America West FlightFund (Pre-2005 US Airways merger) - Most important aspect of the merger: What will the new airline's call-sign be?

Will it be the oh-so-boring "USAirways"?

Or the easier-over-the-tounge-and-more-imaginative "Cactus"?

I think I read somewhere that everntually the holding company will be "buying" the current US certificate and operating under that. If that's the case I would think that they would use the call sign USAIR.

Since when do call signs have anything to do with certificates.

Byrd is correct call signs and certificates are 2 different things.

Will it be the oh-so-boring "USAirways"?

Or the easier-over-the-tounge-and-more-imaginative "Cactus"?

Minor point, but the US callsign is still "USAir" without the "ways". ;)

Although I have a suspicion they'll use the US callsign, I'm all for something more creative or keeping Cactus. Just because there are plenty of cacti on a route like PHL-PWM.

If any of the US management team manage to stick around, may I suggest "suey, suey, suey" :eek:

Minor point, but the US callsign is still "USAir" without the "ways". ;)

Although I have a suspicion they'll use the US callsign, I'm all for
something more creative or keeping Cactus. Just because there
are plenty of cacti on a route like PHL-PWM.

"Air US America"?

(And with the merger with AC:
"Air US America Canada"?)

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Will it be the oh-so-boring "USAirways"?

Or the easier-over-the-tounge-and-more-imaginative "Cactus"?

I hope they keep the Cactus. I love listening for it when I'm flying United.

If any of the US management team manage to stick around, may I suggest "suey, suey, suey" :eek:

The problem will be if any of the US management team sticks around, someone will have to buy the new merged company after they go broke again. All US management must go. Look what they did to PI, I can never forgive them. What comes around should go around.

The problem will be if any of the US management team sticks around, someone will have to buy the new merged company after they go broke again. All US management must go. Look what they did to PI, I can never forgive them. What comes around should go around.


JFR,

That management team that you speak of for the most part is long gone...but these guys are not much better. One of the worhty ones is Deborah Thompson. She is former PI on the US management team.

JFR,

That management team that you speak of for the most part is long gone...but these guys are not much better. One of the worhty ones is Deborah Thompson. She is former PI on the US management team.

Yeah, I just did a reality time check... not a pretty thing... Guess you are more then right... I was a lot younger then I think of in terms of years of age when the PI/AL dissaster took place and it has been a lot longer then I remember since it happened.

I wonder if WN has secretly hired some US people as they are begining their self destruct "we hate the customer" mode?

Since when do call signs have anything to do with certificates.

The two are linked... the certificate is assigned a callsign. This is why you will never hear MidAtlantic on the radio... because they operate under the USAirways certificate, they share the USAir callsign.

The two are linked... the certificate is assigned a callsign. This is why you will never hear MidAtlantic on the radio... because they operate under the USAirways certificate, they share the USAir callsign.

Yes they are linked, but not as tight as you're implying. The original HP(Hawaiian Pacific) certificate didn't have the callsign 'cactus'. That change was done way after America West began flying.

America West can just as easily request that the call sign "cactus" be assigned to the US certificate.

Yes they are linked, but not as tight as you're implying. The original HP(Hawaiian Pacific) certificate didn't have the callsign 'cactus'. That change was done way after America West began flying.

America West can just as easily request that the call sign "cactus" be assigned to the US certificate.

They could certainly do that, or put any other available callsign on the certificate. I was simply answering the question of what a certificate had to do with a callsign.

If they don't fire most of the US management team, they might as well change the call sign to "PITT-BULL" becuase US will just come back to destroy America West as they have done every other airlines they have had anything to do with.... I still can't believe they are going to call the new airlines US... such a great oppertunity to start over from scratch.... yet another bandaid.

According to this old thread, HP goes back to Hughes: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28038&highlight=Hughes

Bob

I'll always remember the America West callsign for a different reason....

When I was 16 and soloed an airplane for the first time at Omaha's Eppley Airfield.... my first time around the pattern, I was cleared for touch and go, but "traffic is a Cactus 737 for the parallel, maintain visual separation..."

According to this old thread, HP goes back to Hughes:

Bob

There's nothing stopping HP from hanging on to the certificate. AA still owns TW cert without operating under it. HP could use it to start a new regional if they chose to.