Trip Reports - Australia/New Zealand from the UK in Qantas J




duncan417
Nov 7, 04, 3:50 am
LHR-BKK
Thursday 4th November 2004

Check in was at Terminal 4 Zone D. It only appeared to be for business and first class passengers so I don’t know where the economy pax were checking in. It was a check in for several different Oneworld flights and despite the 4 open desks there was a wait of around 15mins before we hit the front of the queue. Disappointed to discover we weren’t in the pre-allocated seats upstairs, but rather in 25 J&K downstairs. I guess we’ll have to wait a bit longer to experience the upper cabin in 747,(fingers crossed for the return).

Next it was on to fast track security, which didn’t really live up to its name. Im sure it would have been quicker to use the normal queues as there were several security points open due to just how busy the airport was, a concept which didn’t appear to have made it across to fast track where there was just one checkpoint operating.

So far it has to be said that our experience of priority business class treatment was not living up to expectations, but maybe the lounge would change that. Qantas at LHR use the BA lounges of which there are two available to non status J class ticket holders. As our flight would be departing from Gate 10 we used the lounge almost immediately opposite. The lounge was moderately sized but with enough room for the passengers using it and some spare chairs. Food is in the way of a self serve buffet of seemingly never ending supply of sandwiches, and selection of other bagged snacks such as pretzels, twiglets, and cake. There is a reasonably well stocked bar where you can help yourself to whatever takes your fancy. Whilst the lounge was not exactly amazing it was certainly a tranquil escape from the chaos of the main terminal.

Before long it was almost time to board so we made our way to the gate, which as I mentioned was handily placed immediately opposite the lounge. The gates in terminal 4 always strike me as a little odd as they seem to be placed in the middle of a shopping centre! Its not that there are a few shops in the vicinity of the gate, rather that the gate is totally surrounded by them. So combine shoppers, fellow passengers for our flight, and a host of people wandered up and down the terminal looking for their own gates and you have a recipe for disaster. Add to this a PA system that is woefully inadequate and there is just no way that boarding is going to be civilized. Once boarding started, (possibly announced over the PA but the first anyone at the gate knew was when staff removed the barriers to the gate!) a mass of people just surged forward. The member of staff guarding the first/business class gate took one look at Mrs duncan417 and directed us toward the back of the economy queue. A polite word from me pointing to our BPs soon resolved that problem. Next time Mrs duncan417 will have to make more of an effort to look the part!

Once on the aircraft we were offered pre flight champagne, orange juice, or water, (no prizes for guessing which option we chose!). Those with jackets were asked if they would like them hung up in the closet. We just sat back with our bubbly and watched the hordes of people seated down the back board, feeling glad we were not joining them.

Being a flight from London to Sydney we had the relatively new ‘Skybed’ business seat. Its not horizontal flat bed like BA’s but rather a lie flat at an angle one. The angle isn’t to steep, though I did find it easier to sleep with a slight Z shape to the bed. There are lots of fine tuning controls to enable you to position it just how you want, and even a massage button which applies wave of pressure down your back and is pretty relaxing. I think the best thing about the seat is that they are housed in a kind of cocoon shell which means that no matter how much the guy in front reclines his seat it never changes your personal space, which makes the generous pitch feel even better.

Our flight was due to depart at 21:45 and we took off pretty much on time. Being such a late start the crew were straight round with the starters as soon as we were cruising. Orders were taken for the main course and we were addressed by name. The food is served on china plates and the cutlery CAA approved plastic. The water and wine were kept topped up throughout dinner by very attentive FA’s, who even offered us tea when noticing that we had both woken up several hours into the ‘enforced’ sleep period that separated dinner and breakfast.

About an hour and a half before landing in Bangkok breakfast was served. This was pre-ordered by filling in a kind of room service card before take-off, (to enable them to let you sleep a bit longer before waking you). One tip for those of you facing these cards for the first time is that if you want milk with your tea there are a couple of boxes below the one for tea to let you choose the type of milk you want. Forget to tick one of these, (or like me not realize the significance!) and you will get it black. A problem soon solved by asking for some from the previously mentioned FA’s.

Not long after breakfast is finished the descent into Bangkok began, completed with a landing so gentle you barely realized you were on the ground! In fact the most memorable thing about it was the un-fenced golf course between the take-off and landing runways! Surely there are some safety and security issues there!

Just a few minutes later we were off the plane and looking for the lounge...


Fliar
Nov 7, 04, 4:36 am
Great stuff. Keep it comin' !

duncan417
Nov 8, 04, 3:55 am
BKK-SYD
Friday 5th November

The Qantas Club in Bangkok is a little tired, particularly the toilets where the taps were broken. That said it was clean and quiet with a couple of PCs for trawling the internet while your there. You can also help yourself to drinks/nibbles. There were also showers, though we didn’t take the time to try them so cant comment on the effectiveness.

It wasn’t long before it was time to reboard the aircraft for the final leg to Sydney so we set off for the gate. A pre-flight glass of bubbly later and we were taxi-ing. Interestingly the FA’s gave out amenity kits to all passengers again, not just those boarding in Bangkok. Mrs duncan417 is now collecting them with a view to redistribute for Christmas. A little cheap if you ask me!!

The flight departed Bangkok on time at around 17:45 which meant it was a little early for dinner so the FA’s, (who were a different crew than made the LHR-BKK trip), came round offering a full bar service. I thought I kill some pre-dinner time on my laptop, the new Skybed seats include a full AC mains plug rather then the Empower system in use with many other airlines. It takes pretty much any mains plug in the world with the notable exception of a UK 3-pin. This means that no-one needs to buy an expensive adapter, but those of us in the UK need to remember to pack our travel plugs in the carry-on.

After an hour or so the FA’s began taking orders for dinner. This time it was done in a seemingly random way as they moved throughout the cabin, which probably meant it was done in FF order. (On the LHR-BKK leg it was down starting at the back of the cabin moving forward). Being lowly BA blues, and on heavily discounted fares we were just about last to have our orders taken. This meant that they had run out of one of the choices, (and it just happened to be Mrs duncan417 choice). Now if this had happened on the previous leg it really wouldn’t have been a problem as all three options were great, but I was struggling to find something I fancied this time. I understand the desire to reward those frequent flyers but it shouldn’t really be at the expense of others who have paid a very sizable sum of money, even on the discounted fares. Also for those being sat immediately next to the galley, (not us on this trip), being served first goes some way to make for the disruption. Imagine having the noise/traffic of the galley then not being able to order the meal of your choice because those sat in better seats have taken it! I know there is no fair way to take food orders, but perhaps airlines should consider taking more food to prevent disappointment, after all the total cost of food is tiny compared to airfare. Anyway, moan over(!), the other options on the menu that we chose were surprisingly tasty.

As before water/wine etc were kept topped up throughout the meal, but I didn’t feel the FA’s on this leg were quite as good as the previous one, (they were still good though). I don’t think I mentioned it above but the dessert is brought round on a trolley like in some restaurants.

After the meal the cabin lights were dimmed so as we could all get some sleep. Only problem was that dinner had taken so long to serve, mainly due to the delay caused by having to seek out each FF in descending order rather than just whisk down each aisle, that with breakfast due to be served about one and a half hours before landing there wasn’t a whole lot of time left.

(Breakfast into Bangkok had a cooked option on it, whereas into Sydney it was just the cereal and fruit options.)

The rest of the flight was fairly uneventful and we landed at Sydney at about 06:15. It then took less than 30mins to taxi to the gate, disembark, clear immigration, collect baggage (which was on the belt before we got there!), clear customs and quarantine, (where they x-ray all bags for plants and foodstuffs), and get a cab! If only all international arrivals were this painless.

We were off to Sydney city centre for a few days before returning to the airport for our flights to New Zealand…


duncan417
Nov 26, 04, 12:07 pm
SYD-WLG
Wednesday 10th November

We arrived at the airport in plenty of time for our evening departure, which meant there was lots of time to experience the Sydney Qantas Club. Its quite long but relatively narrow, with reasonable views out across the airport, and a great one of the Sydney skyline.

The flight boarded on-time, with us and our fellow business class passengers going first. This flight was on a 737, (operated by JetConnect on behalf of Qantas), and there was only 8 J seats, (all filled). The seats are a little tired, but more than comfortable for the ‘short’ hop across to NZ. The aircraft has no in-seat entertainment, but those of us up front get personal DVD players and a selection of movies. The only problem with the players is that the volume level, even at max, is a little too low and quieter dialogue is lost in the background noise of the aircrafts engines.

Soon after departure the menu for dinner is distributed, with 3 choices for mains and a couple for dessert. I choose the fillet of beef and find it to be the best I have ever had on a plane. (The mango ice cream for dessert was also very good.) Back in economy they just got either chicken curry or vegetable pasta, with the crew apologizing for running out of one or the other in advance over the PA system so I didn’t rate the chances of those in the last few rows…

Other than that the flight was pretty uneventful and we arrived in Wellington slightly early. As an entry airport it must be more popular with residents than tourists as the 5 immigration desks were split 4-1 in favour of NZ citizens, (no surprise), but the only one with no queues was the one for foreign nationals. It’s the first time I’ve ever cleared immigration faster than the residents of the country!

Kiwi Flyer
Nov 26, 04, 1:07 pm
Great report.

The 4 lanes in WLG immigration isnt that surprising when consider NZ and Australians use them, and WLG isnt a major tourist entry/exit point.



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