Star Alliance - *A Booking Classes

This thread is an update on Patron's Booking Class Alignment (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314724). Information has come from many FTers - thanks for contributing.


Key
FC : First Class
*F : First Class listed in 2008 *A Reference Guide
BC : Business Class
*B : Business Class listed in 2008 *A Reference Guide
E+ : Premium Economy Class
*+ : Premium Economy Class listed in 2008 *A Reference Guide
EC : Economy Class
*E : Economy Class listed in 2008 *A Reference Guide


in regular faces : paid
in red italics : awards
in red underlined : upgrades


JP Adria
*F : <none>
*B : CDRZ I
*E : YBMHQVNWESGKLT X


AC Air Canada
(AC economy fare names (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2874367))
FC : <none>
BC : JCZ D I
*B : JCZI D
EC : SYMUBHVQLARKNGPET W
*E : YMBHVQLSURKNGPAET W


CA Air China
FC : FAP
*F : FAP O
BC : CDZJ
*B : CDRJ I
EC : YBHMKLQGSVUW
*E : YBMHQNVWKLGSUZTE X


NZ Air New Zealand
(NZ booking classes (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=408701) - includes names of express fare types)
FC : <none>
BC : CDRZJ I Z
*B : CDRZJ I
E+ : UEOA
*+ : UEO
EC : YBGHKLMNQSTVWP X
*E : YBMHQVWNTLSGKP X


NH ANA
FC : FA O
*F : FA O
BC : CDJZ I
*B : CDRJZ I
EC : YBMNWKLSTG X
*E : YBMHWNKLSTG X


OZ Asiana
FC : FAP O
*F : FA O
BC : CDRJZ I
*B : CDRJZ I
EC : U YEBMHQVFKWGLTN X
*E : YBMHQVWNELKSGT X


OS Austrian
FC : <none>
BC : CDRJ I
*B : CDRJ I
EC : YBMHQNVWGS X
*E : YBMHQVWNGSEKLTO X


KF Blue1
*F : <none>
*B : CDRAJ I
*E : YBMHQVWNOSEUKLTG X


BD BMI
Short haul
FC : <none>
BC : CDRJ I
*B : CDRJ I
EC : YBMHQNVWSKGTEO X
*E : YBMHQVWNSKGTEO X

Mid haul
*F : <none>
*B : CDRJAP I
*E : YBMHQVWNSKGTEO X

Long haul
FC : <none>
BC : CDRJ I
*B : CDRJ I
*+ : SLUZ
EC : UL Z YBMHQNVWTKG X
*E : YBMHQVWNKGTEO X


OU Croatia Airlines
*F : <none>
*B : CDR I
*E : YBMHQNVWS X


LO LOT
needs updating, award classes are correct AFAIK but not necessarily the paid classes
FC : <none>
BC : JCD I
*B : CDRZ I
EC : YMLHKBGQW X
*E : YBMHQNVWEKSGTL X


LH Lufthansa
FC : FA O
*F : FA O
BC : CDRZ I
*B : CDRZ I
EC : YBMHQNVWESKLTGU X
*E : YBMHQNVWUSGKLTE X


SK SAS
FC : <none>
BC : ACDRJZ I
*B : CDRAJZ I
E+ : YSB inter-continental, YSB intra-europe
*E : YB
EC : MHQNVWGKOTLUE X
*E : MHQVWNPSEUKLTG X


FM Shanghai Airlines
FC : FA
*F : FA O
BC : CD
*B : CDRJ I
EC : YBEGHKLMQSTVUW
*E : YBMHQNVWLTESGKUPZ X


SQ Singapore
FC : RFAP O
*F : FAPR O
BC : CDJZ I
*B : CDZJ I
EC : SYBMHWUEKGQNVT X
*E : YBMHQNVWSELKTUG X


SA South African
FC : FAPU O
*F : FAP O
BC : JCZDR I
*B : CDRJZE I
EC : YBMHKSQTVLXG W X
*E : YBMHQVWNKSTLG X


JK Spanair
FC : <none>
BC : CDRJZ I
*B : CDRJZ I
EC : YBMHQNVWSLTG X
*E : YBMHQVWNULTKESG X


LX Swiss
FC : FA O
*F : FA O
BC : CDZJ I
*B : CDRZJ I
EC : YBMHUGQKVLWPTE X
*E : YBMHQVWNUGKLTES X


TP TAP Portugal
still missing some codes
FC : <none>
BC : CDZ I
*B : CDRZ I
EC : YMHQVWLSKUN X
*E : YBMHQVWNSKGLUETOP X


TG Thai
FC : FAPZ O
*F : FAP O
BC : CDRJL I
*B : CDRJZ I
E+ : U
EC : YBMHQNVWSTGK X
*E : YBMHQVWNTKS X


TK Turkish Airlines
*F : <none>
*B : CDRJZ I
*E : YBMHQVWNKSETLUGA X


UA United
FC : FAP O (in UA "in house" R, X)
*F : FAP O
BC : CDZ I (in UA "in house" O, I)
*B : CDRZJ I
EC : YBEMUHQVWSTKLG X (in UA "in house" N)
*E : YBMHQVWNEUSTLKG X

The R O and N classes listed are used *only* for M+ members that are logged on and looking for reward space on the UA www site.
They are purely a UA "in-house" www class bucket only, used for UA's saver awards.
If looking on a CRS or via other carriers, you still need to look/book O I and X (Star Standard) classes for UA rewards.


US US
FC : FA OP
*F : FAP O
BC : CDZ I J
*B : CDZJ I
EC : YUBMHVLWSTQKNG X
*E : YBMHQNVWLSTGKUER X


Please advise any corrections or updates. Thank you. Updated to post #66.

zzz

reserved for future use

LOT "W" class is definately Econ, not Biz~

Best I know S on Air Canada is 'super-comfort' which is domestic J seats on international flights with economy service. Sort of E+/WT+ level.

The upgrade booking codes are as follows:

FC: X (NF)
BC: I (NC)

The award booking codes are as follows:

FC: R (XF)
BC: O (XC)
EC: N (XY)

(The two-letter booking class designators are internal to UA and show up on the tickets, boarding passes, etc).

Thank you, KiwiFlyer for this long-overdue D-check on this thread.

Thank you Kiwi Flyer for this usefull information.
I am still new to FT, but I was wondering whether there is any way to do a comparisson chart with equivalencies, e.g. what class LH corresponds to what class at AC

Looks like TAP is Star Standard for reward classes - at least according to Aeroplan anyway.
I for Business Class rewards and X for Economy rewards.

Cheers.

Kiwi Flyer - TAP will be included for the RTW fares as of the next release, due any day. Confirmed they will be Star Standard D (Biz) and M (Economy) on Star 1/2/3 and Star Standard H for Starlite.
Redemptions also confirmed as Star Standard I (Biz) and X (Econ).
Cheers.

Thanks. Updated OP to here.

The UA classes in this thread for upgrades are slightly misleading and need clarification.
The R O and N classes listed are used *only* for M+ members that are logged on and looking for reward space on the UA www site.
They are purely a UA "in-house" www class bucket only, used for UA's saver awards.
If looking on a CRS or via other carriers, you still need to look/book O I and X (Star Standard) classes for UA rewards.

Cheers.

The UA classes in this thread for upgrades are slightly misleading and need clarification...Thank you for making this distinction. I was somewhat confused about the "crossed" booking classes myself.

KiwiFlyer,

The UA EC classes should be as follows (in "hierarchical" ranking):

YBMHQVWSTKLG

(G is the travel-industry booking class).

I've updated UA in the OP. Please advise if I've got it wrong.

Changes to AC -
I is now certificate upgrade class
K replaces I in the economy section (should now be RKNGPET).
S is Club Class - a J minus or a Y plus if you will.

SK has introduced a class between Economy and Business. On Intercontinental operations it has wider seats and better pitch than Economy and better service (food), on intra Europe flights the difference from Economy is complimentary meal and bar (in Economy you will have to pay even for water).

Service is currently called Economy Flex but will change to Economy Extra as by next year.

Bookin classes:
Intercontinental: Y and S
Intra Europe: Y, S and B

PS. I really think this info should be added to the first post. The SK Economy Extra is not like UA. On SK it is a completely different service and it costs more too.

PS2. There are no award classes for Economy Extra (strange!)

Sounds like NZ's Premium Economy which is booking codes UEO.

I've updated UA in the OP. Please advise if I've got it wrong.You got it right. Now there's a couple more EC booking classes: E and U (E is considered full fare in some markets with LCC competition, U is notch below that). The hierarchy is as follows:

YBEMUHQVWSTKLG

the paid booking classes at TAP are:

BC: CDZ
EC: YBMHQVWLSKUN

Thanks. OP is updated. Have any of the BMI classes changed following the changes to their business model?

I don't know if it's new, but in long haul, BMI has K and G class, too.

Kiwiflyer,

TG has a U class, which is 110% status and redeemable miles. U is for their E+ product, which is sold as a 4th class on its 345 and 346 jets.

SQ,

As you know, G,V,Q,N,T (think should be ranked in this order) are no miles classes. I believe the ranking for the the Y tickets would be in this order , based on my limited knowledge.
Y,S - full fare economy. think its 1 yr tix
B - 4 mth tix. ?full fare
E - 1 mth tix. discounted, with miles

I have not seen a G ticket in use, but have heard of an M fare originating BKK. But it ranks higher than E.

Not sure about the other classes.

Why not mark booking classes that not accrue miles in bold so we can avoid them (W, K, L, G on SK) ?

Lots of info here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352627

Unfortunately that could possibly vary by FFP even when the flight is operated by the same airline. However where it is universal that could be a useful enhancement.

I'd probably make them a smaller font size, rather than bolded.

Kiwiflyer,

TG has a U class, which is 110% status and redeemable miles. U is for their E+ product, which is sold as a 4th class on its 345 and 346 jets.

SQ,

As you know, G,V,Q,N,T (think should be ranked in this order) are no miles classes. I believe the ranking for the the Y tickets would be in this order , based on my limited knowledge.
Y,S - full fare economy. think its 1 yr tix
B - 4 mth tix. ?full fare
E - 1 mth tix. discounted, with miles

I have not seen a G ticket in use, but have heard of an M fare originating BKK. But it ranks higher than E.

Not sure about the other classes.
U is for Premium Economy on TG A345. How about Z?

U is for Premium Economy on TG A345. How about Z?
Hm, you got me there CGK. Not too sure? Maybe discounted Biz like UA?

Yes, the 345 has Premium Economy on the ultra long haul routes.
Nearly forgot, one of their AB6 SIN-BKK vv also sells U class. From what I've heard, Y+ on that plane is what they actually sell on the other 3 flights as J! Yes, the old J seats are being sold at Y+ :D I think its TG 414? I could be wrong with the flight number though.

Excellent resource! Thanks for all the information. Seems rather hard to find outside FT!

SK SAS
FC : <none>
BC : CDRAJZ I
E+ : YS inter-continental, YBS intra-europe
EC : YBSMHQNVWGKOTLU X



O-class is not an advertised class on SK, but it is apparently still used for Military Fares on Domestic Norwegian routes. I got an E-ticket today for my first trip for the Army since 2002. Fare Class is listed as O First. Of course, First class does not exist on DOM NO. SKBU are running a LCC operation when it comes to inflight service in any case, but in the SK database O apparently loads as First, not Economy.

When earning of miles/points still was possible on DOM NO Military O-class earned as business/full fare: 1200 EB points per segment.

SAS also use -E- for economy within Europe.

LH use also U for economy.


LX booking classes:

FC : FA
BC : CDZJ
EC : YBMHUGQKVLWPTE


SA booking classes:

FC : FA
BC : JCZ
EC : YMBKHSQTVLXG

To add to the last post, both LX and SA are using Star Standard classes for rewards/redemptions. O for First, I for Biz and X for Y cabin.

you're right, X isn't (anymore ?) a revenue class on SA, though it is still shown in the GDS.

according to this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=535650), class W is for upgrades to business class.

OP updated. Where extra class has been added with unknown relative position I've put it at the low end.

Just got an upgrade to BC on SA.
It is I (used to be W, pre *A)

you're right, X isn't (anymore ?) a revenue class on SA, though it is still shown in the GDS.

according to this thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=535650), class W is for upgrades to business class.
That thread pre-dates SA in *A. thijsseh is more up to date.

I notice a bunch of strange new codes for SA on KVS:
F P A U
C J Z D R
W is now an economy class with some other new ones.

The ones I've put in bold italic can't be award classes. Wonder what they are?

Just got an upgrade to BC on SA.
It is I (used to be W, pre *A)
So it looks like SA is using the same fare buckets for awards and upgrades. Interesting. If that is true, then given that the ANA Mileage Club engine is reliably showing award availability for SA, one can use it to find upgrade availability! :cool: Must try that out.

I notice a bunch of strange new codes for SA on KVS:
F P A U
C J Z D R
W is now an economy class with some other new ones.

The ones I've put in bold italic can't be award classes. Wonder what they are?

D is being used for Star RTW bookings. SA is booking into Star Standard classes for the RTW products - A for First, D for Biz and M for Economy. H for Starlite/Star Special.

So it looks like SA is using the same fare buckets for awards and upgrades. Interesting. If that is true, then given that the ANA Mileage Club engine is reliably showing award availability for SA, one can use it to find upgrade availability! :cool: Must try that out.

I must say this worries me a bit. If both an award and an upgrade are I fares, how will 'the system' know that I had an upgrade and debit me the miles I should get for buying an economy (S in my case) ticket :confused: . Especially important as I should get double miles as per the promotion. I guess I will find out soon, my trip is next week.

Lots of airlines use the same booking class for upgrades and awards. As long as they record the fare class separately (which they should do) then it all works out.

But no system is perfect and mistakes do happen - sometimes they are in pax favour and sometimes not requiring chase up.

Kiwi Flier can you mark the airlines that use the same class for Award and Upgrade, or should I assume that any airline without a separate, underlined, class uses a single class for both awards and upgrades?

Yes most use the same booking class for awards and upgrades. Known exceptions are noted.

I just made a booking with OS and I got a business class in J
It says on their website J = Holiday Business.

Is this Class credited with the double mileage like C or D ?

I just made a booking with OS and I got a business class in J
It says on their website J = Holiday Business.

Is this Class credited with the double mileage like C or D ?Assuming (per your profile) that you are crediting to LH's M&M... then it is 200%, per this page (http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/earnmiles/miles_and_fly?l=en&nodeid=1230086).

Not sure if this is an obvious thing, but it's something I haven't been able to find an answer for:

What booking classes are used for standby flights or are they the same classes as one would get for a regular booking? Specifically, I have a few days off coming up and want to go anywhere in the EU from DUB, but want to get the miles to get/keep status. So if I were to end up on a flight in (eg) BC, would I still get the miles for a J or C flight, or would it be some other, non-status class?

Not sure if this is an obvious thing, but it's something I haven't been able to find an answer for:

What booking classes are used for standby flights or are they the same classes as one would get for a regular booking? Specifically, I have a few days off coming up and want to go anywhere in the EU from DUB, but want to get the miles to get/keep status. So if I were to end up on a flight in (eg) BC, would I still get the miles for a J or C flight, or would it be some other, non-status class?

Most airlines appear to use the (sensible) rule that you get the miles for the class / fare that you PAID for, not the one that you travelled in. I am not sure what the situation is with what booking class is used for standby, I have always assumed (but this is untested) that a standby is a 'normal' booking class without availability. Interesting topic, I would like to understand this better!

Just got an upgrade to BC on SA.
It is I (used to be W, pre *A)
Kiwi Flyer, could you please correct the SA codes. They are using O and I for upgrades as well as awards. (W was the old upgrade award.)

Does booking class H earn 100% in LH?

Yes. H is 100% if you mean LH on M&M but even if you mean something else, it still is probably 100%. H is one of the highest economy classes behind YB and G.

deleted, found my answer!

KiwiFlyer - AC discontinued Z class as an Economy bucket some time ago. It's recently reappeared, but is now a Discounted Business fare bucket on some routes and a Web Fare Business on others. Their new structure looks like -

J CABIN - J C Z as revenue, I for Aeroplan FF upgrades, D for rewards.
J C Z eliglble to earn COS bonus, but there are different policies for different routings in the internal AE scheme. As such, I strongly suggest a check of host FF schemes information to see if AC will pay a C COS on a route you are interested in, in particular.

Y CABIN - Y M U B H V Q L A R K N G P E T are revenue, W for rewards.
Classes that will need checking via host FF schemes as far as mileage earning potential goes are R K N G P E T, on both international and internal North American routes. Carribbean routes also have different earning policies.

S class seems to have gone as AC has dropped their Club Class product.

OP updated

One update on UA,

X, internally known as (NF) is a fare class for Upgraded first rather than Economy which would be XY within UA.

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Review your itinerary Flight From To Date Depart Arrive Stops Duration Aircraft Fare

AC415 Montreal, Trudeau (YUL) Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ) Mon Nov-19 14:00 15:25
0 14hr15 77W Leisure S

is there a new S class on ac?

.

Review your itinerary Flight From To Date Depart Arrive Stops Duration Aircraft Fare

AC415 Montreal, Trudeau (YUL) Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ) Mon Nov-19 14:00 15:25
0 14hr15 77W Leisure S

is there a new S class on ac?

Yes - recently appeared. Earns 100% EQM in the internal Aeroplan scheme.

Anybody knows what "R" class is used for on LH/OS/LX? I've seen that it's business, however I only knew the paid booking classes CDZ (& J on Swiss) + I for non-paid travel (e.g. upgrades, awards) in business. Maybe this is for LH/OS/LX employee travel in business?

R is indeed a travel industry rate - not able to be booked by general public.

So my travel agency must be very clever :). Thanks for your answer, Kiwi Flyer.

So my travel agency must be very clever :). Thanks for your answer, Kiwi Flyer.

Clever if you are happy not earning points. If I was offered C with no points, or Y with points, I would probably take C.

Clever if you are happy not earning points. If I was offered C with no points, or Y with points, I would probably take C.

Hmm, I am pondering if that is a true FT'er response or not. :confused: :D

Does anyone have the official info for CA and FM yet? According to united.com, it looks like
CA Air China
FC: FAP
BC: CDZJ
EC: YBMHK
EC (discounted): LQGSVUW

FM Shanghai Airlines
FC: FA
BC: CD
EC: YBEGHKLMQSTUVW

But we all know how accurate united.com tends to be. Plus, I don't know the upgrade/award seat codes.

SK update:

-Y,S,B are now Economy Extra for both intra-Europe and Intercontinental.
-Y,S,B should be removed from the Economy Class line as they are featured on the Economy Extra line above (Economy Extra is a distinctive service class with separate cabin on SK).
-The order of booking classes for Economy Extra should be Y, S, B (B is used for Economy Extra Restricted and has the least availability of the three).
-W and lower could be moved to a new line called "Economy (discounted)". Same service class as Economy but typically earn less points in most programs (25% mileage in SKs own EuroBonus).
-The A class should be first in line for Business Class. It is only available long haul and is a first class priced booking class which will guarantee any traveller a seat on any SK long haul flight up to departure. The availability of A-class is always 0 in GDS-systems.

Just to add to the reference on the list of booking classes which you will be eligible to earn flight miles when accruing to SQ KF FFP.

You can get the information from the list at SQ website:
https://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/docs/krisflyer/Earn_Miles/KFOALLevels_Sep07.pdf

LH awards for economy booked within 2wks ("fly-smart") are booked into with which letter?

LH awards for economy booked within 2wks ("fly-smart") are booked into with which letter?

They book into X, the regular class for economy awards.

Does anybody know the booking classes of European airpass on European carriers ?

Thx for helping

Does anybody know the booking classes of European airpass on European carriers ?

Thx for helping

Here you are:

BD Q
JK H
JP H
KF H
LH H
LO H
LX H
OS H
OU Q
SK H
TP H

Correction: US

First Upgrade: O/P
Business Upgrade: J

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6906801&postcount=2

Thanks, OP updated.

Does anyone have codes for TK?

New award booking class for SK; Economy Extra awards is now P.

Does anyone know what the award booking classes are air Air China? Is it O, I, X or something different?

Does anyone have the codes for MS Egypt Air (they might change when it joins *A - if so post joining codes preferred)?

Regarding MS, this might be useful for starters.

http://www.flysas.com/en/EuroBonus/Spend-earn-EuroBonus/Airlines/StarAlliance/Egypt-Air/

SAS (SK) new award class for Economy Extra is P.

Does anyone have the codes for MS Egypt Air (they might change when it joins *A - if so post joining codes preferred)?

MS (and CA, FM and TK for that matter) appear to be Star Standard for the "things that matter most" to Star fliers.

O I X for rewards. (F, Biz, Y cabins respectively)
A D M H for RTW's (F, Biz, Y 123, Y StarSpecial respectively)
Some differences for internal domestic travel on CA.

SA South African
FC : FA PU O
BC : JCZ DR I
EC : YBMHKSQTVLXG W XI assume you can remove First Class since all SA 747s are retired.

Regarding MS, this might be useful for starters.

http://www.flysas.com/en/EuroBonus/Spend-earn-EuroBonus/Airlines/StarAlliance/Egypt-Air/Interesting:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/earnmiles/miles_and_fly?l=en&nodeid=2043907&cid=18002
Look at the difference between Q and H between M&M and EB!

I've added the booking classes listed in 2008 *A reference guide. Note this lists in order first the common *A booking classes then the uncommon ones, so appears in the wrong order in aggregate. The information is sufficiently different from the previous data in the OP that I've shown both sets of data.

2008 *A reference guide.Any place where I can find this online?

There is a link in the *A useful reference links sticky ;)

What class does SQ book into for a business *A Circle Pacific fare?

I'm having trouble booking an itinerary on the SQ leg. Seatcounter says Z4D4C4, but they have waitlisted me. :mad:

Just because some tool shows availability does not mean there actually is availability for your specific itinerary.

1) The tool you use could be using a GDS that is not native to the airline, and thus not up to date.

2) Some airlines (including SQ) restrict availability based on point of sale (ie they prefer expensively bought Z class over cheaply bought Z class). Some availability tools are based on a certain (normally US) point of sale. Others allow the user to select the point of sale.

3) Some airlines may restrict availability based on fare within a booking class.

4) Married segment logic commonly applies. This is where availability is apportioned between origin and destination pax (O&D) and connecting pax. There are all sorts of reasons for this - eg to make their schedule work more efficiently, to maximise revenue, to reduce risk of delays, etc.

Does anyone know where i could get fare rules for ESCAPADE RTW Fare on SQ/MI/NZ/VS ex UK? Thanks

Anyone aware of the booking class on ANA when on a Japan Air Pass? I know it's Eco only and rather cheap but still wonder how many points I could expect on my LH, SK or BD FFP's.

Thanks.

Anyone aware of the booking class on ANA when on a Japan Air Pass? I know it's Eco only and rather cheap but still wonder how many points I could expect on my LH, SK or BD FFP's.

Thanks.

NH M class. See http://www.airnewzealandagent.co.nz/resources/star-alliance-japan-airpass-1dec08.pdf

Does anyone know what the award booking classes are air Air China? Is it O, I, X...?

Yes.

NH M class. See http://www.airnewzealandagent.co.nz/resources/star-alliance-japan-airpass-1dec08.pdf

Thanks!

[b]Kiwi Flyer[/k] in the OP, why are the fare codes I and O underlined in both instances. Under the Rule, this would indicate there is no BC or F award, only an upgrade. Is this a typo? It inconsistent with the other *A charts.

I'm not sure which airline you are referring to. If it is both underlined and italicised (as is the case for many airlines in O & I) the same booking class is used for awards and upgrades.

I notice a couple of airlines have an italicised booking class but not an underlined one in business or first class. I'd assume upgrades (underlined) come from the same booking class as awards.

The reason for the different formats is to highlight airlines where the booking classes for upgrades are different to those used for awards. A red underlined non-italicised code is upgrades only. A red italicised non-underlined code is awards only (except in business and first if there are no upgrade codes listed see assumption above). A red underlined and italicised code is for both upgrades and awards.

I hope this makes sense.

I forgot to say it is the South African list.

South African O & I are both italicised & underlined thus used for both upgrades & awards.

On Singapore Airlines, what kind of fare class is Z ? When looking for flights I get results like the one below, which seem to indicate that Z is a first class fare? Anyone know?

On a similar note, checking flights on ITA I got SQ business class fares (C) that seemed to book into A - unfortunately a mistake :(


[KVS Availability Tool 5.0.2/Platinum - Apollo: Availability/ITN/US-MYP] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------
SQ 325 FRA 22:00 SIN 17:10 +1 77W 0 F4 P4 A4 Z4 C1 J0 D0 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 W0 Q0 N0 V0 T0 L0 K0



Thanks

On Singapore Airlines, what kind of fare class is Z ? When looking for flights I get results like the one below, which seem to indicate that Z is a first class fare? Anyone know?It's the business class cabin -- you can easily check it yourself:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.0.2/Diamond - Amadeus Seat Map: 01 Sep 2009/SQ 25/FRA-SIN/744/Z] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
A C | D E F | H K
11 + - - - U
12 - - - - U
14 - - - - U
17 E - - + - U
18 - - - + U
19 - - - + U
20 - - U
22 - + - + - + -
23 - - + + + - -
24 + + + + + + +
25 + + +

[+] Available [-] Unavailable [E] Exit Row
[W] Wing [L] Lavatory [U] Upper Deck

Thank you KVS! That is good advice, didn't realize I could use the Amadeus seat map to check which cabin a fare class books into.

So, is Z the highest fare class in business class? Otherwise how do I explain that it was the class with the highest availability. Most airlines I am familiar with use Z as deep discount business class.

Thanks again.

Thank you KVS! That is good advice, didn't realize I could use the Amadeus seat map to check which cabin a fare class books into.

So, is Z the highest fare class in business class? Otherwise how do I explain that it was the class with the highest availability. Most airlines I am familiar with use Z as deep discount business class.Yes, it is:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
R/T Aug-Jul

Carrier From To Fare Cur AdvanceP Min Max Fare Basis/TD | Travel Period
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- --- -----------------------------
SQ FRA SIN 2487 USD *** 4 1M DSPCL 24 Aug-31 Oct
SQ FRA SIN 3984 USD 30 Days 7 45 DAP45 -05 Apr
SQ FRA SIN 4701 USD *** 4 45 DPX45 -05 Apr
SQ FRA SIN 5386 USD *** 3 12M JEE12M -05 Apr
SQ FRA SIN 7537 USD *** 12M CSQRT -31 Mar
SQ FRA SIN 8256 USD *** 12M ZSQRT -31 Mar
SQ FRA SIN 12849 USD *** 12M FSQRT -31 Mar
SQ FRA SIN 13071 USD *** 3 6M REE6M1 -31 Dec

SAA are now using E for upgades from economy to business (as my last two upgrades). I think UA are also using E instead of I.

Air Canada is now:

FC : <none>
BC : JCDZ I R
*B : CD R I JZ
EC : YBMUHQVWSLAKNGPETO X
*E : YBMU X HQNGEKVWSPLTO

...as best as I can figure out the formatting of the OP.

Is CO, Continental Airline missing here, wish someone can add later.

Just booked T-class ticket on CO.

I'm trying to find a thread that shows miles earned for respective airlines, COC bonus etc.

I'm using ANA ticket stock to get back and forth to BKK ex YVR. First flight was Jan 01 and I received a pleasant surprise to see I earned a 25% COS Bonus on the ANA operated flight and 50% COS on the AC operated portion (NRT-YVR). The bonuses all counted as Status Miles.

I fly the return portion next week, it is AC to NRT then UA to BKK.

I need to nook my next return ticket within a couple of days. The choice of operators are AC, TG, UA and ANA. AC is a given for YVR-NRT as I like their product and the 50% COS, but I am curious what I earn on UA and TG for COS.

I'm trying to find a thread that shows miles earned for respective airlines, COC bonus etc.

I'm using ANA ticket stock to get back and forth to BKK ex YVR. First flight was Jan 01 and I received a pleasant surprise to see I earned a 25% COS Bonus on the ANA operated flight and 50% COS on the AC operated portion (NRT-YVR). The bonuses all counted as Status Miles.

I fly the return portion next week, it is AC to NRT then UA to BKK.

I need to nook my next return ticket within a couple of days. The choice of operators are AC, TG, UA and ANA. AC is a given for YVR-NRT as I like their product and the 50% COS, but I am curious what I earn on UA and TG for COS.

That is program dependant as each has it's own rules.

I'm trying to find a thread that shows miles earned for respective airlines, COC bonus etc.

I'm using ANA ticket stock to get back and forth to BKK ex YVR. First flight was Jan 01 and I received a pleasant surprise to see I earned a 25% COS Bonus on the ANA operated flight and 50% COS on the AC operated portion (NRT-YVR). The bonuses all counted as Status Miles.

I fly the return portion next week, it is AC to NRT then UA to BKK.

I need to nook my next return ticket within a couple of days. The choice of operators are AC, TG, UA and ANA. AC is a given for YVR-NRT as I like their product and the 50% COS, but I am curious what I earn on UA and TG for COS.

The ticket stock you are using is irrelevant, it's the operating carrier and the booking class that matters.

Assuming that you intend to credit the flights to Aeroplan, AC flights would get you 50% COS in business class (J fare only), discounted business class fares booked in C, D & Z earn 25% COS. UA earns 25% COS in booking class C, D & N but 0% COS in Z. TG earns 25% COS in all business class booking classes. See aeroplan.com (http://www1.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/our_partners.do?Category=Airline) for more info regarding the earning on each carrier.

The ticket stock you are using is irrelevant, it's the operating carrier and the booking class that matters.

Assuming that you intend to credit the flights to Aeroplan, AC flights would get you 50% COS in business class (J fare only), discounted business class fares booked in C, D & Z earn 25% COS. UA earns 25% COS in booking class C, D & N but 0% COS in Z. TG earns 25% COS in all business class booking classes. See aeroplan.com (http://www1.aeroplan.com/earn_miles/our_partners.do?Category=Airline) for more info regarding the earning on each carrier.

Thank you.

Air Canada is now:

FC : <none>
BC : JCDZ I R
*B : CD R I JZ
EC : YBMUHQVWSLAKNGPETO X
*E : YBMU X HQNGEKVWSPLTO

...as best as I can figure out the formatting of the OP.

that's a bit confusing.

that's a bit confusing.
This may help: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_StarAlliance