Hong Kong and Macau - Need HELP choosing hotel - Ritz Carlton, Shangri-la, Conrad or New World Renaissance?




AtomicLush
Aug 24, 05, 4:26 pm
Hi FT'ers. I need help choosing a hotel to stay in during the winter holidays in Hong Kong. (It doesn't matter kowloon or island side.) Here are my choices and the average daily rate that I have been able to obtain for each in US dollars:

Ritz Carlton $265/night

Conrad $237/night

Island Shangri-la $232/night

Kowloon Shangri-la $218/night

New World Renaissance $77/night

I am tempted just to go with the New World Renaissance because it's so cheap compared to the other hotels, but I have heard mixed reviews. The Ritz at under $300 is a good deal too. I'm just not familiar with Hong Kong hotel prices to figure this out...just which one is the best DEAL. Not necessarily the "cheapest" or "least expensive," but best room/service for the price. Any help please? TIA.


rkkwan
Aug 24, 05, 5:57 pm
I don't know how you can compare a 3* hotel with a bunch of 5* and ask which is the best deal. To some people, a 3* is never worth $77. To others, it's criminal to pay 3x as much for a hotel, regardless of service/amenities.

And also consider that on Priceline for $100, one can often get the Sheraton, which is across the street from the Renaissance New World, but is nicer and some rooms have harbour views. Or for $120, one can often get the JWMarriott, which are in the same complex as the Conrad and Island Shangri-La. Are the Conrad/Shan twice as good as the JWMarriott? I don't know.

bobes
Aug 24, 05, 6:20 pm
Wow $120 for the Mariott is a great deal! All three hotels are very good. I would definitely spend the extra 20 a night over the Sheraton.

I've been to the Renaissance and it's not really all that. I'd rather do Kowloon Hotel over it just because of convenience (warning: kowloon hotel has small rooms). But I'm partial to HK Island and would prefer it over Kowloon each and everytime.

It all depends on what you prefer... service, convenience, budget, etc... that will drive your choice on the hotels.


hkguy
Aug 24, 05, 8:12 pm
usually island shangri-la is the most expensive among the 5* trio (conrad & jw marriott) @ pacific place. so $232 per night sounds like a deal. and the location is perfect for tourists.

eutow
Aug 24, 05, 11:04 pm
Out of that list I have only stayed at the Ritz-Carlton, which I think is an excellent hotel - my favourite in HK. The service is very personalised, and I have recommended the hotel to family and friends.

hkguy
Aug 25, 05, 12:38 am
i've not stayed at island shangri-la and new world renaissance.

i would rank the rest as follows:

1. ritz carlton
2. conrad
3. kowloon shangri-la

hawaiiansports
Aug 25, 05, 12:43 am
I suggest the Conrad, especially if you can get upgraded to the Executive Floors.

parnel
Aug 27, 05, 8:20 am
I just finished a four nightstay at the IC Hong Kong and think its a great property. The bar and resaturant are looking out across the harbour in a total glassed in view that is spectaular. The rooms harbour side are just great and the view so nice I didn't pull down the blinds at night.

Its part of a shopping center as well.

pilatusguy
Aug 31, 05, 8:38 am
I just came back from HK. Stayed at the Renaissance Harbour View and the JW Marriot. Would defenately recommend the JW, specially with the prices you get on Priceline

TRAVELSIG
Aug 31, 05, 8:54 am
In terms of ranking the hotels:

1.Island Shangri-la $232/night

2.Ritz Carlton $265/night

3.Kowloon Shangri-la $218/night

4.Conrad $237/night

and a very distant 5th:

New World Renaissance $77/night

I would choose the Island Shangri-la based on the alternatives you have presented- you should be very happy there. Note that other posters have mentioned some other very nice alternatives- also if you are looking to save some $, check out the Hotel Nikko- it is a good 4* choice that typically runs around $100 US.

edcli
Sep 9, 05, 9:42 am
I'd choose either Island or Conrad. You can't go wrong with either. Plus they're over the MTR and Pacific Place. ^

The Ritz isn't as close to the MTR. However, it is walking distance to LKF. So I guess if you priorities is partying then the Ritz wouldn't be so bad. ;)

Shangri-La Kowloon: There was construction in the area last time I visited. Plus I find Kowloon annoying b/c of the street "vendors". I get tired of saying, "No I don't need a fake Rolex, now get out of my way." :mad:

rkkwan
Sep 9, 05, 10:48 am
The Ritz Carlton is right above the Central MTR station on Charter Rd. You need to get out of hotel to get into the station, but the walk from hotel to train is much much shorter than the distance from the Conrad or Island Shangri-La to the MTR train at Admiralty.

edcli
Sep 9, 05, 10:55 am
The Ritz Carlton is right above the Central MTR station on Charter Rd. You need to get out of hotel to get into the station, but the walk from hotel to train is much much shorter than the distance from the Conrad or Island Shangri-La to the MTR train at Admiralty.

Hmmm... I suppose that's true. However, it feels so much more convenient to take the elevator down to Pacific Place and walk through the mall to the MTR. Plus you don't have to worry about getting wet if it rains.

christep
Sep 9, 05, 11:01 am
Shangri-La Kowloon: There was construction in the area last time I visited.Having just returned from a most enjoyable evening in the adjacent Sticky Fingers bar I can confirm that the construction work ended at least a couple of months ago.

rkkwan
Sep 9, 05, 2:08 pm
Hmmm... I suppose that's true. However, it feels so much more convenient to take the elevator down to Pacific Place and walk through the mall to the MTR. Plus you don't have to worry about getting wet if it rains.

True, and I suppose I should add that the walk from the Ritz Carlton is only very very short for the Tuen Wan (Red) Line train towards Kowloon. It's a little bit further if you're taking the Island (Blue) Line for other HK Island destinations.

Braindrain
Sep 10, 05, 12:09 am
My question is: How did you get a $77/night price for the New World Renaissance? :eek:



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