Newsstand - Government Wants ID Arguments Secret




FliesWay2Much
Sep 7, 04, 10:45 am
Looks like yours & my United States Government filed a state's secrets motion in the Gilmore ID case. It also looks as if they intend to argue separately in camera without Gilmore or his attorney being present. The proper thing would be for the government to clear Gilmore's attorney and argue its case in front of the judge with his attorney present. I'm sure the only thing that gets through the redaction process will be the letterhead. At the very least, the government is going to have to prove to the judge that the "SSI" is properly classified.


SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- The U.S. Department of Justice has asked an appellate court to keep its arguments secret for a case in which privacy advocate John Gilmore is challenging federal requirements to show identification before boarding an airplane.

A federal statute and other regulations "prohibit the disclosure of sensitive security information, and that is precisely what is alleged to be at issue here," the government said in court papers filed Friday with the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Disclosing the restricted information "would be detrimental to the security of transportation," the government wrote.

Gilmore first sued the government and several airlines in July 2002 after airline agents refused to let him board planes in San Francisco and Oakland without first showing an ID or submitting to a more intense search. He claimed in his lawsuit the ID requirement was vague and ineffective and violated his constitutional protections against illegal searches and seizures.

A U.S. District Court judge earlier this year dismissed his claims against the airlines, but said his challenge to the government belonged in a federal appellate court.



Remembered the link this time: http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/06/airline.id.ap/index.html


Spiff
Sep 7, 04, 3:21 pm
What the hell has happened to the US Justice system?

Secret laws, secret meetings, secret arguments, secret this, secret that.

Screw all this idiotic secrecy and idiotic insecurity. :td: :td:

Regime Change 2004 - Housecleaning has to begin somewhere.

xyzzy
Sep 8, 04, 7:41 pm
Regime Change 2004 - Housecleaning has to begin somewhere.Regime change DEFINITELY begins at home! -- But I don't think Kerry will be much better. There's too much pandering for the votes of the sheeple looking to feel "secure."


Spiff
Sep 8, 04, 8:02 pm
Regime change DEFINITELY begins at home! -- But I don't think Kerry will be much better. There's too much pandering for the votes of the sheeple looking to feel "secure."

I have few illusions about Kerry too, but I'm so angry at Bush that I'd vote for Al Sharpton to replace him. :eek:

"You go now! You been here 4 year! Insecurity boy, you make me poor!"

-With apologies to John Pinette (http://www.johnpinette.com/)

xyzzy
Sep 8, 04, 8:41 pm
I have few illusions about Kerry too, but I'm so angry at Bush that I'd vote for Al Sharpton to replace him. :eek:Sharpton has definitely cleaned up his act, though it is still hard for this New Yorker to forgive him for the Tawana Brawley stuff...

Regime change begins at the top!

"You go now! You been here 4 year! Insecurity boy, you make me poor!"

-With apologies to John Pinette (http://www.johnpinette.com/)I love a buffet! "Grab and move..." :D :D :D

Wheezer
Sep 8, 04, 10:45 pm
For those keeping score, the government's motion can be found here (http://209.123.170.170/gilmore/_dl/DOJexpartemotion.pdf).

detouring
Sep 9, 04, 2:26 am
...I'm so angry at Bush that I'd vote for Al Sharpton to replace him. :eek:....
Hahaha! :)



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