Asia - Tourist with British passport found slain near China's Great Wall




raffy
Oct 10, 02, 12:30 pm
(10-10) 09:45 PDT BADALING, China (AP) --

The government confirmed Thursday that a tourist carrying a British passport was found slain near a popular section of the Great Wall, the apparent victim of an attack that could undermine China's reputation as a safe place for visitors.

British media identified the victim as Tom Dawson, 24, a graphic designer from London who was touring Asia, but his identity could not be immediately confirmed.

The tourist was assaulted near the Great Wall's well-traveled Badaling section, about 40 miles north of Beijing, according to an officer in the Yanqing Public Security Bureau who declined to give his name.

Violence against foreigners -- especially near a high-profile attraction like the Great Wall -- is rare in China, which places great value on its reputation as a safe place for tourists and its own citizens.

"There are police everywhere. Nothing like this has ever happened here," said Wu Cuixian, who has run a gaudy souvenir shop outside Badaling's main entrance for 10 years.

Added Ma Xiuxin, another shop owner: "No robberies, no violence, nothing."

Britain's Press Association and The Times of London both said Dawson was at the start of an eight-month tour of Asia. His throat was slashed and he suffered severe head wounds, the Times said.

The body was found Oct. 2, a day after China's National Day, the start of a weeklong holiday when millions of Chinese visit relatives and tourist attractions. That could make it far more difficult to track down the assailant.

Dawson told his family he intended to celebrate his birthday Sept. 29 on the Great Wall, the Times said. The newspaper said he set off alone.

Police using tracking dogs found Dawson's body in a ravine, the Times said. It said he was dressed in only a T-shirt and most of his belongings were gone. British consular staff identified his body from a photograph, according to the newspaper.

It was not clear exactly how far the victim was from populated areas when the attack took place. Aside from the wall itself, the rugged, mountainous area around Badaling has many remote nooks and little villages.

Though statistics are largely unavailable, violent crime across China appears to be on the upswing as upheaval from the country's economic openness and vast cultural change puts people out of jobs and on the move. That's bad news for China, where tourism is one of the top industries.

"If tourists were killed, it's really bad -- no matter if they're foreigners or Chinese," said Liu Aifu, a scholar at the Beijing Tourist Institute. "It's natural for people to worry about their safety if they know tourists were killed."

But on Thursday afternoon, a hazy fall day, the Badaling part of the wall was as crowded as ever, filled with Chinese and foreign tourists by the busload.

"Of course it's scary!" said Chen Yungjun, part of a tour group from northern China's Hebei province. "But there are so many people there, it doesn't seem like anything can happen."

Don Macmillan of Toronto, who first visited Badaling 15 years ago, said China's increasing openness brings with it a "natural evolution" -- including hazards.

"In the day I was here, no one would think of touching a tourist because of political repercussions," Macmillan said. "Once you open up doors to the commercial aspects, unfortunately, all facets of crime are also opened up."

The wall's modern sections around the Chinese capital date from the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644). Some parts have been restored since the Communist Party took power in 1949, and several -- including the most popular, Badaling -- draw hundreds of thousands of visitors each year.


christep
Oct 14, 02, 8:52 am
To add a first-hand experience - my girlfriend and I just got back from a long weekend in/around Beijing. While there we went to the Great Wall at Huanghua (one of the as yet unredevloped bits).

Unfortunately, the Beijing Pocket Rough Guide's assurances that "no-one will charge you entrance or try to sell you a T-shirt" were wrong in all aspects.

Moreover, after walking about a kilometre along the wall we encountered at one of the watchtowers a scruffy local man you demanded money simply to allow us to proceed further. He was not attempting to offer any goods or services, just standing blocking an archway through which it was necessary to pass. An argument ensued with my girlfriend who speaks reasonable Mandarin, with him making a hlaf-hearted and not at all plausible attempt to convince us that he was some sort of official. It then turned nasty when the local guy picked up a nearby glass bottle, smashed the end off it and threatened us with it. This didn't bother me unduly since I was about twice his size and half his age, but it was a bit sad.

However, at this point a number of other tourists arrived, and instead of taking safety in numbers and simply walking past the man, they all meekly paid up and proceeded.

Are we unusual in feeling that once tourists start giving in to this sort of extortion then the situation simply gets out of control until locals see tourists as an easy touch for more or less as much money as they want?

We decided to stick by our principles and turned round, having seen a fair bit of the Wall (or at least as much as we wanted to in the perma-smog which cuts visibility to a maximum of one kilometre).

We'd be interested in other travellers' views on this type of extortion.

rjh
Oct 16, 02, 7:47 am
The practice of "entrance fees" and "tolls" by non-officials for out-of-the-way sights or roads visited by travellers isn't all that uncommon, as I think about it.

How about the case of the tolls that used to be charged by Khymer soldiers to get across bridges when travelling from Bangkok to Siem Riep? Somewhat the same thing, except that the soldier typically had an AK-47 and was drunk. Generally your driver paid up and you went on.

It's the Wild West aspect of travelling in places that are unpoliced (or where the police themselves are part-time bandits.)

I guess, given similar circumstances, I would have tried to argue good naturedly a bit to negotiate the price down, offered a cigarette (I don't smoke), and then paid a lower acceptable price.

I'm not, of course, criticizing in any way what you did, since you were on the ground with all the details of your particular situation. It's helpful when countries have a Tourist Police. Then you sometimes give the Tourist Police the cigarette and a fee, equal to what you were objecting to in the first place.
Rich


moondog
Oct 20, 02, 2:48 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by christep:
While there we went to the Great Wall at Huanghua (one of the as yet unredevloped bits).
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Wow, your girlfriend must have more courage and determination than any of my female friends. I have never been on a more challenging hike than Huanghua Cheng. The first time I went there in 95, all of the women in our group turned back at the first tower. That was probably a good thing because the hike down is the scariest part (especially in the summer when the wall is too hot to touch for more than a few seconds). In spite of the harsh conditions, Huanghua is the best part of the Great Wall that I've visited to date. As for the money takers, it's pretty easy to tell them that they're breaking the law (ask to see their hukou and inform them that you will report them upon your return to Beijing) and just move on. I have never felt the least bit threatened by them (even when traveling solo).

christep
Oct 20, 02, 9:02 pm
I've got her well-trained on some of the hikes in Hong Kong http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/smile.gif

IndustrialPatent
Oct 27, 02, 11:25 pm
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_696113.html?menu=

Police in China say the suspected killer of a British tourist has been arrested.

The body of Tom Dawson was found by the Great Wall of China earlier this month.

Li Yin was arrested just over a week ago.

A police spokesman said a credit card and 10 travelers cheques belonging to the victim were found in Li's bag.

Mr Dawson, 24, is a graphic designer from London who was touring Asia.

Police claim Li has confessed to the crime. He allegedly told police he spotted the victim on the evening of September 30 camping in an ancient watchtower along a part of the wall just outside the popular Badaling section.

Li returned at dawn with a knife, intending to rob the victim as he slept, police say. However, the victim awoke and tried to stop Li, who then killed him.

The victim's body was found lying on a hillside next to the Great Wall the next day, by a pair of tourists.

"Li Yin admitted everything about the robbery and killing and did not try to hide any of the facts," said officer Liu We. The case has been sent for further processing, he said, without giving details.

schoflyer
Sep 25, 03, 6:48 pm
christep:
We were in at HinHua just prior to you in August 2002.

Was it the guy that wanted to to charge for the use of the ladder?

Did you go to the top and then down sawtooth?

Did you pay the woman in the orchard?

After not paying the first 2, we ended up spending a few bucks just to make our hike/climb/scramble more enjoyable.

Schoflyer

suzy1K
Sep 26, 03, 9:52 pm
And this is why we hired a driver in Beijing (Feng Wei -- who is awesome by the way -- we hire him every year) to take us to the Great Wall (Simitai - sp?). He kept the riff-raff away while we bandy about the Wall.

BTW Isn't it amazing how much the t-shirt prices drop on the way back to the parking lot?

moondog
Sep 27, 03, 12:45 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by suzy1K:
He kept the riff-raff away while we bandy about the Wall.
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At the risk of sounding overly PC, I found your post mildly offensive.

christep
Oct 11, 03, 12:26 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by schoflyer:
christep:
Was it the guy that wanted to to charge for the use of the ladder?

Did you go to the top and then down sawtooth?

Did you pay the woman in the orchard?
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In the end we paid (not a lot) at one or two places where people had provided (or claimed that they had provided) a bridge or something that we needed to get where we wanted to go. But the guy with the "ladder" was just too much - we didn't need the ladder to go there and we had just had enough extortion for one day.

bkong
Oct 21, 03, 4:28 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by suzy1K:
And this is why we hired a driver in Beijing (Feng Wei -- who is awesome by the way -- we hire him every year) to take us to the Great Wall (Simitai - sp?). </font>

suzy1K,

It's 'Simatai'. During the summer of 2002, I hiked from Jinshanling to Simatai with a large group and I only remember paying two tolls.

The first was when we supposedly crossed the border from Beijing Municipality into Hebei Province. I think the man gave us each some kind of ticket stub. I think he wore a dirty uniform, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

The second seemed legitimate since it was at the suspension bridge really close to a vendor area and some kind of ride at Simatai.

Do you remember paying these tolls?



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