MilesBuzz! - The List

To make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g. 0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.

For reference please read: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/001751.html

Until June 10th 2001 FlyerTalkers who consider themselves fit to join may do so by submitting a brief (or verbose) email message to myself or Empress, who have agreed to master the selection process.

After June 10th membership is by invitation only.

It is (needless to say) necessary to prevent any unwanted elements from joining the list.

Have a nice day.


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Goldlust

Goldlust and Empress,

Thank you (bowing on bended knee to Empress) for taking the initiative on this.

William

Great initiative. Thanks. You've got mail.

Great idea!!! Thanks!!! I wonder if there's a way to keep people informed of the lists's existence by putting a message on the Mileage Run board permanently - this is something that will grow in value by getting larger (assuming of course that the monitoring people continue to be excluded).

You have mail!

Thanks for taking care of the list - you have mail. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Please add me to the list. Thank you!

I am very visible, but hard to run down.

BEEP! BEEP!

You have mail! If you need any help with anything...I'd be happy to assist. I have a lot of time on my hands here at work.

You have mail! If you need any help with anything...I'd be happy to assist. I have a lot of time on my hands here at work.

Thanks for taking this on. You have mail.

Hobmom

Just for kicks, I would like to be included on The List.

Just wondering - - with the anonymity of e-mail addresses, how are you planning to exclude the "monitors"?

[This message has been edited by cactuspete (edited 06-01-2001).]

Goldlust,

You have mail.

Goldlust,

I'm sure I'm not worthy, but, you've got mail.

Goldlust,

I am really not worthy, but...you have mail.

Mailtime.

Goldlust,

You've got mail.

You've got mail...

Goldlust,

You've got mail!

You will get mail.

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Rob

Goldlust & Empress -- more mail! Thanks for doin' this!

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Well, I may be new, but I like to give back what help I get (if and when I can), so count me in! Thanks for taking on this task!!!

Goldlust...you've got more mail!

Oops!

[This message has been edited by milesforlife (edited 05-14-2001).]

No problem for doing this guys.... we just hope that this will work to our advantage.

Originally posted by cactuspete:
Just wondering - - with the anonymity of e-mail addresses, how are you planning to exclude the "monitors"?

Goldlust and myself have developed a set of guidelines to which we use to determine whether you will be added to the list. We will not say what they are as those "monitors" will simply try their best to follow it before sending us their request.

We certainly try our best to make sure that everyone on the list initially is not someone monitoring the boards. However, it's up to all of the people on the list to keep it spy-free as we have no control on who the email will be forwarded to once we send it out.

Let's make this work guys! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Empress (edited 05-14-2001).]

Goldlust,
Please put me on the list; I'll also email.
Thanks.

Secret emails, access by invitation only -- I guess it's official, I've joined a CULT – some people drink, some people smoke – I get my highs looking for travel deals and I love every minute of it!!!

You've got mail!

You have mail

I don't want to join your club, but if anyone is interest the London Hilton Metropole, have decided that next Monday is a Public Holiday in the UK (it is actually the Monday after).

The website is offering Bank Holiday Rates: for Sunday 20th May, rooms from GBP 40 and a King Executive Suite at GBP 89. Instead of about GBP 150 and GBP 290.

Catch them while you can!

Nick

Oh my ... a secret society of airline travelers ! Is this like the Racoon Lodge, The Heman Womanhaters Club or the Covetant
of the Ark and Milehigh Club ? You definitely got MALE from me ! THANKS !!!!!

You've got mail! Thanks for taking on this task http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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I wish I were 1,000 miles away

Mail from Me too!!!!!!!!!

UHM

You have even more mail http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Alas one more milage fanatic to add to your mailing list!!


Thanks.......great idea!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Bob

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AA..just plain old Platinum
AOL Instant Messenger# bobcharlap
bob2@techie.com

Sounds like a great idea. I would like to join the group.

Is there going to be secret handshake or code word greeting to recogize one another?

Thanks for your hard work!!!

More mail. Hopefully worthy by reason of having actually attended a few gatherings and therefore being a real person with only one name(!!)...Thanks for doing this!

Great Idea!

You've got mail. Please sign me up



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TucsonSam

Once again, you've got mail. I can't wait to see how you determine worthiness. Maybe it's some sort of medieval scale with a duck on one side... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

You've got mail from me too. Thanks! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

You'll have more mail.

Even more mail.

Goldlust and Empress,

I really appreciate your efforts, but I'm not sure if this is a good idea.

First, we must avoid unwanted company, so the list will be very restricted. Since "paranoid" is the keyword, none of the 2001 registered members (hey, that's me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif ) should be allowed. Also the person must have some FT background, history, "roots". Perhaps Evangelist should be a minimum requirement, or referal from a very small group of FT unanimities, like Rudi (to pick up my prefered FTer).

In any way, you see it will be a select and small group. Who will feed this group with the special prices, loopholes, etc? I don't think this people can go alone much further. See, for example, that the rate which originated this idea was the first and so far only post from brand new FTer TempeFlyer (Thanks TempeFlyer http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ).
Perhaps FT will be the source? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif

Ok, you may say people should be aware to not posting on FT, but send you the info. But hey, if a non-member send you a profitable tip, isn't he allowed to get into the list? And if it is a trap by some airline/hotel, willing to lose some money now to make friends and catch all future loopholes? Paranoid to the extreme level... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

You may also say that airlines/hotels will catch anyway, but the list will make things a bit more difficult. I agree, but in this case a lot of FTers unware of the list will not profit from loopholes. And, IMO, this is against the nature of FT itself. Wish to listen from Randy and other old timers about it.

Note that my opinion doen't take the great merit from this community minded initiative.

Toxa

I think you are all giving the airlines and hotels way too much credit. If they really cared so much, we would not have to complain so much on these boards, over and over. They would listen and act.

If you make this too restrictive, you will have a group that is not big enough to find and share ideas.

And yet more mail.

And the mail continues to flow.

You've got some mail .. from Paris, France too.
We'll be interested to take advanatage of these opportunities when being in US....
Thanks for that, felis

You've got some mail .. from Paris, France too.
We'll be interested to take advanatage of these opportunities when being in US....
Thanks for that, felis

You have mail

Please include me on your list...you have mail.

Sign me up. Thanks for your work, you've already saved me $$ and multiplied my points/miles.

please sign me up . thank you for taking the initiative.

please sign me up . thank you for taking the initiative.

please sign me up. thank you

You've got some mail from Paris, France, ..... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif written in english...

Great idea. Thanks.

Please sign me up.

You have mail.

I like flying under the radar. You've got mail.

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Biggest Little 1K (in The Biggest Little City) In The World

Please add me to your list

cheers Peter

Shades of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine had to determine who was "sponge-worthy." Now hoping to be found "list-worthy!"

great idea----don't know how you'll keep out the unwanteds but you've got mail

Nice idea goldlust. You got (more) mail.

MisterNice

Please add me to the list.

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You've got mail!!

Sounds like a great idea. I hope to be a part of it.


Originally posted by Goldlust:
To make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g. 0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.

For reference please read: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/001751.html

Until June 10th 2001 FlyerTalkers who consider themselves fit to join may do so by submitting a brief (or verbose) email message to myself or Empress, who have agreed to master the selection process.

After June 10th membership is by invitation only.

It is (needless to say) necessary to prevent any unwanted elements from joining the list.

Have a nice day.

Well, I personally am a bit put off by the language in the offer - seems elitist to me at best - though I guess I don't understand the hisory behind this. I wonder if anyone else feels the same. I'm new to FT but the idea of trying to set up a private list only open to the chosen ones, well, that doesn't seem in keeping with the FT spirit. But what do I know, just a newbie! If others are happy who am I to rain on your parade.

Awesome you have yet another e-mail. Thanks!

Great idea - Goldlust you've got more mail!

Great idea - Goldlust you've got more mail!

I'm in. Sign me up.

Thanks
dahudgins

I'm in. Sign me up.

Thanks
dahudgins

I'm in. Sign me up.

Thanks
dahudgins

The more that I think about this, (1) the less I like it and (2) the more that I think that it is just not workable, right or wrong.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Great idea. Please sign me up.

You have mail coming.

Please sign me up.

You have email.

Thank you.

Please sign me up.

You have email.

Thank you.

Please sign me up.

You have email.

Thank you.

Please sign me up.

You have email.

Thank you.

You've got more mail!

Put me on the list, but where do I find members email addresses?

Please include me if possible. Thank you!

Please include me if possible. Thank you!

Put me on the list, but where do I find members email addresses?


lorra,
Click on the "info" button at the top a post, that will take you to a page which will show the email addy & other info about a member.

Goldlust,

I was bored and decided to do a little counting. Of all the people who have responded with "Please sign me up" on this or the other thread in the Hilton board, I count about 25 "newer" FTers. These are people who have typically less than 50 posts and have been here less than three months or so. If I were paranoid about who I could or could not "trust", I'd be wondering about these people. So many seem like complete newcomers to FT and one of their first few posts is to ask to be put on a mailing list devoted to exploiting things like "fare and rate mistakes". There are others who registered on FT a long time ago, but have very few posts. Do you trust these people?

I believe you stated that the criteria for being added to the list were: interest, being a known FTer, and being trustworthy. Well, interest is the easy one. What do you define being a known or well known FTer as? What about trustworthy? I know you don't want to publish your exact selection criteria, but I think you're in a catch-22. Who are you going to trust? What are the people you reject going to think? There's always a danger of someone doing the emmissary thing.

Sorry, I have to agree with cactuspete... I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

FewMiles..

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This is NOT the most interesting or informative thread in the history of Flyertalk.

If you e-mail, why not just leave it at that without adding a message here. And Info Tech Traveler, will you get 14 invitations for your 14 posts?

Honestly ...

[Excuse me while I yawn.]

This is NOT the most interesting or informative thread in the history of Flyertalk.

If you e-mail, why not just leave it at that without adding a message here. And Info Tech Traveler, will you get 14 invitations for your 14 posts?

Honestly ...

[Excuse me while I yawn.]

Fewmiles: I hear what you're saying and I understand, but I am a new member (recently came across this site) and I think the site is great! But if you restrict it to members at least 90 days old, then I have to miss out for 90 days. If that's the guidelines, I can live with that. You're right though, catch-22 big time! I don't know what the answer is.
Dilly
Goldlust,

I was bored and decided to do a little counting. Of all the people who have responded with "Please sign me up" on this or the other thread in the Hilton board, I count about 25 "newer" FTers. These are people who have typically less than 50 posts and have been here less than three months or so. If I were paranoid about who I could or could not "trust", I'd be wondering about these people. So many seem like complete newcomers to FT and one of their first few posts is to ask to be put on a mailing list devoted to exploiting things like "fare and rate mistakes". There are others who registered on FT a long time ago, but have very few posts. Do you trust these people?

I believe you stated that the criteria for being added to the list were: interest, being a known FTer, and being trustworthy. Well, interest is the easy one. What do you define being a known or well known FTer as? What about trustworthy? I know you don't want to publish your exact selection criteria, but I think you're in a catch-22. Who are you going to trust? What are the people you reject going to think? There's always a danger of someone doing the emmissary thing.

Sorry, I have to agree with cactuspete... I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

FewMiles..

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Dear FewMiles: I hear what you're saying and I understand, but I am a new member (recently came across this site) and I think the site is great! But if you restrict it to members at least 90 days old, then I have to miss out for 90 days. If that's the guidelines, I can live with that. You're right though, catch-22 big time! I don't know what the answer is.
Dilly


I was bored and decided to do a little counting. Of all the people who have responded with "Please sign me up" on this or the other thread in the Hilton board, I count about 25 "newer" FTers. These are people who have typically less than 50 posts and have been here less than three months or so. If I were paranoid about who I could or could not "trust", I'd be wondering about these people. So many seem like complete newcomers to FT and one of their first few posts is to ask to be put on a mailing list devoted to exploiting things like "fare and rate mistakes". There are others who registered on FT a long time ago, but have very few posts. Do you trust these people?

I believe you stated that the criteria for being added to the list were: interest, being a known FTer, and being trustworthy. Well, interest is the easy one. What do you define being a known or well known FTer as? What about trustworthy? I know you don't want to publish your exact selection criteria, but I think you're in a catch-22. Who are you going to trust? What are the people you reject going to think? There's always a danger of someone doing the emmissary thing.

Sorry, I have to agree with cactuspete... I'm not sure this is such a good idea.

FewMiles..

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Maybe it's not such a good idea. As a new member, I've gotten some wonderful advice here, have tried to give back a little where I could (often hard to find anything worthwhile to add to a discussion, tho, with all these super-seasoned pro's here), have officially done a milage run, and bought my 'Official FF Guidebook' to support Randy and his efforts.

And maybe that's what bothers me. Secret email lists seem rather contrary to the spirit of this board and what Randy has tried to create here. I wonder if we will hear from him on this idea?

Well, my single post was duplicated. Maybe there's a problem on the site?

Did that happen to you, Info Tech Traveler? (But still, 14 times, that must have been some problem!)

I'd love to be included on this list as well. I'm not a frequent poster but I read a lot of these groups and I find everyone's comments and stories very helpful. I'm sure I'm not alone in this regard. Goldlust, I understand if you'd like to restrict membership to those who you've gotten to "know" by virtue of frequent postings. It also seems fair that those people should be included first since they're obviously contributing the most. But I figured I'd ask anyway. Either way, I think it's a great idea, I wish you all the best, and I look forward to reading more interesting (and often amusing) posts!

Well, having been reading Kokonutz' soapbox forum (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/004572.html) since it started I have to say I'm having second thoughts about The List. Please have fun without me.

Please add me to the list

Thank you

I'm a new member with a few posts. The
information I have gained is tremendous.
I am trustworthy, honest (just ask my Mom!) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gifand would like to be included. Email address is on it's way.

please add me to the list!

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More mail

Please add me to the list

Thank you TigerTiger. I have been a FT member since Oct. 2000 and lurking for months before. Strange that I've never had to email someone before.

You have mail,,,,,,Thanks!

Thanks again. You've got more mail!

Thanks again. You've got more mail!

Thanks again. You've got more mail!

Great initiative, Goldlust. You've got mail.

Maybe I'm just an Idiot, but, why do I get the feeling the wolves are already at the door...

Oh, wait, I just checked, Yup, I'm an Idiot... But I still hear howling in the distance...

Please add me to your list. Thanks.

sounds good, sign me up.

okay, I am dying to be on this list! You've got mail from me, too!

Yet another mail!

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Datageek

Originally posted by Village Idiot:
Maybe I'm just an Idiot, but, why do I get the feeling the wolves are already at the door...

Oh, wait, I just checked, Yup, I'm an Idiot... But I still hear howling in the distance...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Have you seen three little pigs anywhere?

Suggestion: at some point perhaps an announced "test e-mail" could be sent so each member could be sure s/he was receiving the mail . . .

You have e-mail, and thanks for providing this to us. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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DL 500K

I feel sorry for you Goldlust--tons of mail must be coming in. At any rate, I'd like to be a part of the list.

Pat

I think a lot of the paranoia on the part of FT'ers re this list thing is from watching too many episodes of the X files http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Seriously, if the hotels or airlines are so dense and disorganized that they don't realize mistakes like posting $0 rates...

... what makes anyone think they would be smart enough to have someone read every post here to get their way onto a list so that they could read yet more emails ...

... especially when they could just use the same amount of effort to check their own rates on travelocity or some other service?!?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif

Makes MORE sense that there are a lot of people who work for hotels and airlines because they like to travel, and that those that DO read these boards are just looking for bargains for THEMSELVES.

My guess would be that the only way the hotels or airlines get any info from FT would be when one of their employees reads something here and then tells the wrong person about the great deals they found at work... but that's poor judgement, not spying. I think anyone putting the effort into reading this and prior threads and submitting their email has probably gotten the point that "mum" is the word.

Just my 2 cents.

Greetings- Please add me to your list & thank you very much for this undertaking.

you have mail!

Somebody help me!

Why does everyone keep posting emails saying "You got mail" or "add me to the list"???????

Please add me also...and thanks!

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MRKEY

please add me. i already send you email

Dupe, sorry guys.

[This message has been edited by jrschnell (edited 05-20-2001).]

Heck of an idea my fellow traveler. And until now the only thing I have used these boards for is to see that unwanted coupons have a good home. Well, glad to see I might get something in return. Please let me know what information you may require during the selection process. I am a UA 1K and a Starwood VIP. I don't travel any other airlines or stay in any other properties. Guess I've succumbed to the corporate travel game. See you in an airport soon!

Goldlust-

Necessary evil, but more NECESSARY than evil. Please add me to the LIST!
UA Million Mile Flyer
Hilton Diamond

Thanks

Goldlust-

LIST is necessary evil, but necessary nonetheless.

Throw this UA Million Mile Flyer and Hilton Diamond member's email into uour hopper please!

Goldlust-

LIST is necessary evil, but necessary nonetheless.

Throw this UA Million Mile Flyer and Hilton Diamond member's email into uour hopper please!

Goldlust-

LIST is necessary evil, but necessary nonetheless.

Throw this UA Million Mile Flyer and Hilton Diamond member's email into uour hopper please!

Goldlust,
still more mail for you: please add me to the list.

please count me in. just found this board and am not a spy. just fly to italy twice a year. thanx.

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drjarch

please count me in. just found this board and am not a spy. just fly to italy twice a year. thanx.

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drjarch

please count me in. just found this board and am not a spy. just fly to italy twice a year. thanx.

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drjarch

please count me in. just found this board and am not a spy. just fly to italy twice a year. thanx.

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drjarch

please count me in. just found this board and am not a spy. just fly to italy twice a year. thanx.

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drjarch

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[This message has been edited by chexfan (edited 05-22-2001).]

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[This message has been edited by chexfan (edited 05-22-2001).]

Count me in.

Agree with cactuspete - count me out.

I would like in as well. You've got mail.

I would love to be on the list. good idea and thanks.

goldlust, YGM

great idea! you have mail!

great idea! you have mail!

Goldlust,

You've got mail.

Thank you, goldlust!!! You have mail!

Thank you, goldlust!!! You have mail!

LOL

What a joke this thread is....

LOL

What a joke this thread is....

LOL

What a joke this thread is....

LOL

What a joke this thread is....

Can I suggest that we end this thread?

If you want to be on "THE LIST", just email the managers of the list. No need to tell everyone here that you asked to be on the list.

Just a thought!

William

Originally posted by wharvey:
If you want to be on "THE LIST", just email the managers of the list. No need to tell everyone here that you asked to be on the list.

Yeahbut, then they wouldn't be "known" and "trustworthy" FlyerTalkers. How else are they going to prove themselves "worthy" of membership on the secret list? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif This is an unmanageable problem, to put it mildly. Good luck to all of you.

FewMiles..

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Good idea...you've got mail!

Good idea...you've got mail!

You had mail a few days ago, hope you got it! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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preez mine da pratform gahp.

Hello!

I did not at all anticipate the huge interest for this list... well, maybe a little, but not like this!

I have had my email account flooded. All mails are still there but they are numerous!

All are being processed.

This is time consuming and therefore please mail me instead of posting notes here.

As far as for people posting a note here saying that they have emailed me, I take that as a way of commending our work in public and thus it does have a function.

[This message has been edited by Goldlust (edited 05-27-2001).]

Originally posted by Goldlust:
I have had my email account flooded. All mails are still there but they are numerous!

All are being considered.I'm sorry, this just make me laugh.

chexfan:
I do not understand http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif
Please tell me what was funny so that I may join the fun...

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

This is totally absurd. I agree with the minority opinion that airlines and hotels do not monitor this board enough to worry about it, much less go through all the trouble of trying to create a secret list.

Come on, don't you think that if airlines were actually that smart, they would find a way to get on your "secret" list?

Well, JS, that did it. He took you off the "being considered" list for his and Empress' real list.

Goldlust, if you don't see the humor above, you're probably not able to enjoy the humor in the New List thread.

Originally posted by Jim67094:
Well, JS, that did it. He took you off the "being considered" list for his and Empress' real list.

Goldlust, if you don't see the humor above, you're probably not able to enjoy the humor in the New List thread.

Let me refrase what wrote above from "being considered" to "being processed" if that make critics any happier. I'll edit my post to reflect that. Done.

Although it seems pointless and needless to say: I have written several times that due to my limited knowledge of FT, Empress (a real old-timer) does the actual approving. I have sent invites to people that I know and/or trust but so can anyone who is on the list. Personal criticism of my person does not reflect on any decisions made by Empress (to my knowledge).

Another advantage of the list is that notification is instant and does not rely on people checking FlyerTalk often so there are in fact several reasons for the list. It is a valid point that the airlines may not monitor the boards at all (We know for a fact that they do, though) but then make that point and do not blur it out by making fun of me trying to do something good for everyone.

Jim67094: There are always people who do not appreciate other peoples work and have nothing but criticism and mean sarcasm to offer. I accept this as a fact of life, on The Net and elsewhere.

Myself and Empress are putting in hours of time and work on this list and most people like the idea. Though I try to ignore the cruel criticism also have feelings and I cannot see any possible justification for some of the critical posts.

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Goldlust

Edited to clarify and remove some too emotional comments

[This message has been edited by Goldlust (edited 05-27-2001).]

Ok Here's my mail

Well I personally requested to be on Goldlust's List and have posted on the new list. I saw no dichotomy whatsoever therein.

After having the privilege of spending a fair amount of time with Goldlustand discovering what a clever and interesting young man he is, I very much want to be part of any venture he proposes as I suspect that they too will be as clever and interesting as he. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

I interpreted the new list as a refreshing opportunity for all of us to laugh at our admittedly somewhat distorted obsessions. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

The real reason most of us like to hang out together is because we are the only people we know who don't think all this miles and points stuff is a little whacky. Funny though how those same people who are sure we are crazy, never turn down free tickets. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Please add me to the list. You now hae my mail.. Thanks.

Originally posted by Punki:
Well I personally requested to be on Goldlust's List and have posted on the new list. I saw no dichotomy whatsoever therein....

Ditto for me, on both counts.

I would appreciate being added to the list. Thanks.

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I would like to be on the list also. It would really help me.

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Originally posted by Goldlust:
Hello!

II have had my email account flooded. All mails are still there but they are numerous!

All are being processed.

This is time consuming and therefore please mail me instead of posting notes here.



Seriously, set the group up at yahoogroups.com, and you don't have to do anything but approve the members. They can sign up with an address direct to yahoo groups, and you can maintain the list there. People send an e-mail to whatever address they come up with, you just go through and check approve for everybody you want on the list. This way you don't get any of it in your mailbox. If you are trying to do this manually, you will be overwhelmed (as you are now). Use one of the online services, like yahoogroups, to do most of the work for you. I use them for three lists, and with the exception of postings from hotmail being delayed for no reason from time to time, never had a problem with it. Best of all, it's free.



[This message has been edited by cordelli (edited 05-30-2001).]

Originally posted by Goldlust:
Another advantage of the list is that notification is instant and does not rely on people checking FlyerTalk often so there are in fact several reasons for the list.

Flyertalk info is instantly available, though, except for those times when there are duplicates and you can tell the system has been acting up. I've had mail from many people delayed up to 2 days when various ISPs screw up.

Some people may like to be kept informed by email, others by reading online, others may just want occasional summaries. Nobody wants to be at the mercy of some home-concocted system. If you are serious about this, please do as cordelli suggested and just make it a yahoogroups or similar group, where everything's automated for you and you just approve things.

Originally posted by Goldlust:
Another advantage of the list is that notification is instant and does not rely on people checking FlyerTalk often so there are in fact several reasons for the list.

Flyertalk info is instantly available, though, except for those times when there are duplicates and you can tell the system has been acting up. I've had mail from many people delayed up to 2 days when various ISPs screw up.

Some people may like to be kept informed by email, others by reading online, others may just want occasional summaries. Nobody wants to be at the mercy of some home-concocted system. If you are serious about this, please do as cordelli suggested and just make it a yahoogroups or similar group, where everything's automated for you and you just approve things.

The reasons for setting the group up by private means are stated in my original post at the Hilton board.

(I have some lists at Yahoo Groups though)

Furthermore a list of this nature that requires intro-mails from all applications would hardly be easier at Yahoo Groups:
I would get an intro-mail from them anyway, and then I would have to log on to Yahoo and find them on the apply list and approve there .

Thanks for the suggestion though.

Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
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Goldlust:
How would you the "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deal"

You have mail.

Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
============================================

Goldlust:
How would you know about "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deals"

You have mail.

Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
============================================

Goldlust:
How would you know about "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deals"

You have mail.

Originally posted by Goldlust:
The reasons for setting the group up by private means are stated in my original post at the Hilton board.


I didn't see the original post there.

However, I am on some private lists, and every time the person running it changes ISPs, there's a high risk of list disruption. Every time someone wants to change their email address, they have to send email to the correct address. (How many times have you seen "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" messages sent to actual lists, rather than the list maintainer?)

If someone's email stops working, they can still read their yahoo groups messages. If someone's email is running slowly, they can read their yahoo groups messages sooner than their email. Members in yahoogroups can reply to lists (assuming you are allowing any form of replies to the list, which you may not be??) from different email accounts, whereas most lists will only accept email from the recipient's registered email address.

Most importantly, if something happens to you, you can easily put other people into a moderating capacity on yahoo groups. That tends to be much harder on something you've set up yourself. (I speak as someone who "inherited" control of a yahoo group I'm in due to the original creator not having time to manage the group.)

Despite how yahoo have managed to mangle a few things since egroups ran it, there seem to be many advantages.

Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
============================================

Goldlust:
How would you know about all "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deals"

You have mail.

Originally posted by Goldlust:
The reasons for setting the group up by private means are stated in my original post at the Hilton board.


I didn't see the original post there.

However, I am on some private lists, and every time the person running it changes ISPs, there's a high risk of list disruption. Every time someone wants to change their email address, they have to send email to the correct address. (How many times have you seen "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" messages sent to actual lists, rather than the list maintainer?)

If someone's email stops working, they can still read their yahoo groups messages. If someone's email is running slowly, they can read their yahoo groups messages sooner than their email. Members in yahoogroups can reply to lists (assuming you are allowing any form of replies to the list, which you may not be??) from different email accounts, whereas most lists will only accept email from the recipient's registered email address.

Most importantly, if something happens to you, you can easily put other people into a moderating capacity on yahoo groups. That tends to be much harder on something you've set up yourself. (I speak as someone who "inherited" control of a yahoo group I'm in due to the original creator not having time to manage the group.)

Despite how yahoo have managed to mangle a few things since egroups ran it, there seem to be many advantages.

Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
============================================

Goldlust:
How would you know about all "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deals"

You have mail.

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

This thread is getting nauseatingly long. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif For those who disagree with this concept, please agree to disagree, and those who wish to e-mail Goldlust to get on the list, please do so without a post, and those with suggestions for Goldlust, please e-mail them or maybe start a new thread...

Those who wish to berate me and subject this idea to scorn and ridicule publicly, please feel free to continue as is... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

Sorry about the multiple posts - something's obviously working well (either the computer, the board, or me... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif )

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There's no substitution for a genuine lack of preparation

The list sounds great!! I'll have 2 off to cross country colleges this year and will be doing a lot of traveling to visit the darlings. Might I be included and discretion is my middle name!

The list sounds great!! I'll have 2 off to cross country colleges this year and will be doing a lot of traveling to visit the darlings. Might I be included and discretion is my middle name!

I'm sure it helped keeping the list short that you submitted your post 11 times http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Count me in on the list. I wish FT was not open for public viewing as there are too many lurkers.

The idea of FT anyway is for the audience to be frequent flyers who wish to maximize their mileage accounts, not for lurkers. Let's not spoil a good thing. Until then, the list will keep those who can best use the information among those we can hopefully trust.


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"Fly me to the moon and let me earn alot of miles."

If FT were not for public viewing, you would not have been able to find it yourself, unless you were one of the founders.

Then I guess we are the founding forefathers. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Seriously, FT has grown to a good size. I think only those who register should have access. Access would still be free but not completely open. Other websites make you register. We should know who is visiting FT plus it would also help us overall with statistics- ie. we could say FT has 6 million UA mileage plus members or 240000 Hyatt Gold Passport members.



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"Fly me to the moon and let me earn alot of miles."

Hi,

I am a new member and really need some help on getting some extra points so that I can take my kids on vacation. Any help is greatly appreciated. Please include me on your list.

Thanks,

Why is it that quite a lot of folks who want on "the list" are either very new to FT and/or have a hotmail style email/no email?

I'm sure that if I were the webmaster of an airline site I would get my a** on the list before it gets kicked due to some pricing type...



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A friend is like a parachute, if he aint there the first time chances are you will never need him again - DILBERT

Why is it that quite a lot of folks who want on "the list" are either very new to FT and/or have a hotmail style email/no email?

I'm sure that if I were the webmaster of an airline site I would get my a** on the list before it gets kicked due to some pricing type...



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A friend is like a parachute, if he aint there the first time chances are you will never need him again - DILBERT

Originally posted by USAFAN:
Goldlust wrote:

o make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g.
0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has
been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the
quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.
============================================

Goldlust:
How would you know about all "special prices"?

You may have to ask the members of this board to e-mail you all and every "great deals"

You have mail.

Oh no, I think you misunderstood. I am not the one sending info about this: everyone on the list can send alerts to everyone else on the list.

Although I didn't think it possible, this idea just got even more ridiculous.

oops...computer issues

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Have a great day!!
~~Missy~~

[This message has been edited by missydarlin (edited 05-31-2001).]

Ditto

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Have a great day!!
~~Missy~~

[This message has been edited by missydarlin (edited 05-31-2001).]

Not to ruin the fun of the "lurker conspiracy theory", but wouldn't make more sense to believe that the reason the special deals are gone shortly after they've been posted is that so many people take advantage that they run out of seats, rooms, coupons, etc?

Good luck to the offshoot group, but it sounds like much more trouble than its worth.

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Have a great day!!
~~Missy~~

Goldlust,

You have mail. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Originally posted by cactuspete:
Although I didn't think it possible, this idea just got even more ridiculous.

Actually what I find very funny is when people make negativ comments without any arguments. Any idiot can write, "I think XXXX sucks and is foolish." And so you do, it seems.

Originally posted by cactuspete:
Although I didn't think it possible, this idea just got even more ridiculous.

Actually what I find very funny is when people make negativ comments without any arguments. Any idiot can write, "I think XXXX sucks and is foolish." And so you do, it seems.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
Actually what I find very funny is when people make negativ comments without any arguments. Any idiot can write, "I think XXXX sucks and is foolish." And so you do, it seems.</font>

No argument necessary. The thing speaks for itself. Just one idiot's opinion.

More mail! Thanks.

you surely got mail; thanks guys!

You have more mail.

Thanks,

Airborne1

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
To make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g. 0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.

For reference please read: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/001751.html

Until June 10th 2001 FlyerTalkers who consider themselves fit to join may do so by submitting a brief (or verbose) email message to myself or Empress, who have agreed to master the selection process.

After June 10th membership is by invitation only.

It is (needless to say) necessary to prevent any unwanted elements from joining the list.

Have a nice day.


</font>

Please count me in. Can contribute any deals from India.

Thanks

Goldlust, What a huge task for you to take on for the benefit of us all. Thanks a bunch, you have another email!

If I'm not already on from the previous list, please, please do add me.

And thank you for taking this on.

Please add me on too...
Thanks for your efforts!

Please add me on too...
Thanks for your efforts!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
To make sure that FlyerTalkers can take advantage of "special" prices (e.g. 0$) that appear sometimes on various booking engines on the Net a list has been made. Posting of such great deals on FT have and will always lead to the quick termination of those offers since this board is monitored.

For reference please read: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum57/HTML/001751.html

Until June 10th 2001 FlyerTalkers who consider themselves fit to join may do so by submitting a brief (or verbose) email message to myself or Empress, who have agreed to master the selection process.

After June 10th membership is by invitation only.

It is (needless to say) necessary to prevent any unwanted elements from joining the list.

Have a nice day.

</font>Thanks for the great idea. Please include me in!!!

Although I don't post that often, I'm an old timer and have been around here for years. I would appreciate being added to the list. Thanks!

Please add me to the list, you've got mail.

You have another e-mail.
Thanks for including me in the list.

Thanks bunches for taking this initiative. You have mail

please add me to the list

email addresses are
npei@hotmail.com
npei@arraycomm.com

add me please!!!

*STOP* *STOP* *STOP*

Please read the original post. Follow the instructions. Nowhere does it say you are to post any message saying "You've got mail" or "Please add me". Read the orginal email, please.


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Goldlust:
...Until June 10th 2001 FlyerTalkers who consider themselves fit to join may do so by submitting a brief (or verbose) email message to myself or Empress, who have agreed to master the selection process.
</font>

Even more mail!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by NoStressHere:
... Please read the original post. Follow the instructions. Nowhere does it say you are to post any message saying "You've got mail" or "Please add me". ...</font>

Well said, NoStressHere, but if these people don't post here saying "you got mail", how are they going to establish themselves as known and trustworthy FlyerTalkers? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

FewMiles..

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
Well said, NoStressHere, but if these people don't post here saying "you got mail", how are they going to establish themselves as known and trustworthy FlyerTalkers? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

Yeah, i assumed the purpose of the messages here was just to provide an easy link to the posters'/emailers' info...

Please add me, too.
Thanks!
Karen

I would greatly appreciate it if you could add me to your list...Thanks so much for your responsible posting!

My email address is: linderman@networkalpha.com

please add me to the list

Have sent email ... please add me as well. Many thanks.

Please add me to the list. Thanks


[This message has been edited by thespence (edited 06-07-2001).]

You have even more mail. Hope you have a filter.

WOW!!!! Where are ALL these new members coming from? Many of them haven't even done a single posting since applying to "the list"...

Was this list in the WSJ or CNN?

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A friend is like a parachute, if he aint there the first time chances are you will never need him again - DILBERT

Hey,hey..,
I would love to be on the 'list'
..and if you need any info from Tokyo ..you got it!

Ruth

Hey,hey..,
I would love to be on the 'list'
..and if you need any info from Tokyo ..you got it!

Ruth

Muchas gracias. Tiene un mensaje electronico.

Esteban

thanks again goldlust for this wonderful 'service'. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Hey guys...add me to the list as well.

And if you need any help for the Seattle market I'm here for ya.

playhard@n2.com

out...off to disneyland

OK... this thread is getting real old now. I do not think we all need to know when someone emails GOLDLUST to get on the list. Can people STOP posting on this thread... or GOLDLUST can you request that this thread be closed?

William

Hi Goldlust. I am a new FT member. I have been reading for months but I never joined up since I travel almost exclusively for the government and thus up until a few days ago, my thousands of miles and points went unclaimed. Now, however, I am keen and eager to start. Please add me to your list. Thanks.

Dear Goldlust: If you are not overloaded please add me to your list....many thanks.

Whith that comment in mind, "you got mail" once more http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by FewMiles:
Well said, NoStressHere, but if these people don't post here saying "you got mail", how are they going to establish themselves as known and trustworthy FlyerTalkers? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

I am just a "plane" guy with a special "air" about my head. Always flying around!! I respectfully ask to be included with my distinguished friends.

Goldlust,
Please put me on the list; I'll also email.
Thanks.

Not to beat a dead horse, but...You've got mail! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif Most humble thanks guys.

Please add me. ejmrx@hotmail.com

Goldlust,
Please consider adding me to the list. Sending you email now...Thanks!

Hello

This is a final note on this thread to let everyone know that tommorrow is June 10th. As per my instructions after this date no requests to join the list mailed to either me or Empress will be processed. The easiest way to get on the list is to ask a FlyerTalker you know well to invite you.

Furthermore, I regret that this thread has become so long. This certainly was not my intention. Also, many who have mailed still have not received a reply - but you will! Please have patience!

I hope this will be the final post on this thread.


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Goldlust

Goldlust,

You have got mail ...

Thanks