Hilton HHonors - Are there any weird stay limits like at Starwood?




srodr
Oct 20, 04, 7:32 pm
I'm staying a few months in an Embassy and coming up on my first month. Are there any sort of rules I should know about that might prompt me to check out and then back in again (like at Starwood where >30 days stay doesn't earn points)???


zsmith2
Oct 20, 04, 7:34 pm
I believe the same applies with Hilton.

xyzzy
Oct 20, 04, 8:05 pm
In other threads on this topic people have spoken with managers at the hotel to ensure that they don't lose out on points. Checking out and immediately checking back in won't work, as consecutive stays at the same poperty with no break in between count as a single stay.


pdhenry
Oct 20, 04, 8:10 pm
There's (also) a limit of 100,000 base points per stay. Presumably bonus points (double dip, elite bonus) can be earned above the 100,000 point limit. Can't find anything in the terms and conditions about a 30 day limit, however.

Eugene
Oct 20, 04, 8:12 pm
I believe the same applies with Hilton.

Not quite. While Starwood has a limit on number of days, HH has a limit of base points one can earn during one stay (100,000). That's not counting bonuses, so essentially, you earn points on the first $10K of your spending during a single stay.

Eugene
Oct 20, 04, 8:15 pm
In other threads on this topic people have spoken with managers at the hotel to ensure that they don't lose out on points.

If you are negotiating something above and beyond the official rules of the HH program, I would strongly recommend getting everything in writing, as I've read reports on FT (in the Starwood forum, but none the less) when hotels reneg on their promises.

srodr
Oct 23, 04, 11:20 pm
So if I'm staying about 70 nights at a long term stay rate of $109, I should be safe I guess. Unless of course my gold bonus is also considered base points. And I also chose the 5 extra points per night as my double dip, so will all 17.5 points per dollar be considered base points? If so then I will be over 100k.

Maybe I should talk to the manager to make sure I don't get screwed.

bigjim
Oct 24, 04, 6:53 am
So if I'm staying about 70 nights at a long term stay rate of $109, I should be safe I guess. Unless of course my gold bonus is also considered base points. And I also chose the 5 extra points per night as my double dip, so will all 17.5 points per dollar be considered base points? If so then I will be over 100k.

Maybe I should talk to the manager to make sure I don't get screwed.

I would definitely talk to the manager. I think that in most areas the 30 days has something to do with hotel laws and the difference between hotels and apartments (i.e. I think that in some areas it's possible to get hotel lodging taxes waived at 30 days and beyond.

pdhenry
Oct 24, 04, 9:24 am
So if I'm staying about 70 nights at a long term stay rate of $109, I should be safe I guess. Unless of course my gold bonus is also considered base points. And I also chose the 5 extra points per night as my double dip, so will all 17.5 points per dollar be considered base points? If so then I will be over 100k.Base points is the regular 10 points/pre-tax dollar. Anything else is bonus points, even when the name of the bonus is "double base points." Make sense? :)

wbl-mn-flyer
Oct 24, 04, 12:42 pm
So if I'm staying about 70 nights at a long term stay rate of $109, I should be safe I guess. Unless of course my gold bonus is also considered base points. And I also chose the 5 extra points per night as my double dip, so will all 17.5 points per dollar be considered base points? If so then I will be over 100k.

Maybe I should talk to the manager to make sure I don't get screwed.


just to be safe, at least, after your 60th hilton night for the year, start working towards a status level with marriott or Starwood, Hyatt, etc... Maybe 35 nights into your 70 nights stay, spend a week at a different property. Then move back to your hilton...

BigLar
Oct 24, 04, 12:46 pm
I would definitely talk to the manager. I think that in most areas the 30 days has something to do with hotel laws and the difference between hotels and apartments (i.e. I think that in some areas it's possible to get hotel lodging taxes waived at 30 days and beyond.
I believe that over 30 days you're considered a "resident". Not only are future room taxes waived, but you might get a rebate on the taxes you've already paid! It's happened to me.

bigjim
Oct 24, 04, 12:58 pm
I believe that over 30 days you're considered a "resident". Not only are future room taxes waived, but you might get a rebate on the taxes you've already paid! It's happened to me.

I think that this is where most frequent stay programs also stop awarding points. I'd confirm with the manager and get an e-mail or something in writing.



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