MilesBuzz! - Can a travel agent stop frequent flyer miles




Legal Eagle
May 15, 01, 7:10 am
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Merry
May 15, 01, 7:27 am
Travel Agents can refer issues to the airlines Revenue Protection Units, but this is very rare, as it is the Agent and not the passenger who has a liability to the airlines if terms of travel are abused.

Frequent Flyer Miles are nothing to do with Travel Agents, as long as the passenger complies with the T&Cs of the FFP they get the miles.

Nick

rcs85551
May 15, 01, 8:42 am
He could enter a priceline or hotwire indicator if he knew how to do it http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif - that's all I am aware of.


JerryFF
May 15, 01, 9:23 am
If I understand your question correctly, there are two separate issues you raise. If there is a financial dispute between the travel agent and the passenger, this has nothing to do with the airline. If a travel agent reported this to the airline, it is unlikely that the airline would do anything regarding the passenger's frequent flyer program.

On the other hand, if the travel agent had information regarding the passenger's abuse of the frequent flyer program and reported that to the airline, it is likely that the airline would investigate.

Tango
May 15, 01, 10:37 am
It all depends on what the dispute is all about. If the passenger paid for a ticket with a check and the check bounced, as long as the passenger has not taken the trip the agent could go after the reservation. If the trip is completed, the airline would not get involved.

Legal Eagle
May 16, 01, 5:16 am
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dbaker
May 16, 01, 12:41 pm
So why are you not paying them? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

snake
May 16, 01, 12:49 pm
OK Illegal Eagle,

I think that you need to tell us what you really did if you expect us to give you the best advice under the circumstances, you can trust us.

keithnj973
May 16, 01, 8:43 pm
Maybe Eagle is not the passenger, but the agent?? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Legal Eagle
May 17, 01, 7:41 am
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Germanfflyer
May 17, 01, 7:52 am
Did you violate airline rules?
We can not help unless you tell us a little more abpout what the issue is.

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Oliver

tvl4free
May 17, 01, 8:17 am
Originally posted by Legal Eagle:
My agent is giving me a hard time for a dispute which was strictly his fault


The consensus seems to be that until you spill the beans, FTers will reserve judgement.

So go ahead, you know that you can trust us! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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snake
May 17, 01, 9:45 am
My agent is giving me a hard time for a dispute which was strictly his fault. Now she is threatening to get the matter handed over to the airlines concerned.

Now I'm really getting confused, is the travel agent a "he" or "she"..... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/confused.gif

Tell us all and we'll give you our honest opinions.

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Legal Eagle
May 18, 01, 2:16 am
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Germanfflyer
May 18, 01, 2:46 am
Does she have proof?
If not I would make her shut up with legal action.
I would talk to her supervisor about her claims and consult a lawer to (at least get her in trouble)! What reaseon did LP give for the account suspension?

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Oliver

jwhite4
May 18, 01, 11:59 am
My read on it is Latin Pass has reason to suspect that miles may have been earned illegally (backdating of travel dates to earn bonus miles), and thus is suspending the account (preventing use of any miles) until an investigation is complete.

My feeling - you have problems. All the agent has to say to LP is that she booked some travel for you (easily verifiable by LP), and that she has reason to suspect that some of the activity required for the mileage promotion may have been illegal. At that point it's up to the airline to determine what it wants to do with that information. Given how LP seemed to want to restrict the number of people eligible for the bonus (didn't they try to change the rules in the middle of it), it would make sense that they would investigate any rumor of possible impropriety.

I don't think you can do anything against the travel agent (other than not doing further business with her, and trying to collect any overcharges you said she made). You're only hope is that the Avis receipts are solid enough, and/or Avis does not want to cooperate in an investigation, such that LP has no grounds to be able to disprove your rentals.

Let us know how it works out.

Jeff

wharvey
May 18, 01, 2:55 pm
Sounds like you are at the mercy of Latin Pass... and probably appropriately so.

Not sure if the "deal" you made was a bribe... but that person could be in trouble with AVIS if Latin Pass chooses to pursue it.

While I did not do the LP, I understand they are being very strict (and oftentimes unreasonable) about qualification. But, sounds like you did not qualify within their rules... so expect they will try to not honor your requests.

Sounds like they have the advantage and high ground on this one.

William

summerdawn
May 18, 01, 3:12 pm
Sounds to me like you cheated and got caught. Above and beyond what the travel agent has charged or not charged (imo that is a separate issue) backdating receipts to gain the miles is cheating and if you got caught by whatever means you deserve whatever you get. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

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flyinggirl
May 20, 01, 10:50 am
I am not sure who said, " Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive".
Isn't your initial question already answered?
The TA has done something to your account. Regardless of the outcome of your situation, and I wish you all the best, I think you've given us all a lesson, there are limits to this game and there are consequences to going outside of those limits.



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snake
May 20, 01, 11:35 am
Expect a loooooooooooong investigation by Latin Pass, how long?....How old did you say you were, kiddo?....Whats your life expectancy? Ahh, well, at least we're all young enough to learn from our mistakes..

MRLIMO
May 21, 01, 9:54 am
Silence Is Golden!
(or would have been)

Better yet, playing by the rules may have prevented Excedrin Headache No. 747.

ScottC
May 21, 01, 10:20 am
The eagle has flown... This is the first post on the board I have seen where someone has erased every trace of their "crime"...

oops?

blairvanhorn
May 21, 01, 10:44 am
Originally posted by ScottC:
The eagle has flown... This is the first post on the board I have seen where someone has erased every trace of their "crime"...

oops?

Unbelievable! LEGAL EAGLE could have at least thanked those that offered advice before this unceremonius departure.

doc
May 21, 01, 10:51 am
The new era of self censorship has seemingly already begun! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif

Bourne
May 21, 01, 11:07 am
Whoa!
Seems like he wanted no evidence to "stick" for the "crime" he commited.

Is it because he was a "Legal Eagle".

MRLIMO
May 21, 01, 11:23 am
From my archives, for those that missed it, I wouldn't dare copy and paste his/her original posts, would I?

Nah! I will practice what I preach. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


Originally posted by MRLIMO:
Silence Is Golden!

snake
May 21, 01, 1:14 pm
You have the right to remain silent........



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