American Express Membership Rewards - Lowest threshold spending for black card in the world?

Which country has the lowest spend threshold in order to get a centurion black card?

Which country has the lowest spend threshold in order to get a centurion black card?


germany should be 50k Euro. than they will start talking with you.

Australia is supposedly 50k aud.

I heard UK can be as low as £10k...more realistically £18k +. However they are not issuing any more this year and no doubt will probably put whatever threshold they have up.

I didin't realise that Germany was £35k. What about the Netherlands?

If I got a Cent card issued in one country, would they comp me in another? So in theory having one in the UK and then moving residence to US...would you get a Cent card in the US?

Chris

Which country has the lowest spend threshold in order to get a centurion black card?
Iceland. Definitely Iceland.

If I got a Cent card issued in one country, would they comp me in another? So in theory having one in the UK and then moving residence to US...would you get a Cent card in the US?

Chris

Chris,

The answer is yes; I was told that recently by a rep.

What's interesting is that fact that if you are transferring an account from a country that does not offer the Centurion card into the US, for example, they will not give you a Centurion even if you meet all the requirements to obtain the card in the United States. They will only tranfer centurion to centurion, or plat to plat, for example.

What's the threshold in Iceland ?

What's the threshold in Iceland ?
www.americanexpress.co.ic/centurion

The link is not working can you cut and paste the page perhaps?
Thanks

I know from past experience in Australia if you have a long term tenure with AMEX (in my case some 5 years) and accepted all past offers form AMEX they will arrange for you to receive a invite to Centurion if you have had Platinum for 12+ months and have a perfect rating with them. In my case my spend is around $2K per month and has been for years.

germany should be 50k Euro. than they will start talking with you.


Do they invite new members this year in Germany ? Does the system with the advices still works ? I´ve heard , that if a Centurion Card holder recommends you and your Bank will provide a Bankauskunft over 100.000 € you can get a Centurion Card without having an Amex before.

Is that true ?

Thanks

Do they invite new members this year in Germany ? Does the system with the advices still works ? I´ve heard , that if a Centurion Card holder recommends you and your Bank will provide a Bankauskunft over 100.000 € you can get a Centurion Card without having an Amex before.

Is that true ?

Thanks

they changed it. so it is now more difficult to get a centurion in germany.

The link is not working can you cut and paste the page perhaps?
Thanks
I doesn't work unless you know the secret Amex-Iceland code word.

I doesn't work unless you know the secret Amex-Iceland code word.
And you live in an alternative internet universe where .ic is the country-coded top-level domain for Iceland. For the rest of us, Iceland's ccTLD is .is and .ic doesn't exist at all.

I know from past experience in Australia if you have a long term tenure with AMEX (in my case some 5 years) and accepted all past offers form AMEX they will arrange for you to receive a invite to Centurion if you have had Platinum for 12+ months and have a perfect rating with them. In my case my spend is around $2K per month and has been for years.

Long term sure is true with them.
And you need to spend a lot more than 50k AUD to get even a platinum card here.

I decided to do a test last year by getting an amex gold credit card... i put almost 90K AUD in 11 months through on it no problems, a lot on travel and international transactions.... when the 12 months came around I enquired about plat/cent and was told to piss off basically.

A lot of banks in AU seem to give credit easily/upgrade your card if you have been with them for a number of years.

;(

i put almost 90K AUD in 11 months through on it no problems, a lot on travel and international transactions.... when the 12 months came around I enquired about plat/cent and was told to piss off basically.

That's really odd. The only qualification for a Platinum Charge Card in the UK is being able to pay the annual fee....

When introducing the modified Centurion (Titanium) in Germany I have heard they are going to adjust the minimum threshold to !!!approx.200.000 € !!!
per year for qualification for those that wanted to be invited!

So be happy if you still are! :D

Chris,

The answer is yes; I was told that recently by a rep.

What's interesting is that fact that if you are transferring an account from a country that does not offer the Centurion card into the US, for example, they will not give you a Centurion even if you meet all the requirements to obtain the card in the United States. They will only tranfer centurion to centurion, or plat to plat, for example.

I was under the impression that you can not transfer between countries. No credit card issuer will do this because the credit reporting system is country dependent and, while American Express may report to the same people in the different countries, they are operated independently of each other. Maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt you can "transfer" cards.

Kyle, this is the greatest reason to have an amex as only amex has this golbal transfer system. And in a lot of countries you can still keep your existing card(usa,uk). I say the annual fee is well worth it you are a globetrotting individual and need a credit card as a new immigrant.
You save at least a year establishing credit in that new country by having the amex structure program to use.

I was under the impression that you can not transfer between countries. No credit card issuer will do this because the credit reporting system is country dependent and, while American Express may report to the same people in the different countries, they are operated independently of each other. Maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt you can "transfer" cards.

I'm afraid you're wrong indeed, my friend.

http://www.americanexpress.com/globaltransfers/global_card_transfer_en.shtml

Very, very interesting re global transfer guys, thanks

P.S. Does the fee then rise for that of the country selected e.g. if I moved to the US would centruion be $2,500 instead of £650 GBP, or what if I moved to the Cayman Islands, they seem to be under other / Caribbean, what would my fee be there as there is no Centurion ?

Very, very interesting re global transfer guys, thanks

P.S. Does the fee then rise for that of the country selected e.g. if I moved to the US would centruion be $2,500 instead of £650 GBP, or what if I moved to the Cayman Islands, they seem to be under other / Caribbean, what would my fee be there as there is no Centurion ?


Pete,

As far as I know, you will have to pay the fee of the country to where you're transferring your account. For example, if you pay £650 in the UK and you transfer your account to the US, your fee would be $2500.

Additionally, it's common for the 1st year fee to be waived as an act of courtesy (I know this from personal experience). :)

Exactly, If you move to the us you would pay 2500 dollars. But why, aside from 3 mid tier airline statuses the us card has less travel insurance, no travel delay or baggage delay insurance and they charge for extra cards.
Which is precisely why I am transferring to the idc card ,by the way us customers must pay 9.95 each trip for travel delay and baggage delay.

Exactly, If you move to the us you would pay 2500 dollars. But why, aside from 3 mid tier airline statuses the us card has less travel insurance, no travel delay or baggage delay insurance and they charge for extra cards.
Which is precisely why I am transferring to the idc card ,by the way us customers must pay 9.95 each trip for travel delay and baggage delay.

Ehe, you mean if you get rid of the benefits is it really worth $2500? Lol. The 3 mid tier airline status and starwood are pretty big benefits. ;)

The platinum idc card comes with priority pass, 2.6 million in travel insurance,medical insurance,travel delay ,luggage delay and free additional plat card and 5 free supplemental cards. All that for 400 bucks , global transfer to idc here I come.
In regard to the 3 airline statuses one can get those through cheap
flying or comping. Now if you got dl plat,co plat and usair chairmen's I'd be jealous. :eek:

The platinum idc card comes with priority pass, 2.6 million in travel insurance,medical insurance,travel delay ,luggage delay and free additional plat card and 5 free supplemental cards. All that for 400 bucks , global transfer to idc here I come.
In regard to the 3 airline statuses one can get those through cheap
flying or comping. Now if you got dl plat,co plat and usair chairmen's I'd be jealous. :eek:

Has anyone successfully applied for an IDC with a US address? Also, I notice that none of the IDC cards include Airport Club Access with Northwest, Continental, and Delta. It comes only with Priority Pass. Certainly a downgrade for US Centurion cardmembers.

The platinum idc card comes with priority pass, 2.6 million in travel insurance,medical insurance,travel delay ,luggage delay and free additional plat card and 5 free supplemental cards. All that for 400 bucks , global transfer to idc here I come.
In regard to the 3 airline statuses one can get those through cheap
flying or comping. Now if you got dl plat,co plat and usair chairmen's I'd be jealous. :eek:

If you value your time at 0 it would cost more than $2500 to get status on all three airlines. If you start valueing your time, it gets outrageously more expensive. Comping? I think you should read the threads on comping.

Maybe if you are flying 100K miles a year the status may not be a big deal, but for those of us lucky enough to not have to travel for a living, the statuses are golden. :D

I travel 200k a year so 2500 for 3 statuses doesn't help but I respect that if you don't fly a lot its a great benefit. But when I get the idc plat I will have benefits that you don't get even as a centurion. So my 400 dollar investment will be well worth it. Read my previous post for the benefits of the idc.

I travel 200k a year so 2500 for 3 statuses doesn't help but I respect that if you don't fly a lot its a great benefit. But when I get the idc plat I will have benefits that you don't get even as a centurion. So my 400 dollar investment will be well worth it. Read my previous post for the benefits of the idc.

Blue cash has benefits that "I don't get even as a centurion". I guess the platinum IDC is as good as blue cash in that they both have benefits that the Centurion doesn't have. :)

Lots of cards have different benefits. The centurion happens to be what most people believe is the best single set of benefits and prestige (yes it has it). :D

Enough of this, who has the "best" card. Sure, Centurion has the most lucrative set of benefits for those who are in the middle to middle-upper income level and travel extensively. But for those who really have the money in the bank, you don't need all those comped benefits. You can afford to pay for First Class Tickets, pay for suite accomodations, and pay for the luxury vehicles.

Try forking out $36,000/annually for an Elite Quintessentially membership. It does not offer comped airline and hotel status, but instead offers excellent personal conceirge attention with an extensive network of connections that reach far beyond what Centurion can offer to its members. While Centurion might offer its members Avis Presidents Circle and Continental Gold, it does not offer even a small fraction of the service quality that Quintessentially offers IMHO. Think of it as "Beyond Black".

Spend that 36k ,I'll pass.

Enough of this, who has the "best" card. Sure, Centurion has the most lucrative set of benefits for those who are in the middle to middle-upper income level and travel extensively. But for those who really have the money in the bank, you don't need all those comped benefits. You can afford to pay for First Class Tickets, pay for suite accomodations, and pay for the luxury vehicles.

Try forking out $36,000/annually for an Elite Quintessentially membership. It does not offer comped airline and hotel status, but instead offers excellent personal conceirge attention with an extensive network of connections that reach far beyond what Centurion can offer to its members. While Centurion might offer its members Avis Presidents Circle and Continental Gold, it does not offer even a small fraction of the service quality that Quintessentially offers IMHO. Think of it as "Beyond Black".

Middle-uppper income that travel extensively. I think you are thinking about the people on FT rather than people that have the Centurion.

LMAO Elite Quintessentially membershipd for 36k? How 'bout the 1500/year quintissentially membership that gives you the same connections :p

Look right now the Centurion is the "it" card. That is the reason there are so many people "hating" it on this board. I have to say I am still laughing at the middle-upper income, I think I just read an article on forbes traveling like a billionaire you use a Centurion. :cool:

However, I would love to be convinced that another card was better than the Centurion...cause then I would have it too :D

So far the only card I have seen on MTVs top 10 for the rich and famous is the black AMEX :eek:

Middle-uppper income that travel extensively. I think you are thinking about the people on FT rather than people that have the Centurion.

LMAO Elite Quintessentially membershipd for 36k? How 'bout the 1500/year quintissentially membership that gives you the same connections :p

Look right now the Centurion is the "it" card. That is the reason there are so many people "hating" it on this board. I have to say I am still laughing at the middle-upper income, I think I just read an article on forbes traveling like a billionaire you use a Centurion. :cool:

However, I would love to be convinced that another card was better than the Centurion...cause then I would have it too :D

So far the only card I have seen on MTVs top 10 for the rich and famous is the black AMEX :eek:


Sure, Centurion maybe the "it" card to those individuals who seek status, and I will agree that there are certainly wealthy individuals who carry the card, but listen to yourself. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you have the card more for status than anything else. When I pull mine out, I cringe in hope that the cashier doesn't take too much notice to it. I do agree with you that many FTers may "hate" the card because they may not meet the spending requirement, but why flaunt about it? Please do not treat this as a personal attack, but after reading many threads and post relating to the Cent card, your description of the hostile atmosphere is correct.

To your comment about the $1,500 basic membership, the $36,000 is a bit different. But I'll spare you the details, since it doesn't create the awe and carry the status that many may associate with the Cent card.

Sure, Centurion maybe the "it" card to those individuals who seek status, and I will agree that there are certainly wealthy individuals who carry the card, but listen to yourself. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you have the card more for status than anything else. When I pull mine out, I cringe in hope that the cashier doesn't take too much notice to it. I do agree with you that many FTers may "hate" the card because they may not meet the spending requirement, but why flaunt about it? Please do not treat this as a personal attack, but after reading many threads and post relating to the Cent card, your description of the hostile atmosphere is correct.

To your comment about the $1,500 basic membership, the $36,000 is a bit different. But I'll spare you the details, since it doesn't create the awe and carry the status that many may associate with the Cent card.

Why would I take it personally that many people on this board "hate" the Centurion?

Oh no, really, please explain how your 36K/year membership works :D

Oh wait, you don't have the membership?? Well then don't bother making up a story just for me :p

Sure, Centurion maybe the "it" card to those individuals who seek status, and I will agree that there are certainly wealthy individuals who carry the card, but listen to yourself. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you have the card more for status than anything else. When I pull mine out, I cringe in hope that the cashier doesn't take too much notice to it. I do agree with you that many FTers may "hate" the card because they may not meet the spending requirement, but why flaunt about it? Please do not treat this as a personal attack, but after reading many threads and post relating to the Cent card, your description of the hostile atmosphere is correct.

To your comment about the $1,500 basic membership, the $36,000 is a bit different. But I'll spare you the details, since it doesn't create the awe and carry the status that many may associate with the Cent card.

I guess you meant when you pull out your platinum you cringe ;-)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410146&page=2&pp=15

[edited as of april 14th]
American Express Platinum Card
American Express Corporate
Visa Infinite Card
Citi Chairman Card
Diners Club Card
Drivers Liscense
CIGNA Health Insurance Card

I have a "friend",no really this is true..... He always asks me to double with him and a new girl. It finally dawned on me that he mentions that can I handle dinner and he will pay me later. The Bling worked for him. As for me...? My wife does think about it aslong as it is her that I am enjoying dinner with. ;)

I guess you meant when you pull out your platinum you cringe ;-)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410146&page=2&pp=15

[edited as of april 14th]
American Express Platinum Card
American Express Corporate
Visa Infinite Card
Citi Chairman Card
Diners Club Card
Drivers Liscense
CIGNA Health Insurance Card

Just because I don't carry it in my wallet doesn't mean I don't have it. Please spare your future efforts in a grave attempt to discredit me, as I have nothing to prove but offer advice in these forum. My apologies for starting a duel in the first place. I concede and you can be the winner.

I'm sorry for having to start such a debate and I hope that you enjoy the benefits of your cards.

Best,
Kyle53719

Just because I don't carry it in my wallet doesn't mean I don't have it. Please spare your future efforts in a grave attempt to discredit me, as I have nothing to prove but offer advice in these forum. My apologies for starting a duel in the first place. I concede and you can be the winner.

I'm sorry for having to start such a debate and I hope that you enjoy the benefits of your cards.

Best,
Kyle53719

Discredit? I was just pointing out that it is hard to pull out and cringe a card you don't carry. I am sure you have it some where at home ;-)

Just because I don't carry it in my wallet doesn't mean I don't have it. Please spare your future efforts in a grave attempt to discredit me, as I have nothing to prove but offer advice in these forum. My apologies for starting a duel in the first place. I concede and you can be the winner.

I'm sorry for having to start such a debate and I hope that you enjoy the benefits of your cards.

Best,
Kyle53719

Oh shut up! you have been caught out fibbing, don't dig a deeper hole for yourself ;) Don't worry it doesn't make a difference to me, and I am sure you will get the card some day soon, enough riff raff seem to be getting it :p

As for cringing, that's nonsense as you can get a green card to use, remember that when you eventually get a centurion it's in the welcome literature ;)

I very rarely use the black card, I use the BA Amex, better for the miles for me. I do however use the 'ace' black when I want to play 'silly bugger' games with feeble think they are something they are not people at certain venues, restaurants, shops e.t.c. but only to get better seats, the best upgrades, discounts, deals out of these daft superficial twats, I think it is the tight scotsman in me ;) Let the shallow wannabees pay the full rip off prices at these purported 'exclusive' venues :p

Oh, yeah, no "superficial" people in this forum :rolleyes: