Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer - VS/SQ RTW question:

Under the rules for the SQ/VS round the world,

"Travel must be in a continuous global direction either East or Westbound. (no backtracking)."

Would this routing be valid:

LAX-NRT-SIN-JNB-LHR-LAX?

Or is SIN-JNB-LHR considered not a continuous global direction?

Under the rules for the SQ/VS round the world,

"Travel must be in a continuous global direction either East or Westbound. (no backtracking)."

Would this routing be valid:

LAX-NRT-SIN-JNB-LHR-LAX?

Or is SIN-JNB-LHR considered not a continuous global direction?


I have been informed that this fare allows SFO-HKG-SYD, even though SYD is east of HKG.

Under the rules for the SQ/VS round the world,

"Travel must be in a continuous global direction either East or Westbound. (no backtracking)."

Would this routing be valid:

LAX-NRT-SIN-JNB-LHR-LAX?

Or is SIN-JNB-LHR considered not a continuous global direction?
LHR is west of JNB is west of SIN. This meets the letter of the rule.

Oops.

If you did have any backtracking issues on one of these tickets then it may be worth considering SQ/NZ/VS Escapade RTW which does allow backtracking.

Can someone let me know where to find out on-line about such VS/SQ or VS/NZ/SQ RTW fares ? I do not think the SQ on-line booking system lets you book or look up such a routing fare.

On www.singaporeair.com select "promotions" (near top right), then country "UK & Ireland".

On the left hand side underneath heading local links is "round the world". Select this and it brings up the info.

Not bookable on line but you can see fares etc.

SQ agent just told me that travel via Africa is not allowed on this fare. But she was a bit unsure of herself.

With The Great Escapade fare on VS/SQ/NZ your routing LAX-NRT-SIN-JNB-LHR-LAX is quite simple and perfectly valid. So long as it includes only one transpacific and one transatlantic sector you can go in any direction and it doesn't have to be in a continuous direction. AFAIK that's the only VS and SQ RTW product currently on offer.

With The Great Escapade fare on VS/SQ/NZ your routing LAX-NRT-SIN-JNB-LHR-LAX is quite simple and perfectly valid. So long as it includes only one transpacific and one transatlantic sector you can go in any direction and it doesn't have to be in a continuous direction. AFAIK that's the only VS and SQ RTW product currently on offer.

No, there is a VS/SQ RTW fare that does not include NZ.

I've got a few more questions regarding a RTW trip with VS/SQ/NZ.
The routing:
VS: LHR-NRT
SQ: NRT-BKK-(SIN)-SYD
NZ: SYD-(AKL)-NAN-RAR-PPT-LAX
overland LAX-JFK
SQ: JFK-FRA
overland FRA-LHR

I'd like to credit all the miles to BMI DC. BMI states that on VS, several economy booking classes (V, N, X) do not earn miles on specific routes such as LHR-NRT

1) in which booking classes is the escapade booked on VS/SQ/NZ in economy?
2) can the last leg be "overland" FRA-LHR?

1) in which booking classes is the escapade booked on VS/SQ/NZ in economy?
2) can the last leg be "overland" FRA-LHR?

1) VS is Q, SQ is M, NZ is Q and MI is Y.

2) There is nothing I can see in the rules that forbids that.

I've got a few more questions regarding a RTW trip with VS/SQ/NZ.
The routing:
VS: LHR-NRT
SQ: NRT-BKK-(SIN)-SYD
NZ: SYD-(AKL)-NAN-RAR-PPT-LAX
overland LAX-JFK
SQ: JFK-FRA
overland FRA-LHR
Can't do NRT, then BKK. As you're backtracking. NRT is east of BKK and SIN. You'd have to forgo NRT on this RTW. You can literally only do LHR-DEL (VS)-SIN-SYD(SQ)-AKL-NAN-RAR-PPT-LAX// JFK-LHR. You can't go JFK-FRA as you've exceeded your original starting point.


2) can the last leg be "overland" FRA-LHR?
No. See above.

Watch for schedule in the south pacific NAN-RAR-PPT, as some of these flights are only a few times a week.

Can't do NRT, then BKK. As you're backtracking. NRT is east of BKK and SIN. You'd have to forgo NRT on this RTW. You can literally only do LHR-DEL (VS)-SIN-SYD(SQ)-AKL-NAN-RAR-PPT-LAX// JFK-LHR. You can't go JFK-FRA as you've exceeded your original starting point.



This puzzles me as it is the complete contrary to MANFlyer's earlier statement that backtracking is allowed on the Escapade RTW (VS/SQ/NZ). :confused:

Watch for schedule in the south pacific NAN-RAR-PPT, as some of these flights are only a few times a week.

Very good advice! I found out that NAN-RAR is only served once a week on NZ.
As a sidenote, even though this route is only served once a week, according to my plans, it happens to be right on my birthday when I'll get on the plane at NAN, then cross the date line and arrive one day before my birthday at RAR. Thus I could celebrate my birthday twice next year.

Hi,

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but I thought it would be better to keep all the VS/SQ RTW questions in one thread for searching.

Is a connection (not a stopover) that backtracks allowed on the VS/SQ RTW? I want to do the following route if possible:

EWR-(SIN)-MNL/HKG-(SIN)-MAA/BOM-LHR-EWR

Thoughts? The SQ office in the US is not open yet, so I figured I'd go to the experts!

Thanks,
B

All your queries, answered HERE .

All your queries, answered HERE .


That's excellent to have, thanks!

But, that's not the same as the simple VS/SQ RTW that doesn't include NZ, right? The VS/SQ RTW doesn't allow back-tracking while the VS/SQ/NZ does. I'm trying to see if this can be done on the cheap versus the more expensive Escapade (VS/SQ/NZ) RTW.

Thanks,
B

That's excellent to have, thanks!

But, that's not the same as the simple VS/SQ RTW that doesn't include NZ, right? The VS/SQ RTW doesn't allow back-tracking while the VS/SQ/NZ does. I'm trying to see if this can be done on the cheap versus the more expensive Escapade (VS/SQ/NZ) RTW.

Thanks,
B

Believe it or not, but the SQ/VS and the SQ/VS/NZ has the SAME fares.. the last time I looked at it. SQ/VS only offered from certain countries. But your initial routing question: EWR-(SIN)-MNL/HKG-(SIN)-MAA/BOM-LHR-EWR

No it's not possible to do that on SQ/VS. If you consider EWR westward to SIN, then flying from SIN-MNL is going backwards.

When I looked last week the SQ/VS RTW did not have the same pricing as the SQ/VS/NZ RTW - how do I know. Well I booked the former and the latter was approx AUD$1k more (for the time I am going). And talk about strict backtracking and no common sense- I couldn't use the JFK -Sin via Frankfort flight even though I would not be deplanning at Fra. Had to use the direct EWR-SIN flight even though the destination for each flight is exactly the same (I come into JFK from LHR so they said going to SIN via Europe even though not getting off was backtracking). :mad: