Hilton HHonors - Turtle Bay Hilton ????

Is this no more, or am I just off my rocker and living in the past?

This nicely located hotel is still there, has been very nicely refurbed but unfortunately it is not owned/managed by Hilton anymore. I believe this is it http://www.turtlebayresort.com/

MisterNice

Nice to see your posts again MisterNice.

The Turtle Bay resort is the same hotel "featured" in the FOX show "North Shore." Of course, most of the set was created at the Diamond Head facility, but the grounds were still all the same. It's been awhile since the Hilton sold it...

It's been awhile since the Hilton sold it...

How sure are you that Hilton ever owned it? I recall that in 1992 I was the management's guest on a "fam trip", as a precursor to booking a big meeting there. At the time the hotel was owned by the people who make Asahi Beer, and Hilton had a management contract only.

BTW, we did not book the meeting there. Too far from HNL, and we needed some place near a large choice of off-site actvities (outside of golf).

How sure are you that Hilton ever owned it? I recall that in 1992 I was the management's guest on a "fam trip", as a precursor to booking a big meeting there. At the time the hotel was owned by the people who make Asahi Beer, and Hilton had a management contract only.

BTW, we did not book the meeting there. Too far from HNL, and we needed some place near a large choice of off-site actvities (outside of golf).
Ah yes, you're right. I meant "It's been awhile since Hilton gave up management..."

IIRC, Hilton turned it over in 2001 while under ownership of Oaktree Capital and Honolulu firm Bill Mills Development Co. (Japan-based Kuilima Resort Co. owned the resort till 1999 and the Asahi Beer Company prior). Then, Mills left the partnership, leaving Oaktree Capital as sole owners. The hotel is currently managed by Benchmark Hospitality. Though I'm not too sure if Oaktree Capital had sold the hotel since or if they're the current owners.

IIRC, Hilton turned it over in 2001 while under ownership of Oaktree Capital and Honolulu firm Bill Mills Development Co. (Japan-based Kuilima Resort Co. owned the resort till 1999 and the Asahi Beer Company prior). Then, Mills left the partnership, leaving Oaktree Capital as sole owners. The hotel is currently managed by Benchmark Hospitality. Though I'm not too sure if Oaktree Capital had sold the hotel since or if they're the current owners.

Dating myself here (although I was only 9 or 10 at the time), but I first stayed here with my parents the year the place opened as Del Webb's Kuilima. Slippers, do you know if Webb was ever the owner, or was he just the developer?

I agree..I miss this hotel too!! The northshore is so much nicer than Waikiki. oh well...

"......Gyves wishes she had never heard of Turtle Bay Hotel. An assistant district attorney with the Orange County District Attorney's Office in California, Gyves says Turtle Bay improperly billed her credit card more than $600 weeks after the event was over and after she had paid her resort bill. The event's producer, Aloha Productions, believes that 15 to 20 other people also were charged the same amount.

Turtle Bay's stated reason: Aloha Productions failed to pay the balance of what it owed Turtle Bay for costs related to the event. Instead of settling the dispute with Aloha Productions, Turtle Bay charged the guests an additional $602.66 each to help recoup the roughly $46,000 the resort says it is owed. Gyves, who called the charge "appalling" and illegal, said it is the equivalent of charging wedding guests for the bride and groom's unpaid reception bill.

"I keep trying to say to them, 'We weren't parties to the contract. We were just guests at the hotel,'" said Gyves, who prosecutes Southern California gangs for a living. "It's just not legal; you can't hold third parties liable for a contract."......" http://starbulletin.com/2005/06/17/news/index.html

MisterNice

Dating myself here (although I was only 9 or 10 at the time), but I first stayed here with my parents the year the place opened as Del Webb's Kuilima. Slippers, do you know if Webb was ever the owner, or was he just the developer?

Unaware of ownership history, but it was indeed opened as "Del Webb's Kuilima Resort." The same guy who built Benny Siegal's Flamingo in Vegas. In fact, the original plans for Kuilima called for a full-scale hotel/casino.

I stayed there in 2001 and it was the Hilton Turtle Bay. It was nice but in renovation and many of the activites were close ( Jacuzzi/pool, etc..)
I loved the location of that hotel and actually thinking of getting married there next May. Too bad it is not a hilton anymore, I could had use my points!! :D