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Kiwi Flyer
Jul 25, 04, 6:11 pm
This thread is out of date. Please refer to the new thread - 2009 edition (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-new-zealand-air-points/990044-airpoints-booking-class-earning-rates-2009-edition.html)

We have some info scattered in several threads. Would be nice to bring it together and get some kind of definitive list.

Here is a link to official Air NZ points earning chart (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/earningairpoints/airline_earn_chart.htm), but sadly doesnt give all details of relevant booking classes.

Status credits are based on distance and class (see official Air NZ status credits earning chart (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/airpointsstatus/how_earn_status_credits.htm)) and can only be earned on *A carriers. If Economy (full) is 1 credit for given distance, then generally Discounted Economy is 0.5, Business is 1.5, and First is about 2.5 (all ratios vary slightly by distance). No status credits (I presume) if the booking class is non mileage earning.

No points on award classes, and upgrades only earn points and status credits on the paid class.

Minimum mileage of 1,000 points per day are only applicable on NZ operated services.

*A booking codes thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314724)


Air New Zealand

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - LGSKE (incl Smart Saver), NR (travel industry)
Disc econ: 70% miles (Flexi Saver)
Econ: 100% miles (Fully Flexi)
Biz: 125% miles C D
First: 150% miles F A

Air Canada

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - ENT within Canada and US
Econ: 50% miles within Canada (except ENT)
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

ANA

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Econ: 50% miles within Japan unless in conjunction with international booking [does this mean must have intl segment or purchased outside Japan or ...?]
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Asiana

Deep discount: No miles or status credits W (from 1 Aug 2004)
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Austrian

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Disc econ (1): 50% miles WS (from 1 Sep 2004)
Disc econ (2): 70% miles M (from 1 Sep 2004)
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

BMI

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

LOT

Deep discount: No miles or status credits KL (from 1 Sep 2004)
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

Lufthansa

Deep discount: No miles or status credits LT (from 1 Sep 2004)
Disc econ (1): 50% miles WS (from 1 Sep 2004)
Disc econ (2): 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Mexicana
No status credits (since MX left *A)

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

SAS

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - all domestic flights in Norway and some domestic flights in Sweden.
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

Singapore

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - GNQVR including all other segments on the same ticket (ie one segment in GNQVR makes whole ticket non-points earning)
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Spanair

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - domestic Spain MHQSVLTWKG
Disc econ: 50% miles - to Europe (excl Scandanavia) QVWKG), to Scandanavia QVWKGT
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles <none>

Thai

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - between NZ and Australia QVWSTK
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

United

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 100% miles Z
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

US Airways

Deep discount: No miles or status credits G
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Varig

Deep discount: No miles or status credits
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Biz: 125% miles
First: 150% miles

Virgin Atlantic
No status credits as VS not part of *A

Deep discount: No miles or status credits - N except certain routes
Disc econ: 70% miles
Econ: 100% miles
Premium Economy: 125% miles
Upper Class: 150% miles

Work in progress


This is an example I used to have (from 2002) and it is no longer current but gives and idea.

Lufthansa:

70% H, B,G,L,T,Y,W
100% Y
125% C,D
150% F

Scandinavian Airlines:

70% B,G,H,K,M,O,Q,T,V,W
100% M,Y
125% A,C,D,J

United:

70% B,H,L,M,Q,V
100% Y
125% C,D
150% A,F,P

Air Canada:

50% Within Canada Only B,E,G,H,I,K,L,N,Q,R,U,V,X,Z 70% B,E,G,H,I,K,L,N,Q,R,U,V,X,Z 100% M,S,Y 125% C,J

Austrian Airlines / Lauda Air / Tyrolean

70% B,G,H,K,L,M,V,S,T,Q*,W*
100% Y
125% C,D,J
150%** F, A**

* W and Q class valid for NG only
** F and A class valid for NH only

BMI

70% B,H,M,Q,V,W,Y,S,K,G
100% U,L
125% C,D,J


The rule of thumb I have is that it is basically only the most flexible /Y/ fare that counts, irrespective of what the other airline or logic may consider. They base this on what UA or whomever are willing to pay - this aspect has been discussed many times here.

Also NZ will often be incorrect. I flew for a long time on H fares with LH when I found out that they had incorrectly listed /H/ as being full fare

Also I am not sure if they include /S/ class with SAS now which is significantly higher fare class than /M/.

At the end of the day the most accurate response is to email AirPoints rather than speculate and they will respond in less than 24 hours in most cases.

Mark


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Fliar
Jul 25, 04, 11:16 pm
Great idea to bring this all together - once enough people submit booking classes it should be made a sticky imo. Would it be an idea to add information about Status Credits earned as well, e.g. on NZ discount economy earns 70% of kms flown but reduced status credits depending on distance/destination, down to 50%?

Also maybe you could add the various fare types (e.g. Tasman express, super saver) that don't earn miles/status on NZ?

taupo
Jul 26, 04, 11:10 am
AC domestic J earns 150% with COS bonus. C earns 125% on domestic with COS. Note that domestic C is either a booked revenue class or an ecnonmy ticket that has been upgraded. You earn 25% COS with the upgraded as well as with a purchased C fare.

Their is a sticky on the AC forum with all the fare codes.


Kiwi Flyer
Jul 28, 04, 7:53 pm
Need to update for the revamped Airpoints (effective 16 Nov 2004). Looks like the treatment of booking classes (ie whether deep discount, disc econ, econ, biz, first) isnt affected - although the devil is in the detail. However the airbucks (airpoints dollars) earned and status earning rates and relativities are changed.

Kiwi Flyer
Jul 29, 04, 5:58 pm
Quick summary of relativities of earning airbucks (ie from 16 Nov 04) and status for the different fare categories.

Disc econ around 60% of full economy, biz around 200% (varies a lot by route and whether NZ or *A/mixed itin), first around 400% (also varies a lot).

Obviously these are generalisations as there are some which are substantially better/worse than this.

Kiwi Flyer
Aug 11, 04, 10:20 pm
Changes for Lufthansa and Austrian from 1 August - non-mileage earning and new category of discount econ @ 50%.

Kiwi Flyer
Sep 9, 04, 1:51 pm
LH & OS changes now effective 1 Sep instead of 1 Aug. Similar changes for LO effective 1 Sep.

Kiwi Flyer
Nov 20, 04, 2:05 pm
Updated for changes to Airpoints and also non-earning classes mentioned in new t&cs.


Here is a link to official Air NZ airbucks earning chart (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/star_earn_accrual.htm), but sadly doesnt give all details of relevant booking classes. More info is found buried in the Air NZ airbucks t&c (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints_tc.htm#earning).

Airbucks are based on routing, distance and class. Only airbucks earned on Air NZ and *A count toward status. (See here (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/frequent_flyer_benefits/default.htm) for more details.) There is not a simple ratio between earning for disc economy, economy, business and first - however there is a much bigger difference in earning than previously (0.7, 1.0, 1.25, 1.5)

No points on award classes, and upgrades only earn airbucks on the paid class.

Earning on wholly NZ flown and operated itineraries is higher.

*A booking codes thread (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314724)


Air New Zealand
chart for itineraries fully on NZ (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/earning_airpoints_dollars/airnz_earn_accrual.htm)

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - LGSKE (incl Smart Saver), NR (travel industry), IOX. Note that LGSKE do count towards flying on NZ paid tix for purpose of waiver of annual fee.
Disc econ: QVWT (Flexi Saver)
Econ: YBMH (Fully Flexi)
Biz: CD
First: FA

Air Canada

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - EGINRT within Canada and Canada-US except Hawaii, ZDWX (except X for YYZ-DEL is earning), A (except within Canada and Canada-US is earning)
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

ANA

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - INORXKVE
Econ: within Japan unless in conjunction with international booking [does this mean must have intl segment or purchased outside Japan or ...?]
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First:

Asiana

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - RNGOIXWL
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First:

Austrian

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - RIKLTPENX
Disc econ: WSM
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

BMI

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - RGXIZ
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

LOT

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - IRPNUEKTXL
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

Lufthansa

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - OIRXNELT
Disc econ: WS
Econ:
Biz:
First:

Mexicana
Only airbucks for awards, not status (since MX left *A)

Deep discount and award : No airbucks -
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

SAS and Blue1

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - all domestic flights in Norway and some domestic flights in Sweden, also on other sectors WUKLTG.
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

Singapore

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - GINOQTVX including all other segments on the same ticket (ie one segment in GNQTV makes whole ticket non-points earning)
Disc econ: all other economy fare classes
Econ: <none> - earning is either none or at discount economy level
Biz: CDZ
First: FA

Spanair

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - domestic Spain MHXSQVLTWKGNIR, all other sectors XNIR
Disc econ: to Europe (excl Scandanavia) QVWKG, to Scandanavia QVWKGT
Econ:
Biz:
First: <none>

Thai

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - between NZ and Australia QVWSTKEINORX, all other sectors EINORX (& WV from 1 June 2005)
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First:

United

Deep discount and award: No airbucks -
Disc econ:
Econ: Z (discounted biz earn at econ rate)
Biz:
First:

US Airways

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - GPERXIO
Disc econ:
Econ:
Biz:
First:

Varig

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - OPJIRTGXNS
Disc econ:
Econ: Z (discounted biz earn at econ rate)
Biz:
First:

Virgin Atlantic
Only airbucks for awards, not status (as VS not part of *A)

Deep discount and award: No airbucks - N except certain routes
Disc econ:
Econ:
Premium Economy: earns as biz
Upper Class: earns as first

Work in progress


This is an example I used to have (from 2002) and it is no longer current but gives and idea.

Lufthansa:

70% H, B,G,L,T,Y,W
100% Y
125% C,D
150% F

Scandinavian Airlines:

70% B,G,H,K,M,O,Q,T,V,W
100% M,Y
125% A,C,D,J

United:

70% B,H,L,M,Q,V
100% Y
125% C,D
150% A,F,P

Air Canada:

50% Within Canada Only B,E,G,H,I,K,L,N,Q,R,U,V,X,Z 70% B,E,G,H,I,K,L,N,Q,R,U,V,X,Z 100% M,S,Y 125% C,J

Austrian Airlines / Lauda Air / Tyrolean

70% B,G,H,K,L,M,V,S,T,Q*,W*
100% Y
125% C,D,J
150%** F, A**

* W and Q class valid for NG only
** F and A class valid for NH only

BMI

70% B,H,M,Q,V,W,Y,S,K,G
100% U,L
125% C,D,J


The rule of thumb I have is that it is basically only the most flexible /Y/ fare that counts, irrespective of what the other airline or logic may consider. They base this on what UA or whomever are willing to pay - this aspect has been discussed many times here.

Also NZ will often be incorrect. I flew for a long time on H fares with LH when I found out that they had incorrectly listed /H/ as being full fare

Also I am not sure if they include /S/ class with SAS now which is significantly higher fare class than /M/.

At the end of the day the most accurate response is to email AirPoints rather than speculate and they will respond in less than 24 hours in most cases.

Mark

Kiwi Flyer
Nov 28, 04, 12:09 am
From 1 Dec 04 GIR on Air Canada for flights within Canada or between Canada and US are non-earning.

Kiwi Flyer
Jan 5, 05, 11:40 am
From 1 Dec 04 T was added to the non-earning classes for SQ.

Kiwi Flyer
Mar 9, 05, 11:34 am
Will need updating for NZ's new long haul product. Airnzboy has kindly listed the booking codes here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=408701).

Kiwi Flyer
Mar 17, 05, 8:35 pm
TG W&V fares become non-earning for all routes from 1 June 2005.

Kiwi Flyer
Jan 16, 06, 7:11 pm
Changes to earning on BD from 1 January 2006

No airbucks for international flights booked in G
No airbucks for "tiny" fares (see the BD forum - these arent all so tiny)
No airbucks for domestic and intra-europe flights booked in QVGOW

Xiaotung
Jan 17, 06, 3:04 am
V, W classes on TG resume to earn Airpoints Dollars effective Jan 1, 2006.

Since TG no more operate between Australia and New Zealand, I guess NZ can now drop the non-earning condition for the discount economy.

Xiaotung
Jan 17, 06, 3:15 am
Any info on South African Airways? I did see Airpoints post them in the T&C once but were removed now.

Kiwi Flyer
Jan 17, 06, 12:15 pm
SAA is listed on the Airpoints news page (http://www.airnz.co.nz/airpoints/airpoints_news/default.htm) but no detail on earning rate for specific fare codes.

You are right they are not listed in section 1.3 of airpoints t&cs that are currently online. Have you rung up/emailed and asked them?

Xiaotung
Jan 17, 06, 11:42 pm
You are right they are not listed in section 1.3 of airpoints t&cs that are currently online. Have you rung up/emailed and asked them?

Airpoints did post the non-earning classes in section 1.3 when they first introduced SAA into the program last year. I don't know why they removed them.

Kiwi Flyer
Jan 18, 06, 12:47 pm
Someone loaded the wrong version onto the website?

Xiaotung
Jan 19, 06, 3:49 am
Someone loaded the wrong version onto the website?

If it is a wrong version, it still gets updated though.

This is new. Business Class on all ANA domectic flights within Japan will only earn Airpoints at Discount Economy level. ie. 15 Airbucks per flight.

clifford
Jan 21, 06, 3:27 am
Hey Kiwi,

Can you tell me why (how?) the NZ FF scheme is still operating. I would imagine that most Y pax would not qualify for any points (that's why I fly QF across the pond), so wouldn't the intelligent ones just fly another airline, hence losing NZ business?

Don't think I would ever fly paid NZ again in any sort of economy class.

PS. I'll be in CMB by the time you see this.

:)

Xiaotung
Jan 21, 06, 6:21 am
True, Airpoints has zero value for low fare payers. Operating in one of the most competitive routes in the world, I think what Air New Zealand do is understandable. But in reality it could be hurting the airlines especially when low cost carriers like Virgin Blue are introducing its own FFP. Air New Zealand simply can't be a low cost carrier and a network carrier all at the same time. It looks like Air New Zealand are slower at realizing/reacting to this fact than other carriers.

Kiwi Flyer
Jan 21, 06, 2:03 pm
I think most not qualifying for points is a bit of a stretch. It is only the cheapest fare categories that dont qualify.

That said, yes there is a large number of passengers not getting points by flying, but they may still be collecting off credit card or fly buys or whatever.

Qantas really doesnt promote the fact all fares get 1000 points. If they did then maybe they would get more pax? OTOH QF is often not the cheapest trans-tasman.

Since the revamps, airpoints is really geared towards NZ's most profitable passengers; with as little benefits as possible for those less profitable. Seems to be the way that FFPs are going, with the exception of US-based ones.

ajnz
Apr 29, 06, 2:18 am
Changes to earning on BD from 1 January 2006

No airbucks for international flights booked in G
No airbucks for "tiny" fares (see the BD forum - these arent all so tiny)
No airbucks for domestic and intra-europe flights booked in QVGOW
Have there been any changes to this? While looking at BMI's site I noticed that the tiny fares earn 25% FF miles, does this only apply to BMI's FF scheme, or to partners as well?

I'm looking at using BMI/Austrian/Croatian while I'm in LHR for some reasonably competitively priced flights, but want to make sure they earn towards AP as well, otherwise there are cheaper alternatives.

Xiaotung
Apr 29, 06, 8:22 am
It took Airpoints more than 3 months to realize that V, W classes resumed earning on THAI. I would suggest you contact NZ and ask them to confirm with bmi.

igel
Jul 3, 06, 1:09 am
It took Airpoints more than 3 months to realize that V, W classes resumed earning on THAI. I would suggest you contact NZ and ask them to confirm with bmi.

Are TG V,W classes definitely accruable on the NZ APs scheme again?
These classes are no longer listed online on the AP T and C website as non-accruable. However, in the pack that I received with my new AP Gold card, V/W classes on TG were still listed as non-accruable. I am confused :confused:

Kiwi Flyer
Jul 3, 06, 1:14 am
Congrats on attaining NZ*G. What date is printed on the back of the booklet? Could be quite old as I seem to recall they only change about once a year. If in doubt I'd rely on the website as that will be more up to date and changes made there are deemed to have informed members of new or amended rules :rolleyes:

igel
Jul 3, 06, 1:21 am
Thanks Kiwi Flyer. The date on the back cover of the booklet is March 2006! Maybe someone forgot to edit the changes to the T and C in the booklet.

Xiaotung
Jul 3, 06, 1:52 am
Just did an AKL-BKK return trip on TG booking class V in June. No problem with earning Airpoints at discount economy level. 60 Airbucks each way. But this will soon change to only 35 Airbucks when the new partner earning rate takes effect.

igel
Jul 3, 06, 10:56 pm
Thanks Xiaotung for the reassurance. May I know how long it took for the TG flights to post to AP? I also wonder if your AP# begins with 0. Mine does and sometimes on other Star flights eg on OS, having the 0 in front when I gave the number to OS often means that I have to manually follow up with boarding passes etc. If your AP# starts with a 0, did you include the 0 when you gave the number to TG reservations and check-in? I found that by not including the 0 eg on car rentals and other airlines, the points post correctly.

I have not seen the new Star partner earnings chart yet. Anyway, I normally avoid travelling on SQ out og SIN, so on my flights ex-SIN on other Star airlines such as TG, these would often involve additional sectors compared to the SQ nonstops ex-SIN.

Xiaotung
Jul 4, 06, 1:04 am
In my case TG flights posted within 2 days after departure in both directions. I only presented my Airpoints card to the check-in agents so I assume they did include the 0. I think the 0 does not really matter as Airpoints system can identify this automatically.

New partner earning chart has been published in the new Koru Review. NZ-Asia sector has been ridicularsly reduced. And yes, flying non-stop would earn you a lot less Airpoints. That's probably why Air NZ wanted to change the partner earning rate which seemingly forces Airpoints members to board Air NZ flights but they didn't think of members leaving Airpoints program altogether.



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