MilesBuzz! - Better than a mileage run for business owners?
selfdestrc
Dec 12, 00, 9:59 pm
I was just surfin around on aadvantage.com, which is the website for businesses that want to give away aadvantage miles. I tried out their online rate calculator and noticed that a business owner can purchase 75,000 miles in the form of 500 mile vouchers for $1,867, including processing fees and federal tax. So could a business owner in theory buy 75,000 miles for that amount and use them to pay for his own travel at some future time? Of course to break even, the businessman would have to redeem 3 roundtrips each of which would otherwise cost him >= $650, which isn't hard to find.
just wondering if this is even better than a mileage run for someone who owns a business.
ozstamps
Dec 12, 00, 11:15 pm
Here's a suggestion to take this interesting idea a step further. (Maybe post it on the AA board as you'll get even wider input!). HOW many points does AA need to fly you from say east coast USA to Australia in Business Class? Or to Asia? If it is close to 75,000 you are getting a $7000 type fare for $1800 is how I'd look on it! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif
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~ Glen ~
Sheryl
Dec 12, 00, 11:31 pm
What are the redemption rules and restrictions?
MukMuk
Dec 13, 00, 12:57 am
North America to Australia/NZ major capitals is 105,000 miles in Business Class on a
plan-ahead award.
tom911
Dec 13, 00, 2:35 am
And remember award availability may be varied. If you pick a route with high award demand, you could end up with miles that you may not be able to use. The farther out you can plan, the better chance of finding a routing of your choice (and a cheaper ticket that you might just be able to pay for). You do have some variables here that impact your planning.
Most of the airlines that sell miles in voucher books limit the number that can be added to the account of any one person, specifically to avoid having purchased miles redeeemed for awards this way.
I haven't looked at AA's program specifically, but I am reasonably certain you will find a disclaimer to this effect in it somewhere.
onedog
Dec 13, 00, 10:51 am
Originally posted by Brian:
Most of the airlines that sell miles in voucher books limit the number that can be added to the account of any one person, specifically to avoid having purchased miles redeeemed for awards this way.
I don't know what AA's policy is, but here is the policy from DL's vouchers:
No more than 50,000 miles from any one company can be credited to your SKymiles account in any calendar year..
If you are looking to redeem a 100,000 mile award, I guess you can just give yourself 50,000 miles at the end of one year (make sure they post before year end) and then give yourself 50,000 miles at the beginning of the next year?
Richard4009
Dec 13, 00, 10:57 am
Well if DL's policy is true, you better buy them before the end of this year. Wait a couple of weeks and buy them again. Viola 100K!
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selfdestrc
Dec 13, 00, 11:05 am
In case anyone's interested...I found this on Delta's site:
"Your company purchases SkyMiles in the form of vouchers worth either 500, 1,000 or 5,000 miles, giving you the flexibility to order different denominations and quantities. The minimum order is $1,200 (60,000 miles) plus a $75 administrative fee."
clanson
Dec 13, 00, 2:02 pm
Having purchased Aadvantage miles in quantity for business promotion, we ran into exactly this problem. We awarded 100,000 miles as a door prize at a trade show only to learn that AA will only allow 35,000 miles to be deposited in any one year.
Here's the blurb from aadvantage.com regarding how much an individual can be awarded:
In no event will Company a) distribute Miles to Employees for use in Company's business travel; or b) provide more than 35,000 Miles to an individual Employee, Customer or Donor during any 12-month period.
For 35000 miles (the max limit in a 12-mo period), the total cost is $862.75 (automated) or $871.50 (vouchers). This comes out to about 2.5 cents per mile.
Flying Dutchman
Dec 13, 00, 4:16 pm
All of the major airlines prohibit the use of purchased miles ("incentive miles") for business travel by the purchasing company.
If they catch you (and it should be fairly obvious what you're doing), they will void your purchased miles and possibly cancel your FF account. And they aren't bluffing.