US Airways Dividend Miles (Pre-FlightFund Merger) - T Fare to FL not Upgradeable?

This was in the terms:
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED: BY US ISSUE IN UWT NOTE: MUST BE TICKETED BY US AIRWAYS OR SABRE/GALILEO/ APOLLO/WORLDSPAN/AMADEUS AGENCY ONLY. PASSENGER MUST BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUANCE THAT DIV MILES UPGRADES DO NOT APPLY.

Does this mean that I will not get the complementary upgrade? (I am a GP).

Thanks.

M

This was in the terms:
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED: BY US ISSUE IN UWT NOTE: MUST BE TICKETED BY US AIRWAYS OR SABRE/GALILEO/ APOLLO/WORLDSPAN/AMADEUS AGENCY ONLY. PASSENGER MUST BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUANCE THAT DIV MILES UPGRADES DO NOT APPLY.

Does this mean that I will not get the complementary upgrade? (I am a GP).

Thanks.

M

I'd call. The language (to me, anyway) suggests that the US20 upgrade does not apply.

Well, according to the following web page T fares are upgradeable. Perhaps that text means mile upgrades by non-Preferred members? :confused:

http://www.usairways.com/dividendmiles/2004_preferred_upgrades.htm

What are the city pairs and what is the full fare basis? I checked several cheap T fares to FL and couldn't find that language. It doesn't seem to match what they have said about upgrades in the past.

The City Pairs are BOS-FLL...during September.

Language is under Ticket Restrictions, I believe.

The fare basis ($98) is TR14

M

Check the actual flights. I was looking at some of those $98 fares myself from PHL to FLL. The flights at that fare required me to connect to DCA on Ted. So obviously, there will be no upgrades available there. Maybe it's the same in your situation.

Check the actual flights. I was looking at some of those $98 fares myself from PHL to FLL. The flights at that fare required me to connect to DCA on Ted. So obviously, there will be no upgrades available there. Maybe it's the same in your situation.

Nope. No Ted involved in the BOS-FLL itin. Would have been a deal killer for me.

All US metal...lots of options through PIT, DCA (shuttle), CLT or PHL.

I am going to South Beach and would ordinarily go to MIA, but the lowest fare there is about $200, so it makes sense to take the discounted flight to FLL.

I just ug'd on a T fare, but not to FL. If that helps.

Fare details for TR14BSSN
ECONOMY CLASS INSTANT PURCH SPECIAL FARE
BK CODE
T -
PENALTY
CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - I. BEFORE DEPARTURE - IF THE RESERVATION IS CANCELED ON/BEFORE TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE / THE VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL / NONREFUNDABLE TICKET MINUS US AIRWAYS ADMINISTRATION FEE WHICH WILL BE DEDUCTED AT THE TIME THE ITINERARY IS CANCELLED / MAY BE APPLIED WITHIN ONE YEAR FROM ORIGINAL DATE OF ISSUE FOR FUTURE TRAVEL ON US AIRWAYS WHEN PURCHASING A NEW TICKET ON ANOTHER US AIRWAYS FLIGHT. ANY SUCH FUTURE TRAVEL TICKET IS A SEPARATE TICKET PURCHASE / AND IS NOT A CONTINUATION / EXTENSION OR SUBSTITUTION OF THE UNUSED TICKET. SUCH ORIGINAL / NONREFUND ABLE TICKETS HAVE NO CASH VALUE / NO OTHER TRADE IN OR EXCHANGE VALUE / AND MAY NOT BE TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER PERSON. US AIRWAYS MAY IN ITS DISCRETION DETERMINE THE AMOUNT OF THE ADMINISTRATION FEE WHICH SHALL BE NOT LESS THAN USD 100.00 AND MAY IMPOSE OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS THEREON. B. AFTER DEPARTURE IF ANY PART OF THE TICKET IS UNUSED AFTER TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE IT HAS NO VALUE. II. FARES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND ARE NOT GUARANTEED UNTIL A TICKET IS PURCHASED. III.CUSTOMER COMMITMENT PSGR MAY CANCEL A TKT PURCHASED WITHOUT PENALTY WITHIN 24 HOURS OF MAKING INITIAL RESERVATION. CHANGES CHARGE USD 100.00 FOR REISSUE. NOTE - I. BEFORE DEPARTURE -- ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED UP TO ONE YEAR FROM DATE OF ISSUE PROVIDED PSGR CANCELS THE TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION ON/BEFORE TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE. IF TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION IS NOT CANCELLED ON/BEFORE TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND THE TICKET HAS NO VALUE. --- CHANGES TO ORIGINATING FLIGHT ON THE TICKET - THE ENTIRE TICKET MUST BE REPRICED WITH CURRENT NONREFUNDABLE FARES. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW NONREFUNDABLE FARE I.E. ADV RSVN/MIN/MAX STAY ETC MUST BE MET. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS ANY FEES MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA US ONLY. THESE FARES MAY NOT BE UPGRADED TO A REFUNDABLE FARE TYPE. -- II. BEFORE DEPARTURE -- CHANGES TO CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN / DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. --- A.CHANGES MAY BE MADE WITHOUT REGARD TO THE ADVANCE RSVN PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER FARE RULES. --- B.WHEN THE CHANGE VIOLATES THE TICKETED FARE RULES THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE LOWEST SOLUTION WILL APPLY. B1.REPRICE THE CHANGED CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS WITH A COMBINABLE NONREFUNDABLE CURRENT FARE. CURRENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKETED FARE VALUE FOR THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. ALL FARE RULES OF BOTH THE RETAINED FARE OF THE UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENT AND THE NEW FARE OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT MUST BE MET. THE ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN REISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. --- B2.THE ENTIRE TICKET MAY BE REPRICED USING CURRENT NONREFUNDABLE FARES. ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL ISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS ANY FEES MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA US ONLY. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. --- III.BEFORE DEPARTURE-CHANGES TO CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. --- A. THE ENTIRE TICKET SHOULD BE REPRICED WITH CURRENT NONREFUNDBALE FARES. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES SHOULD BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS ANY FEES MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA US ONLY. ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE REISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. WHEN A NONREFUNDABLE FARE CANNOT BE FOUND/ THE PASSENGER MUST PURCHASE A NEW REFUNDABLE FARE TICKET. --- IV. AFTER DEPARTURE-IF TICKETED FLIGHT RESERVATION IS NOT CHANGED ON/BEFORE TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE REBOOKING IS NOT PERMITTED AND THE TICKET HAS NO VALUE. -- AFTER DEPARTURE--WHEN THERE IS NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. A. CHANGES MAY BE MADE ON/BEFORE TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE OF EACH FLIGHT FOR ANY FEES WITHOUT REGARD TO ADVANCE RSVN PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER FARE RULES. --- B. WHEN THE CHANGE VIOLATES THE TICKETED FARE RULES THE FOLLOWING OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE AND THE LOWEST SOLUTION WILL APPLY. --- B1.REPRICE THE CHANGED CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS WITH A COMBINABLE NONREFUNDABLE CURRENT FARE. CURRENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL TICKETED FARE VALUE FOR THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. ALL FARE RULES OF BOTH THE RETAINED FARE OF THE UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENT AND THE NEW FARE OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT MUST BE MET. THE ADVANCE PURCHASE IS MEASURED BETWEEN THE REISSUE DATE AND THE DEPARTURE DATE OF THE PRICEABLE UNIT. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. B2.PRICE THE FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL ONE WAY FARES. PRICE THE UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING ONE WAY CURRENT FARES. COMPARE THE TOTAL FROM THE ORIGINAL TICKET TO THE NEW TOTAL OF THE FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS ANY FEES MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDBALE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA US ONLY. --- V. AFTER DEPARTURE- CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS WHEN THERE IS A CHANGE TO ORIGIN/ DESTINATION OR STOPOVERS. -- A. PRICE THE FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL ONE WAY FARES. PRICE THE UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS USING ONE WAY CURRENT FARES. COMPARE THE TOTAL FROM THE ORIGINAL TICKET TO THE NEW TOTAL OF THE FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES PLUS ANY FEES MUST BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES LESS ANY FEES MAY BE RETURNED IN THE FORM OF A NONREFUNDBALE TRAVEL VOUCHER VALID FOR TRAVEL VIA US ONLY. --- VI.IF THE TICKET BEING EXCHANGED COMBINES MORE THAN ONE FARE TYPE THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULES APPLY TO THE ENTIRE TICKET. --- VII.THE TICKET MUST BE REISSUED-ALL FEES AND ANY ADDITIONAL FARE MUST BE PAID AT TIME OF CHANGE --- VIII.STANDBY- STANDBY ON TICKETED DAYS OF TRAVEL IS PERMITTED FOR A USD 25.00 NONREFUNDABLE FEE. ALL FARE RULES OF TICKETED FARE MUST BE MET INCLUDING FLIGHT AND TIME SPECIFIC PROVISIONS. ---IX. AFTER EACH TICKETED DEPARTURE DATE- NO CHANGES PERMITTED - TICKET HAS NO VALUE AND STANDBY IS NOT PERMITTED.
RES/TKTG
RES MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN 14 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN. TKT MUST BE PURCHASED NO LATER THAN 14 DAYS BEFORE DPTR FROM ORIGIN OR 1 DAY AFTER RES IS MADE, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. SGMTS USING THIS RULE MUST BE CONFIRMED.
SEASONS
NO SEASON RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
BLACKOUTS
TRAVEL IS NOT VALID 23-29NOV04.
EFF/EXP
7SEP04 IS THE FIRST DATE THAT TRAVEL MAY COMMENCE. RETURN TRAVEL AT THIS FARE MUST COMMENCE BY 15DEC04. BASED ON TRIP DATE RATHER THAN DATE OF ORIGIN.
FLT APPL
NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
STOPOVERS
NO ENROUTE STOPOVERS PERMITTED. A STOPOVER OCCURS WHEN THE PASSENGER DOES NOT DEPART AN INTERMEDIATE POINT WITHIN 4 HOURS.
TICKET RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED: BY US ISSUE IN UWT NOTE: MUST BE TICKETED BY US AIRWAYS OR SABRE/GALILEO/ APOLLO/WORLDSPAN/AMADEUS AGENCY ONLY. PASSENGER MUST BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUANCE THAT DIV MILES UPGRADES DO NOT APPLY.
DISCOUNTS
50 PCT OF THE ADT FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INS PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE. INS PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. - - - - NO FARE IS CHARGED FOR AN INF PSGR UNDER 2 YRS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. INF PSGR MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SGMTS BY AN ADT PSGR TRAVELING IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT. *** SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNTS DO NOT APPLY. CHILDRENS DISCOUNTS - 8000 IN DGR APPLIES. NO OTHER DISCOUNT/ GOLDFILE/ COUPON/ PROMOTION PERMITTED.
REROUTE
SEE PENALTY.
TRANSFERS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS AS PERMITTED ON THE ROUTING.
COMBINATIONS
CARRIER / RULE / FARE CIRCLE OPEN ROUND BASIS TRIP JAW TRIP SAME / SAME / SAME C C Y SAME / SAME / DIFF C C - SAME / DIFF / SAME C C - SAME / DIFF / DIFF C C - DIFF / SAME / SAME N N - DIFF / SAME / DIFF N N - DIFF / DIFF / SAME N N - DIFF / DIFF / DIFF N N - Y / PERMITTED N / NOT PERMITTED - / DOES NOT APPLY C / SEE TEXT FOR CONDITIONS CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO CIRCLE TRIP/SINGLE OPEN JAW - -ALL TRAVEL MUST BE ENTIRELY VIA US. -MAY BE COMBINED WITH ANY ONE WAY/ROUND TRIP FARE GOVERNED BY ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF . -MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY. NOTE: NOTE 1- FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE MAY BE COMBINED WITH ONE-WAY/ROUND TRIP LOCAL/JOINT US FARES GOVERNED BY ANY DFR/CPR RULE PERMITTING SUCH COMBINATIONS TO FORM A ROUND/CIRCLE/SINGLE OPEN-JAW TRIP. NOTE 2- WHEN COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH A ROUND TRIP FARE TO FORM ROUND/CIRCLE/ OPEN-JAW TRIPS--THE MOST RESTRICTIVE PROVISIONS APPLY. THESE INCLUDE MIN/MAX STAY- RESERVATIONS/TICKET REQUIREMENTS -STOPOVER PROVISIONS--CANCEL/CHANGE PENALTIES/SERVICE CHARGES OR COMBINATION PROVISIONS. ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS APPLY CIRCLE TRIP - -PERMITTED. -MAXIMUM OF 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED. OPEN JAW - -SINGLE OPEN JAW PERMITTED AT EITHER ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. -THE MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN SECTOR MUST BE EQUAL TO/GREATER THAN THE MILEAGE BETWEEN THE POINTS OF THE OPEN JAW. -MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. -THE TWO POINTS OF AN OPEN JAW COUNT AS TWO STOPOVERS. END-ON-END - -PERMITTED WITH ALL US FARES. -MULTIPLE ROUND TRIP FARES BETWEEN THE SAME TWO POINTS MAY NOT BE COMBINED OUT OF SEQUENCE ON THE SAME TICKET TO AVOID MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS. -CONDITIONS APPLY TO ALL FARE COMPONENTS OF THE JOURNEY. -TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE FARE COMBINATION POINT. CO-TERMINALS - -THE FOLLOWING GROUPS OF CITIES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE SAME POINT EWR - HPN - NYC - ISP, LAX - ONT - SNA, OAK - SFO - SJC, BED - BOS, BWI - WAS, FLL - MIA, ORF - PHF.
OPEN RTN
NOT ALLOWED.
REFUNDS
SEE PENALTY.
CO-TERMINALS
-THE FOLLOWING GROUPS OF CITIES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE THE SAME POINT EWR - HPN - NYC - ISP, LAX - ONT - SNA, OAK - SFO - SJC, BED - BOS, BWI - WAS, FLL - MIA, ORF - PHF.

This was in the terms:
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED: BY US ISSUE IN UWT NOTE: MUST BE TICKETED BY US AIRWAYS OR SABRE/GALILEO/ APOLLO/WORLDSPAN/AMADEUS AGENCY ONLY. PASSENGER MUST BE NOTIFIED PRIOR TO TICKET ISSUANCE THAT DIV MILES UPGRADES DO NOT APPLY.

Does this mean that I will not get the complementary upgrade? (I am a GP).

Thanks.

M

Score-

My interpretation of the above legalese is that your complimentary upgrades are allowed, but you wouldn't be able to upgrade using Dividend Miles.

E-upgrades from the T booking class are processed at the 3-day window for GPs according to http://www.usairways.com/dividendmiles/programinfo/eupgrades.htm

For whatever reason, your T booking class doesn't allow upgrades using Dividend Miles, though you are allowed according to the listing of Dividend Mile Upgrade Awards at http://www.usairways.com/dividendmiles/redeemingmiles/howtoredeem/upgrades.htm

I called US on this upgrade topic:
Call 1 - Cannot upgrade
Call 2 - (From a CR who seemed a bit more willing to help) Said that as a GP, my normal upgrade procedure (read: free 72 hours out) would work fine.

With the fare being so low and the flights wide open for seating, I'll take my chances with the upgrade. At this price, the exit row certainly wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Thanks all.