SAS EuroBonus - Question for all BMI experts
SK_RSJ
Feb 25, 05, 2:53 am
Hi, a question on EB earnings for BD flights. If I hold a reservation featuring first leg in W (domestic UK MAN-LHR) and the second leg in Q (LHR-MAD) on a one-way, would that make BOTH legs count as discounted economy, or would I be credited with full miles for the Q-leg? If W rules over Q I can make it two separate bookings as layover at LHR is more than 3h and I will not check any baggage. Price would be the same for a combined reseravation v/s two separate ones. Of course it is more convinient to hold one reservation in case of cancellations etc.
I really need the points to keep status.
jacob_m
Feb 25, 05, 4:30 am
If your first leg is booked in W and the second leg in Q you would obviously get 25% for the first leg and 100% for the second leg.
That's the only logical explanation, I doubt it would work as you described it.
Regarding the booking classes, just to let you know if you're not very familiar with BMI, the price difference between a ticket in W and a ticket in V on BMI is normally just a very very few pounds.
So do search around a bit!!
The BMI webpage only finds the cheapest fares but for example on the Austrian Airlines webpage you can first search for the fare you want and then look for availability.
Point_Chaser
Feb 25, 05, 6:14 am
I can confirm that you will in fact get points according to booking class of specific segment. So 25% on first, and 100% on second.
SK_RSJ
Feb 25, 05, 7:02 am
Thank you for quick replies.
MADflyer
Feb 25, 05, 11:00 am
On my last 3 BMI they have followed their own miles chart accept that they give their own members 50% in W while we get just 25%.
http://www.flybmi.com/bmi/en-gb/frequentflyers/howmanymileswilliearn.aspx
I fly the MAD>LHR often and get 800 miles in V which I often try to book as it is usually only £5 or £10 more than W, with 200 miles. Also check for J, business restricted, as it sometimes is available for around £80 and bags you 1600 miles. Usually when you find the £20 fare when searching cheapest.
Monarch Air starts flying Manchester to Madrid in April. Wont help to get miles, but may be hard to resist a direct option for one-way fares of only £13 now on advance purchase.
kempis
Feb 26, 05, 1:28 am
MAN-LHR-MAD in V the entire way is actually cheaper then a combination of W and Q.
SK_RSJ
Feb 26, 05, 9:00 am
MAN-LHR-MAD in V the entire way is actually cheaper then a combination of W and Q.
kempis, please tell me how you found that V-fare. I need to book today and I am going from MAN to MAD on march 20. (I have a connecting flight on JK in J at 17.45).
MADflyer
Feb 26, 05, 3:56 pm
kempis, please tell me how you found that V-fare. I need to book today and I am going from MAN to MAD on march 20. (I have a connecting flight on JK in J at 17.45).
I hope he posts as well. I have not figured out how to book even by schedule on flybmi.com. Madrid doesnt come up from MAN. I have just checked until a V comes up on my dates, but they do change fares often with their yield management system. Not so good for my time management though.
I will mention that I was told that all BMI fares except the web only T or N can be booked with agents, with SAS reservations in Sweden( if the agent knows how to do it) or by calling
+44 (0)1332 854854 (callers outside UK)
opening hours Mon to Sun 7am to 9pm UK
They add 5 pounds to each segment not booked online. I have heard the calls are being sent to India now as well.
kempis
Feb 27, 05, 3:26 am
Sorry for the late reply. I am not sure you can choose to book a V class ticket with BMI online so my suggestion is to contact a travel agency and ask for a quote in V class on man-lhr-mad with BD.
krzysz
Feb 27, 05, 4:45 am
Sorry for the late reply. I am not sure you can choose to book a V class ticket with BMI online so my suggestion is to contact a travel agency and ask for a quote in V class on man-lhr-mad with BD.
There is a way to book flights in the class you want on the Austrian Airlines website.
1. Go to www.aua.com and create an AirManager profile for yourself.
2. Log in and choose "Book by price".
3. Enter the dates, select your preferred airlines etc. and continue to the next page.
4. The page will show different class options. To find the booking class, click on [i].
5. A pop-up window will appear.
6. In order to see the booking class, you have to open the pop-up in a new window, so as to see the adress line (URL). In internet explorer you can do this by pressing Ctrl+N.
7. Look for the booking code in the address line. For example, here:
https://book2.aua.com/AM/business/AT/booking/asp/fareConditions.asp?farebasis=AMS-OSL-27APR2005-10MAY2005--SK-UNLSAS|129.00-EUR-U&language=EN_GB
the booking code is UNLSAS, so the booking class is U.
8. If that's not what you want, choose a different class option from the list and continue.
9. The next page will list the flights available in the selected class. Now you can book them. ^
jacob_m
Feb 28, 05, 6:05 pm
Yes krzysz is right.
I fly fairly often on BMI from London Heathrow to various destinations on mainland Europe (they cover the most important destinations) so I've learnt a bit on the way.
The BMI webpage will only display the cheapest fare it can find, so if there there are tickets in W still available it will show that if you choose to search for the cheapest fare. There are also the even cheaper "webfares" which can cost as little as £29 LHR-CDG for example, these are booked in T (also 25%).
As several people have confirmed the difference between a W-fare and V-fare is as little as a few British pounds depending on the route so it is really worth the effort to check different options and not accept what the BMI webpage suggests.
The webpage, btw, very clearly shows what bookingclass your ticket will be booked in which is good.
A good way to find the best fare is to follow krzysz's instructions and use the Austrian Airlines webpage.
Also keep in mind that almost all major routes from LHR to mainland Europe are codeshares with Lufthansa (LHR-AMS/BRU/CDG/rest of UK for example) so if a particular flight is sold out in bookingclass V with BD prefix there may still be seats available with LH prefix in the same bookingclass.
Although it is always cheaper to book the flight with BD prefix, about £1-2 cheaper for intra-European economy fares. I read this is because Lufthansa has some kind of insurance fee included in the price whereas BMI does not have that.
It is never a bad idea to experiment a bit before purchasing a ticket.