Air France Frequence Plus - FAQ 5A1 - Paris CDG Airport FAQ

I tried to collect general information on CDG Charles de Gaulle Airport Paris (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/en-GB/Passagers/home.htm) and to give answers to the questions, you may have, concerning connections,lounges,ground transportation, etc.

CDG Charles de Gaulle Airport Paris, that is:

Terminal CDG1 (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/Resources/39db43d6-4a3a-44aa-86ee-5961fa3f290d-plaquette_phase2_def.pdf)
(oneworld and StarAlliance)

and the newer Terminal CDG2 (mostly used by AirFrance and Skyteam Carrier)
CDG2 Terminal A,B,C,D and Rail Station (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/Resources/68fba636-c332-4bf5-9483-af1ba10d0b39-cdg2abcd.pdf)

CDG 2 Terminal E,F (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/Adp/Resources/894313b3-1923-4bc6-906c-ba0e8375f2b4-cdg2ef.pdf)
CDG2E on reduced service since the accident last year here is the FlyerTalk thread with info about CDG 2E (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446470)

All Airlines with local contact information and Terminal at CDG can be found here (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/en-GB/Passagers/AvantDePartir/AuDepartDeParis/CompagniesParAerogares/?)


Terminal 1

When you get off the plane, follow the "Correspondance Transfer" signs up to the Transfer desk to check your departure terminal.
• If your connection is at Terminal 1:
- You do not need to go through police controls
- Find out which departure satellite you have to go to at one of the two Transfer desks between satellites 2-3 and 4-5

• If your connection is at Terminal 2:
- For an international flight: Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (within customs zone) at satellite 3
- Domestic flight or Schengen: Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls
Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 1) at shop level

• If your connection is at Terminal 3:
- Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls, then collect your luggage
- Next take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 2) at shop level

• If your connection is at Terminal Sud or Terminal Ouest at Orly Airport:
Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls
- To get to Orly by the RER B + automatic metro Orlyval:
Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 2) at shop level, in the direction of Gare RER 1
Next take the RER B to Antony RER station, and then follow the Orlyval connection for Orly Airport
- To go to Orly on the Air France bus:
Take the shuttle at arrival level, exit 34

Unfortunately, the RER B and Air France buses do not provide facilities for disabled people; it is recommended that alternative arrangements be made in advance.

Terminal 2 (Air France and other Skyteam Carriers)

When you get off the plane, follow the "Correspondance Transfer" signs up to the Transfer desk to check your departure terminal.
• If your connection is at Terminal 2:
Check your departure terminal at the Transfer desk:
- For an international flight, departures are from Terminals 2A, 2B, 2C, 2E or 2F: Take the Air France shuttle bus (within customs zone) situated close to the Transfer desk
- For a domestic flight or Schengen, departures are from Terminals 2D or 2F: Proceed to the public area and follow the "Correspondance Transfer" signs
more explicite info to come, I am checking old FT threads for advice
• If your connection is at Terminal 1:
- International flight:
Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (within customs zone) situated close to the Transfer desk
- Domestic flight or Schengen:
Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls
Then take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 1) to Terminal 1
• If your connection is at Terminal 3:
Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls, then collect your luggage
Next take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 5) to Terminal 3
• If your connection is at Terminal Sud or Terminal Ouest at Orly Airport:
Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs and proceed to police controls
- To get to Orly via the RER B + automatic metro Orlyval:
Go to the SNCF/RER station by the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 3) or by the pedestrian walkway
Next take the RER B to Antony RER station, and then follow the Orlyval connection for Orly Airport
- To get to Orly via the Air France bus from Terminal:
-2A and 2C: take exit 2 of 2C
-2B and 2D: take exit 2 of 2B
-2E and 2F: take the connecting passageway, exit 3

Unfortunately, the RER B and Air France buses do not provide facilities for disabled people; it is recommended that alternative arrangements be made in advance.

• If your connection is at the SNCF train station:
Follow the "Sortie - Exit" signs, collect your luggage and go through police controls. From terminal:
-2A: Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 3), exit 8
-2B: Take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 3), exit 6
-2C & 2D: Follow the signposts and take the pedestrian walkway
-2E: Take the pedestrian walkway or the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 3) exit 2.06, Level 2 (Departures)
-2F: Take the pedestrian walkway or the Aéroports de Paris shuttle bus (line 3) exit 2.08, Level 2 (Departures)

minimum connection times:

Terminal 1 : All connections : 90 minutes
Terminal 2 : All connections : 90 minutes
Terminal 3 : All connections : 60 minutes
Between terminals : All connections : 120 minutes
Between airports CDG / ORY : All connections : 180 minutes

within the same carrier and within the same Terminal, faster connection times can be made. Terminal2D has been reorganized, you can access all gates from any security checkpoint which reduces wait-time. I'd say 45min is realistic. (within Schengen)





AIR FRANCE has the following lounges at the CDG2 Terminal.

Access policy:

You can use Air France´s and SkyTeam´s lounges if:
* you fly in L´Espace Première (First) or L´Espace Affaires (Business),
* you are a Flying Blue Gold or Platinum, SkyTeam Elite Plus, or Club 2000 member,
* you travel as a first class or business class passenger on an international SkyTeam flight.

Tempo Challenge passengers have access to lounges at CDG2.



List of Air France lounges

- Paris CDG2 A East: Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 B: non smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 C arrival lounge - looks at the arrival lounge - thread with photos in post #93 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23796)
- Paris CDG2 C (Business): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 D: Smoking, Internet+WiFi
- Paris CDG2 E (Business): two lounges, depends on boarding gate, info here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4499631&postcount=32)
- Paris CDG2 E First class lounge with limousine service, coming summer 2006
- Paris CDG2 F1: Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 F2 (Business): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower


Departures Lounge

During departures or connecting flights, and during all Air France and SkyTeam stopovers, our Departures lounge can offer you:

* light dining with a large choice of beverages
* Business and Communications space (telephone, fax, PC, printer, free Internet access)
* international newspapers
* comfortable armchairs
* showers in certain airports
* LCD screens
* smoking area in most lounges

Arrivals Lounge

Feel fresh and relaxed when you arrive at Paris/Charles-de-Gaulle


* spacious shower stalls
* clothes pressing service
* a substantial breakfast
* Business and Communications space (telephone, fax, PC, printer, free Internet access)
* international newspapers
* an area with LCD screens
* smoking area
* reservations service for those traveling to Paris

Location: Paris/Charles-de-Gaulle, Terminal 2C : outside the customers area, opposite gate C2

Hours: 5:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.


All Skyteam Carriers use AF lounges in CDG2

restaurants, shopping:

You can take a moment to relax in one of the many Terminal bars (Café Sélect, France Café, etc.). There are also various Relay shops on hand, selling newspapers, magazines and books.

Are you waiting for a transfer and have to stay in the airside zone? If so, make the most of the occasion to do a little shopping. You will find all the major Paris fashion brands …at duty-free prices!
You can also eat in one of the several restaurants available, such as the Hippopotamus, Clément Ader and brasserie FLO (http://en.parisinfo.com/paris_restaurants/rub6059.html&OTCP_type=cafe&id_entite=7101&OTCP_action=detail) . McDonalds (between 2A and 2C, between 2B and 2D) and Quick (2F) can be found at the airport, too ;)
If you feel like a change of hairstyle, there is a hairdressing salon (Coiffure Christian Gilles) in the hall of Terminal 2F.



ground transportation

you have three ways to get into town with public ground transportation

RATP (http://www.ratp.info/informer/anglais/index.php) is the local metro and bus company. Serving the Airport with commuter trains RER (http://www.ratp.info/informer/anglais/aeroport_rerb.php?partenaire=) trains from the railstation between Terminal ABCD and EF.
The other way to get to downtown Paris is the bus.
Its operated by RATP and its called Roissybus (http://www.ratp.info/informer/anglais/aeroport_roissybus.php?partenaire=)

or you can use the Air France Coaches (http://www.airfrance.com/double6/passage2.nsf/(LookupPublishedWeb)/en-EXCDG-CarsAF?OpenDocument&W=800&H=600&POP=af&ACR=&T='))

I know there are alot of things to add ... to be continued with your help :D



threads about CDG on other forums

interesting thread/discussion on the CO board:
The French Connection: A rational discussion on CDG (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5103336)

Europe 1 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
domestic 20,000 9,000

France/Netherlands 20,000 9,000 30,000
Germany 20,000 9,000 30,000
UK 20,000 9,000 30,000

Belgium 20,000 9,000 30,000
Ireland 20,000 9,000 30,000
Luxembourg 9,000 30,000
Switzerland 20,000 9,000 30,000



Europe 2 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Austria 25,000 15,000 30,000
Denmark 25,000 15,000 30,000
Finland 25,000 20,000 30,000
Gibraltar 15,000
Italy 25,000 15,000 30,000
Malta 25,000 20,000 30,000
Norway 25,000 15,000 30,000
Portugal 25,000 15,000 30,000
Spain 25,000 15,000 30,000
Sweden 25,000 15,000 30,000



Europe 3 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Albania 30,000 20,000 30,000
Belorussia 30,000 30,000
Bosnia 30,000 30,000
Bulgaria 30,000 20,000 30,000
Croatia 30,000 30,000
Cyprus 30,000 20,000 30,000
Czech Republic 30,000 15,000 30,000
Estonia 30,000 30,000
Greece 30,000 20,000 30,000
Hungary 30,000 15,000 30,000
Latvia 30,000 30,000
Lithuania 30,000 30,000
Macedonia, FYROM 30,000 30,000
Moldavia 30,000
Montenegro 30,000
Poland 30,000 15,000 30,000
Romania 30,000 20,000 30,000
Russia 30,000 20,000 30,000
Slovakia 30,000 30,000
Slovenia 30,000 30,000
Serbia 30,000 30,000
Turkey 30,000 20,000 30,000
Ukraine 30,000 20,000 30,000


Atlantic Ocean AF/KL BA LH/LX
Islands
__________________________________________________ _____________
Azores 40,000
Canary Islands 30,000 40,000
Cap Verde 40,000
Madeira 40,000
Sao Tome & Principe 40,000



Africa 1 North Africa AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Algeria 30,000 20,000 40,000
Libya 30,000 20,000 40,000
Morocco 30,000 40,000
Sudan 40,000
Tunisia 30,000 20,000 40,000



Africa 2 - West Africa AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Benin
Burkina-Faso
Djibouti
Gambia
Guinea,
Guinea, Bissau
Ivory Coast
Liberia
Mali
Mauritania
Niger
Nigeria
Senegal
Sierra-Leone
Togo


Africa 3 - Middle Africa AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________

Angola
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Congo
Congo, DRC
Gabon,
Guinea, Equatorial



Africa 4 - East Africa AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________

Burundi
Djibouti
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Kenya
Madagascar
Malawi
Mozambique
Rwanda
Somalia
Tanzania
Uganda
Zambia
Zimbabwe



Africa 5 - Southern Africa AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________

Botswana
Lesotho
Namibia
South Africa
Swaziland



Middle East AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________

Egypt
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Jordan
Kuwait
Lebanon 20,000
Oman
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Syria
United Arab Emirates
Yemen



Caucasus, Central Asia AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Armenia
Azerbaidjan
Georgia
Kazakhstan
Kirghizstan
Russia, Central
Tadjikistan
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan 20,000




North America AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
United States
Hawaii
Canada
Mexico
Greenland
Bermuda



Central America, Caribbean AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Antigua
Aruba
Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Bermuda
Bonaire
Cayman Islands
Costa Rica
Cuba
Curaçao
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
French Guyana
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Jamaica
Martinique
Nicaragua
Panama
Puerto Rico
Saint Kitts & Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Martin
Suriname
Trinidad & Tobago
Turks & Caicos
Virgin Islands



South America AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
Paraguay
Peru
Uruguay
Venezuela



Hawaii AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
domestic 20,000




Indian Ocean AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Comoros
Mauritius
Reunion
Seychelles 20,000



South Asia AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Bangla-Desh
India
Maldives
Nepal
Pakistan
Sri-Lanka 20,000



Asia 1 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
China, PRC
China, ROC
Hong-Kong
Japan
Korea, ROK
Mongolia
Russia, Siberia



Asia 2 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Brunei
Burma
Cambodia
Indonesia
Laos
Malaysia
Philippines
Singapore
Thailand
Vietnam



South Pacific 1 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Australia
New Zealand



South Pacific 2 AF/KL BA LH/LX
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Cook Islands
Fiji
French Polynesia
Guam
Mariannas
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
New Caledonia
Norfolk Islands
Palau
Samoa
Tonga

Very good idea! Transferring at CDG is not always that easy or fun. I would like it if we could include good restaurants or other places nice to wait in.

Very good idea! Transferring at CDG is not always that easy or fun. I would like it if we could include good restaurants or other places nice to wait in.

will be done. I am working on it :D

Hmmm... Sorry for me not responding sooner but I am under the gun with some major deadlines at the moment (and I thought summer was a dead period!).

I think this thread may be better served as :

a) a sticky

and

b) more appropriately in the Paris airports forum as opposed to here. Why? Because even though its AF's hub, it's not relevant to FB (besides, will we have a similar one for Schipol?).

I'm open to comments before moving it...

Hmmm... Sorry for me not responding sooner but I am under the gun with some major deadlines at the moment (and I thought summer was a dead period!).

I think this thread may be better served as :

a) a sticky

and

b) more appropriately in the Paris airports forum as opposed to here. Why? Because even though its AF's hub, it's not relevant to FB (besides, will we have a similar one for Schipol?).

I'm open to comments before moving it...

I didn't even know we had a Paris airport forum! Learn something new every day!

(besides, will we have a similar one for Schipol?).

Does one need a guide to navigate Schiphol? I don't think so :)

Seriously, I don't think it's a good idea to move a useful thread to where no one can see it (Paris airport forum - huh?)

Requested information; Minimum Connection Time. (For T1<->T2 I believe it is as much as 2 hours!!!)

Requested information; Minimum Connection Time. (For T1<->T2 I believe it is as much as 2 hours!!!)

I'll try to put this in. I just need help from other fellow FlyerTalkers to get the exact time. I think 2 hours should be ok from T1 to T2.

I think it's useful to have it here, rather than the Paris airport forum, which I haven't been in in my life. With the merging of AF/KLM, then I would imagine many KLM fliers are going to be using CDG rather more than previously, so it would be useful to have this info somewhere to hand..

nice job chrissxb

I'll try to put this in. I just need help from other fellow FlyerTalkers to get the exact time. I think 2 hours should be ok from T1 to T2.
Google came up with a goldmine:
http://www1.iata.org/WHIP/_Files/WgId_0091/MCT%20CDG.doc

Silly times...T1 MCT at 90 minutes! And as I feared MCT of 2hrs between T1 and T2... Overall it makes the airport totally useless for intra-european commuting connections. As a comparison; MCT at AMS is as far as I remember 35 minutes. Similar for other hubs like FRA and MUC.

Google came up with a goldmine:
http://www1.iata.org/WHIP/_Files/WgId_0091/MCT%20CDG.doc

Silly times...T1 MCT at 90 minutes! And as I feared MCT of 2hrs between T1 and T2... Overall it makes the airport totally useless for intra-european commuting connections. As a comparison; MCT at AMS is as far as I remember 35 minutes. Similar for other hubs like FRA and MUC.

I'd say for intra-european flight 45min is ok (if you know how to walk). Did that several times. thanks for the link. :) I'll update the thread. 35min for AMS ... seems very short for me.. you can have really long walks at AMS, too.

I'd say for intra-european flight 45min is ok (if you know how to walk). Did that several times. thanks for the link. :) I'll update the thread. 35min for AMS ... seems very short for me.. you can have really long walks at AMS, too.
At CDG I'd say a frequent visitor of the airport would need 45mins within T2 and an hour if doing a terminal change. Within T1 30-45mins should suffice. Sadly MCT is set not by how fast we are able to move about an airport that is a logistical mess, but how fast your average tourist will be able to do it. :(

And the problem is that MCT is what the booking engines will use as a minimum transfer, unless you force it, and then if you loose your connection or luggage you are out of luck.

I think it's useful to have it here, rather than the Paris airport forum, which I haven't been in in my life. With the merging of AF/KLM, then I would imagine many KLM fliers are going to be using CDG rather more than previously, so it would be useful to have this info somewhere to hand..

Agree with Jenbel; at least for the time being, this thread seems well-suited to the newly established FB forum.

Many thanks to chrissxb for all the work.

Is there a secure place to temporarily store luggage in CDG? I have a very long layover in CDG (10 hours!) and plan to spend it downtown. I have done this before and left my luggage in the business lounge, but I don't like to do this because it is not secure (and probably not allowed, even though the lounge agent suggested it).

In other airports I have seen self serve lockers, or a storage room with an attendant. Any suggestions for CDG? I am connecting in 2C (both flights), but I don't mind going to another terminal for this purpose.

Hello guys,

This Friday I'm flying TXL-CDG-AMS with a 50 min connection time in CDG. I will have to go from 2D to 2F. Is this doable for someone who doesn't have much experience at CDG?

Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,
Maurits

Hello guys,

This Friday I'm flying TXL-CDG-AMS with a 50 min connection time in CDG. I will have to go from 2D to 2F. Is this doable for someone who doesn't have much experience at CDG?

Thanks for your help!

Kind regards,
Maurits

You need 10mn at the utmost from the time you reach 2D in order to arrive at security in 2F1. Just follow the moving walkways to the TGV station and from there to 2F1. It is a simple straight line. ;). From security in 2F1, it is 5mn to any gate. So it is quite doable, except if your flight from TXL is late. If it arrives at a remote stand, you should also factor in an additional 15mn to reach 2D.

Enjoy your flights :)

Enjoy your flights :)

Fantastic JOUY31! Your effort in helping others is very admirable. Thanks a lot.

Kind regards,
Maurits

I just discovered an interesting thread about CDG on the CO board

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5103336

I just discovered an interesting thread about CDG on the CO board

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5103336

:D is this sponsored by AF and ADP ;)

Flying Delta into CDG next week. Flight 22 (777) which I believe arrives at 2E at 7:45am. We are connecting onto Air France to Vienna at 9:40am which has been regularly departing from 2D. Is it an easy walk from 2E to 2D, and do we have to be bussed into 2E?

I assume that if the flight is on time, we would have plenty of time to connect. Anyone have any info on the latest we can arrive and still make the connection

I saw these directions posted earlier for someone else.

step 1: leave the bus at E Terminal
step 2: clear immigration
step 3: walk thru baggage claim and customs to F terminal
step 4: go thru security at the left wing in the F terminal
step 5: go to your boarding gate and again ... have a nice flight


I have never flown to this airport before and have seen horror stories about it on several sites. My question is what bus are you talking about and how do I get to it? I arrive at 2E and need to get to 2F. I only have 45 minutes. Is that even possible? I have called Air France, they tell me no problem. The guy told me not to even go to the regular customs line, but to go to my departure gate (2F) and the people at the counter would tell me what to do. That doesn't sound right.

Is there an online map of this airport so I can get an idea of what I am dealing with?

Thanks! :confused:

Is there an online map of this airport so I can get an idea of what I am dealing with?

Thanks! :confused:

links to terminal maps can be found in the OP (first post in this thread)

Where are you connecting to from CDG ? (Schengen or non-Schengen destination)


I don't understand this. I am flying from Dallas to Atlanta to Paris to Rome. I arrive 2E and depart 2F . Does that help?

I don't understand this. I am flying from Dallas to Atlanta to Paris to Rome. I arrive 2E and depart 2F . Does that help?

in this case you found the right steps to take.
on arrival at 2E clear immigration and customs, go landside, take the tunnel to 2F Terminal. and here you go.

in this case you found the right steps to take.
on arrival at 2E clear immigration and customs, go landside, take the tunnel to 2F Terminal. and here you go.

If I go landside, don't I have to go through security again? I only have 45 minutes to make my connection.

On the online map, is La galerie the tunnel you are talking about?

Thanks

you have to clear security again, but that is not the problem. even staying airside and taking the shuttle bus which takes you ages ... you'd have to pass security again. don't worry, you'll make it... no TSA in europe ;)

Thanks!!

During the debate over the rise in ADP fees over the next five years, ADP has refused to let AF build and operate one of the new satellites, Satellite S4, but its President, Pierre Graff, proposes to build it two years earlier than scheduled, in 2012 instead of 2014, to address the needs of AF.

In French :

http://fr.biz.yahoo.com/12012006/202/adp-gagne-la-bataille-des-redevances-un-atout-pour-entrer.html

that is just ridiculous ... 2012 :rolleyes:

Am in AF-lounge 2B now... yet they deny having a shower here...

as shown on their website now, they don't have shower (anymore), I'll edit my post. Thanks for info.

Did a search, but couldn't find an exact answer. Traveling JFK-CDG-SZG. I'm not 100% familiar with CDG as I've only gone through about a dozen times. I'll be arriving on DL at 2E, leaving for SZG at 2D (AF codeshare/Styrian). Which is the fastest way to get from 2E to 2D, the bus or by foot? If by foot, which is the best route? And how about on the return?

Based on my previous experiences, I've padded my connection time enough on the outbound. If I'm arriving at 2E, and going to 2D, are there showers that an Elite Plus could use?

Thanks in advance.

Did a search, but couldn't find an exact answer. Traveling JFK-CDG-SZG. I'm not 100% familiar with CDG as I've only gone through about a dozen times. I'll be arriving on DL at 2E, leaving for SZG at 2D (AF codeshare/Styrian). Which is the fastest way to get from 2E to 2D, the bus or by foot? If by foot, which is the best route? And how about on the return?

Based on my previous experiences, I've padded my connection time enough on the outbound. If I'm arriving at 2E, and going to 2D, are there showers that an Elite Plus could use?

Thanks in advance.

Your best choice is to go by foot for this connection. There is absolutely no point in taking any bus. When arriving from JFK in 2E:

- Clear immigration in 2E
- Once you are out of the baggage retrieval area, go towards the TGV station. You need to go up one level. Time to reach the moving walkways leading to the TGV station : 5mn
- Head for the TGV station over moving walkways : 5mn
- Cross over to the other side of the terminal : 1mn
- Turn left towards 2D, which you should reach in 5mn.
- You then need to reach your departure gate, another 5mn and go through security check.

(Please note that it usually takes me half the time I have quoted)

- The 2D lounge is located before security check; there are no showers there
- There are 14 showers in the 2C arrivals lounge, but I am not sure that as a DL SkyTeam Elite Plus flying coach, you would be able to use the lounge. If you are flying B/E, there should be no problem.

For your flight back to JFK
- you arrive in the departures area of 2D; it may take you 5mn to reach the moving walkways to the TGV station, depending on the area of 2D where you arrive
- head for the TGV station over moving walkways: 5mn
- cross over to the other side of the building n: 1mn
- head for 2E over another set of moving walkways : 5mn
- go up one level to departures (it is actually half a level)
- head for the isthmus : 5mn
- where you will clear immigration and security, it usually is very quick as 2E is not used so much

And don't forget to enjoy your flights :) !

JOUY31, thanks so much! I always have people heading through CDG look at your posts for information (not that everyone else aren't also helpful).

Is the 2C arrivals lounge airside or landside? If landside, I'll go in next weekend and ask about Elite Plus admission. (Going to CDG for once, instead of through CDG.)

On the return from 2D to 2E, which exit path do I take towards the TGV station? Follow the signs to baggage claim?

Also, since I'll be travelling on DL to JFK, what is your opinion of the AF lounge in the satellite building?

Thanks again.

Is the 2C arrivals lounge airside or landside? If landside, I'll go in next weekend and ask about Elite Plus admission.
It is indeed landside :).


On the return from 2D to 2E, which exit path do I take towards the TGV station? Follow the signs to baggage claim?

There are two baggage claim areas in 2D. When arriving from the jetway into 2D, looking away from the tarmac, you should turn to the left and exit by either a baggage claim area or the entrance/exit where there used to be passport controls a long time ago, just as in 2B today. Turning left ensures that you go to the end of 2D closest to the TGV station. Turning right would lead you to the food court area located between 2D and 2B (wrong direction !!)


Also, since I'll be travelling on DL to JFK, what is your opinion of the AF lounge in the satellite building?

Unfortunately, I haven't ever used this lounge yet. Reports from other posters indicate that it is a full fledged lounge, although the lounge in the 2E building itself is probably the best AF business class lounge.

Good luck ! :)

It is indeed landside :).

Unfortunately, I haven't ever used this lounge yet. Reports from other posters indicate that it is a full fledged lounge, although the lounge in the 2E building itself is probably the best AF business class lounge.



Is there a difference between the 2C arrival lounge with respect to the amenities, or are the other lounges in 2E/F comparable? For example, other lounges have showers but don't bill themselves as "arrival lounges" per se. I've never tried any of the other lounges on arrival and was going to give the one in 2E or F a try instead of walking down to 2C, unless the 2C one is markedly better. Thoughts, opinions?

Arrival lounge is special in the way that you can access it without going through security. If you arrive in 2E you are not able to access the lounge only when departing from this terminal.
Arrival lounge has plenty of shower and a better selection for breakfast. There are 3 flat massage seats that you may use to take a nap if you have time and need to rest. Beside this it is rather small and nothin

If your flying patern allow you to go to the main Terminal E lounge then you have very nice showers in a nice large lounge but for this you need to have a flight departing from 2E.

Arrival lounge is special in the way that you can access it without going through security. If you arrive in 2E you are not able to access the lounge only when departing from this terminal.

If your flying patern allow you to go to the main Terminal E lounge then you have very nice showers in a nice large lounge but for this you need to have a flight departing from 2E.

Thank you for the prompt reply. I'd be arriving at 2F, so I suppose I could use that lounge instead of 2C's. (I'm not continuing my trip until the following day, so 2E is not a possibility) Do you (or anyone else) have an opinion of 2F's lounge as opposed to 2C's? I appreciate the advice.

Thank you for the prompt reply. I'd be arriving at 2F, so I suppose I could use that lounge instead of 2C's. (I'm not continuing my trip until the following day, so 2E is not a possibility) Do you (or anyone else) have an opinion of 2F's lounge as opposed to 2C's? I appreciate the advice.

are you talking about the 2C ARRIVAL lounge compared to 2E/2F departure lounges? the only ARRIVAL LOUNGE IS IN 2C
, all other are departure lounges

my personal rating is

2E departure (in terminal building, there's a 2nd in satellite terminal, depends on your departure gate)
2C arrival
2F2 departure lounge
2C departure lounge can get really crowded

are you talking about the 2C ARRIVAL lounge compared to 2E/2F departure lounges? the only ARRIVAL LOUNGE IS IN 2C
, all other are departure lounges


Appreciate the reply.

Yes, the 2C Arrival lounges vs. the 2E/F departure lounges, which also have showers. I only travel occasionally to CDG, and haven't tried the 2F lounge upon arrival (for a shower and some breakfast, etc.) as opposed to walking over to the 2C landside arrival lounge which I've used previously. For example, do you get clothes pressing at the 2F lounge if you need it? Are the showers as nice as at 2C?

Appreciate the reply.

Yes, the 2C Arrival lounges vs. the 2E/F departure lounges, which also have showers. I only travel occasionally to CDG, and haven't tried the 2F lounge upon arrival (for a shower and some breakfast, etc.) as opposed to walking over to the 2C landside arrival lounge which I've used previously. For example, do you get clothes pressing at the 2F lounge if you need it? Are the showers as nice as at 2C?

what are you flying, you can access departure lounge only with sameday boarding pass for a departing flight, arrival lounge only when arriving same day from long distance. i try to figure out your flights to be able to use both. DXB-CDG-YYZ or similar? then you'd have the choice between both and then - if I was you - I'd stay in 2F departure lounge.

what are you flying, you can access departure lounge only with sameday boarding pass for a departing flight, arrival lounge only when arriving same day from long distance. i try to figure out your flights to be able to use both. DXB-CDG-YYZ or similar? then you'd have the choice between both and then - if I was you - I'd stay in 2F departure lounge.

Ah, I understand now. I'm going YYZ-CDG-BOD, but I've a day stopover first before my onward flt., so I guess it's over to 2C.

Thanks again for the help!

Back from my skiing holiday :) ! There is no pressing service in departures lounges and there are 13 or 14 nice showers in the arrivals lounge as well as one for the physically impaired ( I hope I did get the US PC style wording correctly !).

When I have the time, I always go to the arrivals lounge rather than to any departures lounge, except for the 2E one.

Merci, Jouy31. The next time I connect through 2E I will give this lounge a try.

Now I have to figure out how to keep my new 7+ lb laptop and a week's worth of clothes under the 12 kilo carry on limit...

Cheers

It is indeed landside :).


There are two baggage claim areas in 2D. When arriving from the jetway into 2D, looking away from the tarmac, you should turn to the left and exit by either a baggage claim area or the entrance/exit where there used to be passport controls a long time ago, just as in 2B today. Turning left ensures that you go to the end of 2D closest to the TGV station. Turning right would lead you to the food court area located between 2D and 2B (wrong direction !!)


Unfortunately, I haven't ever used this lounge yet. Reports from other posters indicate that it is a full fledged lounge, although the lounge in the 2E building itself is probably the best AF business class lounge.

Good luck ! :)

JOUY31, Thanks again for your help. Had no problem as ElitePlus getting into 2C Arrivals Lounge. Plan on doing the same in 10 days.

Stopped at 2E and it is indeed a great lounge. The satellite lounge was just ok, nice seating, but I looked for showers and did not see them. Looking forward to when 2E is back in operation.

This thread is great! Wondering if someone can help with my itinerary?
Flying AF SFO-CDG-FCO. I believe CDG to FCO is a codeshare with Alitalia. I have a 1 hr connection to get from 2C to 2F. Is this doable?

Thanks in advance!

Flying AF SFO-CDG-FCO. I believe CDG to FCO is a codeshare with Alitalia. I have a 1 hr connection to get from 2C to 2F. Is this doable?I guess you're talking about AF83 and AF9846. A bit tight but perfectly doable if AF83 is on time. You don't risk too much anyway. If you miss AF9846, they will rebook you on the next one (AF9834) at 14:00. An A321 too (plenty of seats).

By the way, welcome to FT!
:)

I guess you're talking about AF83 and AF9846. A bit tight but perfectly doable if AF83 is on time. You don't risk too much anyway. If you miss AF9846, they will rebook you on the next one (AF9834) at 14:00. An A321 too (plenty of seats).

By the way, welcome to FT!
:)

thanks for your help! definitely puts my mind at ease. i just discovered flyertalk recently and love it. thanks for the warm welcome.

thanks for your help! definitely puts my mind at ease. i just discovered flyertalk recently and love it. thanks for the warm welcome.


I have a similar situation in a few weeks on aF 65 from LAX-CDG and AZ 333 from CDG-FCO . I think with a 75 minute connection. I wAs wondering about that . now I feel a little better.

I have a similar situation in a few weeks on aF 65 from LAX-CDG and AZ 333 from CDG-FCO . I think with a 75 minute connection. I wAs wondering about that . now I feel a little better.

You will be arriving at 2C at an off peak hour, so immigration should be OK. Walking from 2C to 2F1, for your departure to FCO should take 10mn once you have cleared immigration in 2C. Security checks in 2F1 should take about 10mn, and there is a fast track lane for Elite Plus and premium passengers.

In any case, there is another AZ flight at 2:00 PM.

Enjoy your flights :)

Hi there...

I will be flying next week on AF 95 from MIA to CDG, arriving at 8:05 a.m. (in 2C) and then connecting to KL 1228 which departs at 9:00 a.m. (from 2F). Do you all think I will have enough time? If not, it looks like there are plenty of AF/KL flights through the morning - how easy is it to rebook on those if necessary? I presume I do not have to clear customs (right?). Any thoughts/suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

If your flight from MIA is on time and if you have a jetway instead of a remote stand, there should not be a problem. Otherwise, it is a bit tight, but as you mentioned, there are plenty of flights to AMS. If you miss your connection, you are usually automatically rebooked on the following flight or you may have to ask at the transfer desk.

Regarding your checked baggage, you will clear customs at your final EU destination, but your carry-on may be inspected upon arrival in CDG (never happened to me ;) ).

Once you have cleared immigration and left the baggage retrieval area in 2C, go towards the TGV station (5mn) over moving walkways, cross over to the other side of the building (1mn) and then turn right towards 2F over another set of moving walkways, to the security check at the entrance to the 2F1 (Schengen area, including AMS - 5mn). After security check, you need at most an additional 5mn to reach any gate in 2F1.

Enjoy your flights :).



Hi there...

I will be flying next week on AF 95 from MIA to CDG, arriving at 8:05 a.m. (in 2C) and then connecting to KL 1228 which departs at 9:00 a.m. (from 2F). Do you all think I will have enough time? If not, it looks like there are plenty of AF/KL flights through the morning - how easy is it to rebook on those if necessary? I presume I do not have to clear customs (right?). Any thoughts/suggestions would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Thank you very much - that is great information and I really appreciate it.

ADP January 2006 traffic figures (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/en-GB/Groupe/EspacePresse/Communiques/DerniersCommuniques/Traffic200601.htm)

Aéroports de Paris handled 6 million passengers at CDG and ORY in January, an increase of 4.6% compared with January 2005.

The rise in passenger traffic was generated by an increase of 5.9% at CDG and a growth of 2.1% at ORY

I have a friend who is traveling to CDG on DL 44 on March 25. His sister is coming as well but on DL 22. Her flight arrives around 9:00 am and he gets in 45 minutes later. She does not ever travel, much less Internationally.

Can someone give me some tips to pass along to them to help guide them once they land to ensure they find each other?

I appreciate everyone's help. I have read this whole thread and there is a ton of info and I am very appreciative of that.

I will also be through CDG on March 29 on my way to GVA. Any tips on finding my connecting flight would be nice as well.

Thanks!

My wife and I will be in Europe for two weeks celebrating our ten year anniversary. We are flying direct, on Air France (744), from San Francisco to Paris. We arrive at 11:50am and our connecting flight to Prague (Czech Air) departs at 1:05pm. After reading all 11 pages, I am beginning to feel that 75 minutes will be enough time.

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Toe.

I have a friend who is traveling to CDG on DL 44 on March 25. His sister is coming as well but on DL 22. Her flight arrives around 9:00 am and he gets in 45 minutes later. She does not ever travel, much less Internationally.

Can someone give me some tips to pass along to them to help guide them once they land to ensure they find each other?

I appreciate everyone's help. I have read this whole thread and there is a ton of info and I am very appreciative of that.

I will also be through CDG on March 29 on my way to GVA. Any tips on finding my connecting flight would be nice as well.

Thanks!
What class are your friend and his sister flying in? And is Paris their final destination? If so, are they staying in town or near the airport?

If they are in biz (and not staying near the airport) I might suggest meeting in the arrivals lounge in 2C so they can have breakfast and a shower. Another choice might be the lobby of the Sheraton for breakfast. If they are staying near the airport, I would suggest going straight to the hotel. And if they are transiting and in biz, I would suggest the lounge of the terminal they will be connecting from.

What class are your friend and his sister flying in? And is Paris their final destination? If so, are they staying in town or near the airport?

If they are in biz (and not staying near the airport) I might suggest meeting in the arrivals lounge in 2C so they can have breakfast and a shower. Another choice might be the lobby of the Sheraton for breakfast. If they are staying near the airport, I would suggest going straight to the hotel. And if they are transiting and in biz, I would suggest the lounge of the terminal they will be connecting from.

Thanks for your reply.

They are both flying coach. They are then going to stay in town for 3 or 4 nights. They want to take the RER into the city and then the Metro to their hotel. Any further suggestions are much appreciated.

Unfortunately, according to both AF and ADP sources it seems that the opening of the S3 satellite will be "phased" until autumn 2007, instead of S3 being operational for spring.

Batiactu (in French only) (http://www.batiactu.com/data/15032006/15032006-165555.html)
Interactive Investor (in English) (http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews&articleid=5581589&subject=companies&action=article)

In addition, the number of AF long-haul flights with a jetway at CDG has dropped from 70% to 50% with the unavailability of the Jetee of Terminal 2E.

I just put two tix on hold for a JFK-TLV flight. I'm a bit uneasy about the layover time in CDG, can somebody advise me whether this is a legal connection (I don't see how it can be, but the phone agent gave it to me...)
Arrv: CDG @ 9:55AM, T2C
Dep: @ 10:30AM, T2F (this is the flight to TLV, so there's probably add'l security at the gate).

Can I possibly make this connection in 35 minutes? If so, how? We'll be sitting in the first couple of rows of 'Y' (preferred seats for Elite Plus), and won't have any checked luggage (just carryon, as long as AF doesn't crack down on overweight carry-on luggage).

Thanks for any advice!
BostonBali

I just put two tix on hold for a JFK-TLV flight. I'm a bit uneasy about the layover time in CDG, can somebody advise me whether this is a legal connection (I don't see how it can be, but the phone agent gave it to me...)
Arrv: CDG @ 9:55AM, T2C
Dep: @ 10:30AM, T2F (this is the flight to TLV, so there's probably add'l security at the gate).

Can I possibly make this connection in 35 minutes? If so, how? We'll be sitting in the first couple of rows of 'Y' (preferred seats for Elite Plus), and won't have any checked luggage (just carryon, as long as AF doesn't crack down on overweight carry-on luggage).

Thanks for any advice!
BostonBali

The agent definitely has made a mistake. 35mn is not a legal connection in CDG. I would suggest calling back and asking another agent.

I have reserved my reservation, but am thinking of making changes with regards to connection times in CDG. I am scheduled for LAX-CDG-VIE returning ATH-CDG-LAX. Please offer any assistance you can. We are travelling paid C class for our honeymoon.

LAX-CDG-VIE--Flight 65 (LAX-CDG) arrives 2C 11:05am and then connecting to flight 1738 (CDG-VIE) in 2D departing at 12:45pm. This is a 1hr 40min layover. Is this doable?

Returning:

ATH-CDG-LAX--Flight 2333 (ATH-CDG) says arrving 2D at 9:20am, but am lead to believe 2F more likely. Is a connection time of 55 minutes from either 2D or 2F to 2C for flight 62 (CDG-LAX) departing 10:05am doable? I am not so concerned with my luggage making it home as I am making the plane.

Any insights and recommendations to making this navigation through CDG any easier and faster would be very helpful. Thank you. :)

I have reserved my reservation, but am thinking of making changes with regards to connection times in CDG. I am scheduled for LAX-CDG-VIE returning ATH-CDG-LAX. Please offer any assistance you can. We are travelling paid C class for our honeymoon.

LAX-CDG-VIE--Flight 65 (LAX-CDG) arrives 2C 11:05am and then connecting to flight 1738 (CDG-VIE) in 2D departing at 12:45pm. This is a 1hr 40min layover. Is this doable?...
This is enough time to make the connection. And since the next flight to Vienna isn't until 4:15 p.m., the alternative is to have a five hour layover. Granted this would allow you to use the arrivals lounge in 2C, but I don't think it's worth the extra three hours.

Your Athens connection is tight and you have to get up really early (which I hate, but that's just me). I would opt for AF1533 at 3:00 p.m. connecting to AF070 leaving Paris at 7:40 p.m. (about a two hour layover). This is the late flight that goes on to Tahiti on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays but those days may not fit your schedule.

Awesome thread... thanks!

My wife and I are arriving at 2C on AF33 (First) next Wed at 8:45 AM from IAH. We depart from 2D at noon on AF5154 (Biz) to PSA. (No thanks to the Italians for closing FLR on us!!)

Since we have plenty of time to connect, where would you recommend that we unwind and freshen up... the AF arrivals lounge in 2C, or...?

And how long should we plan to get to 2D after that? Our 'end of check-in time' is 11:30 AM for the PSA flight.

TIA!

Update... never mind... found it here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=536323).

This is enough time to make the connection. And since the next flight to Vienna isn't until 4:15 p.m., the alternative is to have a five hour layover. Granted this would allow you to use the arrivals lounge in 2C, but I don't think it's worth the extra three hours.

Your Athens connection is tight and you have to get up really early (which I hate, but that's just me). I would opt for AF1533 at 3:00 p.m. connecting to AF070 leaving Paris at 7:40 p.m. (about a two hour layover). This is the late flight that goes on to Tahiti on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays but those days may not fit your schedule.

^ Thanks for the response. I will plan on taking the earlier flight to Vienna. Unfortunately, I can not take AF070 since it doesn't work with my schedule. Is AF070 (747-400) even NTC? Truth be told, I'm affraid to risk the tight connection and be rebooked on a 772 OTC instead of the the 77W with NTC. That is really my greatest concern. Any other insight into making a 50 minute connection from either 2F/2D to 2C?

Security checks in 2F1 should take about 10mn, and there is a fast track lane for Elite Plus and premium passengers.

While I generally found security at 2F reasonably fast, I have never seen that fast track lane. Where is it hidden?

While I generally found security at 2F reasonably fast, I have never seen that fast track lane. Where is it hidden?

It is in 2F1, in the main security check area, not in the smaller security check areas on each side of the peninsula. It is located on the left side.

Is there a bus connecting me from 2F or 2D to 2C or can I walk it? Also, will I need to go through passport control in CDG or will that be taken care in ATH (my departing city) before reaching LAX?

Help (please). I'm arriving from Cairo on AF#503 at Terminal 2E at 11:20 AM and departing on AF #24 for IAD at 1:20 PM from Terminal 2C. What is the quickest and easiest way to make this connection (specific instructions appreciated-I'm directionally-challenged)? I'm checking luggage, have a carry-on and I'm in Business Class. Many thanks.

Help (please). I'm arriving from Cairo on AF#503 at Terminal 2E at 11:20 AM and departing on AF #24 for IAD at 1:20 PM from Terminal 2C. What is the quickest and easiest way to make this connection (specific instructions appreciated-I'm directionally-challenged)? I'm checking luggage, have a carry-on and I'm in Business Class. Many thanks.

couldn't be easier. on arrival at 2E, just follow the signs to the inter-terminal shuttle bus. next stop will be 2C. exit there and thats it. 2 hours is more than enough time.

take a look at the OP in this thread where you'll find links to terminal maps.

We plan to stay at Intercontinental at Opera House on points.

Our departure flight is around 1PM at CDG on a Thursday. Do we have enough time to take the Rossiebus at around 9:30am and still be able to meet the International flight check-in requirement at CDG ?

Or it would be better to stay at CDG airport hotels ?

Thanks for inputs.

This should be fine.

Did a search on transit hotels, didn't find anything...

Due to the MH cutbacks, Mrs. TrayflowInUK's daytime F-class flight from KUL-MAN has been replaced with:

3 MH 130 C 1MAY AKLKUL 1250-1 2005-1
4 MH 20 C 1MAY KULCDG 2330-1 0620-2
5 AF 2268 C 2MAY CDGMAN 1320-2 1350-2

So... as she is originating in New Zealand, she is going to be DEAD tired by the time she gets to CDG, and then has SEVEN HOURS' layover.

We were not able to book her via AMS or LHR which both offered smoother connections.

Once she gets back to MAN, she has two hours' driving to get home :(

(1) Is there a transit hotel she could crash in for a while? What about shower options, etc.?

(2) There is an earlier flight CDG-MAN leaving around 7:40 am... she's on an NW award ticket. Is there any chance whatsoever of her getting on this and avoiding the long CDG layover?

Neither of us have ever transited CDG.

Bump!

(1) Is there a transit hotel she could crash in for a while? What about shower options, etc.?IIRC the ibis hotel close to Terminal 3 (free bus shuttle from T1 and T2) has dayroom rates. http://flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4023219&postcount=2

(2) There is an earlier flight CDG-MAN leaving around 7:40 am... she's on an NW award ticket. Is there any chance whatsoever of her getting on this and avoiding the long CDG layover?Not on an award ticket, I'm afraid. Anyway, she might want to give it a try and rush first from CDG1 to CDG2F to check with AF if she can take the only earlier flight... (AF1668 at 07:45) before being turned away and coming back to the ibis hotel. That would be much hassle.

this morning I saw for the first time the arrival screens at the end of the jet bridge. for every short connection, it shows gate and terminal. great job ADP - a step in the right direction ^

This thread is great! Wondering if someone can help with my itinerary?
Flying AF SFO-CDG-FCO. I believe CDG to FCO is a codeshare with Alitalia. I have a 1 hr connection to get from 2C to 2F. Is this doable?

Thanks in advance!

I have read many posts and have downloaded a map of terminal 2 at CDG and still feel somewhat nervous about my flight. My wife and I will fly direct from SFO to CDG on AF arriving at terminal 2C at 11:50am. We depart from CDG to PRG (Prague) on AF at 1:05pm in Terminal 2B.

Between Terminal 2C and 2B, my questions are :

1. Is this enough time to reach my connection flight to Prague?
2. Do we (my wife and I) have to claim our bags and recheck them in?
3. Will we have anytime for a quick snack?
4. Will we have anytime for a bathroom break?
5. Should we start working on our “40” time?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I have read many posts and have downloaded a map of terminal 2 at CDG and still feel somewhat nervous about my flight. My wife and I will fly direct from SFO to CDG on AF arriving at terminal 2C at 11:50am. We depart from CDG to PRG (Prague) on AF at 1:05pm in Terminal 2B.

Between Terminal 2C and 2B, my questions are :

1. Is this enough time to reach my connection flight to Prague?
2. Do we (my wife and I) have to claim our bags and recheck them in?
3. Will we have anytime for a quick snack?
4. Will we have anytime for a bathroom break?
5. Should we start working on our “40” time?

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

First, the easy answers :
2. No, your baggage will be checked through and you will clear (EU) customs in PRG
4. Yes
5. I am not familiar with the idiom

Now, about transferring from 2B to 2C. A number of points:
1. whether your incoming flight is on schedule
2. whether your incoming flight has a jetway or a remote stand; in the latter case, add 15mn to your transit time
3. once inside 2C, you do not need to clear immigration and should use the airside shuttle, which runs clockwise (2B, then 2F2 and then 2C, so the second stop). This can take as little as 10mn or up to 30mn. You should not try to walk the short distance between the two terminals (10mn) as you would need to clear immigration when entering France in 2C and in 2B when leaving France (PRG is not a Schengen destination), which can take some time
4. once inside 2B, you need to go to your gate (5mn max) and clear security which is done for each couple of gates, so no massive queue for all flights(about 5mn-10mn). Intra-European flights do not close 20mn before the scheduled departure time, but in the case of a remote stand, you should plan on being at the gate 15mn in advance (not an official rule, just a practical one). You can ask at the transfer desk in 2C whether your flight has a remote stand (au large) or a jetway (au contact).

So, when you add up the worst case scenarios, it is doable, provided your incoming flight is on schedule.

Regarding food, it is somewhat limited airside in CDG2, the good restaurants are landside, but as you are looking for a snack, this should not be a problem in 2B.

Enjoy your flights :). I have only had one misconnect in CDG and AF took care of me in a satisfactory manner. Once you have the distinct steps of the process in mind, it isn't that bad.

Hi,

I'm trying to book an itinerary for SYD-SIN-CDG-OPO and back again in mid-May. The quoted itinerary from AF only has 45 minutes connection between arriving at CDG and leaving for OPO which as we all know is not going to happen! So I've asked for changes to push the connections out by a couple of hours (I don't mind waiting around at CDG - would rather make my flight).

I need little help with info about the connection at CDG as the last time I was at CDG in 2004 I had flown in from FRA and cleared immigration there.

I'm arriving from SIN at CDG 2C and departing for OPO and 2D (reverse on the way back)

Will I need to clear immigration at CDG or can I wait until OPO?

Can I walk from 2C to 2D, or do I have to get a bus, and how long should this take?

When I last departed CDG, there were almost no facilities (shops, food etc) on the airside, are there many facilities on airside at 2C and 2D? Are there any viewing areas airside or any outdoor areas? I don't smoke, but it'd be nice to get some fresh air.

Thanks for your help, apologies if this has already been addressed in the FAQ.

I'm arriving from SIN at CDG 2C and departing for OPO and 2D (reverse on the way back)

Will I need to clear immigration at CDG or can I wait until OPO?

Can I walk from 2C to 2D, or do I have to get a bus, and how long should this take?

When I last departed CDG, there were almost no facilities (shops, food etc) on the airside, are there many facilities on airside at 2C and 2D? Are there any viewing areas airside or any outdoor areas? I don't smoke, but it'd be nice to get some fresh air.


1. upon arrival from SIN to connect to OPO, you need to clear immigration in CDG (and you will clear customs in OPO)
2. as you will clear immigration in CDG 2C, you will be both within the Schengen area and landside. Once there, the best option is to walk to 2D.
3. as you will be landside, all food facilities will be accessible, from the fast food shops to the mid-range Brasserie Flo in 2F and the upscale restaurants in the Sheraton, above the TGV station. Regarding shops, you will have access to standard former duty free shops in 2D
4. you will also be able to step outside the terminal building for a smoke
5. you can have nice views from the large galleries between the terminals
(walk from 2C to the TGV station and then onwards to 2D, for example)

Enjoy your flights :) !

3. as you will be landside, all food facilities will be accessible, from the fast food shops to the mid-range Brasserie Flo in 2F and the upscale restaurants in the Sheraton, above the TGV station.

<snip>

Enjoy your flights :) !

Wow, thank you for your expert help! Glad to hear I can access food, especially. Not knowing CDG last time we went airside and were very hungry by the time we departed!

Hi,
When I last departed CDG, there were almost no facilities (shops, food etc) on the airside, are there many facilities on airside at 2C and 2D?

Airside at 2D there used to be only some vending machines, but thankfully there is also a sandwich /softdrink shop now.

Hello,

this thread is great! I've learned a lot about CDG and transfers, but I've still got a couple of questions.

1. I should be arriving at Terminal 2E from MEX (AF 439) at 2:05 pm on May 7th 2006.
2. I connect to AF 5044 to FLR at 3:45 pm in Terminal 2D.

I'm fairly fit, so I think I will walk from 2E to 2D. From what I've read in this thread, it should be a 15 min walk or so from 2E to 2D, right? Through the TGV station. One question I have is, how easy is it to cross over the the other side of the TGV station? Is it well marked with directions to cross over and then continue to 2D?

I've read immigration is in 2E. Are the lines long in 2E? I just want to be sure I have enough time to make it to my connection. I suppose my luggage will be checked all the way through to FLR, so I guess customs will be dealt with in Italy.

On my way back, FLR-CDG-MEX, I arrive on AF 5049 at 2D at 9:10 am, and then connect to AF 432 at 10:30 am in 2E. Is this enough to make the walk from 2D to 2E, and go through immigration? This last leg is a codeshare with Aeromexico (AM 6), but the ticket was bought from AF. If the conecting time is too tight and I miss the flight, do you think it would be too difficult to get AF to put me in the next available flight?

I've only been in CDG once before (twice if you count the return trip) and my experience was a good one, but that was a looong time ago (17 years) when I spent a summer in Nice at the EF French school (Je peux me debrouiller un peu en français).

Thanks and I hope to get some good points regarding my transfer in CDG :D

Hello,

this thread is great! I've learned a lot about CDG and transfers, but I've still got a couple of questions.

1. I should be arriving at Terminal 2E from MEX (AF 439) at 2:05 pm on May 7th 2006.
2. I connect to AF 5044 to FLR at 3:45 pm in Terminal 2D.

I'm fairly fit, so I think I will walk from 2E to 2D. From what I've read in this thread, it should be a 15 min walk or so from 2E to 2D, right? Through the TGV station. One question I have is, how easy is it to cross over the the other side of the TGV station? Is it well marked with directions to cross over and then continue to 2D?

15 mins from E to D sounds about right. Crossing at the TGV/RER station is very easy - we are merely talking about 1 minute or so. Don´t recall the actual signage, but once across you make a left turn towards D and B. And yes, you will be going through immigration at CDG since this is your first port of call in a Schengen country. If your luggage is checked through, you will take the luggage through customs in FLR. Most likely you wíll hardly notice you are going through customs - they only make spot checks.

Thanks! I'm more reassured about my connection at CDG :)

On my way back, FLR-CDG-MEX, I arrive on AF 5049 at 2D at 9:10 am, and then connect to AF 432 at 10:30 am in 2E. Is this enough to make the walk from 2D to 2E, and go through immigration? This last leg is a codeshare with Aeromexico (AM 6), but the ticket was bought from AF. If the conecting time is too tight and I miss the flight, do you think it would be too difficult to get AF to put me in the next available flight?
:D
You will have all your BP's at FLR and 1h20 is enough to walk from 2D to 2E and go through immigration.

You will have all your BP's at FLR and 1h20 is enough to walk from 2D to 2E and go through immigration.

definitely yes. won't be a problem at all :) or at least shouldn't be.

just follow the signs to TGV station, then change sides and go on to E Terminal, you can't miss it. and immigration/security is usually quite quick in E.

Thanks a lot for the information. It's great to know now that immigration is usually quite quick at 2E. If immigration it's anything like what I've encountered arriving in Frankfurt before, it should be quick and painless :) .

Another question, in the walking to/from terminals 2E and 2D through the TGV station, how many levels do i have to go up/down, or is it all at the same level?

Thanks a lot for the information. It's great to know now that immigration is usually quite quick at 2E. If immigration it's anything like what I've encountered arriving in Frankfurt before, it should be quick and painless :) .

Another question, in the walking to/from terminals 2E and 2D through the TGV station, how many levels do i have to go up/down, or is it all at the same level?

you have to walk upstairs from arrival level to departure level (can't change terminals except 2E to 2F) on arrival level.

First of all, I just want to say "thank you" to the moderator and other members' responses to the pleas for transfer help at CDG. It's helped me to better recall CDG's layout.

I will be flying BOS-CDG-PRG later this month (AF321 to CSA759/AF4900 Codeshare). I believe I will be arriving in 2E from Boston at 8:35 am (on a Saturday), but will likely have to make my way over to 2B for my 9:55 am connecting flight to Prague.

Should I, or am I even able to take the airside shuttle bus to 2B? Or would I have enough time to walk there given that I'd have to go through immigration twice and security once, from what I understand (could be wrong)? I am a very fast walker--most have difficulty keeping up with me.

Is Saturday morning an off-peak time for CDG, or is it quite busy then?

Any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Much thanks from a new member...

An interesting document - 348 pages - in French, published by ADP, to prepare its possible privatization, available on the ADP web site (no direct link possible due to regulatory context) . The overall trend is to move from 47.1 million passengers today at CDG, in order to reach 66.5 million in 2010, and 100 million sometime around 2020-2025. A summary of the most important investments currently planned at CDG:

CDG VAL landside monorail line 1 : opens end of 2006
CDG 1 : after the completion of phase 1 one of the renovation last January, an additional one fourth of the terminal will be renovated each year, with phase 4 completed at the end of 2008
S3 satellite : opening starts in June 2007 - completed in November 2007 - capacity : 8.5 million passengers
A380 jetways : 11 available in 2008 in CDG 1 (2), 2A, 2C, 2E and S3
3 additional remote stands for widebodies (LIMA zone)
CDG 2E : reconstruction of the roof of the boarding area : completed in March 2008
CDG 2G : regional aircraft terminal - opens June 2008 - capacity : 3 million passengers
extension of the PX car park - from 2007 to 2010
TBE : Integrated baggage sorter for CDG "East" : 2E, 2F and S3 - opens gradually from end of 2006 to 2010
S4 satellite : opening scheduled for 2012 - capacity : 7.2 million passengers
LISA : airside monorail connecting the 2E isthmus building, S3 and S4
CDG 4 : opening starts in 2016 - capacity (upon completion of the terminal): 25 million passengers

The really new piece of information is the creation of a new, full size terminal, not only a satellite (ie boarding area) for an existing terminal.

Details concerning the integration of the VAL network, including its extension to CDG 2G, remain sketchy.

Overall, a nice strategic vision and masterplan ^ , which nevertheless require a hard nosed implementation with a good focus and greater attention to detail than in the past. In addition, moving S4 forward to 2010 would definitely be useful.

Thank you for all of this great information. My question: I am traveling from PHL-CDG on US Airways (gold preferred, UA 1K, RCC), and then on to DXB via AF (CO gold elite). Returning DXB-CDG via AF with a five hour layover on Friday morning (8 AM - 1:30 PM). All on economy tix. What lounge access will be available to me in CDG? would it be worth purchasing a Priority Pass?

Thanks for the info JOUY31. Sounds like 2008 will be a banner year for CDG with 2E coming back online and the addition of 2G. That should improve passenger comfort greatly.

Have you seen any plans for 2E? I had read that they are demolishing the entire upper level of the boarding area and rebuilding on top of the platform left. In otherwords, maintaining the operational level below and starting from scratch on the passenger area. Is that the case?

I will be flying BOS-CDG-PRG later this month (AF321 to CSA759/AF4900 Codeshare). I believe I will be arriving in 2E from Boston at 8:35 am (on a Saturday), but will likely have to make my way over to 2B for my 9:55 am connecting flight to Prague.

Should I, or am I even able to take the airside shuttle bus to 2B? Or would I have enough time to walk there given that I'd have to go through immigration twice and security once, from what I understand (could be wrong)? I am a very fast walker--most have difficulty keeping up with me.

Is Saturday morning an off-peak time for CDG, or is it quite busy then?


Both options are possible :
- airside bus, although I have never experienced personally leaving from or going to 2E; apparently, there is a specific bus going to 2E, I have never seen anything specific related to the bus leaving from 2E; you will be remaining airside, not clearing immigration or customs, just going through security at the gate in 2B
- entering France and going landside in 2E; once you have cleared immigration, you need about 15mn to walk to 2B, through large galleries with nice views on the tarmac, one third of the distance being on moving walkways. The possible stumbling blocks are immigration in 2B and 2E. It's been a year since I have been through immigration at 2E, so I will defer to other people's experience. In 2B, it can be a hassle on weekdays at peak hours. Saturday morning in May should be off-peak. So it should be OK (under 10mn).

So, deciding between the two options depends on the time you will be arriving in the CDG 2E building itself, on the length of the immigration queue you will see there and on the time you need to wait for the next airside bus.

Enjoy your flights :)

Thank you for all of this great information. My question: I am traveling from PHL-CDG on US Airways (gold preferred, UA 1K, RCC), and then on to DXB via AF (CO gold elite). Returning DXB-CDG via AF with a five hour layover on Friday morning (8 AM - 1:30 PM). All on economy tix. What lounge access will be available to me in CDG? would it be worth purchasing a Priority Pass?

US Airways flights are operated from CDG1, while Air France flights are operated from CDG2. I believe there is a RCC in CDG1, which you should be able to use. Unfortunately, as you are not SkyTeam Elite Plus, you will have no access to the AF operated lounges in CDG2. And there are no Priority Pass lounges in CDG2.

...snip... The possible stumbling blocks are immigration in 2B and 2E. It's been a year since I have been through immigration at 2E, so I will defer to other people's experience. In 2B, it can be a hassle on weekdays at peak hours. Saturday morning in May should be off-peak. So it should be OK (under 10mn).
I have never waited more than a few minutes at 2B immigration. If one side is really crowded, you can try walking to the other end of the building. On the other hand, my waits to clear gate security have been horrendous lately. So I would allow at least 20-30 minutes for this in case you hit it wrong (2 or 3 full planes boarding simultaneously can be a nightmare--the equivalent of a full 747 trying to get though just one x-ray machine).

Both options are possible :
- airside bus, although I have never experienced personally leaving from or going to 2E; apparently, there is a specific bus going to 2E, I have never seen anything specific related to the bus leaving from 2E; you will be remaining airside, not clearing immigration or customs, just going through security at the gate in 2B
- entering France and going landside in 2E; once you have cleared immigration, you need about 15mn to walk to 2B, through large galleries with nice views on the tarmac, one third of the distance being on moving walkways. The possible stumbling blocks are immigration in 2B and 2E. It's been a year since I have been through immigration at 2E, so I will defer to other people's experience. In 2B, it can be a hassle on weekdays at peak hours. Saturday morning in May should be off-peak. So it should be OK (under 10mn).

So, deciding between the two options depends on the time you will be arriving in the CDG 2E building itself, on the length of the immigration queue you will see there and on the time you need to wait for the next airside bus.

Enjoy your flights :)

Thank you so much!! I really appreciate your experienced insight. Thanks to you, I feel confident I will have a viable "action plan" when I arrive at CDG...making my travel as stress-free as possible. THANK YOU!

I have never waited more than a few minutes at 2B immigration. If one side is really crowded, you can try walking to the other end of the building. On the other hand, my waits to clear gate security have been horrendous lately. So I would allow at least 20-30 minutes for this in case you hit it wrong (2 or 3 full planes boarding simultaneously can be a nightmare--the equivalent of a full 747 trying to get though just one x-ray machine).
Thank you! I will definitely keep my eye on that security line in 2B. With any luck, I'll hit it at an off-peak time. Thanks again for the valuable insight and tips! I really appreciate it.

Castel and Fromaget, a subsidiary of the Fayat group, in association with Laubeuf, a subsidiary of Irish group CPH, a company specialized in canopies, have just won the call for tenders for the deconstruction and rebuilding of the steel structure of the pier of CDG2E, for an amount of 38 million euros. The two companies will have 20 months, from the official notification of the contract by Aéroport of Paris, probably at the end of May, to complete the work on the CDG2E pier. The initial form of the work, in Moorish arch, will be preserved with an identical appearance and similar interior environment, although more open to light due to the transparency of the newly constructed work. Some figures : net savings of weight above 80% - compared with the existing roof, for an amount of 10 million euros ; total cost of the work is estimated 150 million euros

Thanks very much for that Jouy31! Very interesting.

Dear CDG professionals,
I will be leaving HKG (AF185) and arriving at CDG T2C at 0620 and have to catch AF1024, departing at T2D, at 0720 to Lisbon. ONly one hour to do the transit. Is it doable?

Which way do you think is better for me, to walk from T2C to T2D or to take the slow shuttle bus?

How many immigration checks do I have to get through? (I am holding an UK passport).

Thanks,
chris

Dear CDG professionals,
I will be leaving HKG (AF185) and arriving at CDG T2C at 0620 and have to catch AF1024, departing at T2D, at 0720 to Lisbon. ONly one hour to do the transit. Is it doable?
Just about, if you're lucky...
Which way do you think is better for me, to walk from T2C to T2D or to take the slow shuttle bus?
Run as fast as you can.
How many immigration checks do I have to get through? (I am holding an UK passport).
Only one, into France; Portugal is intra-Schengen.

Just about, if you're lucky...

Run as fast as you can.



Just for you to know, depending on the time you come out of immigration in 2C.

Once you have cleared immigration in 2C, provided you have nothing suspicious in your carry-ons :), you need :

- 10mn max to walk from 2C to 2D
- this can be shaved down to 5-6mn if you are really a good runner
- 5mn-10mn to clear security at the gate in 2D (the gate area in 2D is one single entity, so you can use any of the security checkpoints).


Good luck and enjoy your flights :) !

Just for you to know, depending on the time you come out of immigration in 2C.Last time (last Sunday) I arrived at 2C, it didn't take me more than 5 min to clear immigration. They had opened 5 positions at 12 pm. ^ And my recent 2C-6 am experiences were quite fine as well. I have to say that the bus disembarkation process from the aircraft to 2C tends to fluidize the flow of passengers going through immigration. :o

...- 5mn-10mn to clear security at the gate in 2D...
Which you can reduce further by one min. if you wear beltless pants ;)

Which you can reduce further by one min. if you wear beltless pants ;)

Thanks JOUY31, Falco Peregrinus, KLouis !!! :)

You make me feel better and less anxious about the short transfer time.

In case I missed the flight to Lisbon, what should I do??? Any ideas??

In case I missed the flight to Lisbon, what should I do??? Any ideas??


go to the next available transfer desk and you will be rebooked on the next available flight. If you miss it because your incoming flight is delayed - you may want to ask for a food voucher. there are alot of flights between CDG and LIS so it won't be a problem at all.

Any decent Japanese restaurant at CDG T2?

Any decent Japanese restaurant at CDG T2?

none I am aware of. in T2 there's a brasserie FLO, but certainly no japanese. I am even wondering if there's anything asian at CDG (not speaking of chicken mc nuggets with sweet-sour sauce here ;) )

JAL's lounge at 2F must be the best Japanese restaurant then.
Let's wait for a lounge report by Serpentos.

JAL's lounge at 2F must be the best Japanese restaurant then.
Let's wait for a lounge report by Serpentos.

:D

JAL's lounge at 2F must be the best Japanese restaurant then.
Let's wait for a lounge report by Serpentos.

Are talking about this so-called lounge ?
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2915/img15882mx.jpg
:confused:
only a few snack and a quite decent sake... no sushi !

Press release (English) (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/en-GB/Groupe/EspacePresse/Communiques/DerniersCommuniques/renovatedrunway4_230605.htm)

Press kit (French) (http://www.aeroportsdeparis.fr/ADP/Resources/059b38b7-bc54-46e6-991b-31c6704f2da1-piste4dp.pdf)

Flying internationally for the first time soon via AF--just a little nervous but discovered this wonderful forum which has helped alot. Itinerary is BOS(AF337)-CDG(AF1126)-VCE on 06/10/06; returning 06/21/06 FCO(AF1205)-CDG(AF332)-BOS. Connection times at CDG are pretty tight: on 06/10 70min with 6:15 AM arrival at 2E and 7:25 AM departure at 2F; on 06/21 45min with 12:30 PM arrival at 2F and 1:15 PM departure at 2E. Was very concerned about connection times and transfer procedures but have read though this thread and found lots of good advice. Just want to be sure I'm correctly interpreting what I've read.

70min on 06/10 shouldn't be a problem. We go through customs/security in 2E, cross the Galerie to 2F, go up the escalator to the departures level, go to the left wing, go through customs/security again, go to our gate. Correct?

45min on 06/21 is cutting it close. Is transfer practically a reversal of above? Or are there any kinks thrown in?

I've seen some references to buses. Not sure I understand exactly what the situation is at CDG. Are the references to (1) shuttle buses between terminals AND to (2) buses from gates to aircraft? I don't have any experience with not boarding an aircraft from a jetway at the terminal but instead having to be bused to the aircraft. From what I read, it appeared that depending the 2E gate, you may be bused to/from a different location. Is that correct? Is this true for 2F arrivals/departures as well?

One last concern re luggage: My husband and I plan to NOT check any luggage and carry our 4 pieces of baggage on board--1 handbag, 1 camera case, and 2 carry-ons which meet 115cm and 12 kg requirements indicated on AirFrance/US website. However, the ADP/CDG website indicates that only 1 piece of hand baggage per passenger is permitted with weight not to exceed 5kg. Whose requirements prevail--airline's or airport's? Will we have to check our carry-ons once we're at CDG?

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can give me, Wise Ones.

Some quick answers, ;) I am in a rush and will try to elaborate later on.

Itinerary is BOS(AF337)-CDG(AF1126)-VCE on 06/10/06; returning 06/21/06 FCO(AF1205)-CDG(AF332)-BOS. Connection times at CDG are pretty tight: on 06/10 70min with 6:15 AM arrival at 2E and 7:25 AM departure at 2F; on 06/21 45min with 12:30 PM arrival at 2F and 1:15 PM departure at 2E.

70min on 06/10 shouldn't be a problem. We go through customs/security in 2E, cross the Galerie to 2F, go up the escalator to the departures level, go to the left wing, go through customs/security again, go to our gate. Correct?

Yes. But you also clear immigration (not security) in 2E, not just customs for your carry-ons. And you only have a security check in 2F, not customs.

re luggage: My husband and I plan to NOT check any luggage and carry our 4 pieces of baggage on board--1 handbag, 1 camera case, and 2 carry-ons which meet 115cm and 12 kg requirements indicated on AirFrance/US website.

Actually each passenger is allowed one carry-on and one personal item. The handbag, camera case (laptops, also) qualify as personal items, so there should not be a problem.

Enjoy your flights :)

Actually each passenger is allowed one carry-on and one personal item. The handbag, camera case (laptops, also) qualify as personal items, so there should not be a problem.

Enjoy your flights :)

you're right, but I heard that vigipirate (anti terror laws in france) require the one carry one policy, no personal item. sometimes they inforce that policy, sometime they don't. or am I wrong?

you're right, but I heard that vigipirate (anti terror laws in france) require the one carry one policy, no personal item. sometimes they inforce that policy, sometime they don't. or am I wrong?

Well, I have not been seen it implemented on my mostly intra-European and French domestic flights :).

Arriving from Nice at 14:50 on a Sunday and flying on to Turin at 16:10 on AF.

Should I travel with cabin bags only or can I risk checked-luggage given the short connection time. Both flights use terminal 2F I think.

Some quick answers, ;) I am in a rush and will try to elaborate later on.



Yes. But you also clear immigration (not security) in 2E, not just customs for your carry-ons. And you only have a security check in 2F, not customs.



Actually each passenger is allowed one carry-on and one personal item. The handbag, camera case (laptops, also) qualify as personal items, so there should not be a problem.

Enjoy your flights :)

Appreciate the info! :) Is immigration/customs one operation or two separate lines? How long a wait is there likely to be at 6:30 on a Sunday morning? Or, of even more concern since connection time is shorter, how about 12:30 on a Wednesday afternoon? Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

Arriving from Nice at 14:50 on a Sunday and flying on to Turin at 16:10 on AF.

Should I travel with cabin bags only or can I risk checked-luggage given the short connection time. Both flights use terminal 2F I think.

Based on my experience, 1h20 is fine at CDG with intra-european flights.

I would welcome any advice,

I have booked a flight LHR > CDG > SIN in L'Espace Affaires, I have to change terminals in CDG with 50 minutes to get from 2F to 2C.

I booked using the AF booking tool and selected the top option in the list, so theortically AF are happy with the connection as it would seem to be their recommended option. Having read many of the replys to this thread, I'm getting a bit worried.


Have I messed up royally?
Is this connection possible?
Connection Assistance is offered to pax with 30-45 mins, but I have 50; would I be able to get it if the inbound flight is delayed?

I would welcome any advice,

I have booked a flight LHR > CDG > SIN in L'Espace Affaires, I have to change terminals in CDG with 50 minutes to get from 2F to 2C.

I booked using the AF booking tool and selected the top option in the list, so theortically AF are happy with the connection as it would seem to be their recommended option. Having read many of the replys to this thread, I'm getting a bit worried.


Have I messed up royally?
Is this connection possible?
Connection Assistance is offered to pax with 30-45 mins, but I have 50; would I be able to get it if the inbound flight is delayed?

I had exactly the same connection, but with the flight from LHR being delayed, I had actually less than 30mn to make the flight to SIN. AF staff were great and drove us across CDG at high speed and rushed us successfully through security and to the gate ^ . It did help that we did not have to go through any immigration check as we were not entering France and the Schengen zone. Nevertheless, problems can happen and I would definitely try to have an earlier flight from LHR.

Thank you so much for the hard work chrissxb! This is very helpful. I have a 45 min trans in T2.

Based on my experience, 1h20 is fine at CDG with intra-european flights.

Ditto my experiences flying thru CDG. Typically by that time of day, there is a 'healthy' delay on the intra-European flights. Even when having to take the bus from plane-terminal, thru security and then bus from terminal-plane, one never seems to miss the outward flight. Good luck!

Hi, I'm generally familiar with CDG haveing been there around 10X, but this is the first time that I'll be connecting from a US flight on Continental arriving teminal 2A to an AF flight to Istanbul leaving from 2B. Is it required to "enter France" in 2A and then walk over to 2B or to we stay outside of France the whole time using the shuttle bus?

Or do we have choice? And if so what do you recommend? We have about 2 1/2 hours for our connection. I'm SKy Team Elite and we're traveling Business class so I could use whatever AF lounge would be best. SOme have suggested the arrivals lounge in 2C.

I've read a lot of the threads, but I can't quite put to together what's best for our situation. ANy help would be appreciated.

I'll be connecting from a US flight on Continental arriving teminal 2A to an AF flight to Istanbul leaving from 2B. Is it required to "enter France" in 2A and then walk over to 2B or to we stay outside of France the whole time using the shuttle bus?

Or do we have choice? And if so what do you recommend? We have about 2 1/2 hours for our connection. I'm SKy Team Elite and we're traveling Business class so I could use whatever AF lounge would be best. SOme have suggested the arrivals lounge in 2C.

I've read a lot of the threads, but I can't quite put to together what's best for our situation. ANy help would be appreciated.

Well, you are not required to enter France and you can definitely use the airside shuttle. On the other hand, going landside and walking is also easy and allows you to enjoy a nice shower at the arrivals lounge.

The important point for me would be the actual arrival time in the 2A building and the time it leaves you with for getting over to 2B. If you choose to go landside, you need :
- to clear immigration in 2A (no recent experience on my part)
- walk over to 2C : 5mn
- shower at the 2C arrivals lounge : I never had a queue there, and usually spend at least half an hour there
- walk back to the food court between 2A and 2C, go down one level, and cross over to the food court between 2B and 2D, then to 2B : 10mn
- clear immigration in 2B (varies from 2mn to 20mn)
- go to the gate (max : 5mn) and clear security; you would need to be in the gate area no later than 20mn before the scheduled departure time.

So, if you have 2 and a half hours, there should not be a problem. If your incoming flight is late, well things can get murkier, but the above timelines should help you in making the right decision.

The AF departures lounge in 2B is nothing special but it does have a wider selection of newspapers and magazines than the already decent selection available in the 2C arrivals lounge.

Seating on the CDG-IST leg is nothing special either, except for the empty middle seat. Nevertheless, as it is one of the longer medium-haul routes, you always have a hot meal and a selection of 4 nice wines usually served on long-haul routes instead of the bland Vins de pays served on flights shorter than 3 hours.

Enjoy your flights :)

Many thanks for your thoughtful answer. Other than showers at the 2C arrivals lounge, how would you rate the 2B vs. 2C arrivals lounge on the whole regarding ambience, food, etc?

Many thanks for your thoughtful answer. Other than showers at the 2C arrivals lounge, how would you rate the 2B vs. 2C arrivals lounge on the whole regarding ambience, food, etc?
2B is crowded, noisy, and a bit smoky. It's open to the terminal (on a landing above the main floor) so that adds to the noise. kind of like an hourglass with two lounges sections (one smoking, one non-smoking) connected by the area where the food and drinks are kept. BA also has a section of the floor by the entrance. Older furniture (gray leather armchairs and sofas). They have a good selection of drinks (H20, juices, soft drinks, a cappuccino machine, aperitifs)--all self serve--and a nice selection of croissants last time I was there early (before 9 a.m.--don't know what time your place arrives). After 9 they just have potato chips and cookies as far as food goes.

The arrivals lounge in 2C has ten shower cabins (wood and tile), a breakfast area with nice small club chairs and tables (food until around noon is ham, proscuitto, hard boiled eggs, bread, butter, cheese, cereal, croissants, apples) and the same drinks as 2B. Theres a small smoking room, a room with three massage chairs, and a TV area.

Personally, I really like the arrivals lounge. I always scheduled my connections with at least three hours so that I could spend some time there. The ammenity kit in the showers has a Green Tea unisex cologne that my wife loves. The breakfast is better than what you get on the plane. And it's usually quiet (I've never seen more than a dozen people there, but my flights from the West Coast usually arrive later, so that may be a factor).

But if you don't want a shower after a night on the plane and you arrive before 8 so that you can catch breakfast at the 2B lounge, I suppose 2B would be OK.

One last thing: security in 2B is by gate cluster (up to four gates share one entrance from the main terminal area to a mini depature lounge). If two or more full flights are leaving at the same time, it can be quite chaotic trying to get several hundred people through one X-ray station. They will sometimes pull people from the line if the flight is about to leave, but arriving at the gate 20 minutes before the flight is scheduled to depart as JOUY31 suggested could be cutting it close if there's a long line. ADP needs to get their act together, but until they do, be aware that this set-up may cut into the time you are able to enjoy either lounge. Or don't stress it and just hope that they let people go to the front who are close to missing the flight :p.

Again thanks for a wonderfully detailed reply. It sounds like 2C is the place to go. We arrive 2A around 7:30am and leave 2B around 10am. Two further questions:

1 Is the 2C lounge airside or landside?
2. Is their any kind of expedited security line for Sky Team Elite Plus/ Continental Platinum passengers?

And don't worry, I've got a very nervous wife. She would never allow us to get to the security point with only 20 minutes to flight time; 45 minutes + is more likely.

Again thanks for a wonderfully detailed reply. It sounds like 2C is the place to go. We arrive 2A around 7:30am and leave 2B around 10am. Two further questions:

1 Is the 2C lounge airside or landside?
2. Is their any kind of expedited security line for Sky Team Elite Plus/ Continental Platinum passengers?

And don't worry, I've got a very nervous wife. She would never allow us to get to the security point with only 20 minutes to flight time; 45 minutes + is more likely.
1. Landside. See JOUY31's description of how to get there from 2A.
2. No. Getting into 2B if you walk from 2C is easy--just passport control. There are two entrances, one on each end of the terminal. If one is really backed up, try the other one. At the gate cluster, there is only one line for all passengers--first/biz, elite, no status, etc.

Since you are arriving early, if you don't want the shower, the 2B lounge would be OK for a continental breakfast.

I have a LYS-CDG-SIN flight, both flights on Air France with 65 mins to make the correspondance. i have to get from 2F to 2C. Do i need to take a shuttle bus to get to 2C? or can i get there on foot? how long will that take? is 65 mins realistic even considering i'll have to go through passport control?

This being the first time i'm travelling alone, and not being particularly familiar with CDG, i'm getting pretty worried!

Thanks for replying!

I have a LYS-CDG-SIN flight, both flights on Air France with 65 mins to make the correspondance. i have to get from 2F to 2C. Do i need to take a shuttle bus to get to 2C? or can i get there on foot? how long will that take? is 65 mins realistic even considering i'll have to go through passport control?


You should definitely walk from 2F to 2C. With 65m, it should be OK. You need :
- 5mn to walk from 2F to the TGV station
- 1mn to cross over the TGV station from the North side of CDG2 to the South side
- 5mn to walk from the TGV station to 2C, where you will go through passports control.

If your flight from LYS uses a remote stand, you should add 15mn to reach 2F.

Enjoy your flights :)

If flying on two separate reservations (BCN-CDG on AF & CDG-DTW on NW) can I check my bags through to Detroit from Barcelona? OR do I need to claim my bag at CDG and go over to NW and re-check it?

If flying on two separate reservations (BCN-CDG on AF & CDG-DTW on NW) can I check my bags through to Detroit from Barcelona? OR do I need to claim my bag at CDG and go over to NW and re-check it?
Shouldn't be a problem since AF & NW are SkyTeam partners; I've been able to do this before with non-SkyTeam to SkyTeam and an overnight conection.

You should definitely walk from 2F to 2C. With 65m, it should be OK. You need :
- 5mn to walk from 2F to the TGV station
- 1mn to cross over the TGV station from the North side of CDG2 to the South side
- 5mn to walk from the TGV station to 2C, where you will go through passports control.

If your flight from LYS uses a remote stand, you should add 15mn to reach 2F.

Enjoy your flights :)

thanks JOUY31! that's very reassuring. I really dont want to miss a flight my first time travelling alone. what's a 'remote stand' though? sorry if that sounds like a dumb question!

thanks JOUY31! that's very reassuring. I really dont want to miss a flight my first time travelling alone. what's a 'remote stand' though? sorry if that sounds like a dumb question!

Well, since the problem of CDG 2E, the situation of jetways has worsened and fewer than 50% of flights have a jetway allowing you to disembark into the terminal within minutes. Using a remote stand means that the aircraft is parked away from the terminal and that you are bussed from the aircraft to the terminal. Being in the front of the cabin then definitely helps reach the terminal more quickly than being in the back, and possibly on the second or the third bus.

CDG2 expects the situation to improve with 80% of flights using a jetway in 2008, with the S3 satellite opening at the end of 2007, 2E being fully re-opened in 2008 and the opening of 2G, the satellite for regional aircrafts, sometime in 2008.

What a great thread! Lots of helpful information.

I scanned the 16 pages of posts, but couldn't find a post that helped with my connection.

We're arriving on Continental from IAH at 11:05 am at terminal 2A. We're connecting to an Air France flight that departs for Copenhagen at 12:55 pm from terminal 2D.

A few questions...

1. I believe we'll need to go through only one customs check as Denmark is a Schengen country. Correct?

2. How do we make the connection from 2A to 2D? We have 1 hr 50 minutes, so I'm pretty sure we'll have enough time.

3. We normally carry on a roller bag on Continental. It's probably going to weigh more than the Air France cabin baggage limit. If we carry it on Continental, will we gate check it on Air France or is there somewhere else we would have to check it in? We're a little concerned about the checking the luggage in for fear that it wouldn't make the connecting flight (leaving on a cruise the next day). Is this a justified concern or should we just check it in all the way through?

4. We're flying business so we have access to the AF lounges. How's the lounge at 2D? Where is it located in the terminals? Near the gates? Before or after security?

Thanks for your help!!

We're arriving on Continental from IAH at 11:05 am at terminal 2A. We're connecting to an Air France flight that departs for Copenhagen at 12:55 pm from terminal 2D.

A few questions...

1. I believe we'll need to go through only one customs check as Denmark is a Schengen country. Correct?

You need to clear immigration at CDG 2A, as Denmark is a Schengen country. The Schengen concept relates to immigration, not customs. Your carry-on may be subject to a customs check in CDG, when entering the EU, and all your baggage may be subject to a customs check in CPH, your final EU destination.

2. How do we make the connection from 2A to 2D? We have 1 hr 50 minutes, so I'm pretty sure we'll have enough time.
You cannot take the airside shuttle as 2D is a fully Schengen terminal. You need to clear immigration in 2A. You should then
- walk to the food court located between 2A and 2C : less than 5mn
- take the escalator down one level to the car rental desks / mini-market
- cross over to the escalator on the other side : 1mn
- take the escalator up one level to the food court located between 2B and 2D
- walk to 2D : less than 5mn

3. We normally carry on a roller bag on Continental. It's probably going to weigh more than the Air France cabin baggage limit. If we carry it on Continental, will we gate check it on Air France or is there somewhere else we would have to check it in? We're a little concerned about the checking the luggage in for fear that it wouldn't make the connecting flight (leaving on a cruise the next day). Is this a justified concern or should we just check it in all the way through?

Well, you should try to take it onboard the flight to CPH. In the worst case scenario, you will be stopped when entering the secure area in 2D. Going from of the two security check points in 2D to any check-in counter in 2D requires less than 5mn.

4. We are flying business so we have access to the AF lounges. How's the lounge at 2D? Where is it located in the terminals? Near the gates? Before or after security?
The 2D lounge is nothing special. It is located at the center of 2D, on a mezzanine level, before security. You need at most 5mn from the entrance to the lounge to the security checkpoints, and once you have cleared security, 5mn at most to any gate.

I do not remember the specifics of the AF/CO agreement. But if you have access to the AF arrivals lounge in 2C, and if the time of arrival of your flight from IAH allows you to, you should definitely use this landside arrivals lounge to have a nice and pleasant shower. From 2A, it is just a 5mn walk to 2C.

Enjoy the flights and the cruise :)

You need to clear immigration at CDG 2A, as Denmark is a EU country. The Schengen concept relates to immigration, not customs. Your carry-on may be subject to a customs check in CDG, when entering the EU, and all your baggage may be subject to a customs check in CPH, your final EU destination.


You cannot take the airside shuttle as 2D is a fully Schengen terminal. You need to clear immigration in 2A. You should then
- walk to the food court located between 2A and 2C : less than 5mn
- take the escalator down one level to the car rental desks / mini-market
- cross over to the escalator on the other side : 1mn
- take the escalator up one level to the food court located between 2B and 2D
- walk to 2D : less than 5mn



Well, you should try to take it onboard the flight to CPH. In the worst case scenario, you will be stopped when entering the secure area in 2D. Going from of the two security check points in 2D to any check-in counter in 2D requires less than 5mn.


The 2D lounge is nothing special. It is located at the center of 2D, on a mezzanine level, before security. You need at most 5mn from the entrance to the lounge to the security checkpoints, and once you have cleared security, 5mn at most to any gate.

I do not remember the specifics of the AF/CO agreement. But if you have access to the AF arrivals lounge in 2C, and if the time of arrival of your flight from IAH allows you to, you should definitely use this landside arrivals lounge to have a nice and pleasant shower. From 2A, it is just a 5mn walk to 2C.

Enjoy the flights and the cruise :)


Thanks for the great info! One additional questions about the Arrivals Lounge in 2C. Is the lounge located before or after security at 2C? Just wondering where I clear security before catching my flight from 2D. Thanks!

Thanks for the great info! One additional questions about the Arrivals Lounge in 2C. Is the lounge located before or after security at 2C? Just wondering where I clear security before catching my flight from 2D. Thanks!

the arrival lounge is landside after security, before leaving the 2C terminal direction food court/terminal A its on your left.

you will clear security again in the 2D terminal.

Specifically, you do not need to go through any security check to reach the arrivals lounge in 2C. It is located to the right of the check-in area in 2C.

The same is true in 2D. You do not need to go through any security check to reach the lounge. You need to clear security when entering the gate area, coming from the check-in area and the lounge.

Thanks everyone!!

Is this flight possible at all? I believe I go from 2E to 2D, and I'm worried that if I miss my flight, I'll never get into Germany that day because of the World Cup! I'm 18, traveling alone, and don't speak French, so I really don't want to have to figure out how to get rebooked and all that jazz! Basically, I just need some detailed instructions on how to make it, and I can run as fast as I need to to get there. Also, I'm in row 18, so I'm only three rows from first class (closest I could get to the exit!) Also, do I have to go through customs/security at all? Will I have to recheck my bags?Thanks in advance for the help!

Atlanta (ATL)
Depart 3:35 pm
Terminal S to Paris (CDG)
Arrive 6:20 am +1 day
Terminal 2E
4,386 mi
(7,059 km)
Duration: 8hr 45mn

Flight: 28
Economy/Coach Class ( 18D ), Dinner, Boeing 767
Sat 8-Jul-06
Paris (CDG)
Depart 7:35 am
Terminal 2D to Hanover (HAJ)
Arrive 9:05 am
403 mi
(649 km)
Duration: 1hr 30mn

Flight: 8647
Operated by: REGIONAL CAE FOR AIR FRANCE -- AF5490
Economy/Coach Class ( Seat assignments upon check-in More Information ), Embraer RJ145

Hi everyone, Fantastic website. I am so glad I found it. I will be transiting through CDG for the first time, After doing some internet research, I was kind of worried but than I found this website. Can someone help me with some questions please ( some of them may be silly !)?
I am arriving at CDG 2A and will depart from 2C (economy class -transit time of about 9 hours). Don't have a US or EU passport. But do not need a transit visa if I stay inside the airport / international zone.
How long will it take to go from 2A to 2 C. Should I walk or take a bus?
If I walk, will I have to go through multiple passport checks? Do I need to take a train too?
Is there a lounge that I can use to relax , shower & eat for economy class?
What is the best way to do it. Is there a hotel or sleeping facility in the international zone? Please also recommend some affordable eating places where I can eat under 10 euros.
Is the food court between 2A & C located in international zone?
Is there a shower facilty in 2C departure lounge?
Are there signs which tell me the limits of international zone so that I stay in that area only?

Thanks a million for your time.

I am arriving at CDG 2A and will depart from 2C (economy class -transit time of about 9 hours). Don't have a US or EU passport. But do not need a transit visa if I stay inside the airport / international zone.
How long will it take to go from 2A to 2 C. Should I walk or take a bus?

If you cannot leave the international zone due to a lack of EU passport or visa, you can only use the airside shuttle. You cannot walk from 2A to 2C.

If I walk, will I have to go through multiple passport checks? Do I need to take a train too ?
You need to clear immigration in 2A (it took me about 3mn last Saturday morning when two 747s were arriving) to enter France, walk to 2C, and then clear immigration again to leave France. There is no train travel involved.

Is there a lounge that I can use to relax , shower & eat for economy class?
Unfortunately, no.

What is the best way to do it. Is there a hotel or sleeping facility in the international zone?
There is no sleeping facility in the international zone. The cheapest way to do it would be to go to the Ibis hotel, which is at the RER station 1, while, CDG2 is at RER station 2. Day rooms are sold around 50 euros. The Sheraton hotel which is located at the center of CDG2 is unfortunately far more expensive (200 euros).

Please also recommend some affordable eating places where I can eat under 10 euros.
There are fast food offerings in the food courts.

Is the food court between 2A & C located in international zone?
No. It is located landside.

Is there a shower facilty in 2C departure lounge?
Just one.

Are there signs which tell me the limits of international zone so that I stay in that area only?
Well, you cannot move freely from one to the other. You can find terminal maps on the CDG web site : www.adp.fr

Enjoy your flights :)

I go from 2E to 2D, and I'm worried that if I miss my flight, I'll never get into Germany that day because of the World Cup! Also, do I have to go through customs/security at all? Will I have to recheck my bags?Thanks in advance for the help!

Atlanta (ATL)
Depart 3:35 pm
Terminal S to Paris (CDG)
Arrive 6:20 am +1 day
Terminal 2E
Flight: 28
Economy/Coach Class ( 18D )

Paris (CDG)
Depart 7:35 am
Terminal 2D to Hanover (HAJ)
Arrive 9:05 am
403 mi


You will be arriving from an international flight into 2E and leaving for a Schengen destination.

You therefore need to clear immigration upon arrival in CDG 2E. You will most probably arrive at a remote stand, which involves a minimum of 15mn to reach the CDG 2E building, or (unlikely) at a jetway in another CDG2 hall.

You do not need to clear customs for your hold baggage; neither do you need to pick up your hold baggage and re-check them. You may be stopped when exiting the baggage retrieval area for a cursory check of your carry-ons.

Once you have cleared immigration and left the 2E baggage retrieval area, you need to go up one level (between the departures and the arrival levels) and head towards the TGV station (5mn). Once you are at the TGV station, cross over from the South side of the building to the North side of the building (1mn). You then turn left and walk over to 2D (5mn). Once there, you just need to clear security to enter the 2D gate area, there is no immigration control involved as you will be flying between 2 Schengen destinations.

There is an alternate path from 2E to 2D, which involves crossing over from to 2E to 2F and then walking over to the TGV station and 2D entirely on the North side of CDG2. The distance is exactly the same, but there may be more people in 2F, which may slow you down.

Enjoy your flights and the World Cup :) !

There is no sleeping facility in the international zone. The cheapest way to do it would be to go to the Ibis hotel, which is at the RER station 1, while, CDG2 is at RER station 2. Day rooms are sold around 50 euros. The Sheraton hotel which is located at the center of CDG2 is unfortunately far more expensive (200 euros).




First of all thanks a lot for answering my questions. So I understand from your post is that : I can go to Iblis Hotel and will stay in international zone.
Sheraton Hotel also in international zone. There are eating places in the international zone. I will not need to go out the restricted area.
Am I correct?

Thanks again.

Thanks, JOUY31, for your help! I really appreciate it, and I'm starting to feel better about this! Is there any difference between your suggested route and going thru 2F? Do I have to show my passport going your way instead of the other? Thanks in advance for your response?

Thanks, JOUY31, for your help! I really appreciate it, and I'm starting to feel better about this! Is there any difference between your suggested route and going thru 2F? Do I have to show my passport going your way instead of the other? I hope I don't seem too paranoid about this flight, but I'm not a huge traveler and I really want to see my girlfriend... she was an exchange student this year so had to head back to Germany at the beginning of summer. Thanks in advance for your response!

Hi - question for anyone who might have a suggestion...

I am flying from ORD into CDG terminal 2A. Ms. stx00820 will be coming from London on business and arriving in terminal 2B. We were planning on taking the Roissy bus since it is right near the hotel we are staying at. Any recommendations on where we should meet up before heading to our hotel since neither of us will have a working cell phone? Many thanks.

First of all thanks a lot for answering my questions. So I understand from your post is that : I can go to Iblis Hotel and will stay in international zone.
Sheraton Hotel also in international zone. There are eating places in the international zone. I will not need to go out the restricted area.
Am I correct?

Thanks again.

Sorry. I am afraid I have not been clear enough. There are no sleeping facilities nor hotels in the international zone. You need to go out of the restricted area.

Thanks, JOUY31, for your help! I really appreciate it, and I'm starting to feel better about this! Is there any difference between your suggested route and going thru 2F? Do I have to show my passport going your way instead of the other? I hope I don't seem too paranoid about this flight, but I'm not a huge traveler and I really want to see my girlfriend... she was an exchange student this year so had to head back to Germany at the beginning of summer. Thanks in advance for your response!

There is no difference except that there may be more people in 2F, so you might be slowed down. Both routes involve clearing immigration upon arrival in 2E and clearing security in 2D at the entrance to the gate area.

Enjoy your flight :)

Hi - question for anyone who might have a suggestion...

I am flying from ORD into CDG terminal 2A. Ms. stx00820 will be coming from London on business and arriving in terminal 2B. We were planning on taking the Roissy bus since it is right near the hotel we are staying at. Any recommendations on where we should meet up before heading to our hotel since neither of us will have a working cell phone? Many thanks.
There is a RoissyBus stop for each terminal (or, perhaps, pair of terminals--i.e. A/C and B/D). Since CDG2 is like a big horseshoe, A is the first terminal coming from Paris and B is the last. Therefore, it would probably make sense to meet in B and catch the bus there rather then in A (and ride all the way around the airport again). If I remember correctly, there is a small food court between B & D with a McDonalds, etc. that is near the doors where you catch the bus. That might be an OK place to meet. Or you can just meet at the bus stop for 2B (or 2B/2D if there's only one stop for the two terminals). But I usually transit CDG rather than stop there, so my memory may be a bit hazy.

Sorry. I am afraid I have not been clear enough. There are no sleeping facilities nor hotels in the international zone. You need to go out of the restricted area.

Thank you :)

Great - thanks for the tip eefor!!

There is a RoissyBus stop for each terminal (or, perhaps, pair of terminals--i.e. A/C and B/D). Since CDG2 is like a big horseshoe, A is the first terminal coming from Paris and B is the last. Therefore, it would probably make sense to meet in B and catch the bus there rather then in A (and ride all the way around the airport again). If I remember correctly, there is a small food court between B & D with a McDonalds, etc. that is near the doors where you catch the bus. That might be an OK place to meet. Or you can just meet at the bus stop for 2B (or 2B/2D if there's only one stop for the two terminals). But I usually transit CDG rather than stop there, so my memory may be a bit hazy.

I'm sure this has been discussed in this thread many times but this is a very long one ...

I'm arriving from TLV on AF into 2F and departing NW from 2E to DTW 1:40 hours later. I understand chances are that both flights would not connect to a jetway and would take a few extra minutes. Also, as an international to international connection I can use the airside bus. How long should all this process take (gate to gate or plane to plane)?

I'm sure this has been discussed in this thread many times but this is a very long one ...

I'm arriving from TLV on AF into 2F and departing NW from 2E to DTW 1:40 hours later. I understand chances are that both flights would not connect to a jetway and would take a few extra minutes. Also, as an international to international connection I can use the airside bus. How long should all this process take (gate to gate or plane to plane)?

since you don't have to check immigration and the E terminal is the next bus stop after F (F has quite some jetbridges !!!) you have really good chances to make it. on arrival at F you will see screens with gate information for all connecting passengers, just follow the transfer sign to the E-Terminal.
be carefull, in E - depending on your departure gate you may have to take a shuttle bus to the remote terminal.

but withing 1h40, thats an easy one :)

safe trip

Thanks - chrissxb ^

The "courtoisie" shuttles, ie golf carts, are back in CDG2 ! :)

The "courtoisie" shuttles, ie golf carts, are back in CDG2 ! :)

:cool: :cool: :cool:

at least some Delta passengers may now feel again like at ATL ;)

I've been checking Delta Flight 28 everyday to see when it leaves, and on average it leaves an hour or more late! How could that happen nearly everyday? If I land AFTER my flight in CDG takes off for Hannover, will they automatically rebook me for another Air France flight?

Sorry if this has been addressed - I searched through the thread for awhile but did not find anything responsive to my situation.

I have a 2F to 2B transfer on an upcoming LHR-CDG-IST itinerary - I arrive from LHR at 2F and have a three hour layover before my IST flight departs from 2B. I want to get to the lounge in 2B as soon as possible after my arrival and will have only one small carryon bag. Should I just clear immigration at 2F and walk to 2B (if this is possible) or take the airside transfer bus from 2F to 2B, as it will make four stops and take quite awhile? I'd rather walk, but if it is too inefficient to clear immigration, walk to 2B, and reclear security and immigration, I'd be willing to take the bus. I'm flying l'Espace Affaires, by the way. Thanks in advance.

Sorry if this has been addressed - I searched through the thread for awhile but did not find anything responsive to my situation.

I have a 2F to 2B transfer on an upcoming LHR-CDG-IST itinerary - I arrive from LHR at 2F and have a three hour layover before my IST flight departs from 2B. I want to get to the lounge in 2B as soon as possible after my arrival and will have only one small carryon bag. Should I just clear immigration at 2F and walk to 2B (if this is possible) or take the airside transfer bus from 2F to 2B, as it will make four stops and take quite awhile? I'd rather walk, but if it is too inefficient to clear immigration, walk to 2B, and reclear security and immigration, I'd be willing to take the bus. I'm flying l'Espace Affaires, by the way. Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately, you seem to have very well analyzed the two possible routes :). Both are indeed possible. (you might have only three stops with the airside shuttle if they still have specific shuttles to 2E). You will need to clear security at the gate in 2B whether you are walking or taking the airside shuttle.

Clearing immigration in 2F2 upon arrival is usually fine (although I no longer experience it as I now use the PEGASE automated immigration pass) and in 2B when leaving France is OK most of the time (clearing immigration when arrivin in 2B can take some time).

Overall, walking - about 15-20mn - would be probably somewhat quicker than the airside shuttle. But I would also have no problem taking the airside shuttle at all.

Enjoy your flights :)

Unfortunately, you seem to have very well analyzed the two possible routes :). Both are indeed possible. (you might have only three stops with the airside shuttle if they still have specific shuttles to 2E). You will need to clear security at the gate in 2B whether you are walking or taking the airside shuttle.

Clearing immigration in 2F2 upon arrival is usually fine (although I no longer experience it as I now use the PEGASE automated immigration pass) and in 2B when leaving France is OK most of the time (clearing immigration when arrivin in 2B can take some time).

Overall, walking - about 15-20mn - would be probably somewhat quicker than the airside shuttle. But I would also have no problem taking the airside shuttle at all.

Enjoy your flights :)

Thanks JOUY31. I think I'll walk unless there happens to be a huge line at immigration - I'm not a fan of the busses and it's never taken me long to clear immigration at CDG. I'll be arriving at 4:00 pm on a Saturday, so immigration should not be crowded.

One other question - if I walk, I will actually clear security twice at 2B, correct? One checkpoint at the entrance to the concourse and another at the gate?

Thanks JOUY31. I think I'll walk unless there happens to be a huge line at immigration - I'm not a fan of the busses and it's never taken me long to clear immigration at CDG. I'll be arriving at 4:00 pm on a Saturday, so immigration should not be crowded.

One other question - if I walk, I will actually clear security twice at 2B, correct? One checkpoint at the entrance to the concourse and another at the gate?

Just one security check at the gate. There is no security check at the entrance to the 2B concourse.

Hi,
My mom is transiting through CDG next week. She lands in 2C and her connecting flight is from 2F. Time between scheduled arrival and scheduled departure is an hour and 40 minutes. What is the best/fastest way to get to Terminal 2F? She has a Schengen visa.

Hi,
My mom is transiting through CDG next week. She lands in 2C and her connecting flight is from 2F. Time between scheduled arrival and scheduled departure is an hour and 40 minutes. What is the best/fastest way to get to Terminal 2F? She has a Schengen visa.

just tell her to take the shuttle bus for the 2F. shouldn't be a problem at all; time is more than enough

Well, in a way it depends where she is going from 2F, as 2F has two peninsulas, 2F1 for Schengen flights, and 2F2 for non-Schengen flights. Unless I am mistaken, you should not be able to take the airside shuttle if you are connecting to a Schengen destination leaving from 2F1. For flights leaving for a non-Schengen destination from 2F2, there is no problem taking the airside shuttle.

From the DGAC web site, in French :

Runway 1 closure (http://www.dgac.fr/html/actu_gd/region_parisienne/travaux_roissy/Depliant_TravauxCDG.pdf)

This is the first phase of the work being done, focused on the first 2 700m of the runway, the second one, focusing on the remaining 900m, will take place in Summer 2007.

There is still no short term baggage storage in CDG terminals, for security reasons. For storage durations above 6 hours, baggage storage can be provided by Bagages du monde (http://www.bagagesdumonde.com/Pages_eng/stockage.htm), with service desks in CDG 1, CDG 2A (landside), and CDG 2F (landside, arrivals level). I have used them twice already, for 2 to 7 days and found them useful. Baggage is registered at the service desks but is promptly moved to/from a secure storage area in the CDG cargo zone.

Ok, I've read 19 pages of this forum and it has helped me immensely! Thank you. I have not seen specific information for an AF to CO connection, so I'm hoping you can help. We are on AF Barcelona - CDG arriving 2F and then leaving on Continental to Houston departing from 2A. Currently I have 1h 30m to make the connection. Should I book an earlier AF flight? Also, do I have to go through customs / security for this change? By the way, we are platinum on CO and flying FC from CDG - IAH, but there is only one category of service in coach from BCN - CDG. Thank you for all your great help!

Ok, I've read 19 pages of this forum and it has helped me immensely! Thank you. I have not seen specific information for an AF to CO connection, so I'm hoping you can help. We are on AF Barcelona - CDG arriving 2F and then leaving on Continental to Houston departing from 2A. Currently I have 1h 10m to make the connection. Should I book an earlier AF flight? Also, do I have to go through customs / security for this change? By the way, we are platinum on CO and flying FC from CDG - IAH, but there is only one category of service in coach from BCN - CDG. Thank you for all your great help!

Well, 1hr 10mn is usually fine, but given the number of flights between BCN and CDG, I would suggest taking the earlier flight. I am surprised that the flight is one class. It usually is three class, or for some of the flights during the week-end, two class.

Walking from 2F to 2A is straightforward and should take 15mn, less if you walk briskly. When leaving the 2F baggage retrieval area, you could be subject to a cursory check of your carry ons, but this has still not happened to me over the last 5 years ;) . In 2A, you will need to clear both immigration and security.

Enjoy your flights :).

Well, 1hr 10mn is usually fine, but given the number of flights between BCN and CDG, I would suggest taking the earlier flight. I am surprised that the flight is one class. It usually is three class, or for some of the flights during the week-end, two class.

Walking from 2F to 2A is straightforward and should take 15mn, less if you walk briskly. When leaving the 2F baggage retrieval area, you could be subject to a cursory check of your carry ons, but this has still not happened to me over the last 5 years ;) . In 2A, you will need to clear both immigration and security.

Enjoy your flights :).

I have nothing to add to what jouy31 wrote except:

welcome to FlyerTalk :)

ps: with a little luck you can use the courtesy cars between 2F and 2A (at least to 2C, thats for sure), but the walk is doable within short time

Well, 1hr 10mn is usually fine, but given the number of flights between BCN and CDG, I would suggest taking the earlier flight. I am surprised that the flight is one class. It usually is three class, or for some of the flights during the week-end, two class.

Walking from 2F to 2A is straightforward and should take 15mn, less if you walk briskly. When leaving the 2F baggage retrieval area, you could be subject to a cursory check of your carry ons, but this has still not happened to me over the last 5 years ;) . In 2A, you will need to clear both immigration and security.

Enjoy your flights :).

In speaking with AF reservations, they told me that there is only one class service between BCN and CDG now, with the exception of 1 afternoon flight, and that seat assignments are only made at the airport. Also, I misspoke and have 1 1/2 hours for the connection, but I think I'll still take the earlier flight. Thank you again for your help.

There is still no short term baggage storage in CDG terminals, for security reasons. For storage durations above 6 hours, baggage storage can be provided by Bagages du monde (http://www.bagagesdumonde.com/Pages_eng/stockage.htm), with service desks in CDG 1, CDG 2A (landside), and CDG 2F (landside, arrivals level). I have used them twice already, for 2 to 7 days and found them useful. Baggage is registered at the service desks but is promptly moved to/from a secure storage area in the CDG cargo zone.

Do you know what this costs?

I remember paying 75 euros for 7 days. I am not sure how much I paid the second time, which was 4 days actually, not 2.

Apologies if answered in a previous thread. I did see advice at the start of this thread to use shuttle for transfer within Terminal 2 but wonder if I need to?
I have 1 hour to transfer from arrival at 2F and depart from 2C. Is this an easy walk and well signed?
Have used KLM for years but can see that I will be using AF more in the future. Already received good advice from this forum regarding best AF Business seats.

Apologies if answered in a previous thread. I did see advice at the start of this thread to use shuttle for transfer within Terminal 2 but wonder if I need to?
I have 1 hour to transfer from arrival at 2F and depart from 2C. Is this an easy walk and well signed?
Have used KLM for years but can see that I will be using AF more in the future. Already received good advice from this forum regarding best AF Business seats.

Well, actually 2F is two different entities : 2F1 for Schengen destinations and 2F2 for non-Schengen destinations. It would be useful for us to know where your arrive from in CDG 2F. Thanks.

"Well, actually 2F is two different entities : 2F1 for Schengen destinations and 2F2 for non-Schengen destinations. It would be useful for us to know where your arrive from in CDG 2F. Thanks"

I arrive from Manchester UK

"Well, actually 2F is two different entities : 2F1 for Schengen destinations and 2F2 for non-Schengen destinations. It would be useful for us to know where your arrive from in CDG 2F. Thanks"

I arrive from Manchester UK

OK, so you have two options, as you will be arriving in 2F2 :
- taking the airside shuttle with no immigration checks, which can take up to 30mn, and a security check in 2C. The good thing is that 2C is usually the first stop after 2F2.
- walking between 2F and 2C, which involves two immigration checks, one in 2F2 to enter France and the Schengen zone, another one in 2C to leave France and the Schengen zone and, finally, a security check in 2C. Walking time between the two immigration checks should be about 10-15mn max.

AF uses both mainline and regional aircrafts on the MAN-CDG route; regional aircrafts always have a remote stand. For mainline aircrafts, it is roughly 50%. So you should add to your transit time 15mn to reach 2F2 from the remote stand.

If your flight from MAN is on time, you should be fine. If you have any delay, things can get tricky. I would personally take the airside shuttle. Given the (small) number of daily flights, depending on the time, taking an earlier flight could involve a lengthy stop over in CDG.

Enjoy your flights :)

JOUY31 Thanks for that. I really do hope that the Man flight is on time, an earlier flight would have meant a very long time indeed at CDG.

One last question on this as it appears that I will be in a hurry! Is the airside shuttle well signed?, any tips appreciated.

One last question on this as it appears that I will be in a hurry! Is the airside shuttle well signed?, any tips appreciated.
Yes, it is well signed. Follow the signs for "correspondence."

In 2F the transfer area is on the same level as the roadway/tarmac. The main shuttle reads 2ABCF (maybe not in that order). There is also a shuttle that includes E (which should be avoided) and another that, I think, includes terminal 1. There should be someone at the door of 2F to help you if needed (better if you speak French but many of the staff also speak English).

If you get a gate, you will follow the signs to exit/baggage claim/transfer and then go downstairs at the end of the hallway. If you get a bus from the plane, you will most likely go upstairs, go over the roadway where the bus parked and then back downstairs to the transit area.

The order of stops is 2F, 2C, 2A, 2B, 2F in a circle (actually more like a letter "P" with the stem at 2F). By the way, note that 2F is really 2F2 (non-Schengen pier of 2F).

Probably more information than you need but hopefully of some help.

eefor jfp, thank you very much. I have 2 of these connections coming up shortly so nice to be prepared.

Bangalore - Paris CDG (Terminal 2F)
Depart : 2:05 am
Arrive : 8:50 am

Paris CDG (Terminal 2F)- Lyon St.Exupery
Depart 9:35 am
Arrive 10:45 am

May sound stupid, but i think 45 min is not enough to take the connecting flight from CDG to Lyon, although the departure is at the same terminal... wat do u think?

Also, do i have to do the immigration check at CDG, or Lyon??

And my baggage. If i miss the flight, what about my baggage?

I'm a bit paranoid, since it's my first time to CDG and France... also, i'm trying to prove to my corporate travel agent that he made a big mistake by booking me on this particular connecting flight.

What happened to the english version of the adp website? They have a slick new french version but I cant find an english version anywhere.

Bangalore - Paris CDG (Terminal 2F)
Depart : 2:05 am
Arrive : 8:50 am

Paris CDG (Terminal 2F)- Lyon St.Exupery
Depart 9:35 am
Arrive 10:45 am

May sound stupid, but i think 45 min is not enough to take the connecting flight from CDG to Lyon, although the departure is at the same terminal... wat do u think?

Also, do i have to do the immigration check at CDG, or Lyon??

And my baggage. If i miss the flight, what about my baggage?

I'm a bit paranoid, since it's my first time to CDG and France... also, i'm trying to prove to my corporate travel agent that he made a big mistake by booking me on this particular connecting flight.

Well, 45mn is doable if everything is exactly on schedule. Personally, I would definitely take a later flight to LYS, although there are only 6 daily flights, which might make a stopover in CDG somewhat longish.

You will clear immigration when arriving in 2F2 (the non-Schengen peninsula of 2F) and you will need to clear security in 2F1 (the Schengen peninsula of 2F).

Enjoy yourg flights :)

Well, 45mn is doable if everything is exactly on schedule. Personally, I would definitely take a later flight to LYS, although there are only 6 daily flights, which might make a stopover in CDG somewhat longish.

You will clear immigration when arriving in 2F2 (the non-Schengen peninsula of 2F) and you will need to clear security in 2F1 (the Schengen peninsula of 2F).

Enjoy yourg flights :)

Thanks a ton... although i still dunno abt the baggage

What happened to the english version of the adp website? They have a slick new french version but I cant find an english version anywhere.

Reply (2mn) from the web site administrator:

"Monsieur,



Le site est actuellement en reconstruction et la version anglaise n'est pas encore disponible.

Veuillez nous en excuser.

Vos collègues peuvent nous poser des questions en anglais s'ils le désirent.



Merci d'avoir visité notre site.

Cordialement,

Aéroports de Paris - Service Information Clientèle"

Summary:
Unfortunately, the site is being revamped and the English language version is currently not available. In the meantime, we would be glad to answer any question your colleagues would like to ask in English.

Is there a good place to do this? I'd like to buy 2 sim cards so that wife and I will be able to contact our friends when we arrive .

Thanks :)

Reply (2mn) from the web site administrator:




Thanks very much for the information Jouy31! I didnt even think to send an email.

I have never connected at CDG and I will have 80 minutes going and 75 minutes returning. Will I make it ??

On Friday Sept 1 I am flying from JFK to CDG arriving at CDG at 6:00 AM on Sat Sept 2. My flight is AF23. I was told by AF that my flight lands at terminal 2C.

My connecting flight to Athens departs 80 minutes later at 7:20 AM from terminal 2D. This is flight AF1232.

How do I get from 2C to 2D. Walk or bus? What obstacles may I face. Will I go though customs or immigration. I will be very tired as I don't sleep well on planes and probably very anxious to get my connecting flight. I will be flying in the business class. Are there any special lines or perks for business class flyers that might make the transfer easier?


I fly home from Barcelona to CDG on Sept 13. My flight #AF1649 leaves BCL at 3:45 PM and arrives at CDG at 5:40 PM terminal 2F.

My connecting flight to JFK leaves CDG 75 minutes later at 6:55 PM from terminal 2C. It is flight #AF8.

This is even less time and I would imagine that the distance from 2F and 2C is longer.

What is my best strategy for making this connection?

Thank you in advance for your help. I really do appreciate it. Hopefully one day i will be able to repay the favor with some knowledge I may glean from this trip.

On Friday Sept 1 I am flying from JFK to CDG arriving at CDG at 6:00 AM on Sat Sept 2. My flight is AF23. I was told by AF that my flight lands at terminal 2C.

My connecting flight to Athens departs 80 minutes later at 7:20 AM from terminal 2D. This is flight AF1232.

How do I get from 2C to 2D. Walk or bus? What obstacles may I face. Will I go though customs or immigration. I will be very tired as I don't sleep well on planes and probably very anxious to get my connecting flight. I will be flying in the business class. Are there any special lines or perks for business class flyers that might make the transfer easier?

Well, you should definitely walk. You need to:
1. clear immigration in 2C
2. exit the baggage retrieval area; you may be submitted to a cursory check of your carry-ons by customs officials (less than 5% probability)
3. walk towards the food court area located between 2C and 2A (<3mn)
4. take the escalator one level down to the car rental and mini-market area, cross over to the other side and go up one level by escalator to the food court area located between 2B and 2D (<3mn)
5. walk to 2D (<3mn)
6. go to any of the security checkpoints in 2D (they all give access to the entire gate area) (<3mn)
7. go through security (2-10mn)
You might have a remote stand upon landing, so should factor in an additional 10mn from the aircraft to the terminal. You should also note that you will probably have about 10mn of taxiing after landing. The time needed to clear immigration can vary, but as you will be in business class, it should not exceed 15mn and can be as short as 5mn. For your connecting flight to ATH, my personal experience on these flights is that you should be at your gate no later than 30mn before the flight, but I have regularly seen pax at the gate up to 20mn before the flight.

Bottom line: if your flight from JFK is on schedule, you should have no problem. If your flight is somewhat late, the various times quoted above should give you some insight into your fate ;).

If your flight is very early, you should consider going to the nice arrivals lounge in 2C, as you are flying business class, and have a shower there. I never had to wait for a shower (there are 14 showers), and you can go there as long as you have 15mn of free time. The departures lounge in 2D is not as good and has no showers.


I fly home from Barcelona to CDG on Sept 13. My flight #AF1649 leaves BCL at 3:45 PM and arrives at CDG at 5:40 PM terminal 2F.

My connecting flight to JFK leaves CDG 75 minutes later at 6:55 PM from terminal 2C. It is flight #AF8.

Same process, with the following steps :
1. go to baggage retrieval area
2. exit baggage retrieval area, turn right and go to the end of the terminal, go up one level via an escalator, towards the TGV station (<3mn)
3. go over moving walkways (2 or 3) towards the TGV station (<5mn)
4. when you are above the TGV station and in front of the Sheraton hotel, cross over from the North side of the building to the South side of the building, towards 2C (you remain inside a building, there is no dangerous road crossing involved) - 1mn
5. use moving walkways towards 2C (<5mn)
6. clear immigration in 2C, there should not be too many people, most of the flights to the US will have left, and the flights to Asia leave a few hours later, so my guess would be 5-10mn, closer to 5
7. clear security
8. go to the departures lounge located one level down, or to the departures gate, where you should be earlier than for an intra-European flight, in any case 30mn before departure

You may also have a remote stand when arriving from BCN. Since the demise of CDG 2E, the number of flights wigth a jetway has gone down from 70% to less than 50% and no improveemnt is expected until 2007 with the opening of Satellite S3 and 2008 with the re-opening of the boarding area of 2E.

So, 75mn should also be OK if your flight from BCN is on time.

And don't forget to enjoy your flights ! ;)

Dear All,

I'd be going to from hong kong to dublin in coming sept via CDG. I desperately need to make the connection as i have to sit for an exam the next morning as soon as i arrive in dublin. I've read posts here it seems i can either a) walk through 2 immigration and 1 security checks or b) use shuttle and clear 1 security check.

Which way is faster and safer for my connection? I have HKSAR passport valid (and don;t need visa) for all countries in schengan, france and ireland

i guess i'll have my boarding pass for the connecting flight ready when i check-in in hong kong and i'll have 1 baggage to be checked through to dublin from hongkong (according to airfrance website). so i dont need to approach airfrance desk during transit. i'll have 1 piece of hand-carry. i can walk fast. :cool:

Thanks all!

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Flight: AF183
From: Hong Kong Intl, Hong Kong, HONG KONG - TERMINAL
Departing: 7 September 2006 10:15

To: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2C
Arriving: 7 September 2006 17:30


Flight: AF5010
From: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2F
Departing: 7 September 2006 18:50

To: Dublin, Dublin, IRELAND - TERMINAL
Arriving: 7 September 2006 19:45


Flight: AF5013
From: Dublin, Dublin, IRELAND - TERMINAL
Departing: 14 September 2006 19:15

To: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2F
Arriving: 14 September 2006 22:10


Flight: AF188
From: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2C
Departing: 14 September 2006 23:15

To: Hong Kong Intl, Hong Kong, HONG KONG - TERMINAL
Arriving: 15 September 2006 17:00

Which way is faster and safer for my connection? I have HKSAR passport valid (and don;t need visa) for all countries in schengan, france and ireland

i guess i'll have my boarding pass for the connecting flight ready when i check-in in hong kong

Flight: AF183
From: Hong Kong Intl, Hong Kong, HONG KONG - TERMINAL
Departing: 7 September 2006 10:15

To: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2C
Arriving: 7 September 2006 17:30

Flight: AF5010
From: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2F
Departing: 7 September 2006 18:50

To: Dublin, Dublin, IRELAND - TERMINAL
Arriving: 7 September 2006 19:45


So, that's a 80mn connection. You are right about the two options you have. Let's look at the differences between them:

1. walking
- clear immigration in 2C (not that many flights arriving late in the afternoon)
- walk to the TGV station (<5mn)
- cross over to the North side of the terminal above the TGV station (1mn)
- walk to 2F (about 5mn as you are going to the 2F2, non-Schengen peninsula, which is slightly farther than 2F1)
- clear immigration in 2F2
- clear security at the main checkpoint

2. taking the airside shuttle, which runs clockwise
- 2F2 should be the third stop, after 2A and 2B
- clear security at the transfer area in 2F2

I would personally opt for the airside shuttle, as it involves less hassle. In any case, as you have probably already seen, there is a later flight at 20:40. So, even if your incoming flight from HKG is late, you should be in DUB on time for your exam.

Flight: AF5013
From: Dublin, Dublin, IRELAND - TERMINAL
Departing: 14 September 2006 19:15

To: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2F
Arriving: 14 September 2006 22:10

Flight: AF188
From: Charles de Gaulle, Paris, FRANCE - TERMINAL 2C
Departing: 14 September 2006 23:15

To: Hong Kong Intl, Hong Kong, HONG KONG - TERMINAL
Arriving: 15 September 2006 17:00

The difference in this case is that it is not a peak hour and that the airside shuttle has at most one stop (2E) between 2F2 and 2C. I would also take the airside shuttle.

Enjoy your flights :)

Hi,

Is there a Wi-Fi hotspot at 2F?
How much does it cost, and where exactly is it located?

Thanks in advance!

Thanks for valuable info!

for me, i also don';t want to go through immigration x 2 in the same day... not sure if that would attract attention from the officers, you never know. but i've seen numerous posts complaining about the infrequency and the slowness of the airside shuttles, hope it has been improved now? :confused:

I would personally opt for the airside shuttle, as it involves less hassle. In any case, as you have probably already seen, there is a later flight at 20:40. So, even if your incoming flight from HKG is late, you should be in DUB on time for your exam.

I arrive at CDG (2C, I believe) on Continental 54, flying BusinessFirst, at 11:25, and need to transfer to AF 7638 to Biarritz, departing 13:30.

how will checked baggage be handled?
what's the fastest way through immigration and between terminals?
is there any special treatment for BusinessFirst?
do I have time to stop in the arrivals lounge for a shower?
any other advice?

Thanks!

I arrive at CDG (2C, I believe) on Continental 54, flying BusinessFirst, at 11:25, and need to transfer to AF 7638 to Biarritz, departing 13:30.

how will checked baggage be handled?
what's the fastest way through immigration and between terminals?
is there any special treatment for BusinessFirst?
do I have time to stop in the arrivals lounge for a shower?
any other advice?

Thanks!

Your flight from EWR is scheduled to arrive at 2A, and your flight to BIQ leaves from 2F1, the Schengen peninsula of 2F.

Regarding checked baggage, it will be checked to your final destination, where it may be subject to a customs inspection. You do not need to pick it up in CDG, go through customs or re-check it.

As you are connecting to a domestic flight, you cannot use the airside shuttle, you can choose between walking and taking the landside shuttle. Once you have cleared immigration, if you choose to walk, you need about:
- 10mn to walk to the TGV station going through 2C
- 1mn to cross over from the South side of the building to the North side above the TGV station
- 5mn to walk from the TGV station to 2F1
- go through security to enter the gate area in 2F1; unfortunately, unless you have Elite status with SkyTeam, you cannot use the fast security track, as your flight to BIQ is a one-class flight, even though you have arrived flying BF. Instead of going through the main security checkpoint, you could try one of the two minor checkpoints, located behind the shops, on each side of the main security checkpoint. Clearing security takes more time than usual as a higher proportion of hand baggage is manually searched, not 100%, but close ... and the sensitivity of the metal detectors has been raised. (No metal on me, but submitted to a body search twice this week-end, even though it had not been the case the week before with the same type of clothing)
- 5mn to walk to any gate in 2F1

I would personally walk as I don't like the queues to get on the landside shuttles and I actually enjoy walking through these large connecting corridors with a nice view on the tarmac.

The AF arrivals lounge is on your path from 2A to the TGV station; it is located in 2C. Whether you have time to use it depends on your actual arrival time landside, after clearing immigration. I had never had to queue for a shower there, as there are fourteen available. I would not stop there unless I had at least 15mn of spare time.

This will depend on the actual arrival of your flight, whether it has a remote stand or a jetway, the time needed to clear immigration (the last time I cleared immigration in 2A flying back from HKG at the end of June, I was lucky enough to do so in 5mn as I was in business class) and finally the time needed to clear security in 2F1)

Enjoy your flights ! :)

Thanks for valuable info!

for me, i also don';t want to go through immigration x 2 in the same day... not sure if that would attract attention from the officers, you never know. but i've seen numerous posts complaining about the infrequency and the slowness of the airside shuttles, hope it has been improved now? :confused:

About the airside shuttle, I am afraid I don't know whether it has improved. When I did use it, I had no problem, but it was only twice, as for my other connections, I had the time to go landside to have a shower at the arrivals lounge.

Hi,

Is there a Wi-Fi hotspot at 2F?
How much does it cost, and where exactly is it located?

Thanks in advance!

There are Orange hotspots in the two boarding areas (2F1 & 2F2) of 2F. I wouldn't know how much the cost is, as I use the AF lounges. ADP has also set up small working areas, actually desks, where you can sit down with a laptop and use electricity.

I am connecting at CDG next month, arriving at 2C and departing at 2B with 4 hours between flights. I have studied maps of CDG and think I can make my connection without any difficulty, even if I spend some time in the AF arrivals lounge for breakfast and a shower (I am traveling on AF in J). How hard can this be? I assume there are signs (hopefully in English) directing passengers to the various terminals. If anyone has any suggestions to make my connection at CDG easier, I would appreciate it. Thank you. j

I am connecting at CDG next month, arriving at 2C and departing at 2B with 4 hours between flights. I have studied maps of CDG and think I can make my connection without any difficulty, even if I spend some time in the AF arrivals lounge for breakfast and a shower (I am traveling on AF in J). How hard can this be? I assume there are signs (hopefully in English) directing passengers to the various terminals. If anyone has any suggestions to make my connection at CDG easier, I would appreciate it. Thank you. j

Four hours is not a problem. You will make your connection with time to spare. When arriving in 2C, you should go through immigration, pass through the baggage retrieval area and you are then landside in 2C. From the exit of the baggage retrieval area, located at the center of the terminal, you need 2-3mn to reach the arrivals lounge, located at one end of the terminal, IIRC near the food court. You can enjoy one of the 14 showers, pressing service for your clothes, and a continental breakfast. There is also a small, glass enclosed, smoking area, and another, darkened, small area with lounge chairs where you can relax. There is also one Internet workstation. Please note that the arrivals lounge closes at 2PM, and that the only reason you are going landside and walking from 2C to 2B is using the arrivals lounge. (otherwise, you should use the airside shuttlebus with two stops, one at 2A and the next one at 2B).

Walking from 2C to 2B should take less than 10mn. There are two paths:
In front of the food court located between 2C and 2A, take the escalator down one level, you will be in the car rentals, post office, and mini-market area. Cross over to the other side and take the escalator up one level. You are then in front of the food court located between 2B and 2D. Just walk over to 2B
If you are not in a hurry (which means you have 5-10 additional minutes available), just walk over to the TGV station, turn left, cross over to the other side of the building in front of the Sheraton and - you are still in a building, there is no hazardous crossing of road or anything, turn left, and head towards 2D, which you go through, and then reach 2B. You will be using moving walkways in very large corridors, with natural light, and a great view on the tarmac and aircrafts.


In 2B, you will need to go through immigration to leave France. The departures lounge, also used by BA pax, is nothing special; it is located on the mezzanine level, before security. Security check is done at each group of two gates.

There are signs, but lettering is bright, over a dark background, so passengers used to LHR where it is the reverse and more glaringly bright, can be surprised, and also signeage tends to favor the use of the landside shuttle over walking. I would always recommend walking over the landside shuttle bus. If you follow the above recommendations, there should be no problem.

Enjoy your flights :).

Please note that once you have read this thread, we will merge it into the overall CDG FAQ. Thanks for your understanding.

Indeed, you should have no problem. Walking between terminals A, B, C & D is quite fast (F is further). If a short connection, remain in the "clean" zone and take the shuttle bus. If a long connection, enter France and go to the lounge. I find transfer between the various terminal 2s ( as opposed to terminal 1) much easier and faster than when you have to change terminals at LHR. Frustration can develop though when the plane is parked far away with long and uncomfortable bus rides.

Thank you so much for the great information. This was exactly what I was looking for. j

OK, here is the update for connecting from 2E to 2B. I travel a lot less through 2E than the other terminals, so I am not familiar with the security updates.

So, if you want to use the arrivals lounge, you need to clear immigration in 2E and go through the baggage retrieval area on the lower level. From there to 2C, the best way is to head towards the TGV station; you should walk to the other end of 2E (not cross over to 2F via the "Galerie"), take the escalator up one level. (do not use the elevators, as they skip the level used to go to the TGV station) and head over moving walkways towards the TGV station, continue straight ahead towards 2C, also over moving walkways. The arrivals lounge is at the far end of the terminal. Overall time needed from the moment you exit the baggage retrieval area in 2E should be no more than 10mn.

The connection back can be a bit tricky as there are gates in a boarding area adjacent to the central 2E building and gates in a remote boarding area which can be reached by bus. There is a good lounge in the central 2E building and a smaller one in the remote boarding area. The problem is that it can take up to 40mn to reach the remote boarding area from the central 2E building, especially with the new security procedures. As you will not be able to use the arrivals lounge on the way back, I would recommend using the airside shuttle.

Otherwise, walking is also possible. When you have cleared immigration in 2B, head towards 2D, go through 2D, use moving walkways to to go toward the TGV station. At the TGV station, cross over from the North side of the building to the South side, turn left towards 2E. At the end of the moving walkways, take the escalator up one level (very short, not a full level) and you are then in 2E. Go to the center of the building for passport control.



About 2E, in general, and the fact that it is undergoing construction work. 2E is made up of 3 buildings,
- the main one where all the check-in areas are located, with the baggage retrieval areas, which is 2/3 opened and has no problem,
- the isthmus, where the passport control and primary security screenings take place, and where the lounge is located
- the "jetée" which is the actual gates area, where part of the roof collapsed. The roof needs to be taken down and entirely rebuilt. Contractors have been selected and the work should be completed in 2008.

From 2C to 2B...arriving on AF on Friday morning 8:40am. Could you give me a breakdown on getting from one terminal to the other so I can determine if I have time for the arrival lounge? My next flight to Prague leaves 9:55am. I would love to spend a few minutes in this lounge. Everyone raves about it. Thanks alot.

Judy

From 2C to 2B...arriving on AF on Friday morning 8:40am. Could you give me a breakdown on getting from one terminal to the other so I can determine if I have time for the arrival lounge? My next flight to Prague leaves 9:55am. I would love to spend a few minutes in this lounge. Everyone raves about it. Thanks alot.

Judy

It's a bit tight. A lot depends on your actual arrival time in the 2C building. From there, you need to :
- go through immigration in 2C
- go through the baggage retrieval area and go to the arrivals lounge (5mn)
- there are 14 showers there and there is usually no queue
- leaving the arrivals lounge, go to the food court located between 2C and 2A, go down one level by escalator, go through the car rentals/post office/mini market area and take the escalator on the other side, one level up, where you are in front of the food court located between 2B and 2D, head towards 2B - maximum time : 10mn
- go through immigration in 2B
- go through security at the gate

If your incoming flight is exactly on time or somewhat late, I would skip the arrivals lounge and take the airside shuttle going from 2C to 2B with an intermediate stop at 2A, bypassing the two immigration checks.

It's a bit tight. A lot depends on your actual arrival time in the 2C building. From there, you need to :
- go through immigration in 2C
- go through the baggage retrieval area and go to the arrivals lounge (5mn)
- there are 14 showers there and there is usually no queue
- leaving the arrivals lounge, go to the food court located between 2C and 2A, go down one level by escalator, go through the car rentals/post office/mini market area and take the escalator on the other side, one level up, where you are in front of the food court located between 2B and 2D, head towards 2B - maximum time : 10mn
- go through immigration in 2B
- go through security at the gate

If your incoming flight is exactly on time or somewhat late, I would skip the arrivals lounge and take the airside shuttle going from 2C to 2B with an intermediate stop at 2A, bypassing the two immigration checks.

So, even if I have no checked luggage, I should probably just take the shuttle and go to the next gate. How many immigration/customs/security checks will I encounter doing that?

So, even if I have no checked luggage, I should probably just take the shuttle and go to the next gate. How many immigration/customs/security checks will I encounter doing that?
There should only be one security check--at the gate at 2B. (2B is set up so that there is one security entrance for every 2-3 gates; unfortunately, with only one x-ray machine usually operating per cluster [very rarely there are two], it can get kind of backed uo at times.)

There is also one Internet workstation.
:o 2 internet stations my dear...
and many cooked meats since a couple of months :p

:o 2 internet stations my dear...

I stand corrected ;)

I stand corrected ;)
Well, mybexperience is that most of the very few AF internet stations are out of order, so one was an optimistic assesment.

Greetings to everyone in this forum, I am considering taking AF from OSL to ATH via CDG. This will be a part of a trip to SKG for the Christmas holidays, with a different ticket on Aegean domestically. I was wondering if there are any experienced travellers around here who could give me some information about CDG 2D. I understand that no change is needed as both flights arrive and depart at the same Hall. But I have read horrible things about the terminals and connecting flights at CDG 2, dirty, unhelpful staff, etc. But I speak some french, so I suppose that this should help a bit if info is needed.
Is there a great chance of me not getting my checked baggage at the destination? What about ontime performance? If I miss the domestic ATH to SKG flight, then I have to purchase a new ticket... rather risky and costly at the last minute, this I must say. But it has been so long since I flown AF, actually as a child very long ago, and I was wondering if I should go for it or give some more money and fly OS through VIE directly to SKG.

By ISthmus, you mean the trailer park loicated four kms away on the periphery of the airport right? The one that involved another TWO busses and a lot of walking?

With four hours you should not have any problems, anything under TWO becomes hairy.

My brother and his family will be transferring thru CDG in mid-October.

Arrival 9:10AM CDG 2D on AF5049 from FLR
Departing 1:00PM CDG 1 on UA915 to IAD

From Florence, they plan to check bags to Paris and from Baggage Claim they will transfer to CDG 1. Is it still correct to say that from 2D, they will need to take the Aéroports de Paris shuttle (line 1) from the Departures level, Door 22? How frequent is Shuttle Line 1?

With the new security measures for flights to the US, should they be worried about the connection times? They're flying economy on AF and UA.

They want to make sure that their luggage makes the UA flight and so they are willing to only check bags with AF from FLR-CDG. They're not so sure what would happen to checked bags for a transfer to a UA flight departing from Terminal 1.

If I miss the domestic ATH to SKG flight, then I have to purchase a new ticket... rather risky and costly at the last minute, this I must say.
My own experience with A3 is that, in those cases, they often allow you to fly with your "invalid" ticket, but charge you a little extra; in other words, you don't loose your money. On the other hand, they have so many ATH-SKG flights that you could book a later flight.

By ISthmus, you mean the trailer park loicated four kms away on the periphery of the airport right? The one that involved another TWO busses and a lot of walking?

With four hours you should not have any problems, anything under TWO becomes hairy.

well, no. The isthmus is the area between the check-in area and the currently closed gates area. It is actually a small building, especially from the passenger's viewpoint.

Well, mybexperience is that most of the very few AF internet stations are out of order, so one was an optimistic assesment.

My personal experience is about one out of five non operational. I am more annoyed by the lack of workstations in a few remaining lounges, such as GVA, LHR (at least the last time I was there, I'll see next week). But I am moving off topic.

Hey guys,

Thanks a lot for all the great info on this thread. A couple of questions still to the experts if I may?

I will be connecting in CDG flying from HEL to terminal 2D and connecting to MEX on AM (AF codeshare) that was supposed to depart from 2E. Due to the security measures that might then be 2C. I am flying in January.

I will be flying on a J class award ticket. The question is whether there will be somebody to accompany me to the boarding gate as mentioned in AF website? The reason I might need this service is that the transfer time is only 50 minutes.

Thanks,

Niko

Thanks so much for this thread. I also need some advice. I will arrive from Bangkok in terminal 2E and will need to transfer to terminal 2D to Pisa. My bags will be checked through to Pisa. I carry a Thai passport and have a Schengen visa (will I need to go through immigration at CDG or in Pisa?).

What is the fastest way for me to make my connecting flight? Could you give me a break-down of how to do this in the 70 minutes that I will have?

From : BANGKOK
To : PARIS CDG 2E
Arrival : 6:25 am

From : PARIS C.GAULLE 2D
To : PISA
Departure : 7:35 am

Thanks so much for this thread. I also need some advice. I will arrive from Bangkok in terminal 2E and will need to transfer to terminal 2D to Pisa. My bags will be checked through to Pisa. I carry a Thai passport and have a Schengen visa (will I need to go through immigration at CDG or in Pisa?).

What is the fastest way for me to make my connecting flight? Could you give me a break-down of how to do this in the 70 minutes that I will have?

From : BANGKOK
To : PARIS CDG 2E
Arrival : 6:25 am

From : PARIS C.GAULLE 2D
To : PISA
Departure : 7:35 am

So, you will need to clear immigration, upon arrival in CDG 2E, as you are entering the Schengen area. Once you have cleared immigration, you need to :
- go through the baggage retrievals area on the ground floor, where you may be subject to a cursory customs check of your carry-ons
- go towards the other end of the terminal on the ground floor, heading towards the TGV station (5mn)
- take the escalator (not the elevator, which goes to the departures level) up one level, use the moving walkways and reach the TGV station (5mn)
- cross over from the South side of the terminal to the North side, in front of the Sheraton hotel (1mn, you are still inside the terminal, there is no hazardous road crossing involved)
- turn left and take the moving walkways toward CDG 2D (5mn)
- go through security to enter the boarding area, which is one single entity, so you can go through any security checkpoint. (5-10mn)

Three additional points :
- your incoming aircraft will most probably have a remote stand, so you should factor in an additional 15-20mn to reach the CDG 2E terminal building
- as you will have a regional aircraft for your flight to PSA, you will be boarding by bus from CDG 2D.
- as AF has transferred many US flights to CDG 2E, immigration at 2E will probably be undergoing some changes, so this is the major unknown in terms of time needed, for your connection.

Enjoy your flights :)

Hey guys,

Thanks a lot for all the great info on this thread. A couple of questions still to the experts if I may?

I will be connecting in CDG flying from HEL to terminal 2D and connecting to MEX on AM (AF codeshare) that was supposed to depart from 2E. Due to the security measures that might then be 2C. I am flying in January.

I will be flying on a J class award ticket. The question is whether there will be somebody to accompany me to the boarding gate as mentioned in AF website? The reason I might need this service is that the transfer time is only 50 minutes.

Thanks,

Niko

When arriving at CDG 2D, you will be immediately in the public area. If you are not accompanied by AF to the gate, you should :
- go to the food court located between 2D and 2B (5mn)
- take the escalator down one level, go through the car rentals, post office and mini-market area, and take the escalator up one level on the other side, where you arrive in front of the food court located between 2A and 2C(5mn).
- walk over to passport check at 2C (3mn)
- go through passport check
- go through security check
- go to your gate (once you have cleared security, you need 5mn at most to reach your gate).

Your AY incoming flight may have a remote stand, in which case, you need an additional 15mn to arrive into the CDG 2D building.

Regarding the benefit advertised on the AF web site, I have not had a connection to a TATL flight at CDG since it became public policy. I did experience it before, when it was not public policy. I would say you need to check with your AF contact points.

Enjoy your flights :)

Sorry if this has been answered here someplace but I scrolled for a long time and couldn't find anything that was current after the new security measures. I have the following connection:

arrive 10:45 from Ams. in Terminal F

depart 13:15 to Boston in Terminal 2 E.

The last time I did this direct there was a bus to the Gate which took forever, plus now the hand inspection of the carryon. Let me add I am a kind of "nervous nelly" on missing connections and the meeting in Boston is very important. I could take an earlier flight from Ams. is it is expensive to change.

Thanks for you help

arrive 10:45 from Ams. in Terminal F

depart 13:15 to Boston in Terminal 2 E.

The last time I did this direct there was a bus to the Gate which took forever, plus now the hand inspection of the carryon. Let me add I am a kind of "nervous nelly" on missing connections and the meeting in Boston is very important. I could take an earlier flight from Ams. is it is expensive to change.

Thanks for you help

don't worry. you'll make it. from 2F1 to 2E you'll walk landside for about 5min to go to terminal 2E. go upstairs, clear passport control and security and you still will have plenty of time. it will be fine :) ^

This is a very informative thread, and this configuration of terminal transfers has already been answered. But that was BEFORE the new security was in put in place, so I was wondering what effect that may have on the transfer time.

I'm arriving at 2F2 12.00 p.m. (AF 5133) and leaving 2C at 13.15 (AF 0072). That's a transfer time of 75 minutes. Assuming a remote stand is used for the incoming flight, is there enough time to catch the airside shuttle? And would you recommend me making the connection known to AF staff, to see if they can expedite my transfer?

Many thanks for all the info so far in this thread.

Sean

This is a very informative thread, and this configuration of terminal transfers has already been answered. But that was BEFORE the new security was in put in place, so I was wondering what effect that may have on the transfer time.

I'm arriving at 2F2 12.00 p.m. (AF 5133) and leaving 2C at 13.15 (AF 0072). That's a transfer time of 75 minutes. Assuming a remote stand is used for the incoming flight, is there enough time to catch the airside shuttle? And would you recommend me making the connection known to AF staff, to see if they can expedite my transfer?

Many thanks for all the info so far in this thread.

Sean

Looks as though the connection now leaves from 2E. Will this make any difference?

Looks as though the connection now leaves from 2E. Will this make any difference?

Your flight to LAX will now leave from 2E instead of 2C. In a way, it is better as it makes it closer by the airside shuttle. You will indeed probably have a remote stand as you are arriving on a regional aircraft. So factor in an additional 15mn to reach the terminal. Then, about 15mn to reach 2E via the airside shuttle, wait time included.

There has been one report on the new security setup in 2E since the transfer of most US bound flights: going through security at 10:30 involved a 20mn queue. You will be departing either by bus from the boarding area next to the 2E main building (gates E7x) or from the remote terminal (gates E8x) which you also reach by bus (10-20mn). So you will not have much spare time. On the other hand, flights to the US, and AF 72 is no exception, are always late in the current security environment.

Good luck :) !

A colleague is travelling on Thurs 21 Sept:

AF 365 PHL to CDG and

AF 1370 CDG to LHR

Any updates on connecting between 2E and 2F? He has a tight connection; landing at 8:45am and departing at 10:00am.

A colleague is travelling on Thurs 21 Sept:

AF 365 PHL to CDG and

AF 1370 CDG to LHR

Any updates on connecting between 2E and 2F? He has a tight connection; landing at 8:45am and departing at 10:00am.

This is a tricky one. Your colleage has two possibilities :
- taking the airside shuttle from 2E to 2F2 (the non-Schengen peninsula of 2F), which unfortunately, is the longest possible route and involves stopping at 2C, 2A and 2B before arriving
- going through immigration in 2E, walking over to 2F2 and going through immigration there again.

Walking from 2E to 2F2 is easy, you can do it under 10mn, and when rushing it, in 5mn. Once you have left the baggage retrieval area in 2E you :
- go through the Galerie from 2E to 2F, over moving walkways
- take the escalator up, straight ahead, when arriving into 2F
- turn right and head toward the non-Schengen departures passport and security checks to enter 2F2

What varies is the time you need to clear immigration in 2E and 2F2.

I have no personal experience with taking the airside shuttle all the way from 2E to 2F2. But I guess it would take at least 5mn between each terminal, with a few minutes' wait at each terminal.

With both options, you need to factor in the time needed to reach 2E from the remote stand where the incoming aircraft will be parked, and the security check when arriving in 2F2.

I would probably try to have a look at the immigration queue in 2E before making a final choice. If the incoming flight is on time, I would probably walk from 2E to 2F2, but I do have an EU passport for immigration in 2E and an automated border crossing card for immigration in 2F2, which help me shave a few minutes off the time needed.

In any case, there are many flights to LHR and the following one is at noon.

Good luck to your colleague :) !

First, Let me thank those who advised me about plane transfer times. I had a great vacation. Transferring at CDG has to be the most ridiculous, stressful, non-sensical process I have ever been a part of!!!! If I did not have at least 1 1/2 hours between flights, I would have been so screwed!! First, you taxi in forever only to be dropped in the middle of nowhere, then you wait for the stairs to be delivered. Then you wait for the first bus to come and if you are in business class, you get to ride the first bus, otherwise you wait for more buses. Then, you get to a terminal where you have to walk up and over to the other side to go down and wait for the next bus to go to your terminal which might mean riding up to 20 minutes as there is an order to the drop-off and if you are not close in the order, you ride around until it gets to your terminal. Then, much more walking all the while dragging your carry-on stuff until you get to your gate area which will have a pretty quick security check. Then another wait for the bus to take you out to your plane which is probably near where you originally parked from the first plane!! No joking here, no exagerration either. Plus, of all the people I encountered along the way who work at the airport, nobody seemed to be in any hurry. I'm like having a heart attack (just joking) and they are trying to figure out where to have lunch today or who did what with whom last night.

No matter what these great people on this site write about time, try to leave no less than 2 hours so you don't have to stress. Better still, don't change planes in CDG. I will NEVER do it again.

Hi,
I am trying to find out if I have enough time to make my connecting flights at Paris CDG airport. I am unsure which terminals that I will be arriving and departing from.

Departing Nov. 17, 2006, Arriving Nov. 18, 2006 8:20 AM
PHL to CDG Air France #365

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 18, 2006 10:05 AM
CDG to IST Air France #1590

Connection time - 1 hour 45 minutes

-------------------------------

Departing Nov. 26, Arriving Nov. 26th 11:50 AM
IST to CDG Air France #2391

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 26, 2006 1:20 PM
CDG to PHL Air France #366

Connection time - 1 hour 30 minutes



Thanks!!
Dayna

Hello all,

I'm hoping someone can tell me how to make a connection between an AF Thalys and AF flight. I have AF tickets for Brussels Midi-CDG-Montreal.

The Brussels Midi-CDG train is scheduled to arrive 1 hour and 20 minutes before the CDG-Montreal flight departs. AF told me that I'll have to get my checked luggage from the train and recheck it in at CDG. Will I be able to make the connection? What procedures will I have to undergo?

Thanks!!

Hello all,

I'm hoping someone can tell me how to make a connection between Thalys and an AF flight. I have AF tickets for Brussels Midi-CDG-Montreal.

The Brussels Midi-CDG train is scheduled to arrive 1 hour and 20 minutes before the CDG-Montreal flight departs. AF told me that I'll have to get my checked luggage from the train and recheck it at CDG. Will I be able to make the connection? What procedures will I have to undergo?

Thanks!!

Hi,

Thanks for this thread. It is very useful. I did have a specific question about transferring between Terminal 2B and 2A. I think I know the answer from interpreting previous posts but I wanted to be absolutely clear.

I will be arriving in 2B on Ukrainian International Airlines from Ukraine and transferring to 2A for an American Airlines flight to Dallas. Connection time is 90 minutes. However, Ukrainian Air flights rarely depart on time. I'm obviously concerned about making the connection. Since the airside shuttle runs clockwise (correct?) this means I'd have the longest route on the shuttle. I'm thinking about walking.

As I understand it I can either a) go through immigration in 2B walk to 2A go through immigration again and security and go to my gate or b) take the airside shuttle 3 stops (2F, 2C then 2A). Is that correct? Does anyone have a suggestion as to which option is best under these circumstances?

thank you.

For what its worth, my 2 experiences

wash iad to fco through cdg 9/15/06 (leave iad 6:45 p.m. 9/14) had a 80 minute connection in cdg.

Plane from Dulles got in to 2E about ten minutes early. Connection was in 2F. Signs were clear except for one point. Proceeded to follow signs (which were good), go through immigration, and leave secure area (this was a little disconcerting as exited through an un-marked door. Security into 2f was a breeze, got to gate while they were boarding the plane to rome that was to leave 1 hour before my flight. It could not have been easier and took about 20 minutes tops.

On the way back (9/24), however,

had the 7:20 flight out of rome, looking to make the 10:15 to Dulles - 45 minute projection. Got to Paris about 5 minutes early, but instead of deboarding in 2F as had been indicated at Rome checkin deboarded at 2D which was a much longer walk. Still, I felt pretty good, all the way to security which was a complete CF (mess). Very slow, indifferent and rude security, over kill - x-ray bag, entrance through metal detector, thorogh hand search/pat-down, physical search of bag. All this would have been ok, but inexplicabably the process would stop. I guess it took me from 9:35 - 10:25 to go through security at 2E. Another long walk to the gate, another very thorough physical search of person and bag at the gate and we were the last on the bus to the plane (although I think that others may have come on board later as the plane did not take off until about 11:05. The plane caught up most of the delay.

Bottom line is that I was pleasantly pleased with the signage, and would have had ample time on both legs of the flight except for the huge security delay on the flight back.

Hi,

Thanks for this thread. It is very useful. I did have a specific question about transferring between Terminal 2B and 2A. I think I know the answer from interpreting previous posts but I wanted to be absolutely clear.

I will be arriving in 2B on Ukrainian International Airlines from Ukraine and transferring to 2A for an American Airlines flight to Dallas. Connection time is 90 minutes. However, Ukrainian Air flights rarely depart on time. I'm obviously concerned about making the connection. Since the airside shuttle runs clockwise (correct?) this means I'd have the longest route on the shuttle. I'm thinking about walking.

As I understand it I can either a) go through immigration in 2B walk to 2A go through immigration again and security and go to my gate or b) take the airside shuttle 3 stops (2F, 2C then 2A). Is that correct? Does anyone have a suggestion as to which option is best under these circumstances?

thank you.

My apologies for the belated answer, as I am travelling in areas where Internet access is not a given. I would recommend a), especially if time is short. You are not dependent on the shuttle and its 3 stops.

Hello all,

I'm hoping someone can tell me how to make a connection between Thalys and an AF flight. I have AF tickets for Brussels Midi-CDG-Montreal.

The Brussels Midi-CDG train is scheduled to arrive 1 hour and 20 minutes before the CDG-Montreal flight departs. AF told me that I'll have to get my checked luggage from the train and recheck it at CDG. Will I be able to make the connection? What procedures will I have to undergo?

Thanks!!

Your flight to YUL should leave from 2F2. After you have retrieved your baggage, you need to go up three flight of escalators (tracks to station, station to mezzanine, mezzanine to airport ground floor). You then head towards the 2F terminal over a set of moving walkways, and then to the second half (the farthest one) of 2F, 2F2. Overall time needed is less than 10mn. As your baggage should already have been checked through, you should just need to drop it at one of the baggage drop desks for long-haul flights. You then need to clear immigration and security. From there, it is a short 5mn walk to any gate. As high speed trains are usually on time, 80mn is more than enough for making the connection.

Enjoy your flights :) !

This is most helpful information! To make sure I've got it right. We have Non-EU/Non-US passports, arriving in Terminal 2F2 (Non-Schengan) and exiting from Terminal 2A (Non-Schengan).

When leaving the plane at 2F2, we look for the inter-terminal shuttle bus ~ also known as navette correspondence or the airside shuttle. Are there signs for this bus - stairs - how will we find it?

Once we aboard the bus, it will take us from 2F, 2C, to 2A.

Then we clear security and our flight. 1 hour 45 minutes should do it....

Thank you kindly.

This is most helpful information! To make sure I've got it right. We have Non-EU/Non-US passports, arriving in Terminal 2F2 (Non-Schengan) and exiting from Terminal 2A (Non-Schengan).

When leaving the plane at 2F2, we look for the inter-terminal shuttle bus ~ also known as navette correspondence or the airside shuttle. Are there signs for this bus - stairs - how will we find it?

Once we aboard the bus, it will take us from 2F, 2C, to 2A.

Then we clear security and our flight. 1 hour 45 minutes should do it....

Thank you kindly.

Right. To find the airside shuttle, follow the signs for transfer/connections. The shuttle should be down a flight of stairs, one level down from the level you arrive from the jetways, actually on the tarmac level. There is a difference in the security screenings when you leave from 2A, depending on the destination, ie US or non-US.

Enjoy your flights :).

What a fantastic thread! I knew I could count on the FT gurus.


In a few weeks my husband and I will be taking our first AF flight and will be transfering in CDG.

I am worried bc I have heard nothing but warnings and my cousin (who runs marathons) told me he has to jaunt through the terminals and barely makes his flights.


On our outbound we arrive in CDG 2E at 11:05 on a Saturday (from LAX) and will be catching a 12:45 flight to Vienna in 2D.

Any advice on the best route?

Returning we arrive from Vienna at CDG in 2D at 14:35 and have a little more time to catch our 16:30 flight to LAX in 2E.


Again-- thanks so much for any advice you can give us.

first, don't worry about this :)

on both connections you have more than enough time. On arrival at 2E, just go landside and walk to 2D. Pass security in 2D as late as possible, there's not much you can do airside. walking time is max 15min.

when you arrive at 2D, just do it in the opposite way, follow the signs to TGV train station / 2E and you'll be fine.

on both connections, your luggage - if you have any - will be checked thru to your final destination. if you have more questions on a specific part of your travel, you found the best place to ask for :)

I discovered this evening that, at the RER station in CDG2, the Transilien automated machines which deliver tickets for the Paris region now have a sign, stating in English, that credit cards issued outside France with a magnetic stripe can now be used. :) Nice enhancement and good coordination between ADP, SNCF and AF.

I would love some advice - I've never been in CDG. My 90 year old mother and I will be taking AF 7711 from NCE to CDG, arriving at 9:10am on Sunday Nov 5 - I have requested a wheelchair to meet her to transfer from the NCE flight to her CDG-LAX flight on AF 74 at 4:30pm. She has plenty of time and because we are traveling in B/E I assume she will be able to wait in the AF lounge until her flight. But I am confirmed on AF 374 to DTW at 10:20am. Any tips on how to make my connection? I believe they are in different terminals, but I'm not sure which ones. Will the wheelchair assist person be able to help me get thru faster or should I kiss mom good-bye when we land and run?

I am waitlisted for DL flights at10:40 and 11am back to JFK. Would either make a significant difference if I do clear?

Paris CDG terminal transit times


Hi,
I am trying to find out if I have enough time to make my connecting flights at Paris CDG airport. I am unsure which terminals that I will be arriving and departing from.

Departing Nov. 17, 2006, Arriving Nov. 18, 2006 8:20 AM
PHL to CDG Air France #365

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 18, 2006 10:05 AM
CDG to IST Air France #1590

Connection time - 1 hour 45 minutes

-------------------------------

Departing Nov. 26, Arriving Nov. 26th 11:50 AM
IST to CDG Air France #2391

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 26, 2006 1:20 PM
CDG to PHL Air France #366

Connection time - 1 hour 30 minutes



Thanks!!
Dayna

Paris CDG terminal transit times


Hi,
I am trying to find out if I have enough time to make my connecting flights at Paris CDG airport. I am unsure which terminals that I will be arriving and departing from.

Departing Nov. 17, 2006, Arriving Nov. 18, 2006 8:20 AM
PHL to CDG Air France #365

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 18, 2006 10:05 AM
CDG to IST Air France #1590

Connection time - 1 hour 45 minutes

-------------------------------

Departing Nov. 26, Arriving Nov. 26th 11:50 AM
IST to CDG Air France #2391

Connecting flight:
Departing Nov. 26, 2006 1:20 PM
CDG to PHL Air France #366

Connection time - 1 hour 30 minutes



Thanks!!
Dayna

Answered in PM.

I would love some advice - I've never been in CDG. My 90 year old mother and I will be taking AF 7711 from NCE to CDG, arriving at 9:10am on Sunday Nov 5 - I have requested a wheelchair to meet her to transfer from the NCE flight to her CDG-LAX flight on AF 74 at 4:30pm. She has plenty of time and because we are traveling in B/E I assume she will be able to wait in the AF lounge until her flight. But I am confirmed on AF 374 to DTW at 10:20am. Any tips on how to make my connection? I believe they are in different terminals, but I'm not sure which ones. Will the wheelchair assist person be able to help me get thru faster or should I kiss mom good-bye when we land and run?

I am waitlisted for DL flights at10:40 and 11am back to JFK. Would either make a significant difference if I do clear?

Sorry for the late answer. Too much travelling ;) .

So, your flight from NCE arrives in 2F. I don't think the wheelchair assist person can be of any use to you (your mother, BTW, can of course use the AF lounges when flying B/E).

So you need to hurry through the baggage retrieval area in 2F (5mn from the jetway in 2F), rush through the exit straight into the Galerie linking 2F and 2E (5mn) and take the elevator up to the departures level (2mn) where you head towards passport control and security check.

After these two checks, you either go to the remote terminal, satellite H for gates E8x or to the standard boarding area for gates E7x.

If your connection is short and your departure gate is at the remote terminal, AF could decide to bus you directly from 2F to the remote terminal, where you would clear immigrfation and security.

Regarding the 10:40 or 11:00 flights, I would say it is always useful if you can increase your margin of error.

Enjoy your flights :)

I will be flying from Toronto to Singapore via Paris on two seperate PNR's this December 16.

Will I be ok if I am on a seperate ticket, connecting via terminal 2A to terminal 1 and reverse. The first journey I arrive from Toronto at terminal 2A at 08.15, and depart for Singapore via Frankfurt on LH from terminal 1 at 15.15. I don't see this as being a problem, although it's December 16 - holiday season and I am on a seperate ticket for the second leg to Frankfurt.

On the return, I fly into terminal 1 at 08.50, and have a departing flight on AC from 2A at 11.30. Will this be enough time to transfer terminals and check-in for the international flight?