MilesBuzz! - WHICH AIRLINES ALLOW A COMPANY TO KEEP THE MILES

I'm affiliated with a non-profit org., we fly 100's of people overseas every year at our expense. What I want to do is to use an airline that'll let us bank the miles so we can use them to fly others over.
So if anyone out there knows of an airline that will us to do this please respond.Again,the passengers don't pay 1 cent for their tickets and its not a business trip,so I feel that the org.,is entitled to the miles. If you disagree thats fine but I'm not looking for views on the subject.
THANKS in advance

FWIW, you may recall:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/002916.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/001775.html

I believe they all will. My company just reversed their policy as of Sept 1. They did keep the miles by establishing a company frequent flyer account for all travelers with the corporate office as the address. Thus I am in the process of consolidating the accouts now. The reason they stopped accumulating the miles was due to the difficulty in booking full fare tickets that are required for corporate travel. They had been saving about a million dollars a year on the frequent flyer miles. I am glad they changed the policy, but it was their decision to make. I now enjoy the fringe benifits.

LH USA offers a corporate mileage plan that allows the company and the employees to earn miles with the same flights. Details can be found here: http://www.lufthansa-usa.com/corporate_customers/cmp.html

Cheers

Mizu

As far as I know, US Airways has a similar program, too.

Check out http://www.usairways.com/corpdiv/index.htm
for more information.

As a non-profit organization, I think it may be difficult to keep the flyers from changing the ff # from the "corporate" number to their own number, Employers have corporate policy and the fear of dismissal if they change the ff recipient on their reservation.

I don't know what type of organization you have but as a non-profit, I assume you have no such control, and possibly these flyers even feel they are donating their time to your organization and appreciate the added bonus of miles. If you approach the flyers and the policy as an additional donation you may have a better chance at compliance than if you approach it in the same snotty way you posed this question.

Leisuremiles,

I reread craz's request and found nothing "snotty" about the way he phrased it. You're new to the board, so I feel we should cut you some slack. There's no need to start a flaming war over this, but if you disagree with the language of a post, a simple e-mail to the poster often clears up any misunderstanding.

Yep! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Sure enough, you are right! I did a SEARCH, putting in "snooty" and this thread did NOT appear! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

That's are search engine for you! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

BTW- OMNI - Tribeflyer - Guess you are not pulling for the Yanks tonight! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Well, the request was phrased something like this:

"I have a question. Here's a rather controversial opinion. Don't tell me your opinion, just answer my question."

Kinda oversimplified, but that's how it read. I have elected to keep quiet on requested and non-requested information...

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Time..... is on my side.

I don't pay 1 cent either but value the chance to ingratiate myself with my family for the time I spend apart. Your request was not at all snotty in my eyes but hey that's just pompous me!. I believe Sabena or Qualiflyer run a scheme in Europe that double counts for both the individual and the company / NPO with a rebate at the end of the year. Not sure that helps on your side of the pond.

http://www.britishairways.com/ventureclub/welcome.shtml

BA's Venture Club might be a nice compromise... both the flyer and the company get credits. Haven't done this first hand, so I can't comment on how good a deal it is.

Originally posted by TribeFlyer:
Leisuremiles,

I reread craz's request and found nothing "snotty" about the way he phrased it. You're new to the board, so I feel we should cut you some slack.

TribeFlyer,

I love the way you've appointed yourself a spokesperson for the entire board. And it was so gracious of you to decide that "we should cut Leisuremiles some slack." As if it's up to you to determine things like that.

As someone who has read many of Crazs' messages, often times he is quite snotty (not "snooty", Doc)and I felt his question above also carried that snotty tone at the end.

Thanks for playing judge and jury, though.

Craz: I understand Virgin Atlantic offer an individual + corporate facility, though I haven't tried it.

Doc: have you tried 'snotty' in the search engine (instead of 'snooty')?

(Edited for grammar)

[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 10-11-2000).]

Please address the intent of the question.

Correctly stated by SuperCat that all programs will allow companies to "own" the miles, though most companies struggle with the process since most accounts are "spoiled" these days with a mixture of personal and business miles. I have done major work on this issues for quite a few years and can help draw a strong argument either way. If you'd like to scare the management, I can provide you with an interesting court case in which a frequent flyer successfully sued the company who started to require employees to turn over their miles and I can also provide you with the legal basis on how an organization can successfully "own" employee miles. The real answer is that all domestic airlines won't help any company "manage" their miles.

Looking forward to more dialog on the orginal question only.

Very well put Randy! Thanks for the info on the court cases..I may be calling you for details.

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MRKEY

Everyone! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

It was just my somewhat frail attempt to be humourous and to possibly inject a more light hearted and hopefully constructive tone to the thread! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Sorry! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

I apologize if anyone miss understood my intent! Since unfortunatly wars have broken out on these boards over differences of opinion if something is ok or not,I tried to steer clear of the possibility of that occuring. Since many of our members might work for a company that doesn't allow them to keep the miles,I tried to stear clear of such a discussion if it should be allowed or not.
I therefore allow each and everyone to post as they desire,and I REFUSE to answer any posts that wish to attack my comments or support them,I have no ill will against anyone who has responded to my question and maybe due to my ill choice of the proper words,gave the wrong impression. May I ask everyone PLEASE do not place a post in favor of me or against me that was not the reason for the question,otherwise I could have asked for everyones feelings if we should do it or not. Again there is no way to prevent anyone from expressing their feelings but IMHO that will be great if done on another thread,call it the BASHING of CRAZ.
One point of clarification,the people for whom the tickets are purchased ARE NOT PAID OR UNPAID EMPLOYEES(sorry for CAPS just wanted to make sure its seen)they are students who will/are going overseas for an educational learning experience with all costs beared by my org. .That includes flights,housing, food,tours etc. By retaining the miles it will allow us to send X more people per year,since we are budgeted as many orgs and companies are. Sorry for not spelling this out at the onset,I thought I left that impression. Unfortunatly, this is a non solicted student deal,that is private and not open to the general public,so if a person isn't contacted by us there's no way for them to beable to particapate.
Once again,I AM DEEPLY SORRY FOR ANY WRONG IMPRESSIONS THAT I MAY HAVE CAUSED and FOR NOT BEING CLEARER. Thanks again,to ALL who have posted responses.
CRAZ

craz,

Thanks for clarifying. My one comment is that this is a topic that is so close to home with much of the flyers on here. I know the miles and status really help me make the trips more bearable.. (especially since it keeps me from my lovely wife).

Also, United and American, both offer smaller programs that give free flights, gold status, etc... for the members of an organization based on usage. Just some information. I can see how you want to keep those miles to make the organization able to support more students. Good luck!

I certainly did not wish to start a "flaming war" with my earlier post. I support many non-profits and serve as director of a friend's foundation so I can certainly empathize with Craz's situation.

My new advise in light of the clarification is to plan a lunch with your travel agent and their airline sales reps (for the appropriate airline(s) and destinations your student's fly) and determine a plan of action. I'm sure you can work out a plan to benefit everyone.

At the lunch, I would also hit up the airline sales rep for some additional freebies, this is SOP for corporations and if you can show a certain amount of revenue, they should come up with something (do you send org. reps overseas?)go into the meeting with your orgs. flight history (even or especially if on other airlines) and specific requests-chances are they can write this stuff off and might be happy with the goodwill fostered by a big thank you to your airline "partner" in a newsletter.