Hilton HHonors - Hilton Group Shareholder Benefits(Improved)




beergut
Jul 27, 03, 12:19 pm
Noticed benefits for Hilton, just wondered if any shareholders have made use of these benefits and are they worth it.

For instance are the rates from the Hotline the same as on the website ? Presumably 15% off the bill means off the total and not just the room.

Also would the rate count for points and miles ?

Depending on the response it may be worth buying one share to get them, 15% off ain't to be sneezed at !

<< Shareholders are entitled to the following benefits in the UK and Republic of Ireland hotels: 15% off total hotel bill when booked at published rates through the Hilton Shareholder Hotline; 15% off meals and drinks consumed in the hotel restaurants when not a resident in the hotel; 15% off total hotel bill when booked at published rates in the Short Breaks & Holidays brochure through the Hilton Shareholder Hotline; 10% off Special Event Weekends (Tel: 0990 201 201); 10% discount on weddings at participating hotels; free upgrade to superior accommodation (subject to availability on arrival); 10% off joining and membership fees at LivingWell Health Clubs (Tel: 0800 136 136). The following apply to hotels outside of the UK (not USA or Hilton Hotels Corp hotels in Canada or Mexico): 15% off published room rates; 15% off food and beverage whilst resident in the hotel. >>

Nigel


Roger
Jul 27, 03, 12:22 pm
I guess it depends on the definition of 'published room rates'.

If rack rates, then no. On the other hand, 15% off any rate on hilton.com would be good.

I'm looking forward to the anser!

beergut
Jul 27, 03, 12:30 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Roger:
I guess it depends on the definition of 'published room rates'.

If rack rates, then no. On the other hand, 15% off any rate on hilton.com would be good.

I'm looking forward to the anser!</font>

Figured the same thing, don't think anyone would be nuts enough to book regular stays at rack just for the 15%.


www.framedshare.co.uk (http://www.framedshare.co.uk) are offering one share for 36.95 GBP. ****ed expensive for one share ( 1.91 GBP ) but probably less hassle than trying to persuade your broker &lt; G &gt;.

Nigel


Rut Dog
Jul 27, 03, 2:20 pm
Generally, published rates mean those rates made available to the public via travel agents and public reservations service like Expedia, Orbitz, Travelocity (speaking for the U.S.). These rates would also be available from the Hilton.com website, but so would website "internet only" rates, which should be noted as such and would, I suspect, not be published rates.

If I were doing this, I'd research the rates first, so that I'd know what type of rate the "hotline" was offering me. And just because they don't offer the lowest rate at first (a common tactic) doesn't mean you can't ask then for the lower published rate you found.

I wonder if Hilton USA has a similar program?

(FYI, there are two separate companies: Hilton Group plc, aka Hilton International, based in UK, and Hilton Hotels Corp., aka Hilton USA/North America. Both are publicly traded, and they share marketing operations in an attempt to appear as one company to the customer. The benefits described herein are pertaining to Hilton Group plc.

Try these links:

A little history (http://www.hiltonworldwide.com/en/ww/company_info/corporate_history.jhtml)

International: Hilton Group plc (http://www.HiltonGroup.com)

N. America: Hilton Hotels Corp. (http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=HLT&script=700)

beergut
Jul 27, 03, 2:39 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:

If I were doing this, I'd research the rates first, so that I'd know what type of rate the "hotline" was offering me. And just because they don't offer the lowest rate at first (a common tactic) doesn't mean you can't ask then for the lower published rate you found.

I wonder if Hilton USA has a similar program?

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Thanks Rutdog, figured I'd give the hotline a call tomorrow and test the water, that's if they'll quote me without a share certificate.Then again I try to need to find the number somehow !

Haven't a clue if Hilton USA extend the benefits but they aren't listed on the US version of the website www.oneshare.com. (http://www.oneshare.com.)

This type of thing used to be quite extensive in the UK but some Companies are now restricting benefits to people holding several hundred shares or limiting the benefit to once a year.

Nigel

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eDiveBuddy
Jul 27, 03, 11:03 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:
I wonder if Hilton USA has a similar program?</font>

If they do, they've never told me.

Wudy15
Jul 28, 03, 2:36 pm
The 15% off applies only bookings with the rate code HB for B&B and HD for DBB from the Leisure Break Brochure. It does not have to be booked through the Shareholder Line. I usually book online at hilton.com and in the comments section put " Shareholder less 15% discount" and it works every time but make sure you choose the room code!! I usually also put in "HHonors Diamond allocate Best Avail Room" and this also rarely fails.

Cheers

Alan

Wudy15
Jul 28, 03, 2:42 pm
Yes sorry i forgot to mention full points and miles on HB and HD rates. The stays on these rates tend to post very quickly to my account but don't tell me why.


Anybody need more info please get in touch

Alan

beergut
Jul 29, 03, 4:04 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Wudy15:
The 15% off applies only bookings with the rate code HB for B&B and HD for DBB from the Leisure Break Brochure. It does not have to be booked through the Shareholder Line. I usually book online at hilton.com and in the comments section put " Shareholder less 15% discount" and it works every time but make sure you choose the room code!! I usually also put in "HHonors Diamond allocate Best Avail Room" and this also rarely fails.

Cheers

Alan</font>

Thanks Alan, are you saying that they don't check whether you're actually a shareholder if you book online ?

I've managed to find the "hotline" number on the web so will give them a call to compare their prices with online as well.

Nigel

Wudy15
Jul 29, 03, 4:00 pm
About 50% of the time when you check out they ask to photocopy your Shareholder discount card to attach to a copy of your bill. I take it this will be some sort of internal accounting check.

Alan

Shareholder
Jul 29, 03, 7:27 pm
Maybe if they tossed in a date with Paris Hilton, it might be worth buying a few shares in the American company. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Thus far, of the companies in my portfolio, only two give out "samples" of their product. One's a small brewery and after each shareholders meeting we adjourn to sample the product [limit 3 to a shareholder, but there is a brisk OTC market on the tickets distributed]. We also get a different gift item each year: beer mug, cooler case, mat... The other runs various restaurants, and this year we got a card with $50 worth of credit to use at the various outlets. In past years they've given us cards for discounts, free appetizers, etc. Never got anything more than popcorn and soda pop at the shareholders meeting of the Cinema chain I own a set or two in. And those airline shares...well, let's not talk about those!

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Wudy15
Apr 14, 05, 6:43 pm
Hi Folks.

I just got the Hilton Group PLC shareholder report through the post today. Included was the new shareholder benefits card.

On looking closer at the benefits i see that the 15% discount is now available on "publicly available room rates".

I called the shareholder booking line but they said that the discount only applied to Leisure Break and Rack Rate only. So i called Group HQ in Watford and spoke to Corporate affairs.

They confirmed that the 15% does now apply to "most rates - except membership and inclusive package rates"

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Alan

Great White North
Apr 17, 05, 7:29 pm
I notice that there seem to be 4 Hilton stocks listed:

HLTGF
United States
Hilton Group PLC

HLTGY
United States
HILTON GROUP PLC

HLN
United States
Hilton Hotels Corp

HLT
United States
HILTON HOTELS CORP

Which of these are eligible for the shareholders benefits? And are there a minimum number of shares required?

Wudy15
Apr 18, 05, 4:03 pm
Hilton Group UK. Not sure about the other listed stocks. No minimum amount of shares needed.

decemmie
Aug 26, 05, 5:19 am
Hi Folks.

I just got the Hilton Group PLC shareholder report through the post today. Included was the new shareholder benefits card.

On looking closer at the benefits i see that the 15% discount is now available on "publicly available room rates".

I called the shareholder booking line but they said that the discount only applied to Leisure Break and Rack Rate only. So i called Group HQ in Watford and spoke to Corporate affairs.

They confirmed that the 15% does now apply to "most rates - except membership and inclusive package rates"

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Alan



Hello everyone

I am making my first trip to Paris wielding my shiny new Hilton Group plc Shareholder Privilege Card, staying this Saturday night only at the Hilton Paris.

How do I actually go about claiming my discount at the hotel? Do I need to advise them of it as I check in, or do I only need to mention it as I check out? Any other etiquette or tips anyone can make?

I have done a search on "shareholder" but wasn't able to find quite what I was looking for.

decemmie

obs
Aug 26, 05, 5:35 am
The last time I used it was at checkout. They just deducted the 15% off my bill. This includes meals and drinks if you charge to your room. Usually the shareholder hotline notifies them if you book through them. In most cases, if you have booked online, I would mention it on check in as you are entitled to a room upgrade if available. As HH gold I get this anyway so I always show the card at on check out.

Wudy15
Aug 26, 05, 9:03 am
Here's the link to the Shareholder benefits page.

http://213.131.169.243/main.asp?page=23

LemonThrower
Aug 26, 05, 9:20 am
In the US:
HLT is the stock.
HLN are the bonds

Macken7
Aug 26, 05, 9:34 am
I take it there are no shareholder benefits for those who have HLT stock?

todd-r
Aug 28, 05, 8:18 pm
Which of these are eligible for the shareholders benefits? And are there a minimum number of shares required?

You need to be a shareholder of Hilton Group plc, traded on the London Stock Exchange as HG.L

see:
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=HG.L

MusicMan
Aug 30, 05, 6:27 am
You need to be a shareholder of Hilton Group plc, traded on the London Stock Exchange as HG.L

see:
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=HG.L

I recently bought and received a share of the Hilton Group plc stock. I have not received my card yet, and am in Dublin at the Airport Hilton and flying on to AMS tomorrow for two night's stay there. Is there any way to get the discount without the card? What if I have a photo copy of my stock certificate?

Travel The World
Aug 30, 05, 9:17 am
So how do you buy 1 share ? :rolleyes:

thezipper
Aug 30, 05, 10:14 am
So how do you buy 1 share ? :rolleyes:

go to your friendly broker and ask... i got one share of NWA for me... Hasbro and Disney for my nephews, Harley Davidson for one of my friends... was face + $25 for the actual cert... but looks pretty cool on your wall at home or in the office

GroundedInOregon
Aug 31, 05, 2:38 am
I take it there are no shareholder benefits for those who have HLT stock?

Macken7;

That depends on how well you know Paris... :)

GroundedInOregon
Aug 31, 05, 2:40 am
Macken7;

That depends on how well you know Paris... :)

bmifly
Sep 9, 05, 2:10 pm
I'm being told by a UK Hilton that my (non US) shareholder benefits - most importantly a 15% on the total folio - are not applicable unless the reservation is booked through the 'Shareholder Hotline' and not online. The hotline in fact takes you into the usualy Hilton phone reservations system and often they have no idea of the shareholder discount. Is this hotel correct or should I demand my discount for my online publicly available fare booking?

Thanks for any help!

Wudy15
Sep 9, 05, 3:18 pm
Hi Guys.

That's crap and tell them that. I have made at least 50 reservations online and at no point have i stated that i am a shareholder until check out. Go to check out and as long as the rate is not an industry discount or Saga etc you will get your 15% off. Only once i got a 'no' at check out and that was at a certain 5* establishment in Edinburgh. I took a perverse pleasure in asking them to call the 0800 number in front of a very full crowd of guest's waiting to check out. Most humbling when he came off the line and apologised for his mistake!!

OK if you have no HH status you might mention it at check in to get an upgrade as per Shareholder Benefit's T and C 's but check in staff will probably look at your HH level first.

Most Hilton rates are valid for the 15% discount now. see my post here.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421935

Cheers

Alan

Wudy15
Sep 9, 05, 3:26 pm
Back again!!

And while i'm on form with a good rant, why no stay credit or points when using Tesco vouchers towards a stay!!!

Phoned up HHonors in Glasgow and had a good Mump at them. Hilton T and C's say that the rate must be Fully Flexible and yet no points.

My argument to them was i could use a £40 Freetime voucher against a Fully Flexible £300 stay at the Park Lane Hilton yet i would not get a single point or stay credit!!

Could be an email away to Guest Relations in Watford!!
Let me know what you think.

Cheers

Alan

bmifly
Sep 9, 05, 3:29 pm
Wudy15

Thanks for your excellent reply. This mirrors my experience but my doubt was cast by the T&C that come with the card which suggest you have to ring the (non-existant) shareholder hotline!

Will use you advice re asking the staff to phone the hotline! ^

bmifly

swintonowl
Mar 16, 06, 4:45 am
I just called the "shareholder booking line" and was told that as from january 2006 you can no longer use the shareholder discount card, which is funny because I already used it last month at the Hilton Heathrow where they gave me 15% off. I tried to double check on the Hilton Group website under the shareholder benefits link but the link on the site is broken.

Has anybody else had any problems using the discount recently?, for this booking I am not too concerned as the room rate is only £50 and I'm staying one night but I'd like to know where we stand with it.

smallfly
Mar 16, 06, 4:57 am
I just called the "shareholder booking line" and was told that as from january 2006 you can no longer use the shareholder discount card, which is funny because I already used it last month at the Hilton Heathrow where they gave me 15% off. I tried to double check on the Hilton Group website under the shareholder benefits link but the link on the site is broken.
Probably the recent purchase of many of HLG's (Britain's Hilton) hotel assets by HLT (US Hilton). If Hilton Group no longer owns the hotels, they couldn't very well offer their own discount on them.

At least, that's my logic -- no actual data to back it up, however.

dutchbird
Mar 16, 06, 5:50 am
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but this is what the Hilton site says...so it's offical now

Following the announcement regarding the sale of the Hilton International hotels division, Hilton Group plc will no longer be able to offer shareholder benefits. However, Hilton Hotels Corporation has agreed to honour the terms of the shareholder benefits (below) until 31 December 2006 in respect of bookings made prior to the date of the EGM (27 January 2006).

u600213
Mar 16, 06, 10:03 am
So how do you buy 1 share ? :rolleyes:
I was given 1 share of Marriott stock as a Bar Mitzvah gift in 1968. Because of stock splits and corporate spinoffs ( Host Marriott, Marriott International) I now have 20 or 30 shares of 3 companies. They used to send me letters offering to buy back my shares so they wouldn't have to send me the annual report but I held on.

When I started travelling a lot in the early 1980's I discovered that Marriott offered 1/2 price off some rates for shareholders. I used to stay at the Key Bridge Marriott in Arlington VA for $65 when the going rate was $130. Then Marriott started adding restrictions. First it was weekends only, then Weekends only and only at Courtyard by Marriott. Then they got rid of it entirely. I was PO'd so I fired them and started staying at Hiltons as my 1st choice. I kept the stock though.

swintonowl
Mar 16, 06, 10:28 am
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but this is what the Hilton site says...so it's offical now

Following the announcement regarding the sale of the Hilton International hotels division, Hilton Group plc will no longer be able to offer shareholder benefits. However, Hilton Hotels Corporation has agreed to honour the terms of the shareholder benefits (below) until 31 December 2006 in respect of bookings made prior to the date of the EGM (27 January 2006).

I remember that I got invited to the egm but then never thought any more about it. I looked on the web today and it turns out that I am now a shareholder in Ladbrokes. Since they sold the hotels off they renamed the company to the bookmakers name since that is now the core business. I never received a new stock certificate though.

diamondman2006
Mar 19, 06, 5:00 am
I actually emailed Hilton Corp, enquiring if they did any shareholder discounts. They replied that they didn't, but they were thinking about it. We'll see!



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