MilesBuzz! - Strategy for getting miles for flight w/o actually flying




BeCarlson
Mar 30, 05, 4:53 pm
Would this work?

1. Buy ticket like one would normally do for a mileage run
2. Check in at the airport like normal
3. Have ticket scanned by the gate agent
4. After ticket is scanned, turn around and leave the terminal

After all this the airline still thinks you are on the plane, so they will still give you miles without having to actually fly.


1KChinito
Mar 30, 05, 5:00 pm
They will do an actual head count. If the numbers do not match, they will offload you. You would have wasted your money and time.

jtkauai
Mar 30, 05, 5:02 pm
wouldn't just using an airline credit card to charge everything in your life be a lot simplier, more sure, and integrous?


yevlesh2
Mar 30, 05, 5:05 pm
How would you do that? Aren't the tickets scanned right at the entrance to the jetway?



Would this work?

3. Have ticket scanned by the gate agent
4. After ticket is scanned, turn around and leave the terminal

SFOTRAVELER
Mar 30, 05, 5:08 pm
A head-count would really cause you and the actual travelers serious problems in this scenario.

To think that someone boarded after having their boarding pass scanned, then LEFT the plane is a huge security red-flag...

skibum_nj
Mar 30, 05, 5:17 pm
wouldn't just using an airline credit card to charge everything in your life be a lot simplier, more sure, and integrous?

It's the EQM's that the OP is referring to.

BeCarlson
Mar 30, 05, 5:37 pm
wouldn't just using an airline credit card to charge everything in your life be a lot simplier, more sure, and integrous?

What does this have to do with integrity? They are still getting my money, I'm just not on the flight.

emailkid
Mar 30, 05, 5:41 pm
A head-count would really cause you and the actual travelers serious problems in this scenario.

To think that someone boarded after having their boarding pass scanned, then LEFT the plane is a huge security red-flag...

Might just get you the SSSS on your boarding pass for life :(

EmailKid

Pushpak
Mar 30, 05, 5:43 pm
What does this have to do with integrity? They are still getting my money, I'm just not on the flight.

It doesn't have anything to with integrity. Jtkauai just wanted to be credited in a future Safire column for making up a new word ;)

Pushpak

dmfriedman
Mar 30, 05, 6:19 pm
As this is not about a mileage run, I'm going to move it over to MilesBuzz.

Dave, a.k.a. dmfriedman
Moderator, Mileage Run

RustyC
Mar 30, 05, 7:19 pm
Used to be you could do it and get away with it. If you had your boarding passes in advance, sometimes you could present them at the gate and they'd tear them there and stamp the pass. Those miles would credit. You could also have "forgotten something" and walk back out the jetway after it was taken there and usually not be noticed. Tricks like those were most common at high-fare fortress hubs where people would buy a 4 leg flight that connected through that hub and use only 2 passes. Some would have the nerve to even send in the first pass and request credit.

Those days are long gone, though, thanks to all the new tracking and 9/11 (though they were gone some four years or so before 9/11).

lasnowgirl
Mar 30, 05, 8:08 pm
What does this have to do with integrity? They are still getting my money, I'm just not on the flight.

Maybe it doesn't have anything to do w/ integrity (though some may disagree), but the policy clearly states that you have to actually fly (butt in the seat) to get the miles. I think it is to discourage people from racking up points w/o flying. Otherwise, everybody would be doing it. So, in short, this is no possible. Also, they are very strict esp w/ the security issue in making sure that anyone they scan is on board. Also, like another person said, they scan you at the door, so you can't just leave without them noticing. If you are caught, it might be more of a mess than what it is worth (IMO).

Efrem
Mar 30, 05, 9:20 pm
I was on an AA BOS-MCO flight in January that was delayed seven hours. (Mechanical problems; they had to fly a part in from New York.) The aircraft stayed at the gate. We were allowed on and off at will with nobody checking. I don't recall the cabin crew counting noses before we finally left; they might have, but if they did it was pretty subtle. Several passengers did leave: some canceled their trips, some were rerouted on AA (especially those who were connecting through MCO to somewhere else), some flew on another airline. I doubt AA had an accurate count of any except those who were rerouted on other AA flights.

I don't know what happened to people who boarded this flight and then decided to bail. They may have gotten the miles for it. (My travel companion and I each got 9,000 goodwill miles from AA, too.)

However, it's hard to plan ahead of time for this sort of thing, so even if it worked in this case it wouldn't make much of a strategy.

whiteknuckles
Mar 30, 05, 10:45 pm
I don't recall the cabin crew counting noses before we finally left; they might have, but if they did it was pretty subtle.Seems to me that in many cases, it would be easier to count the empty seats to determine how many passengers are on board.

WebfootTransplant
Mar 30, 05, 11:09 pm
I think it's okay as long as the OP reserves the middle seat next to me! :D

wharvey
Mar 31, 05, 9:13 am
What does this have to do with integrity? They are still getting my money, I'm just not on the flight.

BeCarlson,

I think it is about integrity... or honesty... or whatever word you want to use.

The airline says you get the miles for "flying"... NOT buying a ticket. There is also an issue around putting everyone else through security issues just because you want to get miles without following the airline rules.

Besides, you know you would only be getting EQM for one segment? If you have a connection... and return... you would not have a scanned pass. Do you really want to pay for a full roundtrip for credit on one segment?

William

Helena Handbaskets
Mar 31, 05, 9:28 am
I don't recall the cabin crew counting noses before we finally left; they might have, but if they did it was pretty subtle.

If I were an FA and wanted to do a headcount, I'd count the backs of the passengers' heads (i.e., from behind, while moving forward), or empty seats, precisely because that way would be less noticeable.

weero
Mar 31, 05, 9:51 am
I was on an AA BOS-MCO flight in January that was delayed seven hours. (Mechanical problems; they had to fly a part in from New York.) The aircraft stayed at the gate. We were allowed on and off at will with nobody checking. ....
I had the same on BMI from LHR to AMS - engine would not start, they herded us out. And back in 90 minutes later.
We were taxiing when they did notice that we were short one pax. We stopped, returned, called everyone by the manifest. Then deplaned as three pax did not answer. All luggage was unloaded. We all had to get new BPs and lost another 2.5 hours - just to find out that one pax with no luggage and a same day return C ticket did not return to the plane.
So they take it very, very seriously.

The captain was swearing about that one passanger via the intercom repeatedly for the duration of the flight. Which I found somewhat OT as it was BMI's handling of pax that made it possible.

jerry crump
Apr 3, 05, 12:21 pm
Don't forget to check a giveaway bag when you do this. That should add some excitement and delay the flight.


Heck if you are going this far why not go ahead and call in a bomb scare.

If you don't plan to get on a plane you don't belong in the airport.

ginandtacos.com
Apr 3, 05, 2:59 pm
Head count. The plane would never leave the ground. And you'd cause the other flyers to sit at the gate for about 3 hours.



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