Other Middle East and Africa Frequent Flyer Programs - El Al 60% NYC TLV market share; CO 20%




Bretteee
Oct 3, 04, 9:46 pm
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/484505.html

According to this article more people are flying El Al between New York and Tel Aviv; LY now controls 60% of the market and Continental 20%.


NJFlyGuy
Oct 3, 04, 10:15 pm
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/484505.html

According to this article more people are flying El Al between New York and Tel Aviv; LY now controls 60% of the market and Continental 20%.

Not very surprising. Given El Al's security reputation and the fact that all of its in-flight meal service is kosher (even on CO you have to put in a special request, often an iffy proposition as most of us know), many travellers to Israel will only fly El Al.

I flew LY to Israel in 1998. While not terrible, and probably better than many US carriers, it was still far from a world class airline. I hear that it has improved considerably since then though.

apirchik
Oct 4, 04, 10:24 am
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/484505.html

According to this article more people are flying El Al between New York and Tel Aviv; LY now controls 60% of the market and Continental 20%.

The article is about the market of North America to TLV including Toronto, Chicago and Los Angeles (where LY fly direct to or from). I doubt the numbers as they do not have the number of passengers that connect in Europe via LH, LX, KL, BA, AZ and more. I also believe they do not count destinations that LY do not fly to.
LH should take about 5-10% of the overall N. America market from TLV, BA whould take about 3-5%, Air Canada would take around 6-8%. This adds to more than 100%.

Specifically per New York, CO's market share is larger than 20%.


Bretteee
Oct 5, 04, 7:54 pm
<<I flew LY to Israel in 1998. While not terrible, and probably better than many US carriers, it was still far from a world class airline. I hear that it has improved considerably since then though.[/QUOTE]>>

I think LY offers excellent service, at least from Europe.

NJFlyGuy
Oct 6, 04, 5:42 pm
<<I flew LY to Israel in 1998. While not terrible, and probably better than many US carriers, it was still far from a world class airline. I hear that it has improved considerably since then though.>>

I think LY offers excellent service, at least from Europe.[/QUOTE]

I have heard similar statements, that El Al has improved in recent years. But I haven't flown El Al since 1998, so I have no other perspective. Hence, why I qualified my statement.

Bretteee
Oct 6, 04, 10:38 pm
>>I have heard similar statements, that El Al has improved in recent years. But I haven't flown El Al since 1998>>

I know that many bad mouth El Al. I never understood why. I have flown them on average once a year since 1962; 42 years and never had a bad experience. My first flight was on a Boeing 720B from London to New York. My mother took her first LY flight from TLV to Cyprus in 1950 and she won't fly to Israel on any other airline.



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