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peachfront
Mar 30, 05, 4:27 pm
I last flew America West in 1999, and it was a dreadful experience. I have two flights coming up that I have received as gifts, both booked on America West through Phoenix to Nevada. Please reassure me. Any tips such as should I bring my own meals, pillow, tranquilizer, or ear phones would probably be helpful too. :) I am Silver Elite on Northwest but haven't figured out any way this would help me on America West. If I'm wrong about that, let me know.


olympicnut
Mar 30, 05, 4:44 pm
The late 90's were a bad time for HP, so it's not surprising you might have had a bad experience. IMHO things are better now. Where are you coming from because on some flights they offer buy on board. Just steer clear of the burger, I hear it's not any better than those old Micro Magic burgers from the late 80's - lol.

peachfront
Mar 30, 05, 4:49 pm
They had a gate agent in Phoenix so mean that she made me cry. :-) It almost has to be better. I'll watch out for the burger.

The late 90's were a bad time for HP, so it's not surprising you might have had a bad experience. IMHO things are better now. Where are you coming from because on some flights they offer buy on board. Just steer clear of the burger, I hear it's not any better than those old Micro Magic burgers from the late 80's - lol.


BearX220
Mar 30, 05, 4:49 pm
If you fly a lot of coach segments on NW, America West won't scare you at all. A lot of newer Airbus aircraft flying the line, hard-working staff on the ground and in the air, and transferring at PHX is easy if sometimes a bit of a hike. I flew 30+ segments with HP in the 2003-04 period and never had a cancelled flight or missed connection. I think they have some extraordinary employees.

Being NW Silver Elite gets you nothing on HP, though, and you don't earn NW miles unless the flights are official NW/HP codeshares.

olympicnut
Mar 30, 05, 5:45 pm
No food service for you, so bring a snack if you think you'll get hungry.

http://www.americawest.com/services/foodbeverage/fb_bob_schedule.htm

peachfront
Mar 30, 05, 6:08 pm
You guys are super helpful. I really appreciate it.

No food service for you, so bring a snack if you think you'll get hungry.

http://www.americawest.com/services/foodbeverage/fb_bob_schedule.htm

RobertTheTraveler
Mar 30, 05, 7:34 pm
It's probably too late, but you can always photocopy your NW Elite credentials, compose a cover letter, and FAX/mail it off to some random person in the corporate office (dig into the website for a corporate contact name) or Flightfund. I have leveraged elite status for years by doing this with a variety of elite combos.

Yes, it's most likely that nothing will happen, but you could end up being comped Silver Elite on HP. Planes are so full these days that upgrades may not be in the cards, but then again, you never know.

Also, as long as you aren't flying on the ancient 737s and 757s, the flights are generally comfortable.

Lifer
Mar 30, 05, 8:22 pm
Out of MSY, they go back and forth between Airbus and 737. 737 get 8 pillows and blankets for coach. Airbus get more, but not enuf for one per pax.
So if thats important to you, you shold definitely BYO.
Continental handles HP in MSY.

*no entertainment on the 737 (except a live demo :D )

peachfront
Apr 30, 05, 10:35 pm
I'm just back from the first round-trip to LAS and there were no tears at all, although I did notice the rarity of pillows and made sure to grab one before the other pax had their shot, heh heh. I also brought my own food. America West seemed much improved since my trip from hell back in the day -- my flight back home actually arrived early. Thanks, all.

Out of MSY, they go back and forth between Airbus and 737. 737 get 8 pillows and blankets for coach. Airbus get more, but not enuf for one per pax.
So if thats important to you, you shold definitely BYO.
Continental handles HP in MSY.

*no entertainment on the 737 (except a live demo :D )

Lifer
May 1, 05, 3:15 pm
Hi Peachfront!

Glad it went OK for you!

Bidkat
May 3, 05, 4:48 am
my flight back home actually arrived early

Get used to it, it's pretty common now on HP.
Frequently, you end up waiting on the tarmac for a gate slot.

Robertsonland
May 3, 05, 9:37 am
Get used to it, it's pretty common now on HP.
Frequently, you end up waiting on the tarmac for a gate slot.

My flights rarely arrive early but are usually close to on time. We usually sit on the tarmac waiting to take off for 30-40 minutes in MSP and about 20-30 sometimes in Phoenix. In MSP one day we were 23rd in line to take off. And this was after the 15 minute taxi to get in line. We backed away from the gate early and when we took off it was 45 minutes later. Not HPs fault, mind you but ate away at our early arrival.

Lance

Loony
May 6, 05, 3:01 am
I'll be taking America West for the first time -- in fact, this is my first US domestic flight -- on May 15. I'm scheduled to arrive at LAX at 5:30pm on SQ20, and leave for LAS at 8:45pm on HP852. I suppose my corporate travel agent booked me on that flight to allow for a 3-hour transfer time (in case my international flight gets delayed).

My question is: How possible is it to hop onto the first available connecting flight (say, HP164, 6:40pm) if I do arrive in LAX early?

Loony

snokums925
May 6, 05, 7:39 am
I'll be taking America West for the first time -- in fact, this is my first US domestic flight -- on May 15. I'm scheduled to arrive at LAX at 5:30pm on SQ20, and leave for LAS at 8:45pm on HP852. I suppose my corporate travel agent booked me on that flight to allow for a 3-hour transfer time (in case my international flight gets delayed).

My question is: How possible is it to hop onto the first available connecting flight (say, HP164, 6:40pm) if I do arrive in LAX early?

You can travel standby on the same day as ticketed with HP for no charge, The only issue would be loads on a Sunday to LAS. In fact, the earlier flts are as follows:
HPX 6596 at 1730 LAX-LAS 70% full
HP 164 at 1840 LAX-LAS 120% full

You can always try to standby on HP 164 if you get in early from your SQ flight but I really woundn't hold your breath! (One hour to get thru Customs/Immigration, change terminals, get thru security and get to the gate? Highly unlikely on a Sunday at LAX!)
Good Luck!

Lifer
May 6, 05, 10:12 am
Hi Loony!

Like Snokums said , standby is allowed for easrlier flights. But if you have checked baggage, they probably won't allow it.
LA flights have a high no-show factor, so even if a flight is booked full, you may still make it on.
Good Luck!

ByrdluvsAWACO
May 6, 05, 7:06 pm
I last flew America West in 1999, and it was a dreadful experience. Please reassure me.

Define dreadful.

I can reassure you that HP won't let you sit on a runway for 9+ hours without functioning lavs like a certain airline we won't mention. :p

Loony
May 6, 05, 10:21 pm
Hi Loony!

Like Snokums said , standby is allowed for easrlier flights. But if you have checked baggage, they probably won't allow it.
LA flights have a high no-show factor, so even if a flight is booked full, you may still make it on.
Good Luck!
Thanks Snokums and Lifer... How do we check the loads of the respective flights? One more thing, I understand there's no charge for asking to be put on an earlier flight, but HP164 Economy is priced differently from other flights. Wouldn't that be an issue?

Loony

snokums925
May 7, 05, 8:12 am
Thanks Snokums and Lifer... How do we check the loads of the respective flights? One more thing, I understand there's no charge for asking to be put on an earlier flight, but HP164 Economy is priced differently from other flights. Wouldn't that be an issue?

I was home when I checked on the HP employee website. The flights are priced differently based on loads so the cheaper fares are sold out on the more heavily booked flight!
You can call HP, explain the situation and ask how standby on the earlier flt looks. The agent shouldn't give you the exact number but should give you an approximation.
Hope this helps!



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