due to the fact that PSA can only fly in/out of EYW via the Duval1 arrival/departure... which unfortunately aims the CRJ right into the heart of the Everglades Thunderstorm Alley. Now if PSA had lifevests on the CRJs, we could fly the air-route that goes straight east of here then straight north to Miami....
the 3PM flight out of EYW is the one to be avoided.... granted its the last connection opp to CLT, that flight is the one that would get hit by weather. Rarely do the 1225P and 545P flts get nailed by weather delays (unless its a prior flight).
We actually turned a CRJ in 9 minutes last week, had 35 coming off and 22 going on. :P
The flights are very well padded, with an extra 10 minutes of flying time on FLL/EYW and about 6 minutes on EYW/FLL due to the fact that PSA can only fly in/out of EYW via the Duval1 arrival/departure... which unfortunately aims the CRJ right into the heart of the Everglades Thunderstorm Alley. Now if PSA had lifevests on the CRJs, we could fly the air-route that goes straight east of here then straight north to Miami....
the 3PM flight out of EYW is the one to be avoided.... granted its the last connection opp to CLT, that flight is the one that would get hit by weather. Rarely do the 1225P and 545P flts get nailed by weather delays (unless its a prior flight).
BrokesiliaFlyer
Sep 6, 05, 5:07 pm
oh, also avoid 881 CLT-FLL. I don't think this flight has ever been on time... this is the 9AM flight. We get more misconnects from this sucker than any other flight. Sometimes 933 PHL-FLL runs late, but its not nearly as bad as 881.
steve64
Sep 6, 05, 8:26 pm
gonna sound like a wacko here, but FAA should treat runways like they treat slots at controlled airports - use them or lose them.
Runways, unlike slots, are tangible assets.
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
The FAA and/or munincipal bonds have already paid for these runways. It's only fair they demand they be put to use.
As for noise complaints, I wonder how many of these neighborhoods were built after the runways. I don't know the specifics of FLL, but it amazes me how many airports are hit by noise restrictions by communities built after the airport; and whose only reason for their growth over the years has been due to said airport located only a few miles away !!
Steve
Runways, unlike slots, are tangible assets.
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
The FAA and/or munincipal bonds have already paid for these runways. It's only fair they demand they be put to use.
As for noise complaints, I wonder how many of these neighborhoods were built after the runways. I don't know the specifics of FLL, but it amazes me how many airports are hit by noise restrictions by communities built after the airport; and whose only reason for their growth over the years has been due to said airport located only a few miles away !!
Steve
GWU ESIA STUDENT
Sep 6, 05, 8:41 pm
Runways, unlike slots, are tangible assets.
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
Pull a Richard Daley/Meigs Field and carve giant Xs all over the runway; that would take them out of action pretty quickly. :p
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
Pull a Richard Daley/Meigs Field and carve giant Xs all over the runway; that would take them out of action pretty quickly. :p
hscottm
Sep 6, 05, 9:40 pm
Runways, unlike slots, are tangible assets.
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
The FAA and/or munincipal bonds have already paid for these runways. It's only fair they demand they be put to use.
As for noise complaints, I wonder how many of these neighborhoods were built after the runways. I don't know the specifics of FLL, but it amazes me how many airports are hit by noise restrictions by communities built after the airport; and whose only reason for their growth over the years has been due to said airport located only a few miles away !!
ok when I said wacko I should have said "informed wacko". I understand about tangible assets (I lecture on them twice a week).
Point is, FAA can decide which runways are usable or not (think about approval process) - also see the followup post about Giant X's. FAA can say "its shut down now, and cant be used for any purpose. think we're bluffing?"
The local residents want the best of both worlds. But everyone has paid for the runways, not just the locals. In fact, with the federal share considered, and the fact that landing fees/etc are used to supplement, the locals have probably paid for less than half.
So FLL decides not to use them and instead "lose them".
What's the FAA gonna do ?? Pack up the runway(s) and move them to another airport :confused:
The FAA and/or munincipal bonds have already paid for these runways. It's only fair they demand they be put to use.
As for noise complaints, I wonder how many of these neighborhoods were built after the runways. I don't know the specifics of FLL, but it amazes me how many airports are hit by noise restrictions by communities built after the airport; and whose only reason for their growth over the years has been due to said airport located only a few miles away !!
ok when I said wacko I should have said "informed wacko". I understand about tangible assets (I lecture on them twice a week).
Point is, FAA can decide which runways are usable or not (think about approval process) - also see the followup post about Giant X's. FAA can say "its shut down now, and cant be used for any purpose. think we're bluffing?"
The local residents want the best of both worlds. But everyone has paid for the runways, not just the locals. In fact, with the federal share considered, and the fact that landing fees/etc are used to supplement, the locals have probably paid for less than half.
chtiet
Sep 7, 05, 1:37 pm
relatively uncrowded airspace (neither EYW or FLL were PHL!)
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JS
Sep 7, 05, 7:01 pm
ok when I said wacko I should have said "informed wacko". I understand about tangible assets (I lecture on them twice a week).
Point is, FAA can decide which runways are usable or not (think about approval process) - also see the followup post about Giant X's. FAA can say "its shut down now, and cant be used for any purpose. think we're bluffing?"
The local residents want the best of both worlds. But everyone has paid for the runways, not just the locals. In fact, with the federal share considered, and the fact that landing fees/etc are used to supplement, the locals have probably paid for less than half.
I don't know of any airport that has a tax on local residents to pay for airport improvements. The locals pay squat yet act like they own it. :mad:
Point is, FAA can decide which runways are usable or not (think about approval process) - also see the followup post about Giant X's. FAA can say "its shut down now, and cant be used for any purpose. think we're bluffing?"
The local residents want the best of both worlds. But everyone has paid for the runways, not just the locals. In fact, with the federal share considered, and the fact that landing fees/etc are used to supplement, the locals have probably paid for less than half.
I don't know of any airport that has a tax on local residents to pay for airport improvements. The locals pay squat yet act like they own it. :mad:
hscottm
Sep 8, 05, 9:05 am
I don't know of any airport that has a tax on local residents to pay for airport improvements. The locals pay squat yet act like they own it. :mad:
this is my point. when I suggest "locals paying for it" I was referring to locals who might be using the airport and paying landing and other airport fees.
lots of tourist traffic to FLL, I woudlnt be surprised that the vast majority of money coming in to their fund is from non-locals.
this is my point. when I suggest "locals paying for it" I was referring to locals who might be using the airport and paying landing and other airport fees.
lots of tourist traffic to FLL, I woudlnt be surprised that the vast majority of money coming in to their fund is from non-locals.
PBIGuy
Sep 8, 05, 11:04 am
I wouldn't say a vast majority is tourist traffic - there are several million people in South Florida and most of the people on my flights are locals or snowbirds.
I know the south runway debate is very complicated and heated, but the local officials will just have weigh the cost of losing some votes from constituents under the flight paths to the loss of business and restrictions of flights at FLL due to delays. The delays are fairly recent in development (past few years) but after a few more years, FLL could earn a bad reputation among the general public - not just the frequent fliers. Just ask anyone if they'd rather fly out of MIA or FLL and the answer will nearly always be FLL. In a few years, people may be driving to PBI to avoid FLL.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
I know the south runway debate is very complicated and heated, but the local officials will just have weigh the cost of losing some votes from constituents under the flight paths to the loss of business and restrictions of flights at FLL due to delays. The delays are fairly recent in development (past few years) but after a few more years, FLL could earn a bad reputation among the general public - not just the frequent fliers. Just ask anyone if they'd rather fly out of MIA or FLL and the answer will nearly always be FLL. In a few years, people may be driving to PBI to avoid FLL.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
JAXPax
Sep 8, 05, 11:07 am
My last flight out of FLL was on Southwest to Jacksonville. We taxied for just over 45 minutes for the 40 minute flight.
Anecdotal evidence is that this is commonplace.
Anecdotal evidence is that this is commonplace.
kinglobjaw
Sep 8, 05, 11:43 am
I agree that on NOV 9,2005 all 3 fll-eyw nonstops are on emb170
but once you check on dec 13 for instance its back to CRJ anybody else want to check on that. maybe emb is for specific day only
Please check on this. anyhow on nov 9 the noon flights is already sold out
guess US Airways Key West service is not so empty afteralll!
but once you check on dec 13 for instance its back to CRJ anybody else want to check on that. maybe emb is for specific day only
Please check on this. anyhow on nov 9 the noon flights is already sold out
guess US Airways Key West service is not so empty afteralll!
MiamiBeach
Sep 8, 05, 11:43 am
... Just ask anyone if they'd rather fly out of MIA or FLL and the answer will nearly always be FLL. In a few years, people may be driving to PBI to avoid FLL.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.Everyone I know in Miami prefers MIA to FLL. I am sure if you live in Broward it's a different story.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.Everyone I know in Miami prefers MIA to FLL. I am sure if you live in Broward it's a different story.
JAXPax
Sep 8, 05, 11:46 am
I agree that on NOV 9,2005 all 3 fll-eyw nonstops are on emb170
but once you check on dec 13 for instance its back to CRJ anybody else want to check on that. maybe emb is for specific day only
Please check on this. anyhow on nov 9 the noon flights is already sold out
guess US Airways Key West service is not so empty afteralll!
Somebody screwed up and loaded the schedule for only November. It'll be fixed this weekend.
but once you check on dec 13 for instance its back to CRJ anybody else want to check on that. maybe emb is for specific day only
Please check on this. anyhow on nov 9 the noon flights is already sold out
guess US Airways Key West service is not so empty afteralll!
Somebody screwed up and loaded the schedule for only November. It'll be fixed this weekend.
dukeman
Sep 8, 05, 12:03 pm
I wonder if the switch to E-70 is cargo related. I flew to EYW on US last month and all the flights were either zeroed out or showing very little availability weeks in advance. Fast forward to the trip and the loads were good (but not full). On my return the flight showed zeros across the board and they were offering bumps which they later decided they didn't need. The CRJ went out with 15 or 20 empty seats. We were told it was a weight issue related to cargo and fuel in/out of EYW. Can anyone shed any light?
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing. ^
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing. ^
JAXPax
Sep 8, 05, 12:09 pm
I wonder if the switch to E-70 is cargo related. I flew to EYW on US last month and all the flights were either zeroed out or showing very little availability weeks in advance. Fast forward to the trip and the loads were good (but not full). On my return the flight showed zeros across the board and they were offering bumps which they later decided they didn't need. The CRJ went out with 15 or 20 empty seats. We were told it was a weight issue related to cargo and fuel in/out of EYW. Can anyone shed any light?
CRJ is a piece of crap off of short runways in hot weather. Couple this with the FAA's raising of minimum passenger weights, bad South Florida weather, extra fuel for holding, etc.
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing.
I'll point that individual toward your post.
CRJ is a piece of crap off of short runways in hot weather. Couple this with the FAA's raising of minimum passenger weights, bad South Florida weather, extra fuel for holding, etc.
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing.
I'll point that individual toward your post.
SOBE ER DOC
Sep 9, 05, 10:28 am
FLL is my home airport and I have learned to NEVER fly in or out between 10am and 5pm. There is just too much congestion (gettng in, getting through and getting out).
What confuses me is that ATC answers to the FAA, not the administration of FLL. If there are continued problems with congestion from solely using the northern east-west runway then the FAA should basically thumb their noses at FLL administration and Broward County and use the crosswinds runway and let this thing play itself out in the courts.
There is, of course, another option. The county could suck it up and finally move to lengthen the southern east-west runway which has been tied up in petty bickering for quite some time. When that runway is extended they could stop using the crosswind runway which was built BEFORE the surrounding neighborhoods. Problem is property values have shot up in the area and people bought after being told by the former owners and real estate agents that airplanes "never" approach over the neighborhood.
What confuses me is that ATC answers to the FAA, not the administration of FLL. If there are continued problems with congestion from solely using the northern east-west runway then the FAA should basically thumb their noses at FLL administration and Broward County and use the crosswinds runway and let this thing play itself out in the courts.
There is, of course, another option. The county could suck it up and finally move to lengthen the southern east-west runway which has been tied up in petty bickering for quite some time. When that runway is extended they could stop using the crosswind runway which was built BEFORE the surrounding neighborhoods. Problem is property values have shot up in the area and people bought after being told by the former owners and real estate agents that airplanes "never" approach over the neighborhood.
BrokesiliaFlyer
Sep 10, 05, 5:06 pm
I wonder if the switch to E-70 is cargo related. I flew to EYW on US last month and all the flights were either zeroed out or showing very little availability weeks in advance. Fast forward to the trip and the loads were good (but not full). On my return the flight showed zeros across the board and they were offering bumps which they later decided they didn't need. The CRJ went out with 15 or 20 empty seats. We were told it was a weight issue related to cargo and fuel in/out of EYW. Can anyone shed any light?
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing. ^
Mr. Dukeman, that was me. I'm the only supervisor here that boards like that. The other sup is in such a hurry all the time (even though we board 30 mins before) he is more like a cattle-car hearder.. doesn't board by zone, even when we're booked to 38 (our max for EYW due to weight).
I train agents to do a preboard (zone 1) and silver/gold and to personally thank each for their business --- if it weren't for you guys we'd be out of business. I also train them to thank everyone if they can, or at least the Dividend Mile members... we *do* appreciate you here!
Mind sending what you just typed to Consumer_affairs@usairways.com ??? We need all the compliments we can harvest -- due to weather we seem to cancel a high # of flights and are inundated with complaints against our station.... we try to be the best we can down here, but sometimes mother nature doesn't agree!
We were nailed with a complaint letter where we did cancel due to weather and the passenger wrote CA demanding we pay for their car rental (we refunded their ticket instead) and hotel in Miami. What made this complaint stand out was that the customer demanded we pay a SPEEDING TICKET received because they were going 20 mph over the speed limit on US 1 in Key Largo!!!!
FWIW, I had the nicest elite boarding in EYW. The CRJ was zone boarded and the GA (who was also one of the TAs) actually sent some zone 3 and 4 people away and then after verifying my zone 1 BP said "Thank you Mr. dukeman for your loyalty, we really appreciate your business." A nice touch which costs US nothing. ^
Mr. Dukeman, that was me. I'm the only supervisor here that boards like that. The other sup is in such a hurry all the time (even though we board 30 mins before) he is more like a cattle-car hearder.. doesn't board by zone, even when we're booked to 38 (our max for EYW due to weight).
I train agents to do a preboard (zone 1) and silver/gold and to personally thank each for their business --- if it weren't for you guys we'd be out of business. I also train them to thank everyone if they can, or at least the Dividend Mile members... we *do* appreciate you here!
Mind sending what you just typed to Consumer_affairs@usairways.com ??? We need all the compliments we can harvest -- due to weather we seem to cancel a high # of flights and are inundated with complaints against our station.... we try to be the best we can down here, but sometimes mother nature doesn't agree!
We were nailed with a complaint letter where we did cancel due to weather and the passenger wrote CA demanding we pay for their car rental (we refunded their ticket instead) and hotel in Miami. What made this complaint stand out was that the customer demanded we pay a SPEEDING TICKET received because they were going 20 mph over the speed limit on US 1 in Key Largo!!!!
US AIRWAYS FAN
Sep 10, 05, 6:42 pm
BrokesiliaFlyer,
Welcome to FT. I see you have been on here a while but I have not. Nice to see more US people here :)
Welcome to FT. I see you have been on here a while but I have not. Nice to see more US people here :)
StSebastian
Sep 10, 05, 11:59 pm
We actually turned a CRJ in 9 minutes last week, had 35 coming off and 22 going on. :P
There was a note in some AA stuff about their staff turning a flight loaded about the same in 3 minutes at EYW -- though I have no idea how they did it that quickly.
As for flights to MIA or FLL, I have to say I've been more pleased with MIA on my trips down that way. FLL is already getting the reputation of significant delays and was rated as the worst major airport in one of the recent FAA monthly stats.
There was a note in some AA stuff about their staff turning a flight loaded about the same in 3 minutes at EYW -- though I have no idea how they did it that quickly.
As for flights to MIA or FLL, I have to say I've been more pleased with MIA on my trips down that way. FLL is already getting the reputation of significant delays and was rated as the worst major airport in one of the recent FAA monthly stats.
GWU ESIA STUDENT
Sep 11, 05, 1:06 pm
We were nailed with a complaint letter where we did cancel due to weather and the passenger wrote CA demanding we pay for their car rental (we refunded their ticket instead) and hotel in Miami. What made this complaint stand out was that the customer demanded we pay a SPEEDING TICKET received because they were going 20 mph over the speed limit on US 1 in Key Largo!!!!
LMAO; what some people will try and pull. :rolleyes:
LMAO; what some people will try and pull. :rolleyes:
sbtinme
Sep 11, 05, 7:58 pm
I train agents to do a preboard (zone 1) and silver/gold and to personally thank each for their business --- if it weren't for you guys we'd be out of business. I also train them to thank everyone if they can, or at least the Dividend Mile members... we *do* appreciate you here!
Brokesilia - Please know how much we very frequent fliers appreciate employees like YOU! It is precisely the front line folks like you who (despite all the significant challenges US threw your way) keep a stiff upper lip and continue to offer courteous, professional service that keeps us loyal to your employer. God knows it hasn't been the fabulous F upgrades for some years now!
In all seriousness, the airline biz was once full of folks like you. You were the standard. These days, that simply is no longer the case. Far too many employees are miserable and it shows. I've heard every excuse and stretched truth in the book over the past 5 years. I, for one, am flying in and out of EYW in early OCT and sure hope we bumb into you so I can shake your hand.
Thanks for all you do for all of us.
Brokesilia - Please know how much we very frequent fliers appreciate employees like YOU! It is precisely the front line folks like you who (despite all the significant challenges US threw your way) keep a stiff upper lip and continue to offer courteous, professional service that keeps us loyal to your employer. God knows it hasn't been the fabulous F upgrades for some years now!
In all seriousness, the airline biz was once full of folks like you. You were the standard. These days, that simply is no longer the case. Far too many employees are miserable and it shows. I've heard every excuse and stretched truth in the book over the past 5 years. I, for one, am flying in and out of EYW in early OCT and sure hope we bumb into you so I can shake your hand.
Thanks for all you do for all of us.
BrokesiliaFlyer
Sep 12, 05, 9:08 am
Actually we just like our jobs and our company.
Key West is like the "anti-Philly" in terms of Express... you WILL get your bags when you land here (FEW exceptions), and you will be checked in with a smile :P
Key West is like the "anti-Philly" in terms of Express... you WILL get your bags when you land here (FEW exceptions), and you will be checked in with a smile :P
CALeeIII
Mar 10, 06, 8:40 am
I saw this mentioned over at airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2645903/)
My Keys spies are saying CLT-EYW, CLT-MTH - E170 Service this fall.
Craig
MKE/EYW
Also, a link to this interesting article (http://www.keysnews.com/296349314149350.bsp.htm) printed this week in the Key West newspaper The Citizen:
Rice would like to see another major carrier add flights to Marathon. The names Delta and American Airlines have been in discussions for at least a year; negotiations are continuing with Delta. A daily direct flight to Atlanta, Ga., or Charlotte, N.C., would round out the airport's offerings.
I would assume this reporter or official meant to include US Airways when referring to a flight to Charlotte.
My Keys spies are saying CLT-EYW, CLT-MTH - E170 Service this fall.
Craig
MKE/EYW
Also, a link to this interesting article (http://www.keysnews.com/296349314149350.bsp.htm) printed this week in the Key West newspaper The Citizen:
Rice would like to see another major carrier add flights to Marathon. The names Delta and American Airlines have been in discussions for at least a year; negotiations are continuing with Delta. A daily direct flight to Atlanta, Ga., or Charlotte, N.C., would round out the airport's offerings.
I would assume this reporter or official meant to include US Airways when referring to a flight to Charlotte.
flywheeler
Mar 12, 06, 8:19 pm
this is my point. when I suggest "locals paying for it" I was referring to locals who might be using the airport and paying landing and other airport fees.
lots of tourist traffic to FLL, I woudlnt be surprised that the vast majority of money coming in to their fund is from non-locals.
I believe virtually all of the money comes from the Feds and tourist taxes, something not unusual in a tourist community. The runway issue is a real political hot potato in Fort Lauderdale. We now have runway 9L-36R as the main runway and 13-31 as the cross runway which is used by airlines only in emergencies or when maintenance is done on the main runway. Several years ago the FAA along with the support of the then county commission developed a plan to extend runway 9R-36L (which is currently used almost exclusively for general aviation traffic). When final approvals were about to be given by our local government, NIMBY (not in my backyard) neighbors appeared and our commissioners IMHO caved to their noise instead of moving along with a project that would have benefited the community as a whole. I would guess that most of those opposing the extension knew they were near an airport runway when they bought their homes and their home prices no doubt reflected their proximity to the airport. Needless to say, the business community has been strong in its support of the runway extension, but businesses don't vote, people do. So our local government is trying to explore other options with the FAA to increase capacity and the runway extension has now been delayed several years. Maybe by the end of this year, there will be a plan. Who knows how long it will take to execute. In the meantime, during mid-day peak periods, in season, there will be delays. So my advice is in the winter fly early in the day to beat the traffic.
lots of tourist traffic to FLL, I woudlnt be surprised that the vast majority of money coming in to their fund is from non-locals.
I believe virtually all of the money comes from the Feds and tourist taxes, something not unusual in a tourist community. The runway issue is a real political hot potato in Fort Lauderdale. We now have runway 9L-36R as the main runway and 13-31 as the cross runway which is used by airlines only in emergencies or when maintenance is done on the main runway. Several years ago the FAA along with the support of the then county commission developed a plan to extend runway 9R-36L (which is currently used almost exclusively for general aviation traffic). When final approvals were about to be given by our local government, NIMBY (not in my backyard) neighbors appeared and our commissioners IMHO caved to their noise instead of moving along with a project that would have benefited the community as a whole. I would guess that most of those opposing the extension knew they were near an airport runway when they bought their homes and their home prices no doubt reflected their proximity to the airport. Needless to say, the business community has been strong in its support of the runway extension, but businesses don't vote, people do. So our local government is trying to explore other options with the FAA to increase capacity and the runway extension has now been delayed several years. Maybe by the end of this year, there will be a plan. Who knows how long it will take to execute. In the meantime, during mid-day peak periods, in season, there will be delays. So my advice is in the winter fly early in the day to beat the traffic.