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Luftbgy
Jan 17, 05, 3:28 am
Read Handelsblatt for 3 months and earn 10,000 award miles

Test Handelsblatt for 3 months at the special price of €69.60 instead of the regular €100.00 and earn 10,000 award miles on top. Thereafter you can subscribe the Handelsblatt for €35.00 per month and recieve 1.000 miles monthly. That way you can earn up to 22,000 award miles in 15 months!

It's Now back !

http://www.miles-and-more.com/mam/de/en/emi/0,3678,0-0-1305810,00.html

:cool:


hardhat
Jan 17, 05, 5:21 am
I am not sure. May be LH has not changed the website yet.

bertheike
Jan 17, 05, 7:08 am
I am not sure. May be LH has not changed the website yet. No , that´s a different offer from the first one.
which was 3 month 66 Euro and 13.000 miles.
but even the new one is still ok.


Luftbgy
Jan 17, 05, 12:01 pm
No , that´s a different offer from the first one.
which was 3 month 66 Euro and 13.000 miles.
but even the new one is still ok.

Yes. I joined the old promo and I get the 13000 miles for 70.
Now I'm going to do 2 subscriptions ..... for 20.000 points....
For 140 euro.... A nice promo !
:cool:

steff
Jan 18, 05, 1:58 am
Das "Handelsblatt", Deutschlands führende Wirtschafts- und Finanzzeitung, hat seine verkaufte Auflage im vierten Quartal 2004 um 3,6 Prozent auf 146 706 Exemplare gesteigert. Das sind 5 048 Exemplare mehr als im Vorquartal. Die Zahl der Abonnements stieg im gleichen Zeitraum um 3,8 Prozent 96 520. Im Jahresdurchschnitt 2004 lag die verkaufte Auflage des Handelsblatt bei 143 929 Exemplaren (2003: 145 746).

Perhaps we ordered too much :rolleyes:

bonusmeilen
Jan 22, 05, 8:32 am
I asked them for Brussels, and it's the same price (70 Euro) in Belgium as it in in Germany.

CallVienna
Jan 26, 05, 1:49 am
Hello.

I got a question regarding these vouchers Handelsblatt is supposed to send out for subscriptions.

As a non-German member (based in VIE), can I use these vouchers too? The Miles and More team in VIE is not aware about vouchers.

Thanks for any input,

CV

daumueller
Jan 26, 05, 3:39 am
Hello.

I got a question regarding these vouchers Handelsblatt is supposed to send out for subscriptions.

As a non-German member (based in VIE), can I use these vouchers too? The Miles and More team in VIE is not aware about vouchers.

Thanks for any input,

CV

since I'm US based and it worked, I'd say yes :)

just send them to the german adress (printed on them) to be sure.

cheers,

ben

Luftbgy
Jan 27, 05, 4:08 am
since I'm US based and it worked, I'd say yes :)

just send them to the german adress (printed on them) to be sure.

cheers,

ben

I have just used the oldest promo of 13.000 miles.
They send me the vauchers at the same address of the newspaper, in Italy.
When recived, I compiled and sent to Lh Miles&More address.
After a few weeks, the miles were on my account.

nldogbert
Jan 29, 05, 5:26 am
Hi!

Was wondering if anyone whol participated in the new promotion (i.e. 69 Euro for the 10.000 miles) got a cocktail shaker in their post?

I got a cocktail shaker today. I do hope that this does not in anyway affect me from getting those vouchers! :p

Any idea on this?

Thanks..

:cool:

Knut34
Jan 29, 05, 12:21 pm
ooops :eek: I hope I will not end up with 5 cocktail shackers!!

Sydfly
Jan 29, 05, 10:52 pm
Can anyone who already received those vouchers tell me whether you get 2x 5000 miles or really just one for 10.000 miles. It used to be only 5000 mile vouchers in the past, but I dont' know whether they changed that in the meantime.

Felixberlin
Jan 30, 05, 12:45 am
Hi!

Was wondering if anyone whol participated in the new promotion (i.e. 69 Euro for the 10.000 miles) got a cocktail shaker in their post?

I got a cocktail shaker today. I do hope that this does not in anyway affect me from getting those vouchers! :p

Any idea on this?

Thanks..

:cool:

It seems Handelsblatt is still trying to get away with delivering anything they still have in stock: When ordering the latest coupon promo, they always used to send me a fancy Lamy pen set instead of miles-. In order to get your miles you should send the shaker back to them, stating you did order miles. Just mark something like "erroneous shipping - back to sender" on the envelope, so you won't have to pay any fee to the postal services (At least it worked intragermany).

To Sydfly: Worth of the vouchers does not follow a certain rule as it seems: For a total of 13.000 miles I received 10k+1k+1k+1k as well as 6x2k+1k vouchers. When contacting thier customer support after having ordered your subscription, they should be able to send you what you need.

bertheike
Jan 30, 05, 6:37 am
Can anyone who already received those vouchers tell me whether you get 2x 5000 miles or really just one for 10.000 miles. It used to be only 5000 mile vouchers in the past, but I dont' know whether they changed that in the meantime.
during the old promo ( I ordered 14 ! :D ) I got everething from :

5 * 2k + 3 * 1k
6 * 2k + 1 * 1k
2 * 5k + 3 * 1k
1 * 10K + 1 * 2k + 1 * 1k

now I have more than 60 vouchers to fill out ! I am thinking about to create a word document to print them. Has one tried that ?

daumueller
Jan 30, 05, 6:49 am
during the old promo ( I ordered 14 ! :D ) I got everething from :

5 * 2k + 3 * 1k
6 * 2k + 1 * 1k
2 * 5k + 3 * 1k
1 * 10K + 1 * 2k + 1 * 1k

now I have more than 60 vouchers to fill out ! I am thinking about to create a word document to print them. Has one tried that ?

it's sufficient if you just fill out 1 voucher. worked fine for me (with 13 vouchers sent in).

ben

flying-spider
Jan 30, 05, 9:13 am
I ordered the old promo (13.000 miles) for me and the one with 3.000 miles for my mum and dad. I still get the Handelsblatt and so I ordered the new promo (10.000 miles) for my mum again (more then one week ago) but they haven't sent me (her) a letter yet - does it only works one time per person?

Luftbgy
Jan 30, 05, 10:43 am
I ordered the old promo (13.000 miles) for me and the one with 3.000 miles for my mum and dad. I still get the Handelsblatt and so I ordered the new promo (10.000 miles) for my mum again (more then one week ago) but they haven't sent me (her) a letter yet - does it only works one time per person?

No...I have do the same with my coworkers. I joined the old 13000 promo, and now I ordered for me and my 3 co workers the jurnal.
The have send me the letters and now after the payment I'm waiting the vauchers.
Control the adderess you given them, or contact the customer service.
Let me know.

Luftbgy
Jan 30, 05, 10:52 am
Hi!

Was wondering if anyone whol participated in the new promotion (i.e. 69 Euro for the 10.000 miles) got a cocktail shaker in their post?

I got a cocktail shaker today. I do hope that this does not in anyway affect me from getting those vouchers! :p

Any idea on this?

Thanks..

:cool:

In the letter they send me with service card, there is a paper with the details for the payment ( bank transfer ) and a possibility to have for the subscription a laser point... I will hope they don't send me 4 laser point ( AND NO MILES.... ) ... or I will don't pay them. I check the promo's site. It stills to give 10.000 miles for a subscription.

flying-spider
Jan 31, 05, 6:40 am
In the letter they send me with service card, there is a paper with the details for the payment ( bank transfer ) and a possibility to have for the subscription a laser point... I will hope they don't send me 4 laser point ( AND NO MILES.... ) ... or I will don't pay them. I check the promo's site. It stills to give 10.000 miles for a subscription.

I think you'll get the laser pointer for allowing them to charge the money to your bank account - that's very usual in Germany and the companies really love it! But as far as I know it's only possible within Germany with an German bank account... :confused:

bonusmeilen
Jan 31, 05, 10:29 am
since I'm US based and it worked, I'd say yes :)

just send them to the german adress (printed on them) to be sure.

cheers,

ben
I have sent them a mail, very quick response, and they said it works also for Brussels for the same price 69 Euro plus VAT.

Luftbgy
Jan 31, 05, 11:12 am
I think you'll get the laser pointer for allowing them to charge the money to your bank account - that's very usual in Germany and the companies really love it! But as far as I know it's only possible within Germany with an German bank account... :confused:

No, If you have the SWIF code you can do an international money transfert.
I have just use it, an works like a national transfer.

nldogbert
Feb 1, 05, 6:39 am
Just submitted another order for the new promotion, and guess what, got a returned email saying that I was not eligible to subsribed anymore for this promotion. Here is the exact email.

"thank you for your new order.

We are sorry, but it's not possible, to enter a subsciption twice with a gift
of 10000 miles.
You already ordered a subscription at this address, that is still running.
It also it's not possible to enter this as a renewal after the now running
subscription has suspended.

Best regards

H.Schatz
-Vertrieb Ausland-

Verlagsgruppe HANDELSBLATT GmbH
Kasernenstr.67 Postfach 10 27 16
40213 Düsseldorf 40018 Düsseldorf
Tel.: +49-(0)211 / 887-1736
Fax: +49-(0)211 / 887-97-1736

e-mail: mailto:h.schatz@vhb.de
URL: http://www.vhb.de
URL: http://handelsblatt.com

"

:)

flamboyant 1
Feb 1, 05, 6:54 am
Hehe, and one poster here got the old promo 14 times! But i guess with different names and addresses...that's the trick. But I don't want more than 1 Handelsblatt home anyway. To much paper waste.

OliverLHfan
Feb 4, 05, 3:33 am
Hi everybody,

when you get these vouchers from Handelsblatt, is the name of the subscriber printed on them? Just asking, because I want others to collect some miles for me ...

Think about ist: You need 90000 miles for a flight in BusinessClass to the US, so you need 9 subscribers. That makes € 630,- for a BusinessClass flight .... Well, think about it.

Oliver

Helsinki Flyer
Feb 4, 05, 3:40 am
Hi everybody,

when you get these vouchers from Handelsblatt, is the name of the subscriber printed on them? Just asking, because I want others to collect some miles for me ...

Oliver



It works well, because the vouchers are blank. At least mine were. I ordered both the 13 k and 3 k offers once at the same address. Haven´t yet ordered this new one. I should do it in my wife´s name or as a gift to my sister.

sentom
Feb 4, 05, 3:51 am
Hi everybody,

when you get these vouchers from Handelsblatt, is the name of the subscriber printed on them? Just asking, because I want others to collect some miles for me ...

Think about ist: You need 90000 miles for a flight in BusinessClass to the US, so you need 9 subscribers. That makes € 630,- for a BusinessClass flight .... Well, think about it.

Oliver

can you maybe post your phone number here as well so everybody can call you and scream at you once the promo is discontinued because of people like you... great! thank you!

berenike
Feb 4, 05, 4:02 am
can you maybe post your phone number here as well so everybody can call you and scream at you once the promo is discontinued because of people like you... great! thank you!


I understand your urge. But don't you think Lufthansa does this kind of math when selling the miles to Handelsblatt?

marcydarcy
Feb 4, 05, 4:44 am
I understand your urge. But don't you think Lufthansa does this kind of math when selling the miles to Handelsblatt?

I fully agree to this. I think LH knows that people use their promotions for only that reason and the are ok with it.(As long as it's difficult to get award flights in premium classes...)

marcydarcy

OliverLHfan
Feb 4, 05, 4:59 am
@ sentom

Sorry, but I wasn´t the first who admits collecting several subscriptions to get miles ...

Look at the posts #4, #14, #15 and #17

@ marcydarcy

Is it difficult to get an award for a flight within three months (for example)? What if you book, let´s say, ten months in advance?

marcydarcy
Feb 4, 05, 5:25 am
@ sentom

Sorry, but I wasn´t the first who admits collecting several subscriptions to get miles ...

Look at the posts #4, #14, #15 and #17

@ marcydarcy

Is it difficult to get an award for a flight within three months (for example)? What if you book, let´s say, ten months in advance?

@ oliverlhfan

I just tried to get an award flight 6 month in advance (fra-hkg) (c or f) without success... same last year about 4 month in advance (fra-las)...
i don't want to say that it's impossible but it's not easy all the time....
(it's normal that they want to sell as much premium seats as they can....)

flying-spider
Feb 4, 05, 6:32 am
I fully agree to this. I think LH knows that people use their promotions for only that reason and the are ok with it.(As long as it's difficult to get award flights in premium classes...)

marcydarcy

I talked to a guy who workes at AXA - you know the 2.000 miles promotion - about this and he showed me some brochures... they pay REALLY high prices for the miles to LH...

peter42
Feb 4, 05, 8:01 am
@ sentom

Sorry, but I wasn´t the first who admits collecting several subscriptions to get miles ...

Look at the posts #4, #14, #15 and #17

@ marcydarcy

Is it difficult to get an award for a flight within three months (for example)? What if you book, let´s say, ten months in advance?


It is easy very early (11 months) or very late 7 days or less before the flight.

Winglet
Feb 8, 05, 3:35 am
I just got a phone call from Handelsblatt.
They offered me 20.000 Miles for 195 € for a half year subscription.

:confused: Considering the other offer on the website I could only say friendly "no thanks..." ;)

bertheike
Feb 8, 05, 6:20 am
I fully agree to this. I think LH knows that people use their promotions for only that reason and the are ok with it.(As long as it's difficult to get award flights in premium classes...)

marcydarcy
difficult ???? :confused: :rolleyes:
You should try to get premium seats as a BA-gold :td: , ´to many destinations like BKK , SIN ,HKG , MRU , JNB or CPT it´s nearly impossible to get businessclass seats ! not 11 month and also not 7 days in advance !
With LH I got last October during NRW´s autumholidays as well as over christmas and new year ( that´s the hottest days) 4 seats in "O" to BKK and onward to HKT. And last tuesday I booked 4 seats CGN-MUC-DXB-MUC-CGN in new business ( just for 2 days later departure ) short trip over KARNEVAL.
I would say no airline has better award availability !

ziplaufwerk
Feb 9, 05, 2:56 am
Read Handelsblatt for 3 months and earn 10,000 award miles

Test Handelsblatt for 3 months at the special price of €69.60 instead of the regular €100.00 and earn 10,000 award miles on top. Thereafter you can subscribe the Handelsblatt for €35.00 per month and recieve 1.000 miles monthly. That way you can earn up to 22,000 award miles in 15 months!

It's Now back !

http://www.miles-and-more.com/mam/de/en/emi/0,3678,0-0-1305810,00.html

:cool:


I checked the link and figured out that Handelsblatt only wants my address but not my M&M number. How can I be sure that my account will be credited?

Will I get a voucher or will Handelsblatt credit my account?

May I order the Handelsblatt for several people and earn several times the 10k miles?

fradoc
Feb 9, 05, 5:08 am
I checked the link and figured out that Handelsblatt only wants my address but not my M&M number. How can I be sure that my account will be credited?

Will I get a voucher or will Handelsblatt credit my account?

May I order the Handelsblatt for several people and earn several times the 10k miles?


You will get some blank vouchers (ok, the mileage is already printed...) and you have to fill in your name.

ziplaufwerk
Feb 10, 05, 3:20 am
...But as far as I know it's only possible within Germany with an German bank account... :confused:


I just called the Handelsblatt and after forwarding me three times the lady told me that I can also order it from abroad. They will send me the Handelsblatt with a bill to Poland

OliverLHfan
Feb 14, 05, 12:54 pm
I talked to a guy who workes at AXA - you know the 2.000 miles promotion - about this and he showed me some brochures... they pay REALLY high prices for the miles to LH...

BTW, I think that newspapers like Handelsblatt really don´t care about the amount they have to pay to LH for those miles. They are more intrested in increasing their circulation (number of copies). So they can demand more money for advertising ...

Winglet
Feb 14, 05, 1:58 pm
BTW, I think that newspapers like Handelsblatt really don´t care about the amount they have to pay to LH for those miles. They are more intrested in increasing their circulation (number of copies). So they can demand more money for advertising ...

Additionally I would suggest, that Lufthansa is paying with Lufthansa Miles for all the free Handelsblatt at the airport and maybe also for the advertising in the Handelsblatt. It is just a guess... But it would make sense.

So maybe the deal looks loke that:

Handelsblatt Newspapers + Advertising for Lufthansa in the Handelsblatt in exchange for all the miles. It is a win win situation.

flying-spider
Feb 14, 05, 2:38 pm
BTW, I think that newspapers like Handelsblatt really don´t care about the amount they have to pay to LH for those miles. They are more intrested in increasing their circulation (number of copies). So they can demand more money for advertising ...

Today I've also been called by Handelsblatt due to the 20.000 miles / EUR 195,- offer. I talked to the friendly guy about 15 minutes and he told me that in fact it's to increase their circulation - that's why they started the best promo at the end of last year he said. And it worked...

But he also said that after ordering one promo (eg. 13.000 miles last year) you're blocked for further ones for a longer time... I will test this the next days :D

reiner
Feb 14, 05, 2:59 pm
It' very easy, You must only give yourself a new Christian name, thats what I get 10HB every day. A lot of paper but it was 130.000 miles for 660Euro in :D business to Kuala Lumpur.

Winglet
Feb 14, 05, 3:12 pm
Today I've also been called by Handelsblatt due to the 20.000 miles / EUR 195,- offer. I talked to the friendly guy about 15 minutes and he told me that in fact it's to increase their circulation - that's why they started the best promo at the end of last year he said. And it worked...

But he also said that after ordering one promo (eg. 13.000 miles last year) you're blocked for further ones for a longer time... I will test this the next days :D

Maybe the guy on the phone was the same I was talking to. He was very polite and friendly and gave me exactly the same offer. I rejected his offer and I ordered the next day a new subscribtion with the 10.000 miles offer for 69,60 €. Everything so far worked fine for me. I got a letter from Handelsblatt with my "Abo" Number and the information, that the Handelsblatt delivery will start 16.02.05. and I will receive my miles after payment. Maybe they reject only people with several subscriptions. I actually read the Handelsblatt and only need one copy! :D

By the way, the phone call is predictable, because a friend of mine also got the phone call on the last day of delivery from the old subscription!

monty81
Feb 15, 05, 5:45 am
Maybe they reject only people with several subscriptions. I actually read the Handelsblatt and only need one copy!

They don't even reject those people. Due to a problem with their website I accidentially ordered 2 subscriptions, received two confirmations, one invoice (2x69,60) and two letters with 10000miles each.
The name, adress, email were all the same.

Eagle_Eye
Feb 15, 05, 10:29 am
They don't even reject those people. Due to a problem with their website I accidentially ordered 2 subscriptions, received two confirmations, one invoice (2x69,60) and two letters with 10000miles each.
The name, adress, email were all the same.

I have the same experience...... ^

hugoalone
Feb 16, 05, 12:17 pm
I have the same experience...... ^

How long does it take to receive the voucher after paying the invoice ?

OliverLHfan
Feb 16, 05, 12:52 pm
How long does it take to receive the voucher after paying the invoice ?

I got the voucher one week after I paid the invoice.

monty81
Feb 16, 05, 12:58 pm
How long does it take to receive the voucher after paying the invoice ?

They send them out on Wednesday after receipt of the payment, so in Germany you receive them Thursday.

monty

Concerto
Feb 26, 05, 10:30 am
On Friday I received 13,000 miles worth of paper vouchers for my EUR66 Handelsblatt 3-month Abo. It seems an old-fashioned way of giving miles: I expected them to be credited directly to the M&M account, as the Die Welt promotion was. So I guess one has to fill each one out and send them in. Is it better to send them "recorded delivery" mail, or is ordinary mail OK?

Winglet
Feb 26, 05, 7:50 pm
On Friday I received 13,000 miles worth of paper vouchers for my EUR66 Handelsblatt 3-month Abo. It seems an old-fashioned way of giving miles: I expected them to be credited directly to the M&M account, as the Die Welt promotion was. So I guess one has to fill each one out and send them in. Is it better to send them "recorded delivery" mail, or is ordinary mail OK?

I always used ordinary mail and it works fine. Only a few days later the miles get credited on my account. The paper vouchers do have a receipt on the right hand side which you can keep. If something goes wrong you can call M&M and ask what went wrong. Additionally I would make a copy of the vouchers to be on the safe side. But so far, I had no problems at all with the vouchers.

daumueller
Feb 27, 05, 2:31 am
On Friday I received 13,000 miles worth of paper vouchers for my EUR66 Handelsblatt 3-month Abo. It seems an old-fashioned way of giving miles: I expected them to be credited directly to the M&M account, as the Die Welt promotion was. So I guess one has to fill each one out and send them in. Is it better to send them "recorded delivery" mail, or is ordinary mail OK?

it's sufficient to fill out 1 voucher.

Concerto
Feb 27, 05, 6:14 am
Oh I see: so one doesn't have to fill out each voucher (although it doesn't take too long). So I'll send them ordinary post, as the German Post is pretty excellent (if a bit expensive like in Switzerland).

flying-spider
Feb 27, 05, 8:55 am
German Post is pretty excellent

OT: Haven't realized that yet. In my eyes it's as bad as Deutsche Bahn for example... Companies with no (or nearly no) competition, they can do whatever they want to and you have to use their "services" again and again and that's what they show you every day.

gum
Feb 27, 05, 12:42 pm
OT: Haven't realized that yet. In my eyes it's as bad as Deutsche Bahn for example... Companies with no (or nearly no) competition, they can do whatever they want to and you have to use their "services" again and again and that's what they show you every day.

Just think you could divide the Deutsche Post AG in different products and services. The normal mail and letter service is once you have got your letter into the system excellent. From Munich to any city in Germany the letters are delivered on the next day and not only in business metropols but Germany wide. Going out of Munich at 18.45 Uhr !

The prices are very low ! The only criticism on the Deutsche Post AG is the "privatized" part if Postagenturen where you can buy stamps only in 10stamp packs, have long quees and so on. But you can get stamps very fast if you order them by phone or mail. From a value of 15,00 EUR they're delivered to your door with any surcharge on the stamp price !

Another picture is the "modernized" and international part of the DHL service. Astonishing enough this privatized part is much worse than the letter/mail service which relies on many of the old Deutsche Bundespost personnel.

I myself am very impressed on the letter/mail service. No false delivery, no slow mail service and cheap, :D

Grog
Feb 27, 05, 2:26 pm
On Friday I received 13,000 miles worth of paper vouchers for my EUR66 Handelsblatt 3-month Abo. It seems an old-fashioned way of giving miles: I expected them to be credited directly to the M&M account, as the Die Welt promotion was.

The advantage with vouchers over auto-crediting is that, as a non-status customer, you can wait with crediting, extending the lifetime of the miles longer.

berenike
Feb 27, 05, 2:28 pm
On Friday I received 13,000 miles worth of paper vouchers for my EUR66 Handelsblatt 3-month Abo. It seems an old-fashioned way of giving miles: I expected them to be credited directly to the M&M account, as the Die Welt promotion was. So I guess one has to fill each one out and send them in. Is it better to send them "recorded delivery" mail, or is ordinary mail OK?


Is the 13,000 miles promo still available?

Concerto
Feb 27, 05, 5:13 pm
I don't think the promo is still going. I see what you mean about extending the validity of the miles. But the vouchers are only valid until the end of the year, so likewise the miles would only be valid a few months longer if I credited them in, say, December. I quite honestly think that the sooner you credit these things the better, just in case the whole system changes.

As for the Deutsche Post, I think it is mostly pretty professional. However, I am not so old as to have very clear memories of the time (in the UK anyway) when it was far cheaper to write and post a letter rather than telephone someone. Now, I would venture to say it's pretty much the other way round. I find the Deutsche Post overpriced for the service they offer (which unlike the dreadful, snobby Swiss post), and what really irritates me is how they charge more by the size of the envelope (like the Swiss). It seems you only have to stuff a piece of paper in the envelope to make it overweight and be surcharged. And movements to and from a place like Meiningen are slow.

I have concluded that the French have the best postal system in Europe, but that's another story.

tim str
Feb 28, 05, 3:27 am
[QUOTE=Concerto]But the vouchers are only valid until the end of the year, so likewise the miles would only be valid a few months longer if I credited them in, say, December. [QUOTE]

The vouchers are vaild until December, but the miles are valid 3 years after being credited - or unlimited, if you are FTL, SEN, HON or got a LH credit card.

LH431
Mar 6, 05, 1:37 pm
Hello everybody, maybe one of you can help me.

Today I received my first 10.000 miles voucher from the new Handelsblatt promo.
On the back site of that blank voucher they printed the rules and they say:

"Eine Gutschrift an eine andere als die auf dem Gutschein angegebene Person ist nicht möglich.
Verkauf, Tausch oder Versteigerung dieses Gutscheins ist unzulässig. Der Gutschein verliert in diesem Fall seine Gültigkeit."

My question: Are these blank vouchers valid just for the person who ordered the promo or can I fill in whatever I want to? Does Lufthansa know who received the voucher due to the voucher #?

Thanks a lot
Great forum

hugoalone
Mar 7, 05, 12:33 am
Hello everybody, maybe one of you can help me.

Today I received my first 10.000 miles voucher from the new Handelsblatt promo.
On the back site of that blank voucher they printed the rules and they say:

"Eine Gutschrift an eine andere als die auf dem Gutschein angegebene Person ist nicht möglich.
Verkauf, Tausch oder Versteigerung dieses Gutscheins ist unzulässig. Der Gutschein verliert in diesem Fall seine Gültigkeit."

My question: Are these blank vouchers valid just for the person who ordered the promo or can I fill in whatever I want to? Does Lufthansa know who received the voucher due to the voucher #?

Thanks a lot
Great forum



Hi,

if you read this correct, it says that only the imprinted person can use the voucher. So as long as there is nobody imprinted....
You just print your name on the voucher and then send it to M&M and everything should be fine.

I don't like this auctions, but if M&M agrees to the voucher handling then
some people will sell vouchers, that's how economy works.

LH431
Mar 8, 05, 4:30 am
thanks

thats what I thought too, but I was not sure about it.

I don't want to sell them on ebay. I heard that Lufthansa is not happy about that and sometimes chancel those auctions.
I just asked because I have several Handelsblatt Promos in progress and want to earn all miles on one account.

hugoalone
Mar 8, 05, 6:32 am
thanks

thats what I thought too, but I was not sure about it.

I don't want to sell them on ebay. I heard that Lufthansa is not happy about that and sometimes chancel those auctions.
I just asked because I have several Handelsblatt Promos in progress and want to earn all miles on one account.


That's what I'm doing too.

Selling Miles on Ebay isn't my business. I want to get to cheap C-Class Flights.

OliverLHfan
Apr 24, 05, 9:13 am
Did Handelsblatt cancel their promotion? I´m unable to open the link on the Miles&More Homepage ?!?

UA 882
Apr 24, 05, 11:02 am
Did Handelsblatt cancel their promotion? I´m unable to open the link on the Miles&More Homepage ?!?

It's still there.

http://portal.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_4TB0?cID=6_0_SBF&nID=7_0_4TBJ&l=en&nodeid=1305810

LH431
Apr 24, 05, 1:05 pm
It it not possible to open the link where you can fill in your adress in order to get the promotion.
may be it is canceled....

GlobalExpress
Apr 24, 05, 3:27 pm
It it not possible to open the link where you can fill in your adress in order to get the promotion.
may be it is canceled....
No, I think it´s just down at the moment. Should be working again soon.


To all of you, who have ordered several Handelsblatt promotions: Did you make your orders using only one address? Does HB care whether or not someone orders several promotions?

ziplaufwerk
Apr 24, 05, 3:40 pm
No, I think it´s just down at the moment. Should be working again soon.


To all of you, who have ordered several Handelsblatt promotions: Did you make your orders using only one address? Does HB care whether or not someone orders several promotions?


I ordered two for myself with different addresses and three for other people. Maybe you have also some friends who are interested in receiving the Handelsblatt? You pay them the abo and of course, you get the Miles.

OliverLHfan
Apr 25, 05, 12:51 am
Called their hotline today: the offer is still running. But they were not aware that the link is down.

As GlobalExpress said, I think it must be working soon. Well, I hope so, because I need some miles for my wife. :D

Oliver

LH431
Apr 25, 05, 6:04 am
I've supplied my whole family and friends all over Germany with the Handelsblatt. ^
I get 4 issues every day to one adress. I used different names but two of them have the same surname. No problem at all!

BTW-> You can get rid of the newspaper if you call the hotline and say that you want a temporary interruption of the abo
(e.g. "Urlaubsunterbrechnung")
First time they transfered money to my bank account back for the issues during the interrupion.
The other time they said that the abo will continue after the 3 month period.

emozioni
Apr 25, 05, 6:51 am
My dear friends! Please, in the name of our nature, do NOT order the newspaper if you don't need it! It is a huge waste of energy and paper!

What is fairly ok: You order the Handelsblatt, and after about two or three weeks you send them an email, telling that you don't want to receive the newspaper anymore. You still have what you want: Your miles.

Isn't it up to us not to take care of our environment? Yes, it is. :-:

bertheike
Apr 25, 05, 8:06 am
It's still there.

http://portal.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_4TB0?cID=6_0_SBF&nID=7_0_4TBJ&l=en&nodeid=1305810

try this link

https://sap.vhb.de/scripts/wgate/jkwww01/!?key_control=50&~OKCODE=STRT&~theme=50&RJKWWW01-MATNR=MILES%2010000

Kiwi Flyer
Apr 25, 05, 1:05 pm
Okay folks please keep things civil.

Kiwi Flyer
LH Moderator

Concerto
Apr 29, 05, 5:56 pm
It has to be said that, following their EUR66 promotion a few months ago, Handelsblatt keep on sending the papers even though I sent in a letter cancelling it. They really want you to keep buying their papers, and it's quite a job offloading these Abonnements. Just like in the UK, newspapers are desparate to sell copies!

Knut34
Apr 30, 05, 12:41 am
It has to be said that, following their EUR66 promotion a few months ago, Handelsblatt keep on sending the papers even though I sent in a letter cancelling it. They really want you to keep buying their papers, and it's quite a job offloading these Abonnements. Just like in the UK, newspapers are desparate to sell copies!

I would call them and ask about the status of your subscription. I got no papers after cancelling, but an invoice... After faxing them the cancellation confirmation everything was OK.

bertheike
Apr 30, 05, 4:03 am
I would call them and ask about the status of your subscription. I got no papers after cancelling, but an invoice... After faxing them the cancellation confirmation everything was OK.
We had 19 subscriptions ordered for all our family. And so far no problem!
Ordered , confirmation, bill, payed, got voucher, canceled, asked and got cancelation confirmed, and after 3 month no more newspaper.
The only thing was, that 2 or 3 of our family got a phonecall with an offer to subscipe again.

Now we have ordered 6 new subscriptions, just got the first bill yesterday.

LH431
Apr 30, 05, 4:37 am
Please, in the name of our nature, do NOT order the newspaper if you don't need it! It is a huge waste of energy and paper!

Isn't it up to us not to take care of our environment? Yes, it is. :-:
Come on! Be relaxed about that!

ngfan
Apr 30, 05, 9:18 am
For those who have no use in getting more than one copy each morning why not talking to the publisher and donate them to a social institution like a hospital. Many German newspapers offer this service. I guess many patients in hospitals would be happy to read the Handelsblatt for free.

Just my two cents.

Concerto
May 1, 05, 2:54 am
For those who have no use in getting more than one copy each morning why not talking to the publisher and donate them to a social institution like a hospital. Many German newspapers offer this service. I guess many patients in hospitals would be happy to read the Handelsblatt for free.

Just my two cents.


Welcome to Flyertalk ngfan ! Please do this and post the contact from Handelsblatt here on the board. After I will also order some copies and spend them to the hospital! :D

Knut34
May 1, 05, 6:12 am
For those who have no use in getting more than one copy each morning why not talking to the publisher and donate them to a social institution like a hospital. Many German newspapers offer this service. I guess many patients in hospitals would be happy to read the Handelsblatt for free.

Just my two cents.


And let the hospital issue a donation receipt :D

W Nippert
May 1, 05, 10:45 am
For those who have no use in getting more than one copy each morning why not talking to the publisher and donate them to a social institution like a hospital.
Just my two cents.
/sarcasm on:
Or the local shelters :D , - Keeping in mind that Germany´s economy had been droppig constantly, it might remind some folks there of the good old days...
/sarcasm off

Frequent_Flyer1
May 1, 05, 11:13 am
Well,

if somebody is tired of getting more than one Handelsblatt to his home, I would be more than willing to "help" you and take one... :)

Have a nice evening ^

vienna-resident
May 1, 05, 12:46 pm
Well,

if somebody is tired of getting more than one Handelsblatt to his home, I would be more than willing to "help" you and take one... :)

Have a nice evening ^

I'll be more than happy to order one for you and pay for it (of course you'd have to forward me the miles voucher :) )

send me a pm if you're interested ^

Hamburg
May 2, 05, 2:42 pm
Handelsblatt change the Aktion.
From 10.000 to 7,000 Miles (1.5.2005)
Handelsblatt (http://portal.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_4TB9/_s.7_0_A/7_0_4TB9)

GlobalExpress
May 2, 05, 4:27 pm
Handelsblatt change the Aktion.
From 10.000 to 7,000 Miles (1.5.2005)
Handelsblatt (http://portal.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_4TB9/_s.7_0_A/7_0_4TB9)
Some of you guys really must have placed some heavy orders there... :-)))

hugoalone
May 3, 05, 5:26 am
Handelsblatt change the Aktion.
From 10.000 to 7,000 Miles (1.5.2005)
Handelsblatt (http://portal.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/!ut/p/.cmd/cs/.ce/7_0_A/.s/7_0_4TB9/_s.7_0_A/7_0_4TB9)

Ordered yesterday morning a 10.000 Miles Abo, since yesterday night it changed to 7.000.


So now only "Die Welt" and "Die Welt am Sonntag" has the best miles ratio

querulant
May 3, 05, 8:00 am
It is strange, because I have ordered today an Abo for 10000 Miles... .

Tim2008
May 3, 05, 9:51 am
It´s up to 10000 miles again!

nldogbert
May 4, 05, 9:04 am
It´s up to 10000 miles again!


Are you sure? I just checked it today and it is still 7000 miles in the Handelsblatt pop-up window for the subscription. And I noticed that they have also added an entry for where to deposit the miles, thus the M&M no. needs to be fill in now. I guess this could be a sign that they have found a good way to limit the same person getting the miles :confused: I don't know if you can put someone elses name but your own M&M account number. Anyway, as stated earlier, with this reduction of miles, it comes up to be about 1 eurocent/mile. Not too bad, but not that great either!

:)

bertheike
May 4, 05, 11:13 am
Try the following direkt link
https://sap.vhb.de/scripts/wgate/jkwww01/!?key_control=50&~OKCODE=STRT&~theme=50&RJKWWW01-MATNR=MILES%2010000

The M&L no. is optional !
But now it says "Bitte beachten Sie, dass nur eine Bestellung pro Adresse möglich ist. "
And I think that is new.

flamboyant 1
May 4, 05, 3:07 pm
Yes, only 7000 Miles. But I am glad we do not have the Handelsblatt anymore after 6 consecutive months which ended in April. More a paper waste in our household.

emozioni
May 9, 05, 6:21 pm
Yes, only 7000 Miles. But I am glad we do not have the Handelsblatt anymore after 6 consecutive months which ended in April. More a paper waste in our household.

Pfffffff.... 7k miles ... Not worth anymore!

kempis
Aug 2, 05, 12:38 pm
Time to send in some vouchers.

Is the address printed on the voucher correct?

Miles and More International GMBH
Postfach 1555
63235 Neu-Isenburg

I doesnt mention country but my wild guess is that it should be Germany..

flying-spider
Aug 2, 05, 12:45 pm
Yes, I always use this address. You are right, it's a German address.

Winglet
Mar 26, 06, 12:09 pm
As I like reading the Handelsblatt every morning I subscribe the newspaper with the 7.000 miles offer for 3 month and cancel it after getting the miles as voucher. I am doing this four times a year and sometimes I do get the 7.000 miles as 7 x 1.000 miles vouchers. (Quite alot of work filling out all the vouchers :D )

Anyway, this time they did not send me the vouchers. Instead they send me a letter with the information, that the miles have been credited to my M&M account directly. I just had a quick look and it is true. So maybe this is a new policy that they do not give out any vouchers anymore.

A380-SQ
Mar 26, 06, 3:33 pm
easier for you and easier for them to do this way

oliver2002
Apr 17, 06, 3:48 am
Looked at my vouchers a few weeks ago as part of some desk tidying up and realised with horror that aprox 30K worth of HB vouchers had expired on March 31. :(

Nevertheless sent them in to MMI in Neu Isenburg along with the sueddeutsche vouchers from another promo and with relief noticed that all vouchers credited a few days later. ^ to MMI!

Maybe the fact that I mailed them from my hotel in Meissen during the days of the elbe floods earlier this month helped...

SASfan
Nov 3, 07, 1:21 pm
Is this Handelsblatt offer still available??

DownUnderFlyer
Nov 3, 07, 2:23 pm
Is this Handelsblatt offer still available??

Yes: http://www.miles-and-more.com/online/portal/mam/de/earnmiles/miles_and_shop?l=en&nodeid=1305810

Didn't know the Handelsblatt is that popular in Chile.... ;)

SASfan
Nov 11, 07, 3:32 pm
Didn't know the Handelsblatt is that popular in Chile.... ;)

Ha! Anything that can get me some LH miles is popular!

But sounds like this is not such a great deal any more...only 7k miles.

Fly2LAX
Nov 11, 07, 4:38 pm
Ha! Anything that can get me some LH miles is popular!

But sounds like this is not such a great deal any more...only 7k miles.

I hope you have some kind of a garbage catcher in germany:

"This offer is only valid for members with a permanent residence in Germany."

SASfan
Nov 11, 07, 4:46 pm
"This offer is only valid for members with a permanent residence in Germany."

Yes, I saw that. I normally order them for a friend or donate to a library.

Need any newspapers? ;)

oliver2002
Nov 11, 07, 7:31 pm
Some even sell the papers via Ebay. Just look under 'handelsblatt' on ebay.de

s5804
Nov 22, 07, 6:50 am
The offer seems to 74,40 Euro for 7000 points.
But on LH web site it still say 69,60 Euro.

Someone know if the older deals are still possible to get?

Personally I find point prices over 1 cent per mile to expensive.
But I am very new to this so therefore I have little idea how often you get less than 1 cent per point deals over a year.



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