US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - US AIRWAYS may find a white knight




US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 11, 05, 1:19 am
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05070/469540.stm

US Airways may find white knight
Mesa Air considering investment in bankrupt carrier
Friday, March 11, 2005

By Dan Fitzpatrick, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Phoenix commuter carrier Mesa Air is considering an investment in US Airways that would lift the nation's seventh-largest carrier out of bankruptcy for the second time in two years.

Any deal still appears to be in the discussion phase. But Mesa Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Ornstein could propose an infusion of capital large enough to give Mesa majority control of an airline for which it already provides commuter service under the US Airways Express banner, according to an industry source who asked not to be named.

Thought to be reluctant to contribute money until US Airways completes its restructuring, Ornstein could make any investment contingent on the Arlington, Va.-based carrier's successful emergence from bankruptcy court.

Asked this week about a possible cash infusion in an airline whose partnership with Mesa currently generates about a third of the commuter carrier's nearly $900 million in annual revenue, Ornstein did not deny it.

"We have always said we will do everything we can to help our partner," he said. "In terms of anything in particular, we have no comment."

US Airways Chief Executive Officer Bruce Lakefield, asked about Mesa's willingness to invest after a meeting yesterday in Coroapolis with the airline's pilots union, also did not deny Mesa's interest, saying: "It would be great if they did."

But Lakefield quickly emphasized that US Airways was still talking with a number of interested parties. "The list is long," he said.

US Airways has said it needed $250 million from investors to emerge from bankruptcy with a comfortable cash cushion, and that it already had lined up Appleton, Wis.-based carrier Air Wisconsin Airlines for half that amount in exchange for a potential air services partnership. US Airways has said in bankruptcy documents it expected to attract as many as two other investors and an additional $100 million to $275 million beyond Air Wisconsin's $125 million.

Mesa is a longtime regional partner of US Airways, carrying passengers to and from smaller cities in exchange for annual fees. In the fourth quarter of 2004, US Airways accounted for 35 percent of Mesa's revenues. So an investment in US Airways could be a way for Ornstein to protect Mesa's business, as well as helping US Airways.

Ornstein, a friend of former US Airways Chief Executive Officer David Siegel, also has a history of wanting to play a part in airline restructurings.

He invested in America West Airlines while that carrier was in bankruptcy in the early 1990s, turning an $18.7 million infusion into a $48 million profit when America West bought the stock back. In 2002, he and California billionaire Marvin Davis made a bid for US Airways during the carrier's first bankruptcy, but the bid was rejected. He also made a play for Atlantic Coast Airlines at the end of 2003.

Mesa was profitable last year, a rarity in the beleaguered airline industry, making $26.3 million on revenues of $896 million. It employs 5,000 and operates 180 planes, with 1,100 daily departures to more than 182 cities. It also flies for United Airlines and America West.

"We are looking at a number of acquisition and investment opportunities," Ornstein said late last year. "While we will undoubtedly face challenges going forward, we believe the company, with over $230 million in liquidity, is well positioned financially to take advantage of potential opportunities."


sassamanlaw
Mar 11, 05, 5:26 am
For those of us who frequent the F'ed* terminal in PHL and are lucky enough to fly Mesa :rolleyes: we see this more as the barbarians at the gates ready to pillage our airline rather than a white knight. Sorry, I'm just no fan of Mesa.

*copyright owned by jimcfsus.

US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 11, 05, 6:29 am
I canīt stand MESS I mean Mesa. I hope some other company beats their bid.


otralot
Mar 11, 05, 8:13 am
It looks like US is going to be owned by its commuter airlines. Now that's a switch. Air Wisconsin is getting an equity stake

Spiff
Mar 11, 05, 8:59 am
I guess that's one way to keep those wildly popular :rolleyes: RJs flying...

PineyBob
Mar 11, 05, 9:28 am
White Knight??? Hmmm When I think of Johnny O & Mess-up I mean Mesa I think of the black knight in one of the early scenes of the Monty Python movie. "The Holy Grail"

Not sure why but when you think in pictures like I do you get some weird visuals.

Spiff
Mar 11, 05, 9:43 am
"What are you going to do, bleed on me??"

JAXPax
Mar 11, 05, 11:07 am
Well, Jonny O tried to buy Indy Air before they went independent.... many people at Fly-I actually prefer their current position to the "What if" situation involving Mesa.

I hate to say it, but I'd almost rather see US go away than turn into a mainline Mesa.

Mesa's compensation strategy, as told by Ornstein: "As long as people are still applying, I'm paying you too much."

jimcfsus
Mar 11, 05, 12:53 pm
No Mesa please. I can't handle Crazy Jane anymore as one of our regular FA's. ;)

bofie
Mar 11, 05, 1:32 pm
In preparation for a Mesa "bailout" we should stop-up the toilets and dirty the cabins...just to get used to it.

US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 11, 05, 1:36 pm
In preparation for a Mesa "bailout" we should stop-up the toilets and dirty the cabins...just to get used to it.


LOLOLOL!!!!

You know I think the US boards here in FT have the funniest people on FT!! :D

jimcfsus
Mar 11, 05, 1:42 pm
In preparation for a Mesa "bailout" we should stop-up the toilets and dirty the cabins...just to get used to it.

Yeah, worse than mainline at times. :( At least that was my experience on Tuesday AM out of PHL. No one touched the plane after its last flight on Mon night.

phillygold
Mar 11, 05, 1:54 pm
Yeah, worse than mainline at times. :( At least that was my experience on Tuesday AM out of PHL. No one touched the plane after its last flight on Mon night.

At least you managed to get off your Messy flight. Last time I flew on them from CLE to PHL, the plane was taken to the hanger because it needed overnight maint., with all of the passengers on board. (Dropping us off at one of the open gates was too tough)...
Between that and the joke telling FA's... :mad:

hscottm
Mar 11, 05, 1:58 pm
I have no issues with Air Wisconsin or Mesa, per se.

However I think alot about (as mentioned above) an airline being owned by its commuters. Its either the last option of a desperate company, or an innovative approach to guaranteeing mutual survival. Sure in the long term Mesa might end up bigger than USAirways but for now, it seems to be a win-win. They're effectively paying a fee to guarantee future revenues from US. Question is whether its too big given the possible end of future revenues.

This begs the question - why hadnt commuter airlines had stakes like this in mainlines before?

ByrdluvsAWACO
Mar 11, 05, 2:11 pm
I'll post what I posted on airliners.net concerning the same subject.

There seems to be an unofficial HP-Mesa-US triangle here. Mesa is interested in US, while acting as a significant partner to HP. HP is interested in a merger, and is a member of CLT's CoC. TPG's Bonderman, who sits on HP's board, is interested in investing in US, and US wants to become like HP.


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Spiff
Mar 11, 05, 3:26 pm
Welcome to FlightFund all you DM members. :D

Welcome to the Star Alliance, HP. ;)

ByrdluvsAWACO
Mar 11, 05, 3:50 pm
Welcome to the Star Alliance, HP. ;)

:D

jimcfsus
Mar 11, 05, 4:06 pm
Welcome to the Star Alliance, HP. ;)

That's kinda the way I see it too, Spiff.

deelmakur
Mar 12, 05, 4:59 am
Ornstein has a long relationship with David Bonderman, who pulled Continental out of the dumpster, invested in America West, is Chairman of Europe's highly successful Ryanair, and was the first guy to try and fix US before RSA stepped in. Ornstein ran Virigin Express in Europe (Bonderman invested with Richard Branson on that one) before returning to Mesa. This one isn't over yet. I still think JetBlue is going to take a run, and of course, Branson has yet to get a partner (and a certificate) for his new Virgin America. They are keeping this thing going for some reason. They have wrung a lot of cost out of the place, although, amazingly, at around 11 cents a seat mile it is still among the highest in the industry (for example UA is 9 cents), but a lot of that is a function of route structure, with so much short haul. The workforce has demonstrated it will cooperate. That's a first over there.

US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 12, 05, 5:33 am
If anything HP would merge into US and not the other way around. I can't see US giving up the *A at all. It would be nice if US had a West coast presence again. HP merging into US could actually work. HP is not the giant that UA is and they are not in debt like UA is. And the *A partners would have more access to more west coast cities.

HP has a fair amount of gates at LAX in the same Terminal 1 US is in, excellent hub in PHX and LAS. And US being very strong on the eastern market. Exactly what both of them need.

At this point we are all speculating but I think that it would be possible :)

Would the *A carriers have to approve this as well? I would assume they would hands down.

T

ByrdluvsAWACO
Mar 12, 05, 3:08 pm
US AIRWAYS FAN,

If anything HP would merge into US and not the other way around. I can't see US giving up the *A at all.

I know that you guys are US fans, but I don't see US buying HP. I more likely see HP and Bonderman(TPG) buying US entirely or a controlling share. The resulting airline then joining/remaining with *A.

You can bet that as soon as Mesa gets their hands on US, there will be some new partnership/codeshare announced. Similiar to WN's announced codeshare with ATA. This would benefit Mesa greatly.

HP has a fair amount of gates at LAX in the same Terminal 1 US is in...

Yes. I've been wanting US to move into UA's termals so HP can have the ticket counters, lounge, and gates. However, if HP and US combine, the result is the same.

US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 12, 05, 3:40 pm
US AIRWAYS FAN,



I know that you guys are US fans, but I don't see US buying HP. I more likely see HP and Bonderman(TPG) buying US entirely or a controlling share. The resulting airline then joining/remaining with *A.

You can bet that as soon as Mesa gets their hands on US, there will be some new partnership/codeshare announced. Similiar to WN's announced codeshare with ATA. This would benefit Mesa greatly.



Yes. I've been wanting US to move into UA's termals so HP can have the ticket counters, lounge, and gates. However, if HP and US combine, the result is the same.

They might have controlling share. I just don't see them changing the name from US Airways to America West. Who knows maybe they will come up with an entirely new name.

ByrdluvsAWACO
Mar 12, 05, 4:13 pm
They might have controlling share. I just don't see them changing the name from US Airways to America West. Who knows maybe they will come up with an entirely new name.

Well, I admit that I'd like to see those A330's in HP livery. :D If they don't then maybe they could rename the whole airline to America Airways or US West? :)

More likely we'd see a strong partnership, at least initially.

US AIRWAYS FAN
Mar 12, 05, 4:34 pm
Well we are all still just dreaming (for now). I just can't think of the US Airways livery going away. To me it is the most attractive livery (sporting the USA colors and flag) out there. Especially when just painted. It is a fine looking aircraft. :)

shinbal
Mar 13, 05, 5:49 am
No Mesa please. I can't handle Crazy Jane anymore as one of our regular FA's. ;)

OMG, I thought it was just me thinking that! :D

fly747first
Mar 14, 05, 12:07 am
In preparation for a Mesa "bailout" we should stop-up the toilets and dirty the cabins...just to get used to it.


Indeed, also consider:

To fasten your seat belt, insert the metal fitting into the buckle, if there is no buckle on your seat belt (like it happened on one of my flights), please adjust yourself low and tight around your fellow passenger's waist. Also ladies and gentlemen, those of you weighing more than 160 lbs will have to move to the back of the aircraft. Finally, due to the short duration of our flight, I will not be able to safely distribute any beverages, however, if there is anything else that does not require any type of help, please feel free to contact me at any time during the flight. Thank you.

flyingcat
Mar 14, 05, 1:22 am
While a merger may be possible it will really have to have some cost benefits to be worth it to anybody. Corporate culture clash is also a big problem. Nothing against US but HP does not need or want to be PSA part 2. With the problems plaguing mergers are inevitable. The big question is who will do it and pull it off. If it were to happen and it did work it would be a big win as HP is a strong western carrier and has experience fighting Southwest at its hubs in PHX and LAS. This is the talent and experience US needs to form any plan for survival.

To quote a line from one of my favorite movies: "Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!" :D

otralot
Mar 14, 05, 7:50 am
I may be wrong but I don't see this or nay other major airline nerger coming soon. I think what some hope is that one carrier will fail and that will provide opportunitiues for expansion without hassle of merger. It will make planes and markets available without integration of cultures, taking on routes that no one wants, etc. Although I do agree from aroute perspective US/HP makes some sense.



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