Newsstand - Plane on runway forces ATA flight to stay aloft




tcook052
Feb 25, 05, 11:44 pm
IIRC, isn't this term called runway incursions? At any rate:

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/224918-4898-009.html

An ATA flight about two miles away from landing Wednesday at Indianapolis International Airport was forced to remain aloft because a plane was on its runway, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman said.


UAORDFLYER
Feb 26, 05, 9:39 am
IIRC, isn't this term called runway incursions? At any rate:

http://www.indystar.com/articles/8/224918-4898-009.html

An ATA flight about two miles away from landing Wednesday at Indianapolis International Airport was forced to remain aloft because a plane was on its runway, a Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman said.

This was an incursion, I've never heard it phrased that the a/c on approach had to "remain aloft" - it's called a "missed approach" or "go around". This happens at airports daily, a very very common occurance. Usually due to wind, but sometimes due to other a/c on the runway.

ScottC
Feb 26, 05, 1:17 pm
Myst be a slow news day in IND... I've had this happen at least 20 times...


CPRich
Feb 26, 05, 2:31 pm
This made it into a newspaper? It happens all the time. Was the next story a newsflash about how flights were delayed at ORD because of the weather?

tcook052
Feb 26, 05, 6:27 pm
I dug a little deeper into the subject and found that the FAA says there were 325 reported runway incursions at U.S. airports in 2004:

http://www.faa.gov/runwaysafety/data/fy04daily.htm

CPRich
Feb 26, 05, 7:13 pm
I dug a little deeper into the subject and found that the FAA says there were 325 reported runway incursions at U.S. airports in 2004:

http://www.faa.gov/runwaysafety/data/fy04daily.htm

Something doesn't add up - according to the FAA report, I was on about 1 out of every 250,000 landings in the 00-03 period, but I had 3 go-arounds and there were 1475 runway incursions.

I believe a runway incursion is when the safety thresholds are breached. Simple go-arounds are much more common and are not reported. The IND report sounds like a simple "plane's still in the way, need to take another pass at it" rather than a "holy $*)( you're too close, get the heck out of there".

Either that or I'm unlucky and experience them 500x the average.

And as a sidenote, refering to the often-posted "you know you fly too often when.." - you get perfect scores on FAA tests for taxiway marking and taxi instructions without ever having has any formal training. http://www.faa.gov/runwaysafety/knowledge.cfm

studentff
Feb 26, 05, 11:07 pm
And as a sidenote, refering to the often-posted "you know you fly too ofter when.." - you get perfect scores on FAA tests for taxiway marking and taxi instructions without ever having has any formal training. http://www.faa.gov/runwaysafety/knowledge.cfm

I got 100% on the taxi instructions but only 7 of 12 on the taxiway markings. Which accurately reflects that all of my experience comes to listening to UA Ch 9 and feeling the inertial movement of the plane rather than actually looking at taxiway markings.

Still a case of "you know you fly too much," consider I have no formal or informal traning.



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