Trip Reports - Dom Perignon & Caviar Diet (AKA SQ to Asia)




peter11
Jul 31, 05, 2:02 am
The Dom Perignon & Caviar Diet (AKA SQ to Asia)


I used to travel a lot but have not had time to lately. This summer, though, I had an opportunity to get away for a couple of weeks. I thought it a good time to cash in some UA miles for a ticket to Asia on SQ. You have to love that “Star Alliance”! I was lucky in that I fairly easily found F award space from LAX to BKK, a feat that is not always so easily accomplished. I even changed my reservation a few weeks before departure and again was able to obtain a seat! So, for the whopping sum of 120,000 miles and $32 in taxes, I was off.

My flight from SBA to LAX was uneventful and short. I had a long layover in LAX before my 2:30 departure on SQ11. So, instead of heading over to the international terminal right away, I hung out in the UA International F lounge. This is actually a very good lounge with an entire wall of floor to ceiling windows overlooking the ramp area and part of a runway. Food offerings are what you would expect from UA (Sandwiches, cheeses, fruits, full bar, cookies and other sweets) but nothing spectacular. I asked about WIFI access and they said that they did not have it yet, but quickly added they had a new TV in the lounge! About 2 hours before my flight I walked down to the Tom Bradley International Terminal to check in for the SQ flight. The check in was smooth except that the agent was concerned that I had been ticketed as two segments (LAX-NRT and NRT-SIN). Apparently, since the flight number stays the same for both segments, you typically have one boarding pass. After a brief discussion with a colleague she decided it was okay and issued the two boarding cards (plus the card for my BKK flight two days later) and was given directions to the SQ lounge. I had read that the SQ lounge was nothing special, and I have to agree. SQ does great in the air (as you will see) but the lounges I visited on this trip were not so great. I suppose it can be attributed to the fact that SQ only has a couple of flights a day from LAX. For UA, of course, it is a hub so their lounge is nicer. The SQ lounge does have WIFI though and the staff was quite pleasant. The woman at the front desk was able to confirm that my bags had not only been transferred from UA successfully but that they were in fact already boarded on my flight. After some small chitchat she said I should keep an eye out for her in BKK as she would be coming the next day!

Nothing could quite prepare me for the sight of the interior of SQ’s first class cabin on the 747. I had seen pictures, even the virtual reality tour on the SQ website. I have to say though that siting down in row 2 with five windows at my side is a very nice experience. The cabin was further enhanced by the fantastic crew as well as the fact that only only two other passengers would join me. As I entered the aircraft I was immediately escorted to my seat and helped stowing my bag. I was always addressed by name, and the service was non-stop (newspapers and magazines, headsets, slippers and eyeshades, pajamas, Bvlgari amenity kit). I was asked if I would like a drink before departure. I said sure, how about some champagne. Then came that question that SQ attendants love to ask. They say it with a little coy smile too. Mr. Peter11 would you prefer Dom Perignon or Krug? That’s like asking would you like a Rolls Royce, or a Rolls Royce! I opted from the Dom, which I am now thoroughly addicted to. Between two of us (that were drinking in F) we finished off that first bottle before takeoff!

Shortly after our takeoff, the Dom reappeared along with a bowl of warm cashews and macadamia nuts. About 25 minutes into the flight I looked out the window and saw my house! Yea, we literally flew right over SBA . After we finished our cocktails we began our 8-course dinner. The menu is (See post number 32). MENU LINK (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425795&page=1&pp=15 ) Basically the menu consists of Caviar (I had two servings), Soup, Salad, Entrée, Cheese, Fruit, Dessert, Chocolates. I never could make it though all the courses. SQ has a service called Book The Cook (BTC) where you can preorder your entree. You may still choose from the regular menu too (unless they run out of something). I had ordered the Lobster Thermidor which was excellent. I had to skip the salad, cheese, fruit and the final chocolates (though they all looked great) because I was, um, full of Dom Perignon!

After dinner I flipped on the entertainment system, and checked out the language courses offered. Yea, that’s right SQ has Berlitz language courses as part of the IFE system. I now speak Mandarin! Well, only sort of I guess. I tried it out on someone after the flight and they said it was pretty good, but my accent sounded like I had been drinking! Hmmmm…..note to self: Do not take language course and drink champagne at the same time!

I was feeling a bit tired after my studies so I put on the pajamas while the attendant made up my bed. I came back and settled in for a few hours of rest. The beds are very comfortable and for once I actually really slept on an airplane. I woke up after a few hours and decided to watch a movie, Million Dollar Baby. My eyes had been kind dry and irritated before the movie. Well, if you have seen that movie you know, dry eyes were not a problem after it was over! I spent the next couple of hours chatting with one of the crew, a very charming attendant from KUL. Although the other two passengers will still sleeping it was time for the second meal. I was still full from the first one! The attendant egged me on though so I ate a couple of the courses. It was delicious but I was very full.

After landing at NRT I decided to sprint down to the UA F lounge for a shower. It’s about a 10-minute very brisk walk. I had read that it was a nice facility and, wow, is it ever. It is a two-story lounge with the RCC on the lower level and the F lounge above. The F area is very nicely set up, decorated less like an airline lounge and more like a five star hotel. Food offerings were similar to LAX with some sushi and noodles added. The shower suites are excellent, with a big granite shower (4 foot by 5 foot), toilet and sink. UA has thoughtfully included a full amenity kit of Crabtree & Evelyn products (shampoo, conditioner, soap, lotion, bath gel, toothbrush, tooth paste, razor and shaving cream, q-tips) all in a small zippered bag to take along. After a relaxing shower I headed back to the SQ lounge. As I arrived, there was a ground staff person who was looking for me. She wanted to give me a new boarding pass (something to do with that issue at LAX with being booked for two segments). The lounge staff allowed us to relax until the very last minute when we were told it was time to board. We went downstairs to find no less than 15 (probably more like 20) ground staff people waiting for us. We were thanked over and over again, bowed to and sent off like we were VIP’s or something. It was quite a sight.

Once again, more Dom, more caviar and yet another huge meal enroute to SIN. Actually, this one had an extra course, SQ’s signature Satay with peanut sauce. After a couple of servings of Satay, and the caviar, I told the attendant I only wanted my entrée and I would skip the rest of the courses. The full menu is hereHERE ( http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425795&page=1&pp=15) (See post 39) . I had ordered the Beef Sukiyaki which was excellent. Then, I enjoyed the ultimate luxury of flying in F; I slept for the rest of the flight.

Once we landed I made my way to the transit hotel in terminal 1 (terminal 2 hotel was full). For those of you who do not know at the Changi airport they have two hotels within the departure lounge (airside). There is no need to clear immigration. They are quite reasonable (around $35 for a block of six hours). My wakeup call came all too early but I was excited to get to BKK. I first went to the lounge, and this being SQ’s hub, it was very nice. It lacks a view, but the food and bar offerings are top notch. Moreover, it was perfect hangover food! Well, I am joking (sort of) about the hangover. That morning they were offering Laksa, which I had never had before. My memory is a bit fuzzy but it was a noodle soup made with a coconut broth. Just what the doctor would have ordered!

My flight to BKK would only be about 2 hours on a 777. SQ only has the skysuites on the 747 so, I had to rough it! Actually the seats are very comfortable and more than adequate for regional travel. In case you were wondering, they still serve the Dom (though not the Krug on all flights) on a 2-hour flight. The attendants on all the flights were really very charming. They each have their own style but are very engaging, easily conversing with passengers on numerous topics in a way that does not seem phony or rehearsed. With only three of us in F again, the service was excellent on this short hop. The menu is HERE (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425795&page=1&pp=15) (see post 61) I had preordered the Singapore Chicken Rice which was perfect.

After clearing immigration I went down to baggage claim to see if my bags, which I had checked two days earlier, had arrived. Once the belt started my bags were among the very first out. What was especially impressive was that they did not only have the Star Alliance Priority tags on them that UA had put on, but somewhere along the line (presumably at LAX), SQ had added their own priority First Class tags as well as another Star Alliance tag!

Outside of customs, I was met by a representative from the Peninsula Hotel and taken to a waiting car. I only had a minute in the BKK heat and humidity before I was ushered into the nicely chilled Mercedes! As I closed the door, I noticed some familiar music playing. Yes, it was Hotel California playing on the CD player! About 25 minutes later I was being ushered up to my suite to complete my registration. There is a long thread on BKK hotels http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414808&page=5&pp=15 Including my comments on the Peninsula at post number 65. Bottom line is it is a great hotel, and I would certainly stay there again when I am in BKK next.

After 5 days in BKK I was off to Bali with a change of planes in SIN. I headed down to the gate in BKK with the understanding that the flight was already boarding. When I got there, in fact, they had not started. I joined the line for First/Raffles customers, which was already about 12 deep. After waiting for a few minutes, one of the ground staff noticed my F boarding pass and quickly pulled the ropes aside, took me to the front of the line, and sent me to the plane. How is that for service? I soon learned that I was to have one of those fabled experiences where I was the only passenger in F. It almost feels like you are on a private jet! I know this comes as no surprise to most of you but those flight attendants do not even bat an eye at opening an entire bottle of Dom for one passenger. Of course I did my best to finish it (I came very close) before I suggested that they might want to serve some to Raffles! The attendant politely laughed assuring me that Dom is for F only! A few minutes after takeoff I started to doze a bit. The attendant noticed I was reclined and he quickly RAN around the cabin closing the window shades, including those in the galley. Seriously, you are treated like royalty on these flights. The menu is HERE (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425795&page=1&pp=15 ) (see post 85)

One side note here. On the SQ boards, once in a while, you get people saying that SQ’s attendants are “robotic”. Whoever came up with this term is an idiot. In my experience they were consistently well trained, attractive, and very service oriented. They each imparted some of their own personal style in the way they served customers. I was very impressed and, well, okay, I might have been in love once or twice!

Once in SIN I hit the lounge again while I waited for the flight to DPS. I should have only been allowed into the Raffles lounge as my continuing flight was not in F (no F offered to DPS). However, the charming person at the door allowed me in since I had arrived in F. Just smile a lot and ask, they will probably say yes! On this visit to the lounge I decided to check out the shower. Not that I needed one after a 2 hour flight but I thought it would help me sober up after all that Dom! The showers here are good, but probably ¼ the size of the UA ones in NRT. Anyway, after a shower and some Satay, I was all sobered up and ready for Bali.

Frankly, things get a little fuzzy here. So many flights, so much Dom, so many late nights, time zone changes, I am having a hard time recalling much about the flight to DPS. Again, since it was Raffles, maybe it was best that I don’t remember much after all my F flights! I do remember that I, again, could not eat. I was still full from the Dom on the BKK flight and the snacks from the lounge! Hmmm…..maybe this diet is working!

Bali was great, very relaxing. I stayed for a while at the FS Jimbaran and then briefly at the RC. The review is HERE (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=423057 ) (see post number 13)

After Bali I had a couple of shopping days in SIN before heading home. Checking in at SIN as an F passenger is pretty slick. Again, I was made to feel like I was royalty or something. I was met at the curb by skycap as well as a young woman who both escorted me to the first class check in office. Its not the usual check in line with a red carpet it is an office with desks where you sit and check your luggage. Actually, I just sat in a lounge chair and the woman took my travel documents and returned a couple of minutes later with all of my boarding passes and claim checks. Cant ask for better than that.

The flights home were more of the same excellent service and staff. These flights, (SIN-NRT and NRT-LAX) were operated on the 744 again with the those lovely skysuites. The menu is HERE (http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425795&page=1&pp=15) (See post 85) I will just relate two stories from these flights. From SIN to NRT I realized I had lost my lip balm and my lips were pretty chapped. I asked the flight attendant if there was any on board. She returned after checking to inform me that the amenity bags will be on board for the next segment but were not on yet. She then offered to kiss me to moisten my lips! I’ll leave the rest to your imaginations.

The other story is from NRT to LAX. I think there were six of us in F. After I had placed my meal order, the head steward came by. He said, so, Mr. Peter 11, you like caviar do you? I said, well yes I do. He said, so, is a large serving okay? I said sure. He said, well, then I shall serve you the entire can! What followed was a plate with a mountain of caviar, followed by second plate full. All washed down with some more of that lovely Dom!

There are so many other things you could praise SQ about. One thing that really stood out though was how clean the planes are. I often travel on UA and you can readily find a whole meal hidden in the cracks of the seats, or in the grooves in the floor around the seats. Not on SQ, every crack and crevice was spotless. The lavatory too is kept immaculate throughout the flight. The attendants were in the lav after virtually each use freshening it up. Oh, yea, one other little thing. In the lavatory, the dispenser has both paper towels as well as terry cloth towels. Never saw that on any other plane.

After clearing customs in LAX I headed over to the UA terminal. I was surprised that I was readily welcomed into the UA International F lounge even though my continuing flight was on UX in coach. I don’t know what the official policy is but I just smiled and was nice and they let me in. They even reissued my boarding pass since the one I had was on SQ stock. I had a couple of hours to wait so even though they do not have showers, I was glad to be able to relax in peace.

I am home now and have not had any Champagne or Caviar for nearly 2 weeks. It is not a diet that most doctors would recommend, but I did lose five pounds over my two-week vacation. It is an expensive diet, that is unless you have a lot of mileage to burn! :D


Deimos
Jul 31, 05, 2:44 am
Thanks for a nice report, I never seem to get tired of reading reports of first class travel. ^

From SIN to NRT I realized I had lost my lip balm and my lips were pretty chapped. I asked the flight attendant if there was any on board. She returned after checking to inform me that the amenity bags will be on board for the next segment but were not on yet. She then offered to kiss me to moisten my lips! I’ll leave the rest to your imaginations.
How come you never encounter anything like this in LH Y or C? :D

SMART51
Jul 31, 05, 3:01 am
Well another happy SQ pax.How come we do not have the same feeddback on UA,AA,DL or NW????BTW very nice report.Thank you


Jaffar
Jul 31, 05, 4:02 am
Wow sounds like you were treated as a king the entire time. Now I wish I were flying F instead of Raffles next month on the same route!

kluau88
Jul 31, 05, 6:06 am
Wow sounds like you were treated as a king the entire time. Now I wish I were flying F instead of Raffles next month on the same route!

I would try calling back daily. You never know when F space might open up. On an award ticket I used earlier this spring it was booked well in advance in Raffles, but then I had to make a change so I could nest another award ticket. Low and behold F space was available on the dates I needed. it should be noted that the outboud date never changed, but the inbound ones did. You can read more about it below. So don't give up hope of F space not being available.

restlessinRNO
Jul 31, 05, 8:16 am
A great trip report peter11. I loved reading it. Clearly a wise use of 120,000 UA miles.

Kiwi Flyer
Jul 31, 05, 2:59 pm
A great trip and a nice report peter11 ^

FTraveler
Jul 31, 05, 4:13 pm
Great report! Am looking forward to my SQ F experience LAX-NRT-LAX. Thanks for confirmation of UA F lounge access at LAX following arrival on SQ F. There was some discussion on the UA board about the lounge restricted to "departure in *A international F only" versus "same day travel in *A international F."

Glad to hear that the UA NRT F offers amenity bags in the shower suites. Last time I flew F into NRT several years ago, they didn't have amenity bags, just individual Molton Brown items on the counter.

I also love caviar and Dom. Were they serving Ossetra or Sevruga? Some of the menus say "Ossetra" and others simply say "Chilled Malossol." Hope I get the same chief steward. Never tried Krug, so will definitely sample some.

TakeMeToEZE
Jul 31, 05, 4:44 pm
Great trip report! You left me deciding to go out and have some champagne with dinner tonight.

One thing, though... I've never been on an SQ flight, and while reading your post I had the terrifying image of one of the international UA matrons offering to kiss me to moisten my lips. :p

peter11
Jul 31, 05, 8:12 pm
I also love caviar and Dom. Were they serving Ossetra or Sevruga? Some of the menus say "Ossetra" and others simply say "Chilled Malossol." Hope I get the same chief steward. Never tried Krug, so will definitely sample some.


Well the caviar is called Petrossian caviar on the current menus. They usued to call it Malossol. Even if it is a downgrade, it is still quite good. Ask to try the Krug and the Dom side by side. Then you will know which Rolls Royce you prefer!

peter11
Jul 31, 05, 8:14 pm
Great trip report! You left me deciding to go out and have some champagne with dinner tonight.

One thing, though... I've never been on an SQ flight, and while reading your post I had the terrifying image of one of the international UA matrons offering to kiss me to moisten my lips. :p

I was just at the store and was tempted to pick up a bottle myself! As for your terrifying image of a UA matron, well, rest assured, there is nothing, and I mean nothing about any SQ attendant that looks anything like a UA matron! I might have been blinded by love but I could still see! Had you been on this flight you would have puckered up in 2 second flat! :D

CGK
Jul 31, 05, 9:53 pm
Peter: A great trip report. ^ I am glad you are satisfied with your first SQ flights.
Hope you can make it to BALI DO 2006 on SQ F again. :D Hopefully we can have more Dom and Krug for pool party again.

I was just at the store and was tempted to pick up a bottle myself!
Hmm I thought your charm would make the crew to happily offered you one to take home... ;)
As for your terrifying image of a UA matron, well, rest assured, there is nothing, and I mean nothing about any SQ attendant that looks anything like a UA matron! I might have been blinded by love but I could still see! Had you been on this flight you would have puckered up in 2 second flat! :D
Again, I have to make sure to be in your next SQ flight so that I can learn how in the world to be able to get a kiss offered. :D

djjaguar64
Aug 1, 05, 10:25 am
You were smothered in luxury and decadence, what more can I say ? I am envious. What a wonderful and lovely report, I read every single line. ^ ^ ^

MovieMan
Aug 2, 05, 1:22 am
Great report, Peter! Brings back memories of my (way too few) times flying SQ F!

SQFAN
Aug 2, 05, 7:06 am
Peter11, a nice trip report... sounded so relaxiiiiiing.

Lip balm incident..wow, the FA went beyond the call of duty ... :D

Glad you enjoyed your SQ experience and that 120k miles seemed well spent.

WindFlyer
Aug 2, 05, 11:40 pm
Great report ^^

Just a quick question, though... I figure your award was LAX-DPS with a stopover in BKK (skipping the actual routing for simpliciy's sake); if so, how did you manage to get 2 days in SIN on the way back?

peter11
Aug 3, 05, 12:01 am
Great report ^^

Just a quick question, though... I figure your award was LAX-DPS with a stopover in BKK (skipping the actual routing for simpliciy's sake); if so, how did you manage to get 2 days in SIN on the way back?


You're right, the sin/dps part was a paid ticket. It would not be allowed to have both dps and bkk as stopovers.

WindFlyer
Aug 3, 05, 7:23 pm
You're right, the sin/dps part was a paid ticket.Thanks for the clarification ;)

ylwae
Aug 3, 05, 9:12 pm
Well the caviar is called Petrossian caviar on the current menus. They usued to call it Malossol. Even if it is a downgrade, it is still quite good. Ask to try the Krug and the Dom side by side. Then you will know which Rolls Royce you prefer!

Petrossian is a caviar/fine foods establishment in Paris. 'Malossol' refers to a method of preparing (salting) the eggs, and is not related to the other designations (eg, Sevruga, Ossetra, etc). So there may not have been a downgrade at all ^ !

CGK
Aug 5, 05, 1:12 pm
Just got off from SQ11. Tried to follow Peter's path. Too many pax wanted the caviar. :( It's petrossian for both LAX-NRT and NRT-SIN segments. But sure we did toast may Dom, especially for the b'day boy who would not join this Saturday SIN DO, aka shortfinals, the new emerging action star ;) .
But the most important thing is that SQ11 is still consistenly having great inflight services.

peter11
Aug 5, 05, 8:50 pm
CGK: Glad to hear you guys are enjoying yourselves. I am sure with your charm, or at least your status :) , a kiss will be offered by the crew at some point! As for the caviar, hope for an empty flight!

cawhite
Aug 7, 05, 9:05 pm
Just got off from SQ11. Tried to follow Peter's path. Too many pax wanted the caviar. :( It's petrossian for both LAX-NRT and NRT-SIN segments. But sure we did toast may Dom, especially for the b'day boy who would not join this Saturday SIN DO, aka shortfinals, the new emerging action star ;) .
But the most important thing is that SQ11 is still consistenly having great inflight services.
Hey!!!! I offered to let you have mine!!!! And you said no... :p

jtkauai
Aug 7, 05, 9:27 pm
yes sq f was quite fun the first few times. but the strange mannequin-esqe (and somewhat false) flight attendants, and the boring food (pre-ordered and not) are alas, just modern airline travel, and not especially to my taste. i frankly found my last ua intl 744 f (hnl-nrt) to be just as good, in all ways except for the espresso machine and the bed itself (i'll give sq those). and if you're traveling with a loved one, the sq suites don't work out too well.

peter11
Aug 8, 05, 10:46 am
yes sq f was quite fun the first few times. but the strange mannequin-esqe (and somewhat false) flight attendants, and the boring food (pre-ordered and not) are alas, just modern airline travel, and not especially to my taste. i frankly found my last ua intl 744 f (hnl-nrt) to be just as good, in all ways except for the espresso machine and the bed itself (i'll give sq those). and if you're traveling with a loved one, the sq suites don't work out too well.


I suppose I would disagree with you on most every one of your points. However, most of these are quite subjective and I'll readilly admit that these things probably vary a bit from flight to flight. As for the comment about traveling with a loved one, SQ does have pairs of seats in rows 3 and 4 on the 744 which are perfect for couples.

MoCheex
Sep 13, 05, 6:59 pm
I just booked 2 Raffles seats for a trip to Bali next year...will definitely be calling every day bw now and then to see about getting F class...sounds amazing! Thanks for the report Peter11.

Rejuvenated
Sep 13, 05, 7:35 pm
Excellent report! ^

plat
Sep 15, 05, 4:49 am
looking foward to my first trip in SQ F next year ^

FTraveler
Sep 16, 05, 1:11 pm
Recently completed my first two SQ flights in F (LAX-NRT-LAX) and, rather than do yet another trip report extolling the lavish treatment and amenities, I must say that I pretty much experienced what you did. Some additional observations:

While I didn't ask for two servings of caviar, the one serving that I did get was certainly heaping. The Lobster Thermidor out of LAX seemed tastier than the one out of NRT. And the Veal Chop for my Light Meal (LAX-NRT) was excellent. In addition to the quality and quantity of food, I was impressed by the presentation. I'm not much of a coffee drinker but a friend of mine who is told me to try the Jamaican Blue. I never knew coffee could taste so good. And yes, the Dom and Krug were flowing. Never tried Krug until this flight and I remain firmly in the Dom camp.

Service was impeccable. FAs spoke with me at eye level - which means they crouched down next to my seat rather than stand and look down. Water glass filled at the table. Plates properly aligned with logo on top. When ready to turn in, FA actually took off my socks and put on SQ F socks and remarked, "These are more comfortable."

I was able to get a white (female) amenity kit for wife in addition to the blue (male) - no female paxs in F going over. Received the PJs - light grey to NRT and dark grey on the return.

I did visit the UA F lounge at NRT for showers and finger food - wonderful canapes!

The only negative I experienced is that the cabin was a bit warm and there were no individual vents.

I'm hooked. From now on, every time I board a UA flight in international F, I will look forward to an experience that pales by comparison. Oh, well.

peter11
Sep 16, 05, 10:35 pm
Recently completed my first two SQ flights in F (LAX-NRT-LAX) and, rather than do yet another trip report extolling the lavish treatment and amenities, I must say that I pretty much experienced what you did. Some additional observations:

While I didn't ask for two servings of caviar, the one serving that I did get was certainly heaping. The Lobster Thermidor out of LAX seemed tastier than the one out of NRT. And the Veal Chop for my Light Meal (LAX-NRT) was excellent. In addition to the quality and quantity of food, I was impressed by the presentation. I'm not much of a coffee drinker but a friend of mine who is told me to try the Jamaican Blue. I never knew coffee could taste so good. And yes, the Dom and Krug were flowing. Never tried Krug until this flight and I remain firmly in the Dom camp.

Service was impeccable. FAs spoke with me at eye level - which means they crouched down next to my seat rather than stand and look down. Water glass filled at the table. Plates properly aligned with logo on top. When ready to turn in, FA actually took off my socks and put on SQ F socks and remarked, "These are more comfortable."

I was able to get a white (female) amenity kit for wife in addition to the blue (male) - no female paxs in F going over. Received the PJs - light grey to NRT and dark grey on the return.

I did visit the UA F lounge at NRT for showers and finger food - wonderful canapes!

The only negative I experienced is that the cabin was a bit warm and there were no individual vents.

I'm hooked. From now on, every time I board a UA flight in international F, I will look forward to an experience that pales by comparison. Oh, well.



Thanks for adding your comments to this thread. It is wonderful to hear that we had such similar experiences. I too am not a regular coffee drinker. I'll have to remember to try that Jamaican Blue if I am once again lucky enough to ride on SQ! I know a lot of people say they prefer the Krug. I say fine, more Dom for me! :D

Even if UA set up their planes physicaly the same as SQ and served the same menu, I feel that they would have a hard time duplicating the gracious hospitality offered by the SQ crew. Your experience with SQ sounds fantastic. Perhaps it is the norm, which is even more fantastic still! :D

FTraveler
Sep 16, 05, 10:58 pm
Even if UA set up their planes physicaly the same as SQ and served the same menu, I feel that they would have a hard time duplicating the gracious hospitality offered by the SQ crew. Your experience with SQ sounds fantastic. Perhaps it is the norm, which is even more fantastic still! :D

I agree. Amazing food, amazing service. Based on over 30 flights flown in UA international F over the past five years, assuming UA were to offer the same menu (yeah, right!), I would expect that the portions of caviar each pax received would be one-fourth of what SQ serves - cabin crew will devour most of the caviar onboard. They will "run out" of Dom and Krug as unopened bottles are discreetly tucked away in crew bags for layover parties or gifted to NRSA buddies. Certain paxs, usually NRSA buddies, will be lavished with attention as you attempt to flag down a passing FA for more water. FAs will disappear from sight as soon as the meal service is over and suddenly reappear when the next meal service is scheduled to begin.

Braniff
Sep 17, 05, 1:31 pm
I agree. Amazing food, amazing service. Based on over 30 flights flown in UA international F over the past five years, assuming UA were to offer the same menu (yeah, right!), I would expect that the portions of caviar each pax received would be one-fourth of what SQ serves - cabin crew will devour most of the caviar onboard. They will "run out" of Dom and Krug as unopened bottles are discreetly tucked away in crew bags for layover parties or gifted to NRSA buddies. Certain paxs, usually NRSA buddies, will be lavished with attention as you attempt to flag down a passing FA for more water. FAs will disappear from sight as soon as the meal service is over and suddenly reappear when the next meal service is scheduled to begin.


UA and SQ shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence!

However, it may be hard for some of you to believe but only 4 years ago, UA served Dom in F on their international routes. They used to stock 9 bottles I was told but in 2001 (pre- 9/11) they reduced it to 5 bottles... And now - zero. The good old days were wonderful - when one could drink 5-9 bottles of DOM on a SFO-NRT trip because the other (American) pax didn't want it! I remember as if it happened yesterday when a pax was offered DOM and declined - he wanted a Budweiser!

The UA F lounge at Narita (and SFO) are great - althought the present F lounge is about half the size of what it used to be.

jef7
Sep 17, 05, 5:32 pm
Thanks for adding your comments to this thread. It is wonderful to hear that we had such similar experiences. I too am not a regular coffee drinker. I'll have to remember to try that Jamaican Blue if I am once again lucky enough to ride on SQ! I know a lot of people say they prefer the Krug. I say fine, more Dom for me! :D

Even if UA set up their planes physicaly the same as SQ and served the same menu, I feel that they would have a hard time duplicating the gracious hospitality offered by the SQ crew. Your experience with SQ sounds fantastic. Perhaps it is the norm, which is even more fantastic still! :D


Hah, it's so funny I'm actually having a cup of Jamaican Blue coffee at the moment, which I absolutely enjoyed on SQ 11 as well, and is now included on my favorite coffee list. I flew for the first time on SQ F almost the same time as you did I believe, but has not found the time to write a report about it so reading your report really reminds me of that wonderful experience. I flew SQ on C a few weeks ago and though the experience was very good, I definitely longed for the polished and special touches one could only experience on SQ F. I agree about the warm temperature of the cabin though as noted by another poster, but it was a very minor annoyance in what really was a great experience. Thanks for this report peter11 ^

peter11
Sep 17, 05, 9:45 pm
UA and SQ shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence!

However, it may be hard for some of you to believe but only 4 years ago, UA served Dom in F on their international routes. They used to stock 9 bottles I was told but in 2001 (pre- 9/11) they reduced it to 5 bottles... And now - zero. The good old days were wonderful - when one could drink 5-9 bottles of DOM on a SFO-NRT trip because the other (American) pax didn't want it! I remember as if it happened yesterday when a pax was offered DOM and declined - he wanted a Budweiser!

The UA F lounge at Narita (and SFO) are great - althought the present F lounge is about half the size of what it used to be.

Yes, I fondly remember the glory years on UA with the DOM and caviar as well. It was a number of years ago, that I was at NRT though and UA did not have thier own F lounge. They had a shared lounge (Fuji Lounge) as well as a RCC. They were both way too small. At least based on my memory, the current UA lounges at NRT are fantastic and spacious by comparison.

CGK
Sep 17, 05, 11:28 pm
Yes, I fondly remember the glory years on UA with the DOM and caviar as well. It was a number of years ago, that I was at NRT though and UA did not have thier own F lounge. They had a shared lounge (Fuji Lounge) as well as a RCC. They were both way too small. At least based on my memory, the current UA lounges at NRT are fantastic and spacious by comparison.
I guess those days were when I was riding in the back of the plane! ;) :D
I remembered when the old RCC at NRT was just opened. Oh yes, UA F menu had Japanese meal. It's not like Obento now. I remembered my SO always teased me with the fact that in one of my japanese meal there was a green soup which looked yuckie for me (reminded me of something). Even the FA commented as well about the texture and color of the soup/sauce. And yes, I loved the Japanese dessert.
And, yes, I remember the caviar was served on board, plus salad, and soup to make up the whole seven-course meal service. Unfortunately, I rarely drank alcohol at that period of time. Just a tiny bit of Dom.

peter11
Sep 22, 05, 1:03 pm
I guess those days were when I was riding in the back of the plane! ;) :D Unfortunately, I rarely drank alcohol at that period of time. Just a tiny bit of Dom.


This is a terrifying thought! CGK in the back of a plane?? And you passed on the DOM???? Its all very hard to believe. :D From what I have read, it seems you are now the life of the party and you have quite a reputation in the F cabin!

USCGamecock
Sep 22, 05, 4:38 pm
Thanks for the report. Now I will be aiming for that F experince on SQ.

CGK
Sep 22, 05, 7:52 pm
This is a terrifying thought! CGK in the back of a plane?? And you passed on the DOM???? Its all very hard to believe. :D From what I have read, it seems you are now the life of the party and you have quite a reputation in the F cabin!
What kind of reputation do I have now? :eek: :(
At that time, I was still a shy, innocent and pure person, as well as poor student. ;) (Thanks for my dearest paffendorf who taught me how to play those words!)

peter11
Sep 22, 05, 10:21 pm
Hmmmm.......shy and innocent???? Perhaps it is so. But I highly doubt it. :cool:

SQFAN
Sep 23, 05, 1:58 am
What kind of reputation do I have now? :eek: :(
At that time, I was still a shy, innocent and pure person, as well as poor student. ;) (Thanks for my dearest paffendorf who taught me how to play those words!)

Paffendorf? Why, that international man of mystery. We definitely saw his style recently didn't we ? :D :D Can't say any further. :p

MovieMan
Sep 23, 05, 2:50 am
Thanks for my dearest paffendorf who taught me how to play those words!
Yes, and you are about as shy, innocent and pure as he is a poor student. :D ;)

lbiggie
Jan 2, 06, 12:53 pm
[QUOTE=peter11]The Dom Perignon & Caviar Diet (AKA SQ to Asia)



I was asked if I would like a drink before departure. I said sure, how about some champagne. Then came that question that SQ attendants love to ask. They say it with a little coy smile too. Mr. Peter11 would you prefer Dom Perignon or Krug? That’s like asking would you like a Rolls Royce, or a Rolls Royce! I opted from the Dom, which I am now thoroughly addicted to. Between two of us (that were drinking in F) we finished off that first bottle before takeoff!

I think that is the best question that I have ever been asked. I was greedy and asked for both. I loved Singapore, but I actually found the food better in F on Lufthansa. (I wrote the details on my blog -- moyey.blogspot.com)

Nice report!



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