Newsstand - Babies Caught Up in 'No-Fly' Confusion




Peetah
Aug 15, 05, 5:48 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050815/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/no_fly_babies

Babies Caught Up in 'No-Fly' Confusion
By LESLIE MILLER, Associated Press Writer
37 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Infants have been stopped from boarding planes at airports throughout the U.S. because their names are the same as or similar to those of possible terrorists on the government's "no-fly list."

It sounds like a joke, but it's not funny to parents who miss flights while scrambling to have babies' passports and other documents faxed.

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FWAAA
Aug 15, 05, 5:59 pm
Clark said even with the problems the lists are essential to keeping airline passengers safe.

Yolanda Clark has sold out to al Qaeda, pure and simple. :td:

She's become a foot soldier in the War on Americans, waged by our enemies.

L Dude 7
Aug 15, 05, 6:10 pm
And the whole system depends on matching names. Osama Bin Laden could walk through security with a fake ID showing "Osama bin Leyton" and nothing in the security system would catch it... He could probably even use his own ID, and just mispell the name sufficiently on the ticket to not match the name on the 'list'.


Rejuvenated
Aug 15, 05, 9:05 pm
Paranoia is so contagious! Once it hit's your nerve or your senses, who knows how far or extreme it can go. :rolleyes:

Wally Bird
Aug 16, 05, 10:06 am
TSA spokeswoman Yolanda Clark said even with the problems the lists are essential to keeping airline passengers safe.Safe from whom or what, Yolanda ?
Do you really think the bad guys are going to travel under their real names ?
How many actual terrorists have been caught by your list(s), Yolanda ?

How do you know when a TSA spokesperson is lying....

michaelchertoff
Aug 16, 05, 10:24 am
Safe from whom or what, Yolanda ?
Do you really think the bad guys are going to travel under their real names ?
How many actual terrorists have been caught by your list(s), Yolanda ?

How do you know when a TSA spokesperson is lying....

How do you know when an amateur is commenting on things they have minimal actual knowledge about....

Just visit this thread.

L Dude 7
Aug 16, 05, 10:30 am
Safe from whom or what, Yolanda ?
Do you really think the bad guys are going to travel under their real names ?
How many actual terrorists have been caught by your list(s), Yolanda ?


Its a trick to catch less-than-bright terrorists. (Somewhat like the old questions that used to be asked at the airport: Did anybody unknown to you give you something to carry? Have your bags been with you? Are you carrying a bomb with intention to blow up the airplane?)

Wally Bird
Aug 16, 05, 10:58 am
How do you know when an amateur is commenting on things they have minimal actual knowledge about....

Just visit this thread.Answer the question. How many ?

MisterNice
Aug 16, 05, 1:01 pm
I fell so much safer now that this 1 year old "sleeper terrorist" is banned from flying. I think they should ban all 1 year olds from all aircraft. <g>

MisterNice

OrlandoFlyer
Aug 16, 05, 1:56 pm
Let's go a little further and ban all children up to 3 years old. That should keep the TSA busy.

Spiff
Aug 16, 05, 2:15 pm
Answer the question. How many ?

Zero. Point. Zero.

Rejuvenated
Aug 16, 05, 5:47 pm
Let's go a little further and ban all children up to 3 years old. That should keep the TSA busy.
........or ban all infants under 5 or as a matter of fact ban all children. When will these bureaucrats wake up and smell the coffee? :rolleyes:

MisterNice
Aug 17, 05, 7:18 am
Thanks. I see your point regarding airborne children and I should ammend my previous post.

I now propose they ban all pre-puberty people, all dogs cats and snakes.

MisterNice

michaelchertoff
Aug 17, 05, 12:07 pm
Answer the question. How many ?

I have absolutely no idea. What I do know is that the list is part of a multilayered approah to security that eliminates most weak points in the system.

In any system in which even a single breach can be a catastrophic failure, it will take time to smooth out the number of false positives.. a process which is ongoing.

Those however, who put their own principles ablove the safety of others will find this answer to be inadequate to their political beliefs, which I may emphasize, are entirely political and based upon zero understanding of the requirements of a secure system.

tazi
Aug 17, 05, 3:53 pm
I have absolutely no idea.

Exactly!

GUWonder
Aug 17, 05, 4:07 pm
I have absolutely no idea. What I do know is that the list is part of a multilayered approah to security that eliminates most weak points in the system.

In any system in which even a single breach can be a catastrophic failure, it will take time to smooth out the number of false positives.. a process which is ongoing.

Those however, who put their own principles ablove the safety of others will find this answer to be inadequate to their political beliefs, which I may emphasize, are entirely political and based upon zero understanding of the requirements of a secure system.

Your first sentence above (in the first/lead paragraph) said it well. The rest of the above that follows said sentence may best be described as mostly fluff/hyperbole.



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