Las Vegas - Consolidated "Wynn" thread

The casino developer announced Monday that he was dropping Le Reve, which means "the dream", in favor of Wynn Las Vegas.

"Others have finally convinced me that the Wynn name would allow us to cross-market and offer a consistency of branding for all our properties," Wynn said in a prepared statement.

Wynn's $2.4 billion casino is scheduled to open in March 2005. It will have 2,701 rooms and suites, 18 dining rooms, including six restaurants and a new 18-hole championship golf course. The resort plans to offer high-end boutiques and a full-service Ferrari and Maserati car dealership.

So now, what Donald Trump (and his ego) are to Atlantic City, Syeve Wynn (and his) will be to Las Vegas.

....sigh

IMO the more real, larger reasons for the change are that they've finally concluded that too few people know what Le Reve means in French, together with the prevailing anti-French sentiment in the U.S.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mtm767:
IMO the more real, larger reasons for the change are that they've finally concluded that too few people know what Le Reve means in French, together with the prevailing anti-French sentiment in the U.S.</font>

Not likely. As mileage junkie stated is more Wynn's ego and his desire to create his "brand". He's very well know in the Vegas and in the gambling community. Why not take advantage of it?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by skofarrell:
Not likely. As mileage junkie stated is more Wynn's ego and his desire to create his "brand". He's very well know in the Vegas and in the gambling community. Why not take advantage of it?
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I would think Steve Wynn of all people would have been aware of the branding opportunity from the beginning. The question in my mind is why the change so late. I've always thought Le Reve was an odd choice because it has no immediate connotation to probably the vast majority of people.

Do the vast majority of the people know the name "Wynn" any more than "Le Reve"? I wonder.

I'm sure serious gambling folk know who Steve Wynn is, but then, they'd also probably know that he was doing a casino where the old DI was, even without seeing Wynn's name all over the place in Donald Trump style.

d

From a pure marketing standpoint, it is a wise move. Since he will eventually have casinos in three countries, building "brand" awareness is important.

.02 from a marketing professional.

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I think Steve Wynn is a genius! First of all I don't think he is competing with Trump, I think he is much smarter and nicer than Trump. Steve Wynn stunned me when he sold Mirage Resorts to MGM. Already terrible changes have taken place and the elegance, dignity and charm of what were Mirage hotels has diminished greatly. In fact when he made the sale, I wrote him a letter, never expecting a response. I simply wrote that we had always enjoyed the way he ran his hotels and that we were so disappointed he sold. We wished him well and good health. HE WROTE ME BACK A PERSONAL NOTE and I have saved it. I think he is an old time gentleman who knows how to treat people and run a business. I wonder though if as part of the sale he had an agreement which is quite usual, that he would not open a competing business for a certain length of time. He kept saying he bought the DI for his wife ( http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttravel_forum/smile.gif). Perhaps enough time has elapsed that he can openly compete in the market without hurting the agreement.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by businesstraveler:
From a pure marketing standpoint, it is a wise move. Since he will eventually have casinos in three countries, building "brand" awareness is important.

.02 from a marketing professional.

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What are the three countries? I know about Macao and Las Vegas. What am I forgetting?

I believe he is in negotiations to build or take over a casino in Monte Carlo.

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The Wynn web site (http://www.wynnlasvegas.com) has been updated. It now includes FAQ's and room diagrams.

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Just curious to know what the buzz, if any, on Wynn, scheduled for April opening. Looking at the website, it shows a variety of large rooms; all look good. Some rooms are in the South Tower. Any advantages, disadvantages?
Considering a June stay. Anyone know if all services will be up and running? Appreciate any info. Thanks.
Here is the website. Unfortunately, it is woefully lacking in information or any special promos.
www.wynnlasvegas.com

Wynn has been very hush hush on happenings at his new place. They're cutting it close in order to be finished in time for opening, but that's pretty common. The show there, the Tony winning "Avenue Q" won't start until the fall, but the other stuff should be there. With his reputation, he won't need promos during the first few weeks, maybe months, of operation as he'll get tons of press coverage as it's the first mega-resort to open here in a few years.

Clark

I've got a reservation for 05/06 - 05/08, so I'll report back on the hotel.

I spoke to the reservations center a few weeks ago about an early May stay; they knew of no opening specials scheduled or being planned.

According to a post on vegaswatch.com, which quotes a reporter who spoke with a host, RFB comps for BJ require $500 per hand for 4 hours per day. RFB for VP players require $50,000 coin-in per day for RFB.

I received a special invite to stay at Wynn during its first week of opening (April 28th, 2005)... by luck of the draw, I just turned 21 too. :)
I have a three night stay (no one stays longer than three nights in Vegas) in a Tower Suite so I'll post about the amenities and everything when I get back!

I received a special invite to stay at Wynn during its first week of opening (April 28th, 2005)... by luck of the draw, I just turned 21 too. :)
I have a three night stay (no one stays longer than three nights in Vegas) in a Tower Suite so I'll post about the amenities and everything when I get back!

Take pictures!

I drove by there two days ago and if it opens in April I will be very, very surprised (were talking 6 weeks here folks)
The fact that LV has been getting a lot of rain ala So Cal is not helping any and all the TV news can talk about is flooded streets etc. etc.
(of course the shots shown on the news look a normal Summer evening in Florida :D )

mike

I have heard San Fransisco or a London casino theme. Is there any truth to this?

Just got my 'vegasresource.com' newsletter in my inbox this morning...There was a write up on it:

April 28: WYNN LAS VEGAS is opening The
Strip's pre-eminent luxury mega-resort
costing a whopping $2.7 billion!
The 45-story (the tallest tower in
Las Vegas), is 514-foot tall,
arc-shaped and is a chocolate-colored
reflective glass Tower. Will have
2,698 hotel rooms and suites, a
111,000-square-foot casino,
16 restaurants (including six
fine dining each with an indoor
and outdoor experience),
three-acre pool, luxury spa,
many brand-name high-end rstores,
The Strip's only 18-hole golf
course and an art gallery.
Each hotel room will cost $750,000
to build (Bellagio cost
$533,000 per room). Each room will
have floor-to-ceiling windows,
European linen and flat screen TV's.

Total of 8,000 permanent employees.
It is estimated that 2,500 of those will be present Bellagio
and Mirage employees, who previously worked for Steve
Wynn, attesting to the high esteem Steve Wynn is held and
the fact that he treats his employees so well and in
such high regard. Union shop is expected.

An eight-story, 100-foot mountain in the front of the
property (now rising out of the ground will enclose a
three-acre lake. Two winding, curved, atrium escalators
in the main lobby will cost $1.8 million.

Some of the upscale shopping that will be available are
Ferrari and Maserati car dealerships; Manolo Blahnik
(ladies shoes); Jean_Paul Gauthier (haute couture
women’s clothing); Oscar de la Renta (high-end fashion
designer); Jo Malone (perfumes); Brioni (Italian
clothing designer); Graff Jewelers; Chanel; Dior;
Louis Vuitton and Cartier.

There will be 16 restaurants in the project!
One of the restaurants specializing in high-end,
contemporary Japanese food will be named OKADA
in honor of a major investor in the project. Another
restaurant will be called ALEX after the star chef, Alex
Stratta, who closed his five-star restaurant, Renoir, in
the Mirage to join Steve Wynn in this project.
Daniel Boulud of Le Cirque and Daniel Restaurants in
New York City and Paul Bartolotta of Spiaggia
Restaurant in Chicago are some of the other famous
chefs who will open restaurants in this project.

The water-based, $24 million production show much
like "O", will be housed in the 2,080-seat, $70-million
AQUA THEATER, which will be finished eight months
before the Hotel to give rehearsal time for the new show.
Water will surround the audience - above, below and
even around their seats. The farthest seat will be a mere
40 feet from the stage.
In another 1,200-seat, $40 million theater, the
Tony-award winning, unorthodox, Broadway puppet play
"Avenue Q" will be presented.

Four nightclubs will be in the project. One of them will
be called "La Bete" (The Beast) which will be a
restaurant that will turn into a nightclub after 11 p.m.

Construction of the whole project is on time and on
budget.
Telephone: (702)770-7000 or 1-877-770-7077.

We get the same newsletter MBS. What I want to know is which restaurant is going to be on the top floor with that great view. And now that the information is that the high end restaurants all have indoor and outdoor dining I'm wondering if there is going to be an outdoor lounge or restaurant on the roof?

I have heard San Fransisco or a London casino theme. Is there any truth to this?

Wynn doesn't have a theme like that. There have been rumors of resorts with London or SF themes, but they haven't materialized. One of by Phil Ruffin, owner of the New Frontier. Ruffin did recently announce he was planning to raze the New Frontier and replace it with a bigger, nicer resort. It's adjacent to Trump's condo project. Info on it is here (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/gaming/2005/mar/08/518412424.html) . He has not mentioned a theme though. Themes are sort of not "in" right now, and projects that are talked about now don't mention a specific theme as they did ten to fifteen years ago.

clark

Each hotel room will cost $750,000 to build

:eek: Good god thats a lot of money. I thought maybe they just divided total hotel cost by total number of rooms, but that didn't add up. Of course, this is probably an average of every kind of room from the $20 million high roller suites to the double-twin overlooking the garage.

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The website www.wynnlasvegas.com is now up and running and has room pics, maps and lots of very interesting info on it.

Heid
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I just checked out the pics on the updated website.

Are they going to put those flat screen tvs on swivels? from the look of it you can only see the tv from the couch and even then you have to look off to the side, and you can't see it at all from the bed.... but i've never seen a swivel for a wall-mounted tv that big...

I walked by last weekend and they're putting up a ton of trees in the "front yard" area. Dunno exactly what's going on for the design, but it'll definately be cool to visit next time I go to town.

At the rates they're going to be asking for rooms, I don't think I'll be staying there anytime soon. I can play enough to get discounts at other places, but not there...

I'll wait until they start opening up rooms to priceline ;)

After checking the website, I'm seriously considering canceling my reservation. IMHO, the colors in that room are ugly and the furniture looks cheap. Also, as someone else posted, you can't see the television when lying on the bed. I'm a bit disappointed :td:

I just checked out the pics on the updated website.

Are they going to put those flat screen tvs on swivels? from the look of it you can only see the tv from the couch and even then you have to look off to the side, and you can't see it at all from the bed.... but i've never seen a swivel for a wall-mounted tv that big...


The floor plan for the basic room refers to an "adjustable flat screen LCD HDTV" . I assume the adjustable part of that allows viewing from the bed.

Would love to give this hotel a whirl, but I can't see it personally until the market for the Wynn product softens a bit.

WSJ had an article on Wynn earlier this week and said they're opening a second resort called "Encore" across the street (Desert Inn) from Wynn Las Vegas in a little while. I believe that's across from the new Trump project underway. They're talking about suites around 1,030 square feet running $350-$400/night, and going for the higher budget travelers, even higher than Wynn will be targeting.

Apparently the investors are very happy with the idea -- they've been throwing money at the project to get it going.

I'll be staying there in June. Most helpful was the CSR. She steered me away from some rooms which would face the golf course and steered me to other rooms which overlook the fountains. I was impressed with the knowledge the CSR had. Best to look at the website and than make a phone call.

I'll be staying there in June. Most helpful was the CSR. She steered me away from some rooms which would face the golf course and steered me to other rooms which overlook the fountains. I was impressed with the knowledge the CSR had. Best to look at the website and than make a phone call.I'm curious to know what factors the CSR mentioned in making this recommendation.

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After checking the website, I'm seriously considering canceling my reservation. IMHO, the colors in that room are ugly and the furniture looks cheap. Also, as someone else posted, you can't see the television when lying on the bed. I'm a bit disappointed :td:


I have been in the rooms. The t.v.'s do swivel. They are on wall mounted brackets and you will be able to see them fine from your bed.

That "Aqua" theater sounds really interesting.

I was at Bellagio a few months after it opened and it was a complete nightmare. The table minimums were way, way higher than they are now. How the mighty fall.

Wynn is probably going to be the same thing. I'll stop by to visit, but I'll let the dust settle before I stay or gamble there.

Any update on when they plan to open? I will be out there in a couple weeks and would love to see it!

Was in LV last weekend and the Wynn seems to be coming along nicely, very cool looking from the outside, I would be suprised if they are not ready on time.

I checked out the website and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a pool area. There is info on the spa/salon. One of the reasons I love to go Vegas is the pool scene on a Saturday afternoon. Anyone have info on a pool at Wynn?

princess-they will have an incredible pool.
Staying this weekend at the Ren.which looks into the Wynns back yard.I will post a full review tuesday.

Got an offer for two FREE night at Wynn Las Vegas!(2nd weekend in May)I cannot wait!

princess-they will have an incredible pool.
Staying this weekend at the Ren.which looks into the Wynns back yard.I will post a full review tuesday.Thanks! One of the big disappointments of the Venetian is a cr*ppy pool. Hopefully Wynn won't make that mistake!

Rachel

What do you play to get this offer?

QL

Nothing-I wrote a letter to Mr.Wynn saying I was looking forward to his returning class to las vegas(one more time)
Guess he liked that.
But others have reported getting free night offers-maybe some of the host/vip people from Mirage-Bellagio came over with their rolodexes?

Looking forward to your trip report when you get back, including how you did at the tables, and your thoughts about the general casino layout.

bj-21.

I have at least three hosts over there who came over from other properties but have not received an offer (I did receive a credit app) nor have any of the other slot players I know. I would appreciate information about any offers you know about.

That was very nice of Wynn to invite you in.

QL

After reading the gripes in certain places about not being targeted for this promotion or that, QL's most recent post here is refereshing to read.

Well the news on the Wynn pool is mixed.
Yes it will be GOURGEOUS but it is being built between the main hotel and the Villas-so you might have to case the sun and the main building is going to block a lot of sun in the late aternoons.
The golf course is very tight-but beautiful(Tom Fazio redesigned the Dessert Inns old course.
The rest of the landscaping is very lovely-they are working around the clock to get it finished.
Cannot wait to see the rooms.

Quietly and with virtually no fanfare, Wynn Resorts launched a new website recently for the upcoming $2.6 billion Wynn Las Vegas Resort offering a tantalizing sneak peek. Due to open April 28, the details of the hotel have been shrouded in secrecy until now. Here's a rundown of some of the details of the resort.

The bulk of the hotel's 2,700 rooms are situated in the gracefully curving bronze tower that will apparently be separated into two sections. The standard rooms will be accessible from the main hotel lobby while the VIP Tower section is accessed through a private gated entry with a separate VIP check-in.

If the pictures are a fair representation, the decor is surprisingly modern with bold and dramatic colors and plush looking furnishings that lean more toward the contemporary side of things but still have a traditional element.

There are six types of rooms:

The Resort Suite is the most common. At 640-square feet it is larger than most standard hotel rooms in the city with the exception those at The Venetian and THEhotel. It has a fairly standard layout (bathroom as soon as you walk in, the rest of the room past that) except in the rooms with one bed it is situated on the wall between the living area and the bathroom facing the windows as opposed to along the wall between rooms.

It features a marble entry; a sitting area with a couch, two chairs, a small dining table, and a desk; a comfy looking bed or two with 320 thread count linens; a flat screen LCD television; a cordless phone, fax machine, and high-speed Internet access; and a marble bath with soaking tub and separate shower, dual vanity, water closet, and another LCD TV.

Panoramic View Suites are the same as the Resort Suites only with better views presumably through the floor to ceiling, wall-to-wall windows.

The rooms known as the Tower Suites are also laid out identically to the Resort and Panoramic View Suites but are located in the more exclusive part of the tower and will, presumably, have a few more perks included although the website didn't really indicate what those might be.

From there you move into the bigger suites including the Executive Suites at 933-square-feet, a single over-sized room with a sitting area and his and hers baths; the Parlor Suite, at 1,280 square feet with a big living room and separate bedroom, wet bar, and a 42" plasma television; and the huge 1,950 square feet Salon Suites with a giant living room, separate bedroom, full size bar (no wussy wet bars tucked in a corner), a massage room, and a 50" plasma screen television.

There are also the Fairway Villas, house size units facing the golf course that are so super-exclusive they aren't even detailed on the website. This is where the celebrities and the really high-rollers will be staying.

The standard Resort Suites will start at around $200 and go up from there with $400 a night on busy weekends not uncommon. I don't even want to think about how much the bigger suites will be going for.

The casino will feature all the standard table games including blackjack, craps, roulette, Let It Ride, Three Card Poker, Caribbean Stud poker, Pai Gow poker, and more. More than 1,900 slot and video poker machines will feature the latest ticket-in-ticket-out technology with denominations ranging from one cent to $5,000 a pull. There's also a poker room, keno, and a state of the art sports book.

They Wynn Resorts players' club will be called The Red Card, presumably for the color of the card you will be given to use around the casino. Word on the streets is the players' club will be the stingiest in town, offering rewards and comps only to the people who spend so much money that they really don't need to worry about rewards and comps.

However if you use the card in the casino at a slot machine you will be eligible for the unique Bonus Bingo game. These free bonus games will happen at random intervals and up to $10,000 will be awarded at no cost to you (other than the money you're pumping into the slot machine in front of you).

There will be two shows eventually but only one at the opening. It's called "Le Reve: A Small Collection of Imperfect Dreams." It is described on the website as an "aquatic spectacular" from Franco Dragone (Mystere, O, Celine Dion's A New Day) performed in the domed theater in the round with no seat further than 40 feet from the action. It'll be presented 7:30 and 10:30 Thursday through Monday with tickets going for $121 apiece.

If you're hungry while you're there you'll have nearly two dozen options for your dining enjoyment. Among the notables are French Riviera cuisine at Alex from chef Alessandro Stratta, formerly of the celebrated Renoir at the Mirage; SW Steakhouse from chef Eric Klein, winner of Best New Chef awards from Food & Wine Magazine and Angeleno Magazine; Daniel Boulud Brasserie, a French bistro from the James Beard Award winning namesake chef; Bartolotta, Italian cuisine from Paul Bartolotta, winner of the Best American Chef - Midwest from the James Beard Foundation; Okada, a Japanese restaurant from Takashi Yagahashi, another James Beard Foundation award winner; Red 8, featuring Southeast Asian cuisine from Hisham Johari; Tableua, offering American cuisine from chef Mark LoRusso; and Corsa Cucina from chef Stephen Kalt will be an upscale cafe style restaurant.

Those are just the big ones - there are many others including a giant buffet.

If you have a credit card burning a hole in your pocket it better have a really high spending limit if you want to do some shopping at Wynn Las Vegas. The list of stores reads like a Rodeo Drive map: Manolo Blahnik, Dior, Cartier, Gaultier, Oscar de la Renta, Jo Malone, Graff, Judith Leiber, Brioni, and Chanel and just a few examples and of course what would a luxury resort be without its own Ferrari and Maserati dealership.

The golf course is all new from Tom Fazio and Steve Wynn who previously paired together on Shadow Creek, the $500 a tee course considered by many to be one of the best in the entire world. The new Wynn course replaces the legendary old Desert Inn course and features an 18 hole par 70 course totaling 7,042 yards, a clubhouse lounge and restaurant, a pro shop, a chipping green, a putting green, and a ten acre driving range.

According the site, they went all out on the golf course landscaping, moving more than 800,000 cubic yards of earth to sculpt the course, adding hills, valleys, streams, waterfalls, and marshlands. They even saved more than 1,200 trees from the old Desert Inn course including a few dating back to the original construction more than 50 years ago.

A full spa and salon, a couple of full service wedding chapels, and lots of meeting and convention space round out the offerings.

I checked out the website and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a pool area. There is info on the spa/salon. One of the reasons I love to go Vegas is the pool scene on a Saturday afternoon. Anyone have info on a pool at Wynn?

I wouldn't put too much trust in the website. The info is kept sparse on purpose, keep people guessing, talking about it etc. A friend of mine who works there gave me a tour a few weeks ago and the pool like everything else in the place is great, you will not be disapointed. In my opinion the rooms at the Bellagio, post renovation are nicer but that is one man's opinion.

If you want a "pool scene" I would suggest looking elsewhere. The targeted demo for Wynn is not the 22 year So Cal hottie you see at Hard Rock or Mandalay. I'm not saying they won't be there, but not in as great numbers.

I wouldn't put too much trust in the website. The info is kept sparse on purpose, keep people guessing, talking about it etc. A friend of mine who works there gave me a tour a few weeks ago and the pool like everything else in the place is great, you will not be disapointed. In my opinion the rooms at the Bellagio, post renovation are nicer but that is one man's opinion.

If you want a "pool scene" I would suggest looking elsewhere. The targeted demo for Wynn is not the 22 year So Cal hottie you see at Hard Rock or Mandalay. I'm not saying they won't be there, but not in as great numbers.I never said I was looking for an HRH pool but a decent pool, with decent sun and a good pool side drink service. Wynn is not trying to compete for the young beautiful people scene that is the bread and butter of HRH. Just by looking at the price points and decor of the two hotels would tell you that. All I am saying is that some hotels, most notably The Venetian are high end hotels who have a terrible pool. It is nothing but a square backyard pool with little green area around the pool. The pool at the V is a big disappointment IMHO. My comments were directed at the fact that there is NO mention of pool anywhere on the Wynn website which to me infers that the pool is not a major draw at this new hotel.

PS - you aren't the only one who has been to Vegas. I know about the HRH and Mandalay no need to talk down to me. :rolleyes:

I never said I was looking for an HRH pool but a decent pool, with decent sun and a good pool side drink service. Wynn is not trying to compete for the young beautiful people scene that is the bread and butter of HRH. Just by looking at the price points and decor of the two hotels would tell you that. All I am saying is that some hotels, most notably The Venetian are high end hotels who have a terrible pool. It is nothing but a square backyard pool with little green area around the pool. The pool at the V is a big disappointment IMHO. My comments were directed at the fact that there is NO mention of pool anywhere on the Wynn website which to me infers that the pool is not a major draw at this new hotel.

PS - you aren't the only one who has been to Vegas. I know about the HRH and Mandalay no need to talk down to me. :rolleyes:

I was giving you my opinion. I have worked for Steve Wynn before he sold to MGM and have friends who work for him now in management. They and I know the business more than most people here. I have seen the inside of the hotel, again something most people here cannot say. I have an idea of what their marketing strategy is, including what is ephasized on the web site and what is not.

Having said all that I was offering an opinion about the hotel, the pool and the alternatives so that readers could make an informed opinion as to where to stay on their trip to Las Vegas. I thought the idea of FT was a give and take on travel, with people expreessing different viewpoints and giving a variety of opinions. Sorry to have offended you by suggesting that someone out there may know something you don't.

Besides you shouldn't be in the sun in the afternoon, bad for the skin.

Thank you, Da_Guy, for your informative responses. The detailed information is very helpful. I will be in Vegas on the 28th and may take a look at Wynn but am leary of how big the crowds will be. It may wait till next trip if it looks too crowded. I sure do love the look of the building from the outside!

Princess - Just my 2 cents, but I did not feel his responses were in any way meant to be talking down to you.

Princess - Just my 2 cents, but I did not feel his responses were in any way meant to be talking down to you.It is not just his post in this thread it is EVERY post he makes in the Las Vegas Forum. He always has to talk about how self important he is and who he knows. He also tries to make himself seem important by talking about things off topic. See the thread about bars. The OP asked about cool bars not how to name drop and get into dance clubs. da_guy had to ramble on and on about who he knows,etc.

Everyone here is interested in FACTUAL information. The pool is not open yet so no one knows what the pool looks like completed and staffed, but instead da_guy proceeded to make up his own story. I am very interested in what bigguyinpasadena has to say about the casino once it open and running.

According to a post on vegaswatch.com, which quotes a reporter who spoke with a host, RFB comps for BJ require $500 per hand for 4 hours per day. RFB for VP players require $50,000 coin-in per day for RFB.

It'll be just like any casino. The first couple of months the place is open the table limits will be $100 and nobody will ever get anything comped. After that, your average RFB high roller will be able to get comped for his or her normal level of action. Then it all goes downhill until they have 5c slots like Bellagio, and the Gucci and Ferrari shops are eventually replaced by Payless Shoe Store. I mean, there are only so many ways to do a casino. There are only so many types of games; and you have to have a pool, spa, coffee shop, steakhouse, gourmet room, sports book, and some frou-frou shops. It's hard to imagine what features Wynn could bring to his casino that he didn't already implement at the Mirage or Bellagio.

A big thankyou to zedthedeadpoet for sharing that with us.I am glad to see they will have a buffet-and hopefully a good coffee shop.
And they wil have penny slots!I know these machines will take up to $5 a spin-but I won $500 on a penny slot this last weekend!Only big win of the trip.
And I always get offers from Bellagio,Mirage,Venetian,,,I am only a slot player(play cards and dice at off stip properties) but I do give them some action-and when buisness slows down,the offers start a-coming.

It is not just his post in this thread it is EVERY post he makes in the Las Vegas Forum. He always has to talk about how self important he is and who he knows. He also tries to make himself seem important by talking about things off topic. See the thread about bars. The OP asked about cool bars not how to name drop and get into dance clubs. da_guy had to ramble on and on about who he knows,etc.

Everyone here is interested in FACTUAL information. The pool is not open yet so no one knows what the pool looks like completed and staffed, but instead da_guy proceeded to make up his own story. I am very interested in what bigguyinpasadena has to say about the casino once it open and running.

Geez you make an innocent comment and get jumped on. I always find the most useful comments on a city from people who live there since they know more than your 2 weeks a year visitor does, no matter how much that visitor thinks he/she klnows. If you told me some cool stuff about New Orleans I would appreciate it, not jump on you and accuse you of trying to look like a big shot.

As for the dance clubs, you were the one that brought the topic up. You said you need 2 porns stars to get in which is not true amd I pointed out that as most people don;t know two porn stars and obviously people do get in, there are other ways to do it. And yea I know people who work at dance clubs. Big deal. 90% of Las Vegas residents do, I never said I was special, just stated an innocuous fact that for some reason upsets the hell out of you.

ok ok ok-----please drop this now-please?

It'll be just like any casino. The first couple of months the place is open the table limits will be $100 and nobody will ever get anything comped. After that, your average RFB high roller will be able to get comped for his or her normal level of action. Then it all goes downhill until they have 5c slots like Bellagio, and the Gucci and Ferrari shops are eventually replaced by Payless Shoe Store.
Ah, yes. I was at Bellagio not too long after it opened and the place was completely packed with very, very high minimums. A few years later and it's turned around quite a bit.

Wynn will be on top for a couple years, then the new thing will open or the other casinos will do what they need to do to compete. Which is good for us players.

Ah, yes. I was at Bellagio not too long after it opened and the place was completely packed with very, very high minimums. A few years later and it's turned around quite a bit.

Wynn will be on top for a couple years, then the new thing will open or the other casinos will do what they need to do to compete. Which is good for us players.
Talk about high minimums: We were at the Bellagio over a Super Bowl Weekend. The minimums were insane. We have reservations at Wynn in June and I suspect that the minimums at the tables will still be pretty high. Thankfully, we don't gamble too much; just enough to make it interesting.

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Besides you shouldn't be in the sun in the afternoon, bad for the skin.


:rolleyes:

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Was in Vegas last weekend and read that the Wynn Hotel is opening on Saturday, 4/23 and is supposed to costs like $30 Billion more to build than the Bellagio did to build!

I think you might have typed an extra digit.


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Estimated total cost (including land acquisition, construction, and company development): $2.6 Billion

http://www.vegas4visitors.com/accom/frames/wynnfrm.htm

Apparently they're giving away nights to previous Desert Inn Rated Players. (very off peak nights though)


I have at least three hosts over there who came over from other properties but have not received an offer (I did receive a credit app) nor have any of the other slot players I know. I would appreciate information about any offers you know about.

That was very nice of Wynn to invite you in.

QL

I received an offer for free nights at Wynn (probably based on Desert Inn play). I hope I can find an open $5 blackjack table :)

Wynn offers inside look at new resort

Strip property is set to open April 28

By Jeff Simpson
LAS VEGAS SUN

Wynn Las Vegas opens to the public in less than nine days, and the inside of the $2.7 billion megaresort already looks spectacular.

Wynn Resorts Chairman Steve Wynn offered the Las Vegas Sun a Monday tour of the property slated to open at the stroke of midnight on April 28, and the Strip's newest hotel and casino is almost ready for its debut.

Construction crews were finishing work on the property while Wynn showed off his newest creation, and hundreds of the 9,500 employees were familiarizing themselves with their new workplace.

Wynn said the employees are the property's most critical ingredient, and he thinks he's acquired the best workforce in the business, even better than the casts he assembled for his 1998 opening of Bellagio and 1989 premiere of the Mirage when he was at the helm of Mirage Resorts.

"The building is dandy," Wynn said of his chocolate-colored hotel tower and its many features. "It's a good job -- it's done. The building can't do anything more. It stands as is. But it won't be about the building. It will be about the people. It always is.

"Someone likes our flowers, or they don't. Someone likes our look, or they don't. It's exactly the position we've been in at the Mirage and Bellagio. It's up to our staff to bring the building to life for our guests. They'll experience the building through the rhythm the staff brings.

"Give me a second-rate building and a first-rate staff anytime, instead of a first-rate building and a second-rate staff. But if you have a first-rate building and a first-rate staff, you'll light it up."

The news media won't be allowed to take photographs of the property until the May 4 release of Vanity Fair magazine, which Wynn offered an exclusive first look. Wynn spokeswoman Denise Randazzo said Wynn decided not to do an elaborate preopening public relations blitz like he did when he opened Treasure Island in 1993.

Despite admitting some preopening anxiety, it's clear Wynn believes he's created a masterpiece.

As he showed off the look of the property's casino, restaurants, showroom areas, retail areas and entrances, Wynn beamed, but declined to say what he thought of his new baby.

"I'm too close to this," he demurred, but quickly noted that the Wall Street analysts, casino executives and Wynn friends who've seen the property as it's taken shape have been blown away by the hotel and its look.

"DreamWorks' Jeffrey Katzenberg was here four weeks ago, then again Sunday night," Wynn said. He said it outstripped Katzenberg's expectations, as did the other people who've seen it.

The look of the inside of the casino is almost exactly the same as the look of a mock-up casino Wynn erected behind the old Desert Inn in 2002.

Similar to Bellagio, tapestries and soft, cream-colored accents make the big casino seem more intimate. Unlike Bellagio, the Wynn Las Vegas color scheme incorporates a number of colorful accents, including festive tile mosaics on the floors.

Wynn said he wanted to make each separate space inside his hotel provide his guests with a unique environment, one that would engage them.

"We wanted a clean, sophisticated look, and to create a series of theaters, visually experiential theaters that stimulate the guest," he said.

Probably the property's most dramatic design feature is the mini-mountain that sits on the Strip side of the property, between Las Vegas Boulevard and the west side of the casino, restaurants and shops.

A dramatic foyer bracketed by curving escalators overlooks one part of the mountain, with brightly covered whimsical glass umbrellas suspended overhead.

The property's main hotel registration area overlooks a different part of the mountain, as does Okada, the property's Japanese restaurant.

Wynn stood in one of the sliding-glass doorways that separate Okada, named for Wynn Resorts Vice Chairman Kazuo Okada, from a serene pond that wraps around that wedge of the mountain. "It would cost more than $100 million to replicate this kind of a setting," he said.

The part of the restaurant with tableside cooking overlooks another mountain theater, a lagoon that will provide a dramatic backdrop for one of the resort's nightclubs.

The casino's entrances are separated from the fast pace and bright lights of the Strip by a lot of trees, flowers and plants -- transition areas Wynn said are key to the first impression made on guests.

The developer said he wishes he had more time to smooth the property's few remaining wrinkles, but believes Wynn Las Vegas will be nearly perfect for next week's opening.

"Having a hard opening date of April 28th was probably a mistake," Wynn said. "But we're going to make it. Everything will be ready.

"But I'd love to have another month to play with every part of it, adjusting the lighting and making sure everything's perfect."

Wynn plans to meet with each of the property's employees in three giant Sunday meetings.

"I can't wait to talk to 'em," Wynn enthused. "There's no newcomers here, but I'll be telling them that what we've got to do is go back to fundamentals. It's all about the guest."

He said 105,000 people applied for positions at the hotel. He estimated that 3,500 of the property's workers were recruited by Wynn Resorts, meaning that the 105,000 applicants were whittled down to the best 6,000 candidates.

"They're all jazzed," Wynn said, a comment that was reinforced by the beaming faces and appreciative comments offered from workers as Wynn showed off the property.

Wynn said he and builder Tony Marnell have learned a lot during the Wynn Las Vegas project that will make building Wynn Resorts' planned Encore resort much easier.

Slated to be built just north of Wynn Las Vegas, with groundbreaking scheduled for the end of summer, Encore will be better planned than its neighbor, Wynn said.

Marnell said the project was much more difficult to build than was Bellagio, and that his workers accomplished the mission in 30 months, six less than it took him to build the older project, the Strip's biggest money maker.

At Bellagio, Marnell's company staged the project from what eventually became the property's lake. At Wynn Las Vegas, he had no such luxury, and far less maneuverability.

"Steve Wynn put a mountain in my way," Marnell said.

"The building is vastly more complicated than anything we've done before, in its ambition for the guest experience," Wynn added.

Former Sheriff Jerry Keller, Wynn Las Vegas' security chief, said his staff will be busy for the next two weeks.

"There's not much time, and we've got a lot to do," Keller said.

Wynn said the reactions of people who've toured the hotel are one of two strong indicators of the kind of business Wynn Las Vegas will do.

The property's convention bookings are the other measure, and he said that bookings and room rates have both exceeded expectations. Convention-related room rates were projected at $236 per night but have been booked at a $245 nightly clip.

"And we could have charged more, but we wanted to focus on the quality of the groups," Wynn said.

He said his lineup of chefs and ability to cater exceptionally high-end events will separate Wynn Las Vegas from other Strip hotels.

"The convention bookers are the first group of people we attempted to show the property to," he said. "We have a five-star catering chef. As a matter of fact, all of our chefs are five-star or James Beard award-winning chefs. They're from Paris, from the Midwest, from New York. They came from everywhere."

He disputed a newspaper columnist's recent report that Wynn didn't like celebrity chefs.

"I don't like celebrity chefs?" he asked. "I got nothing but celebrity chefs."

Wynn bristled at the same columnist's contention that others who've viewed the property said its hotel rooms have giant plasma televisions that aren't visible from the rooms' beds.

"The televisions are right in the middle, aimed straight at the bed," he offered.

Shortstack and I will be there the morning of the 28th checking it out. Look for us!

QL

Here's an interesting article about the opening from Sunday's LV Review-Journal. Good birds-eye view photos of the Golf Course, Pool, Mountain, & some suites.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Apr-24-Sun-2005/news/26306655.html

Anyone find any online yet?

drudgereport has one up that i haven't seen anywhere else....

it's been open a good 12 hours to the public, i'm sure some pics have made it online....

http://www.allvegaspoker.com/news_detail_54.html

Review and (mediocre) pictures of the Wynn poker room.

Wynn Pictures (http://forums.lasvegasadvisor.com/messageview.cfm?catid=17&threadid=159529&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=&STARTPAGE=1)

http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2127483683&code=15745918&mode=invite&DCMP=isc-email-AlbumInvite

http://www.dangie.com/fey/wynn3/index.htm

Ssia...

For those of you interested in an overview of the restaurant offerings & prices, follow this link to an informative review on the Las Vegas Sun's website.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/read/2005/apr/28/518674876.html

FYI ... I already tried to book Okada for a Saturday evening two weeks out, and they had nothing before 10:30pm. I assume they're holding a good number of the seats back for hotel guests (as I was asked whether or not I was one.)

The Wynn is a very large casino-hotel with a floor area the size of a couple of football fields. The decor is breathtaking. I visited the first day it was open and the table minimums ranged from $25-500 at blackjack and $15-25 at craps. Slot machines range from 1c-$5000. I had lots of fun there. The only negatives I observed are: the place is very, very, large (mother-in-law got lost); and there are few bathrooms, located at quite some distance from the gaming area and hard to find -- if you have a weak bladder stay away, you won't make it.

MBstone-what did you think of the decor?I got one report from a guy who said"well it(the cost) must be all in the rooms becase the hotel is not so grand"
I find that hard to belive knowing Mr. Wynns love of the "wow"factor.
Also,did you eat in any of the restaurants?The Buffet?Prices?

It was not all that impressive considering the hype. Many of the flowers were fake! I have tons of pictures, maybe I'll get off my duff and put them on the internet tomorrow or Thursday. Then you can decide for yourself. But it doesn't look like a billion-plus dollars.

And the poster who said there weren't enough bathrooms? You are SOOOO correct.

And what's with the big statue of a shoe in the parking lot? Yikes.


MBstone-what did you think of the decor?I got one report from a guy who said"well it(the cost) must be all in the rooms becase the hotel is not so grand"
I find that hard to belive knowing Mr. Wynns love of the "wow"factor.
Also,did you eat in any of the restaurants?The Buffet?Prices?

The pictures I saw (link posted in another thread here) weren't that impressive.

I mean really, there's only so much you can do with a casino. Though if the plants are plastic, that's pretty lame.

One of my top casinos right now is the Borgata. It's pretty simple, not overly opulent, but understated classy.

Pretty much all the plants in Mandaley Bay are fake.Bellagio(outside of the conservetory)and Mirage are 50/50 %
These are such huge structures that they cannot think of going with 100% real plants-even with the incredible greenhouses that both properties utilise.

I didn't feel like posting all the same pictures of flower balls in the trees and mosaics as everybody else but I posted a few of my pictures if you are brave:

http://peachfront.diaryland.com/whackwynn.html

Yeah, agreed, a casino is a casino is a casino but with all the hype I just expected more. Don't really know what more. At least they are not killing any magnolia trees like they did at Beau Rivage in Biloxi. :-)

I didn't feel like posting all the same pictures of flower balls in the trees and mosaics as everybody else but I posted a few of my pictures if you are brave:

http://peachfront.diaryland.com/whackwynn.html

Yeah, agreed, a casino is a casino is a casino but with all the hype I just expected more. Don't really know what more. At least they are not killing any magnolia trees like they did at Beau Rivage in Biloxi. :-)

If people want to spend $1 mil for a diamond, what's your beef? Same goes for $10K handbags and $500 shoes. I was there Friday night and could barely move it was so packed. I don't forsee a shortage of visitors any time soon. And with people paying $300 a night and up for a room, I don't forsee a shortage of profits either.

What's with the shoe?

They have a review up at Cheapo Vegas (http://www.cheapovegas.com/vegas_casino_full.php?hotel_id=1078).

MBstone-what did you think of the decor?I got one report from a guy who said"well it(the cost) must be all in the rooms becase the hotel is not so grand"
I find that hard to belive knowing Mr. Wynns love of the "wow"factor.
Also,did you eat in any of the restaurants?The Buffet?Prices?

The rooms are awesome. Please see my post in "Luxury Hotels." I ate room service and at the Terrace Pointe Cafe (coffee shop). Room service, I had shrimp quesadillas and kung pao chicken ($45); at the cafe, I had stuffed clams ($12) and beef tenderloin ($29) -- all comp. I did not eat at The Buffet. Both cafe and buffet had long lines, which I was able to skip at the cafe because I had a comp. I did not observe an "invited guest" line at the buffet. My best recollection is that The Buffet is on the order of $23 for lunch and $27 for dinner.

The Buffet is on the order of $23 for lunch and $27 for dinner.
Whoa, that's pretty expensive for a buffet. I paid $27 for a dinner buffet at Bellagio and that was their Labor Day Champagne Dinner. I hope Wynn's buffet was worth it.

I don't get the shoe. It's just silly in my humble opinion. As are the flower balls, which are only impressive if they are real flowers but become sad and tacky when you realize that there are so many fakes woven in. I know, tough crowd. But that's my opinion. I expect more for the money. (Well, I guess I mean I expect more for their money. I'm like the other guy, I only do comps in Vegas.)

What's with the shoe?

I tried stopping in on Monday but was turned back when I pulled in the entrance off of Desert Inn. Apparently parking was full, or maybe because I was only driving an Impala instead of the Lexus, BMW and Mercedes suggested by cheapovegas. Was told to try the entrance off of LV Blvd., but it looked like it would take about an hour to make that right, so I just headed back to my low limit gambling at places like Barbary Coast, Casino Royal and downtown.

Driving a nice car doesn't help (my T-bird was turned away). Neither does parking in the Wynn self-park garage (I waited 30 min to get -out-). Park in the Fashion Show Mall and walk instead, it is the same distance as the Wynn self-park garage. Also, if you must drive into the Wynn for any reason (i.e. you are in a cab), use the street between the mall and the Frontier and go straight at the light.

Are ya'll serious? On Thursday the 28th I was driven right to the door (and the infamous Shoe) in my friend's rental Neon. That's why I was worried the place wasn't doing so well. I'm glad that business picked up since the more successful casinos the better for some of us. :) It was raining quite a bit on Thursday morning at one point so maybe this is what kept the crowds down.

Driving a nice car doesn't help (my T-bird was turned away). Neither does parking in the Wynn self-park garage (I waited 30 min to get -out-). Park in the Fashion Show Mall and walk instead, it is the same distance as the Wynn self-park garage. Also, if you must drive into the Wynn for any reason (i.e. you are in a cab), use the street between the mall and the Frontier and go straight at the light.

I stopped in there the afternoon of the 5th.The line to turn in off the strip was at least a block long and not moving.I parked at the Frontier and walked over.No hassels easy in, easy out.

I am at Wynn now. The minimums at a glance are:

- a few $10 bj games ( I mean a few). The rest $15 and up. Mostly $25's
- $15 craps
- $10 caribbean stud
- $300 baccarat (I was looking for a $100 game. :( )
- Didn't check roulette and the rest.

The place is mobbed!

The only negatives I observed are: the place is very, very, large (mother-in-law got lost)

Can't wait to go!!! :p

I am Wynn now. The minimums at a glance are:

- a few $10 bj games ( I mean a few). The rest $15 and up. Mostly $25's
- $15 craps
- $10 caribbean stud
- $300 baccarat (I was looking for a $100 game. :( )
- Didn't check roulette and the rest.

The place is mobbed!



Sweet. Finally someone resplied to the OP. THANK YOU

We were at the Wynn on April 29th & 30th (the hotel opened at midnight on Thursday). The most positive thing we can say about the Wynn is that we were at the grand opening. The entire experience is very unimpressive. The decor is lackluster. Most hotels try to impress you in the hotel lobby -- at the Wynn, your first impression will be "this is it??" Although the fresh flowers are nice, and the large solid color flower balls striking, at a closer look you see artificial flowers interwoven in them, which may be better for the environment. The mosaic tile on the floor is already tearing up. The shops are nice, but are the same designer shops you find at any upper scale hotel or shopping area. Do people really go to Vegas to go shopping?

We had a regular room (standard room) cost was around $263 (with tax) per night. LCD tv's in the room, and the rooms are spacious and comfortable (hope you like the color rusty brown) but not near as comfortable and as tastefully decorated as the Venetian and Four Seasons.
At least at Four Seasons, you get excellent service -- we understand the hotel was just opening, and there are always glitches to be worked out, but any staff at all was hard to come by. We left our room at 8am on Saturday and returned at nearly 4pm and still had not received maid service. A call to guest services assured us that housekeeping would be there soon -- and they were there quickly, in about 30 minutes.

We ate at the cafe (I think it was called the Terrace something or other, I can't remember). Prices were reasonable, service was excellent (which is something to be said for it's first day in business) but the food was very disappointing for just a casual meal. Perhaps that will improve with time.
They do serve you cute little coffee flavored sugar crystal sticks with your coffee and all the flatware is engraved with "Wynn." Our servers seemed excited to be there and eager to please. We didn't try the buffet, the lines were long and a few people coming out recommended that it wasn't worth the wait (or any wait). We had dinner at the Bartolotto, chilean sea bass in a green peppercorn sauce which was to die for! Most restaurants no longer serve chilean sea bass since it has been over fished, I'm assuming the Wynn isn't real environmentally concerned since it was on the menu twice -- neither must we be since we ordered it though? Eeeks! It was about what you would pay in any full service restaurant in Vegas -- $150 for our entree, two iced teas, two green salads and one caramel raspberry flan desert.

The casino is just like any other casino, but people didn't seem to be as animated there. It made us wonder if they were losing more or just frustrated that cocktail waitresses seemed to be extinct. Table minimums are high - there are a few 25$ black jack tables - they seemed to have waiting lines. Craps & roulette seemd to be mostly 50$ min. We did venture into the high roller slot area just to observe, definitely not to play! :) It's amazing to watch people play machines starting at 500$ - and many were playing machines that were even higher. Most of these people did not appear to be American, I wonder what that says? They did have a small VIP lounge at the back of the room, which had snacks (we grabbed a few jumbo cashews). There were separate glassed in rooms for high stakes baccarat and other games. We did like the idea of the "red card" -- your room key is also your player card, that makes it very convenient, but just found the game limits higher that what we like since we usually go to lose. :)

We can say we went to the opening, but on our return trips, this is a hotel and a casino that we won't be visiting on our future trips. We found the "Invited Guest" lines located at every restaurant to be a bit intimidating.
What is the opposite of "invited guest?" Un-invited guest? ;)

The table minimums listed above were in effect when I was there this past weekend (for Blackjack a few $15 and the rest at least $25).

One thing to keep in mind, they have several horrible variations of blackjack going on, including: Continuous shuffle machines, Hit on soft 17, 6/5 single deck, and even a 6/5 double deck game (with a $25 minimum) - I could find no real pattern to the placement of the blackjack games, and games next to each other had different rules/number of decks.

The video poker machines that I saw did not have even close to OK pay tables. Also, the poker room looked nice, but I think the tables are too close together.

Mrs. zippyh and I ate at the Wynn buffet for dinner Monday night. It reminded me a lot of the Bellagio buffet at least foodwise. The space is a lot nicer though. They had the usual suspects of prime rib, shrimp, crab legs, etc. They had actual rare lamb chops which was a nice surprise. The salads were not bad either. Most of the dishes seemed Bellagio buffet quality.

The baked goods were mediocre and the desserts were pathetic though. They had crepe toppings and ice cream toppings, but no crepes being made and they "hoped to have ice cream next week".

The servers seemed inexperienced but eager to please. I saw a busboy pocketing tips while he was clearing tables though.

It was difficult to tell if it was on purpose or just imcompetance, but it took a good 15 minutes to pay to get in when we arrived (about 6pm) and there were only about 10 people in front of us. There were lots of empty tables.

The silverware had "Wynn" stamped on it. My wife wouldn't let me steal a fork.

Stayed at the Wynn this last weekend.
I was VERY VERY VERY impressed!The quality if workmanship and the products used in construction is very high.
This is not a hotel for the masses-there are plenty of places for that.
The 2.7 billion cost is well reflected in this wonderful new addition to Las Vegas.
I just posted a report in the Trip Reports section-please read it

I checked out the website and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a pool area. There is info on the spa/salon. One of the reasons I love to go Vegas is the pool scene on a Saturday afternoon. Anyone have info on a pool at Wynn?
Prncess 674 I stayed at Wynn this last weekend.The pool looks like a scene from an old Fred Astaire Set(think of Flying Down To Rio)but is a little small for the size of the hotel and might get very crowded on weekends.
It is lovely,but the Bellagio,Mirage,Mandaley Bays pools are better.

Prncess 674 I stayed at Wynn this last weekend.The pool looks like a scene from an old Fred Astaire Set(think of Flying Down To Rio)but is a little small for the size of the hotel and might get very crowded on weekends.
It is lovely,but the Bellagio,Mirage,Mandaley Bays pools are better.hmm, doesn't sound over whelming to make me want to stay sight unseen. Will try to schedule a walk thru next time I am in Vegas. I think I enjoy the pool scene at the Palms and HRH too much to risk a gamble on this new hotel.

Thanks for the report back!!

Craps & roulette seemd to be mostly 50$ min. We did venture into the high roller slot area just to observe, definitely not to play! :)

If there is one thing I really hate at casinos it's looky-loo "observers" who look down their noses at players and who derive their entertainment from standing there hoping people will lose. If you're not playing, go away.

As to the OP's question, I'm sure this will change over time, but yes, all I saw were $25 BJ tables last week, with PLENTY of availabile seats, so this will drop. We played a few hands and got out of there because there was just nothing special about the palce at all.

One cool thing, they have the new chips with RFID tags, so they actually track your bet hand-by-hand automatically. Hey, it's something different.

The whole hotel seems very much on the inside like the Bellagio, which is fine, I suppose, but we already have the Bellagio for that. It's also such a weird let-down from the sleek styling outside to the old-fashioned style inside.

The rooms actually seemed small and the bathrooms OK compared to what I've normally had in Vegas. Yes, plasma TV, but small ones! The style is better in the rooms than in the common areas, with great colors and sleeker styling. The elevators are really a problem, as there aren't enough for the traffic, and some were down when we were there..

The entrance area is not so much like the Bellagio is like a Circus after all the kids have thrown up. I didn't get it at all and it doesn't fit with anything else.

Meals were good, but the service was really spotty. I chalk this up to the fact that it is everyone's first day. I expect this will get better.

All-in-all, a very ho-hum entrant into a market that doesn't tolerate ho=hum very well at all. Nothing exciting about it at all, and very disappointing. I'll stick with The Palms.

Stayed at the Wynn this last weekend.
I was VERY VERY VERY impressed!The quality if workmanship and the products used in construction is very high.
This is not a hotel for the masses-there are plenty of places for that.
The 2.7 billion cost is well reflected in this wonderful new addition to Las Vegas.
I just posted a report in the Trip Reports section-please read it
I did read it and it was excellent. Thanks.

One cool thing, they have the new chips with RFID tags, so they actually track your bet hand-by-hand automatically. Hey, it's something different.
It's different, but like many changes over the years, it's one that's not good for the players.

Doubt I'll be doing much gaming at Wynn. I prefer it when the casino doesn't know exactly how much I'm betting.

There was actually one $5 blackjack table all afternoon this Saturday at Wynn - and it was at the poolside "Cabana Bar and Casino." This really surprised me, since I would think playing outside would be popular (the tables are covered, there are a lot of ceiling fans, and the drink waitresses come by very frequently, so the heat isn't an issue). The dealers liked it also, but they're waiting for outdoor uniforms (the indoor ones are long-sleeved and black). Other tables outside ranged from $15-50 minimum.

Inside there was one $10 table Saturday night, but with a continuous shuffle machine. Sunday there were a few $10 tables without the continuous shuffling.

I went to the Wynn buffet on Sunday. Had the Sunday dinner that started at 4:30 and the cost was $27.95. The entrance to the buffet did a good job of hiding the actual line to the cash register. You walk in and then find out the line is about four rows deep. Since I was early, the line had about 25 people ahead of me, about 10 parties or so. Each party walks up to the front of the line, tell the greeter the number in your party and she would direct you to an open cashier. After paying you go to the host who takes you to a table. The table already had plates on it allowing you to take the plate to the buffet stations.

The buffet itself, I think, tries to be similar to Bellagio. There were hand-tossed salads, a soup bar with about four different soups (what I recall was Manhattan clam chowder and cream of mushroom). There is a shellfish section with peeled shrimp (the shrimp were not as large as the ones served at Bellagio) and Alaskan King Crab legs. A pizza section with thin-crust pizzas (what I recall were pepperoni, cheese and bacon, and white cheese). They had Italian and Asian sections with the usual fare such as pasta, egg rolls, black bean riblets). The American section had potatoes, grilled asparagus spears, salmon, swordfish and chicken. There was an Indian section with very spicy shish kebobs and tandoori chicken along with Indian-style bread such as Nan. The center of the buffet was the grill and certainly the longest line of the buffet. They served prime rib, rack of lamb and grilled flank steak. Grilled salmon was also available. There was a sushi section but it looked like they only served sushi rolls. The meats at the grill were all cooked medium to medium rare. If you desired it more well-done and no end piece was available the carver will put your cut of meat on the grill. So this poor guy is running back and forth to the grill cooking and carving at the same time which was part of the problem for the long wait at the grill line.

The dessert section was somewhat limited especially compared with Bellagio. I had a chocolate mousse with brownie bits, and a piece of carrot cake. There were other desserts including cookies and hand-scooped ice cream (there were about eight or so different flavors). There were the usual sugar-free desserts. Overall, the desserts at Bellagio are much better and definitely presented better.

IMO the Bellagio buffet is still better. Bellagio has a lot more variety and presentation is much better. I feel the Wynn buffet is actually more similar in to the Treasure Island Dishes buffet.

Took a chance on the Wynn Lunch Buffet last Thursday, and was quite pleased. It was similarly priced to the Paris Buffet, but would pick Wynn over Paris every time from now on.

A couple of the highlights for me were the poke (surprisingly good), Rock Shrimp Ceviche, and the Tandoori Chicken. I was even happier to see that they had lychee-like fruit available in the dessert section (you have to ask, they're kept in a vase behind the counter near the ice cream toppings ... well worth it!)

As others have posted, Bellagio is still a better choice for dinner, but Wynn provides good variety if you're doing the buffet tour.

Edited to add: On my most recent visit (Oct '05) I noticed Wynn had Asian/Korean Pears in a bowl next to the sushi station ... first time I've ever seen these at a buffet. For those who might not be familiar, they have yellow-ish skin, about the size and shape of an apple, taste like an apple, but have the texture/consistency of a large water chestnut. Very yummy, and typically run $2.50 - $3 ea in Chinatown (Chicago.) You'll probably have to peel these with a knife, but they're well worth the effort!

Do they have crab-openers for the Alaska King crab?

Do they have crab-openers for the Alaska King crab?

Don't need them, they are all split in half length wise. Just pull the meat out and devour :p

Do they have crab-openers for the Alaska King crab?
mbstone-they were wonderful!Split in half and very big ang meaty.I am not one who usually likes crab legs in a buffet(usually watery with flavor and a mess to eat)but I made a big exception this time. :D

Just today, somebody told me that the Aladdin now has a better that is BETTER than the buffet at the Bellagio. Has anyone tried it recently? I know that it was just rated the best buffet in Vegas by one of the local magazines but knowing how some marketing can work, that can be a rotating title.

Just today, somebody told me that the Aladdin now has a better that is BETTER than the buffet at the Bellagio. Has anyone tried it recently? I know that it was just rated the best buffet in Vegas by one of the local magazines but knowing how some marketing can work, that can be a rotating title.

I sometimes feel Aladdin is better, they have more ethnic stations thus more variety. If you want seafood, esp. the crab legs, then Bellagio is the place. My personal taste ranks Bellagio and Aladdin even followed by Mandalay Bay, Paris, and TI.

I'll be there in a couple of weeks. Just looked at the restaurant menus posted on the Wynn website. Lots of variety...costing lots of money. The steakhouse is charging $46.00 for a serving of Dover sole. :(

I had breakfast/lunch today at the cafe by the pool and it was a little pricey (about $20 per person) but certainly within reason and enjoyed the meal and the service.

Nice to see that the menus are on-line now.

I agree with the restaurant by the pool - I think it's called the Terrace. It's nothing special.

Dinner at Bartolotta was wonderful. It's an Italian/Mediterranean seafood restaurant. I was pleased with everything I had: the octopus salad, sheep's milk ricotta ravioli, sea bream, and gelatto. Well worth the price.

If there is one thing I really hate at casinos it's looky-loo "observers" who look down their noses at players and who derive their entertainment from standing there hoping people will lose. If you're not playing, go away.

It is statistics that you do loose.

Was there earlier today (Sunday on Memorial Day weekend). The place was pretty busy; I parked across the street at Fashion Show Mall since the one way into the parking garage was ridiculously backed up. The taxi line was at least 200 people deep, reaffiriming that I will always rent a car in Vegas. (Especially when it cost me less than $15 a day for a Lincoln Town Car!) Blackjack tables this afternoon started at $15 a hand, there were other games like Carribbean Stud starting at $10 a hand.

I found it interesting that the casino doesn't even want to know who you are till you get at least 500 points on their card .. ie they don't ask for your ID or anything to sign up for the club. Tried to get the 500 pts on the cheap, but after a lot of time on the quarter machine I wasn't going anywhere fast and left.

I found it interesting that the casino doesn't even want to know who you are till you get at least 500 points on their card .. ie they don't ask for your ID or anything to sign up for the club. Tried to get the 500 pts on the cheap, but after a lot of time on the quarter machine I wasn't going anywhere fast and left.

That's strange, I was there 2 weeks ago and signed up for the Red Card at the Players desk, gave them my DL and got my card.

Can you book this - if so where/how??

If you are going to be a guest of the hotel call the concierge-otherwise if they will not take a reservation now maybe they will have a last minute opening.
There are many different restaurants at The Wynn btw.

Any report on the stay from you or anyone else?

Got an offer for two FREE night at Wynn Las Vegas!(2nd weekend in May)I cannot wait!

Just realized that this is the proper thred for above question.

Got an email today offering me $179 per night.

Don't know, I think I'd rather stay elsewhere for free!

Last time I stayed at the Wynn I paid 0.

Read Comp City (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0929712366?v=glance).

"Now through Sept. 6, we have a special room rate designed with one guest in mind: you! This exclusive rate is available Sundays through Thursdays. Make your reservations at (888) 320-WYNN or book online at wynnlasvegas.com. Use "Promotions" Code HS2005."

Ripped from FatWallet. I wouldn't pay that much, personally

$0 as mentioned above. $179 for the summer special Sun-Thurs in my opinion is too high a price to pay for Wynn.

In any other vacation destination paying under $200 anight for a 5 star property would be considered a bargain.
Cannot wait to go back to the Wynn.
And those "$0"room rates end up costing many thousands of dollars.

Best here is my trip report
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431704&highlight=wynn

Just got a TravelZoo email for a $169 rate at the Wynn:

http://www.travelzoo.com/Top20.asp?id=101192533

Hee hee hee-just got an offer for two more comped nights and $100 free play! :D

Hope Wynn has followed your suggestion about the coffee maker. Hate to see you walk from your free room down the elevator to get your own coffee!

Yes - you could read that as jealousy!

I have a very nifty Black and Decker travel coffee maker-so if i drive this time I will be taking it!

I am staying at the Wynn for one night in early August. The "Resort Room" was $299 and the "Executive Suite" was $300. This was at wynnlasvegas.com

Wow! Free stay!! All I'm looking for is a discounted one. I just booked 3 nights at $650 each for their parlor suite for an early Sept weekend. Anyone know of any sites that discount these rates? I tried all the usual suspects and no luck. The only break I received was paying the 650 for all three nights, as opposed to an even higher rate for my Fri & Sat.

Wynn Las Vegas

Wynn Las Vegas Grand Opening and Las Vegas 100th Anniversary Special

In celebration of the Grand Opening of Wynn Las Vegas and the 100th Anniversary of Las Vegas, we invite you to stay at Steve Wynn's new luxury resort, his dream of a lifetime, with exclusive introductory pricing. As an American Express® Cardmember your exclusive offer includes:
• Exclusive Introductory Pricing from $179 to $339
• Invited guest check-in
• Complimentary Upgrade on Arrival (based on availability)


Offer Valid 27 May 2005 - 6 September 2005

http://www.americanexpressofferzone.com/selects/OfferDetail.aspx?oid=13565&searchtype=basic&ctgryid=0&countrycd=us&regid=0&ctlgid=0

Thanks I was about to post asking for any Wynn Promotions....Can't wait to stay there!

• Exclusive Introductory Pricing from $179 to $339
• Invited guest check-in
• Complimentary Upgrade on Arrival (based on availability)




Looking at the site they actually show rooms as low as $169.

The Invited Guest Check-in. Does anyone know if these means you can use the Suite Tower entance and 'VIP' check-in if you have a Resort Room booked?

All I'm looking for is a discounted one. I just booked 3 nights at $650 each for their parlor suite for an early Sept weekend. Anyone know of any sites that discount these rates? I tried all the usual suspects and no luck. The only break I received was paying the 650 for all three nights, as opposed to an even higher rate for my Fri & Sat.

Did you see this AmEx Promo. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4238953#post4238953)? It goes through Sept 6th. My guess is that better September deals will be showing up later.

Wow! Free stay!! All I'm looking for is a discounted one. I just booked 3 nights at $650 each for their parlor suite for an early Sept weekend. Anyone know of any sites that discount these rates? I tried all the usual suspects and no luck. The only break I received was paying the 650 for all three nights, as opposed to an even higher rate for my Fri & Sat.
Are You a player?If so do not forget to get a players card(or ask to be rated)and check in with marketing/host before checking out.
Also Sept. can be a REALLY busy time in Las Vegas-so a suite on the weekends in the "hot new"luxury property for $650 a night is not bad.
See if the amex upgrade works for you.
I will be at the Green Vally Ranch for 3 nights on Laborday weekend-fri.and sunday comp'ed $79 for Sat-that is a great deal for that property so I am excited about that.

apudme,

I could kiss you! Just about to book a stay in Vega$!!

Not too bad, but not quite as good as the Amex Plat rates at Bellagio. Also, no brekkie credit like in Fine Hotels. I suppose this is setting things up for Wynn joining Fine Hotels?

For the period I'm looking at, it looks to be $40/$50 off the rates (amex rate/rack rate):

Resort 226/266
Panoramic 269/316
Tower Suite 303/356
Exec 255/300
Tower Parlour 383/450

Got to ask, we're sort of loyal Bellagio goers (especially given the Amex rate). Any views as to whether we'll like it or not?

Also, what to go for? I'm guessing the Tower Suite or Parlour? Any views as to what's best?

Not too bad, but not quite as good as the Amex Plat rates at Bellagio.
What Amex Plat rates are you talking about? Is this a general offer for all Amex Plats?

It's about $149 (IIRC) available pretty much all the time (execpt when Bellagio starts to fill up - i.e. for a convention). It's available to all Amex Plats. Must book via Amex Platinum Travel. Rate includes: Upgrade, welcome gift (usually fruit basket, wine, Boccelli CD), Continental Breakfast (or about $20 pp credit).

This is my dilema: Try something new or go with the tried and tested (and much cheaper option). That's why I'd be interesting to know if Wynn blows the socks off of Bellagio I've got a concern with Bellagio in that the new tower has opened and thus the staff/guest ratio will go way down.

This is my dilema: Try something new or go with the tried and tested (and much cheaper option). That's why I'd be interesting to know if Wynn blows the socks off of Bellagio I've got a concern with Bellagio in that the new tower has opened and thus the staff/guest ratio will go way down.

You should have a look at tripadvisor.com there are plenty of reviews and most had comparisons to Bellagio.

The Wynn is nice but I don't think it blows the socks off Bellagio, and the AmEx Plat offer sounds almost to good to pass up.

Looking at the site they actually show rooms as low as $169.

As low as $152 the week of July 18-22.

Just got a quote for first week of August (mid week):

BELLAGIO USD139 PER NIGHT DELUXE ROOM
RATE INCLUDES CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST
LATE 4PM CHECKOUT ROOM UPGRADE
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY 1200 NOON
CHECK IN AND GIFT

Wynn is 199 and then 299 (I presume for a resort room).

BTW, what are the best rooms to go for at Wynn? The tower or executivve suites?/

Just got a quote for first week of August (mid week):

BELLAGIO USD139 PER NIGHT DELUXE ROOM
RATE INCLUDES CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST
LATE 4PM CHECKOUT ROOM UPGRADE
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY 1200 NOON
CHECK IN AND GIFT

Wynn is 199 and then 299 (I presume for a resort room).

BTW, what are the best rooms to go for at Wynn? The tower or executivve suites?/


The Tower Suites Room is the same as a Resort Room I believe, but in the 'VIP' Suite Wing. The descriptions and size and picture are the same. I had a Resort Room last month, and I probably would not pay the extra to get the same room, except for the VIP check-in. So the Executive Suites room should be better. It is about 300 sq ft larger. When I looked at the first week of Aug the Executive was less the the Tower Suites room, which is strange.

The $139 at the Bellagio, is that the Plat AmEx rate, and do you have the regular rates for those same days? I'm trying to figure out if the AmEx is worth $400 to get those types of rates.

I'm trying to figure out if the AmEx is worth $400 to get those types of rates.
The Amex Platinum for Starwood is free the first year and only $30 for each subsequent year.

The Amex Platinum for Starwood is free the first year and only $30 for each subsequent year.

Thanks. Is that a Credit Card or an AmEx Plat Charge Card?

It is hard to believe it would come with the same perks as the $400 AmEx Plat card.

The Amex Platinum for Starwood is free the first year and only $30 for each subsequent year.
That looks like the Starwood credit card from AmEx. I believe the hotel rates mentioned above were for holders of the AmEx Platinum Charge card.

It's still an AMEX platinum. I don't see why the benefits would be excluded from that particular card.

It's still an AMEX platinum. I don't see why the benefits would be excluded from that particular card.

It is not the same. AmEx has several of these 'Platinum' credit cards. The Costco Rebate Card is free forever.

The AmEx Platinum Charge Card comes with a whole different set of perks including Airline Club admittance.

Why would anyone pay the $395 a year to get the same perks that you could get for free?

The $139 at the Bellagio, is that the Plat AmEx rate, and do you have the regular rates for those same days? I'm trying to figure out if the AmEx is worth $400 to get those types of rates.

From the website:


Deluxe room: $259
Saloon Suite: $350
Bellagio Suite: $450

The Amex rate is for a deluxe room, but you usually get a Saloon suite, if available (though not fountain view :( )

I figure we get $40 credit for breakfast, so in my book the rate is $99 per night. Through in the upgrade, and a gift (in the past it was a $50 gift certiificate, but lately fruit basket). Good deal in my book.

In the UK, we get Priority Pass, and that's worth $300 per year at least!

Can I book the Amex Plat rate online or do I have to call Amex? I really don't like their travel service. I'm usually a slave to the Hilton points so I just booked the Hilton for $129/$129/$99 for the nights of July 21/22/23 (I can always cancel)... I don't recall -- does the Bellagio do Starwood points?

1) You have to call.

2) Nope. No points affiliation that I know of.

I figure we get $40 credit for breakfast, so in my book the rate is $99 per night. Through in the upgrade, and a gift (in the past it was a $50 gift certiificate, but lately fruit basket). Good deal in my book.



Thanks Tim, you just made our day AND our honeymoon :)

We were looking at Wynn vs Bellagio for Jul 18-20. The best rate online for either hotel for those two nights was $170/night (average) and this is much better.

I love FlyerTalk.

From the website:

I figure we get $40 credit for breakfast, so in my book the rate is $99 per night. Through in the upgrade, and a gift (in the past it was a $50 gift certiificate, but lately fruit basket). Good deal in my book.


I got the fruit basket and 2 complimentary passes for ENTERING the spa and fitness center ($20). I haven't checked the fitness center but I bet it's very nice - I am probably going to trade these passes or give them away. The upgrade was to a deluxe room with a fountain view - very nice.

The breakfast coupon is $12 so 2 coupons are $24. Not quite $40 but I'll take it anyway! :> The coupons reference specific items (coffee or tea, juice, muffin/Danish/croissant) but who reads the fine print anyway - I just got whatever I wanted and asked the cashier to subtract $24 from my order. Here's one 'good' order: breakfast panini, large capuccino, cheese pocket (mmmm!!!), and large hot tea - $23.38.

Wynn's been open now about 2 months and initially I had read some newspaper comments about various 'bugs' needing to be worked out regarding service, some rooms etc :eek: . I've got a reservation for a suite in mid Sept weekend (no, we're not being comped-- paying $$$), for which we cancelled our FS stay. Hubby is very particular about everything being perfect, so any recent comments on stays would be welcome. I'm not too concerned about shows or buffets (as we don't partake), but more on the regular restaurants, rooms, pools & casino-- especially the sports/race book. Thanks in advance (checked FS & we can still get our suite back there if necesary ;) )

http://las-vegas-hotels.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g45963-d503598-Reviews-Wynn_Las_Vegas-Las_Vegas_Nevada.html

I'm in the property now. Standard "resort room," but I haven't found any significant bugs in the room setup, amenities, services or hospitality yet.

Room decor is not particularly inspired - lots of chocolate brown and light yellow. Beds are firmer than typical; it feels like there should be a mattress topper but there's not.

Floor-to-ceiling windows give an excellent view to the west from bed; but it appears there has been no window washing since the property opened, so they're somewhat gritty.

Room size is bigger than Bellagio, smaller than Venetian. There is expansive room for a king bed, a sofa and combo coffee table/ottoman, writing/work desk, 36" round table and two chairs, minibar console, and nightstands on both sides of the bed. The sofa is NOT a sofabed.

The 13" TV in the bathroom is cute and integrated into the wall, but it's a wall at a 90 degree angle to the vanity, so when you're shaving or exfoliating <grin>, it's awkward and not really as useful as if it had been mounted directly in front of you at the vanity. Wynn did correctly design a separate water closet, unlike Bellagio, which is great for multiple persons in the room.

The big plasma TV in the bedroom isn't big enough - only 32" or so when it should be at least 42" for a room this size. It's distant enough from the bed so as to be perceived as if it were a 19" regular tube TV. However, Wynn does provide all the local channels and some HD channels in true high definition. I watched Conan O'Brien last night in HD and it's significantly better picture quality than the regular channels.

AC is potent and powerful, and it must be because with giant windows you have a large heat potential in the afternoons. However, the system is not nearly as silent as other large hotels.

A king bed comes with two king pillows and a spare in the closet - that's chintzy in my book. The sleeping pillows don't even fill the headboard. Minimum should be four pillows plus the spare.

This entry is being provided via Wynn's wired internet access at a gouging $11.99 per day. Wired only in the rooms. No wireless signals of any kind available, even though I'm on the 36th floor and have that giant wall of windows. I suspect Wynn is employing some kind of blocking signal to prevent any computers from poaching any free wireless signals from the Strip.

All lamps are dimmable, and you can open/close curtains from bedside - but it's a stretch to reach the switches from bed, unlike Bellagio, where they were placed more properly only a few inches from the headboard.

I'm here for a few days so if you have specific questions I'll try to answer them.

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The big plasma TV in the bedroom isn't big enough - only 32" or so when it should be at least 42" for a room this size. It's distant enought from the bed so as to be perceived as if it were a 19" regular tube TV. However, Wynn does provide all the local channels and some HD channels in true high definition. I watched Conan O'Brien last night in HD and it's significantly better picture quality than the regular channels.

This entry is being provided via Wynn's wired internet access at a gouging $11.99 per day. Wired only in the rooms. No wireless signals of any kind available, even though I'm on the 36th floor and have that giant wall of windows. I suspect Wynn is employing some kind of blocking signal to prevent any computers from poaching any free wireless signals from the Strip.
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It's the only hotel is Las Vegas with HD channels (one of only a few hotels in the world). Also, the movie-on-demand system is an IP system that has never been installed in a hotel of this size before.

The price for internet is pretty standard for Las Vegas. Across the street at Treasure Island, the price is $10.99/day and that hotel is quite a few steps down from Wynn. Wynn is looking to add wireless internet (they didn't think there was a big enough demand for it when they were planning the hotel).

For my money, I still would go with the FS IMHO.

We stayed at the Wynn for two nights last weekend. I thought the standard room was well-appointed, though a little small considering the rooms now being offered at the Venetian and THEhotel. We tried to get into one of the bigger suites but they were fully booked.

We had a strip view which was great, though I didn't find the "waterfall" and fake mountain and forest in front of our room nearly as inspiring as the fountains at the Bellagio (we had a table near the terrace at Picasso restaurant with a perfect view of the fountains and found it spectacular). In fact, at night during the "light show" at the Wynn waterfall, we could hardly make out what was going on.

The Venetian is also building a new tower that was right in front of our room, so basically part of the view was a large construction site. Not necessarily the fault of the Wynn, but it was an eye-sore and worth mentioning.

As mentioned on another reply, the LCD flatscreen was disappointing, being so small. Whether you are viewing it from the sofa or from the bed, it looks incredibly tiny. The HD capabilities were a bonus, though at that distance, the difference between the HD and SD channels were not striking. I would have preferred a larger television set.

The bathroom was fairly nice, though the water pressure in the shower was rather weak, and it seemed like the shower controls were already worn. Not much about the Wynn bathroom that distinguishes it from any other Vegas 5 star hotel bathroom.

We didn't take our dinners at the Wynn, though we did have a quick lunch at the "fast food" restaurant near the casino. The name escapes me but they serve primarily burgers, sandwiches and salads. You order at the counter, take a seat and they bring the food to you. I would have to say, without reservation, it was probably the best "fast food" restaurant we have ever been to. Not only was the food fastastic, but the decor and furnishings of the dining room could easily be confused with that of a 5 star restaurant. They also provided real silverware, which was a nice touch.

We stopped by quickly at the pool, which we thought was great and not nearly as crowded as the Mandalay Bay pool, even on the weekend. Not a huge pool, but very lovely and well designed. We got there quite late in the afternoon and there were still plenty of unoccupied sunbeds. We also liked the fact that the sunbeds were cushioned, which should be the prerequisite for any top Vegas hotel, but sadly is not.

As a comparison, the night before we moved into the Wynn, we had stayed at THEhotel at Mandalay Bay. The room was much bigger, and arguably, more comfortable. Being a real suite, it had a separate living room and bedroom. They also gave us a room at the end of the hall, so besides the view of the pool from the living room, we also had a view of the Strip from our bedroom.

Both the living room and the bedroom had their own 42" plasma televisions, which were great (going from 2 plasmas at THEhotel to the tiny LCD of the Wynn room definitely didn't reflect well on the Wynn). The bathroom also had a small LCD screen which could be viewed from the shower, bath and toilet, unlike the Wynn, which was hidden from the toilet.

However, the number of TV channels of THEhotel were surprisingly lean, and noticeable channels missing included MTV and E! channel (we don't live in the States and always find those channels to be a hoot when we visit).

We did notice that they bathrobes were by Frette and perhaps the linens as well, so that was a nice touch. The bed definitely seemed more comfortable at THEhotel than at the Wynn, though the Wynn also has a very nice and luxurious-feeling bathrobe.

Overall, I think we preferred our room at THEhotel to our room at the Wynn, though I would say that the Wynn is a nicer hotel. We definitely preferred the casino, facilities, and overall experience of walking through the Wynn to that of THEhotel and Mandalay Bay.

Having said that, we had an excellent dinner at The Mix on the top floor of THEhotel. The table on the terrace with the view of the Strip was great, as was the food. Particularly lovely was the lobster salad and the foie gras, both done to perfection. I would say that after being disappointed with his Spoon restaurant at the Inter-continental Hotel in Hong Kong, that Alain Ducasse has certainly redeemed himself in our eyes with The Mix. We also loved the lounge next to the restaurant, especially the sofas on the terrace with a view that looks directly DOWN the Strip. Would have to say that it's probably the most impressive view we've seen in Vegas.

Having had nice stays at both THEhotel and the Wynn, and previously at the Venetian and the Bellagio, I would have to say our favorite hotel experience in Las Vegas would still be the Four Seasons.

We loved staying in the "Four Seasons Room", which is a suite, but without a separate living room and bedroom. Upon walking in, you are in the middle of a huge marble foyer, with very large walk-in closet on the right, and a spectacular marble bathroom on the left. Walking into the room, there are floor-to-ceiling windows overlooking the Strip, and because they haven't divided the living and sleeping areas into separate rooms, what you get is a very, very large and spacious-feeling room with uninterrupted windows and views of the Strip. Just a spectacular room, and I believe, with only one of its kind on each floor of the hotel.

To compare, my parents stayed in a One Bedroom Suite, which technically is supposed to be bigger in floor area and also in a higher room class than the Four Seasons Room. However, because there was a separate living room and bedroom, it felt much less spacious and roomy as ours. We would definitely choose the Four Seasons Room over the One Bedroom Suite anyday.

Overall, I think it would be hard to compare the luxury and "real" 5-star hotel experience of the Four Seasons to the other top Vegas hotels, which despite all the bells and whistles they provide, still seem a little "fake" to me in terms of their luxury and service. There really is no comparison.

However, staying at the Wynn will give you that "real" Las Vegas experience, of being right in the middle of the action and of having to walk through the casinos whenever you want to go somewhere.

Staying at the Four Seasons will give you that "real" 5-star hotel experience, but it would rob you of the Vegas experience. And yes, you can take a lift straight into the Mandalay Bay casino, but mostly the Four Seasons is so much quieter and refined that it's easy to forget you're in Vegas.

It's the only hotel is Las Vegas with HD channels (one of only a few hotels in the world). Also, the movie-on-demand system is an IP system that has never been installed in a hotel of this size before.

The price for internet is pretty standard for Las Vegas. Across the street at Treasure Island, the price is $10.99/day and that hotel is quite a few steps down from Wynn. Wynn is looking to add wireless internet (they didn't think there was a big enough demand for it when they were planning the hotel).

For my money, I still would go with the FS IMHO.

Is this a NexTV setup? OnCommand? LodgeNet? Someone else?

It's been a sore spot of mine from the beginning that many high end hotels charge for internet access. The internet is a utility, like electricity or water. It should be included in the room price. Eventually, when all the web is wireless, it will be. Wynn's average rate in its first 30 days of operation was $308; what's the difference between that and $318 with internet included, really?

One thing I didn't note earlier: Wynn has a crapload of amenities in the bathroom. Toothbrush, toothpaste, a pretty nice razor, hairspray, shoe mitts, mouthwash, even shoe polish, in addition to the standard amenities you see in all the resorts.

Also, Wynn skimped on the tub in the bathroom. It's a "soaking tub" with a waterfall faucet, but it's a white acrylic lining - not marble or even porcelain on steel. A pretty cheap feel in the middle of all the marble and stone in the bathroom.

Thanks for all the great (& detailed quick) responses!!. We'll most likely remain at the Wynn for this visit-- but will return to FS for our next trip out over Thanksgiving. We just figured we'd try it out. I'm a little concerned over the comments on the TV's as one of hubby's 'prime' activities is visiting the race & sports book then returning to the room to watch the games. (That's also why a suite is necessary... so I too can watch 'normal' tv (read NOT SPORTS in relative comfort. We won't be taking a computer so I'm not concerned about internet access, but I like the comments about the pool-- as while I really liked the FS pool, it was a bit small and the ajacent MB pools are always soooo crowded. We'll only be at Wynn for 3 nights, and perhaps things will be a bit better in the suites ???

Is this a NexTV setup? OnCommand? LodgeNet? Someone else?

It's been a sore spot of mine from the beginning that many high end hotels charge for internet access. The internet is a utility, like electricity or water. It should be included in the room price. Eventually, when all the web is wireless, it will be. Wynn's average rate in its first 30 days of operation was $308; what's the difference between that and $318 with internet included, really?

One thing I didn't note earlier: Wynn has a crapload of amenities in the bathroom. Toothbrush, toothpaste, a pretty nice razor, hairspray, shoe mitts, mouthwash, even shoe polish, in addition to the standard amenities you see in all the resorts.

Also, Wynn skimped on the tub in the bathroom. It's a "soaking tub" with a waterfall faucet, but it's a white acrylic lining - not marble or even porcelain on steel. A pretty cheap feel in the middle of all the marble and stone in the bathroom.

Someone else called Hospitality Network, part of the cable/telecommunications company Cox Communications. Hospitality Network is the dominant provider of VOD and in-room internet to the gaming industry. I beleive Wynn went with them because they are the only company that posts a profit from VOD, with the three you mentioned losing money every year. Also, the onther three companies have to join forces with a separate company to provide internet acces while Hospitality Network has the capabilities to do them both.

I had the Executive Suite a couple of weeks ago. It did have a 42 inch plasma in it. For me the room was nearly perfect but I think I am a lot more low maintenance than the average FlyerTalker. Agreed that the windows indeed were dirty on the outside. I was only there for one night and only spent time at the card tables in the casino which was nice (especially since I was a winner).

I think I am a lot more low maintenance than the average FlyerTalker.

1)Can you clarify "low maintenance"?

2)Was the suite comped? If not, rate paid all-in.

3)Tell us about the poker room.

but I think I am a lot more low maintenance than the average FlyerTalker.

I don't believe it... a low maintenance FlyerTalker w/r/t hotels... can't be... :D :D

I had the Executive Suite a couple of weeks ago. It did have a 42 inch plasma in it. For me the room was nearly perfect but I think I am a lot more low maintenance than the average FlyerTalker...Considering some of the places that you have told us that you need to go to, I can believe that.
I was only there for one night and only spent time at the card tables in the casino which was nice (especially since I was a winner).But it appears, according to the locals and from what we saw one evening, that the slot machines at the Wynn are very tight. Congrats on getting a piece of them at the tables.

1)Can you clarify "low maintenance"?

2)Was the suite comped? If not, rate paid all-in.

3)Tell us about the poker room.

Low maintenance because I was also quite pleased last week at the Holiday Inn Express in Brownsville, Texas. The rate for the executive suite was $299, I don't remember the taxes. I didn't play in the poker room...I won most of my cash via full house at Let It Ride.

Considering some of the places that you have told us that you need to go to, I can believe that.
But it appears, according to the locals and from what we saw one evening, that the slot machines at the Wynn are very tight. Congrats on getting a piece of them at the tables.

Let's say I won back the money I had lost the previous week during the CRD.

1)Tell us about the poker room.

I can take that one; I was there on the poker rate, $129 M-Th and $199 Fri-Su.

Wynn's poker room is offset from the main casino, so it's very quiet. About 30 tables, running limit hold'em of $4-8, $8-16, $15-30, and up. Also no-limit of $2-5.

Wynn is not nearly as busy as Bellagio, which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you're looking for. For instance, Wynn might have only one $8-16 table going in the evening while Bellagio might have 3 or 4.

Wynn has very polite pit bosses that use the PA system without screaming over it, as they tend to do at Bellagio.

Wynn has their lists up on a screen, which is also channel 29 on the room TV, so from your room, you can easily see what's going on downstairs.

Wynn has pretty comfy chairs and they're seating only 9 at a table, instead of 10 at Bellagio. Wynn also includes portable drink table thingies that are convenient. Unlike Bellagio, you can order food to your poker table and eat while playing.

The proportion of grizzled locals seems higher at Wynn than Bellagio, but like Bellagio, it changes over to loose, drunk frat boys as the night progresses.

I can take that one; I was there on the poker rate, $129 M-Th and $199 Fri-Su.

Wynn's poker room is offset from the main casino, so it's very quiet. About 30 tables, running limit hold'em of $4-8, $8-16, $15-30, and up. Also no-limit of $2-5.

Can you compare the "rakes" at the two hotels?

Can you compare the "rakes" at the two hotels?

$4 max but taken sooner than Bellagio; time payment at $30/60 and above. More info from allvegaspoker.com:

Rake at $4/8, $8/16.
$4 max.
$1 @ $10
$1 @ $30
$1 @ $50
$1 $ $80

Rake at $15/30.
$4 max.
$1 @ $30
$1 @ $70
$1 @ $120
$1 $ $200

Rake at $30/60 on up is timed.

No-Limit Holdem: Yes
$1/2 - $100 min / no max.
$2/5 - $200 min / no max.
$10/20 - $500 min / no max.

We received a mailer for a three day comp stay at the Wynn "Including Food and Beverage" (RFB). Wow! I didn't think my play there came anywhere near qualifying. We were greeted by the Wynn limo at the airport and housed in the Tower Suites. The Tower Suites is a private area of the hotel with private check-in desk and elevators, a private pool area with two swimming pools, a private restaurant, and a private entrance into the high limit Baccarat area. Basically you need not ever meet any of the non-elite casino patrons (for example, if you are famous or reclusive). The south 1/3 of the hotel consists of the Tower Suites area and is connected to the regular hotel hallways by key-card access. In other words regular guests can't get to the Tower Suites area. Tower Suites guests can get to the regular hotel hallway and back with their room key (this is the only way to get ice without calling room service). The Tower Suites room was identical to the standard Wynn Resort Room (king bed, desk, sofa, plasma TV, powered curtains, etc.) I noticed other, larger suites on the floor, you can see them at the Wynn web site.

Our room had a bowl of fruit and a nice welcome note from the hotel manager.

Comp City says if you are RFB you can go whole hog including ordering Dom Perignon. I don't have the cojones to do that, besides we want to get invited back. We ate mostly room service and at The Buffet and the Terrace Pointe Cafe. One night we reserved a table at the S.W. Steakhouse. We asked one of the Purple People (the purple-jacketed, earphoned security staffers) for directions. He said, "I used to call it the Southwest Steakhouse until someone corrected me." The SW is downstairs near the waterfall. I arrived wearing shorts and they were nice enough to hold my table while I returned to the room to change. Our table was in the front row facing the waterfall/lagoon. We were pleasantly surprised in that there was a brief but entertaining sound and light show using the waterfall as a projection screen. Needless to say, the meal was out of this world, and so was the check I signed.

We were treated so well I was pinching myself. I must have saved Mr. Wynn from drowning or dragged him out of a burning building in a previous life.

:) :) :) ^ ^ ^

GREAT report mbstone,

mind me asking what your approx. play was to get this offer ? were you a previous desert inn patron ?

[I know of a number of previous desert inn players have have gotten all sorts of juicy offers at the Wynn]

Thanks... Michael

this is the only way to get ice without calling room service

Ice appeared in my room after turn down service. I didn't request it.

Wow, what a deal! We are in the Tower Suites but paying over $500 a night for it. (I guess we're really low rollers). Nice to hear about getting ice on the floor via the regular rooms, as I really hate having to call up just for ice. We'll be there this weekend (Fri-Sun), so I'll let you know what kind of treatment mere mortals get in the Tower Suites :D

We are back from Wynn & got the mere mortals treatment. Our Parlor Suite in the Towers (room 1715) was $650 a night and yes it was decorated beautifully-- especially the bath. The windows are indeed still very dirty and even more noticable with the bright LV sun shinning through. There are no coffee makers in the room ( :mad: ) so we had to call up each day for the small pot of coffee ($12 + delivery + service charges). We did see there was complimentary coffee offered in the Towers restaurant in the am, but alas we saw that on our return to our rooms in the am, as we are very early risers. The room was very dry, although on the last day we were told we could have ordered up a humidifier. Thanks for the tip on the ice, it was much easier to walk to the main rooms elevator than call up for it, and no it was not delivered with turn down service-- which only occured on one of our 3 nights :confused: - we did not call for it and assumed since we didn't get it the first 2 nights it wasn't offered-- but did get it the final night (when she also told us about the humidifers). Hubby was a bit perplexed by the remote for the flat screen tvs and actually had to call someone up to get the tv workiing when I was out. Also the tv in the living room is at a perpendicular angle to the couch, so it doesn't make for comfortable viewing. It was nice having the 2 private Towers pools and still having access to the main hotel pools just below. We ate at the Cafe, Red8 and Corso and had very good meals at each, hubby especially liked being able to get 'takeaway' from Red8 back up to the room for noshing while watching the games on Sat & Sun.
All in all we liked the hotel and would stay again, although they quoted us a rate of $850 for the same room over Thanksgiving weekend-- when we have a suite + $135 each day dinner at the 4 Seasons for $580 (from the general 4 Seasons website!) and Wynn wouldn't match or offer any sort of discount when we asked. Wynn's locale was really great for shopping, although the walkway over LV Blvd is not yet completed to the shopping mall. It appears there is another shopping mall being built at the Venetian next door, which will also be accessible via walkways at some point in the future.

Anyone else get comp'd at the Wynn for October?

I just got a letter in the mail offering two free nights at the Wynn in October.

I was there in August, and I didn't gamble much at the Wynn. I spent about 3 hours one night playing blackjack at $25/hand, with some streaks taking me up to $300 hands (I increase the bet when I win a hand). OTher than that I sat down at other tables a few times and left after only a few hands as the tables were cold.

I'm not rated at any other casinos.

I'm just curious if they comp'd lots of people to fill up the hotel for a slow month or if somehow I'm rated now...

never heard that, but october is usually a slower month and they may be just trying to biuld a steady set of guests. nice work on the comp though - enjoy it.

Got a similar offer. In my case, the dates were Oct 2-5 only.

I was only there once, played a couple of hours around $100/hand.

They told me at the time (June) that they were looking for $300/hand for room comp and $500/hand for RFB.

Perhaps these standards are getting relaxed...the word seems to be out that this place is not head and shoulders above their high end competition as everyone initially assumed it would be.

They may have had a lot of guests over the summer who played very little but were willing to pay the room rates for a look at the hot new place in town. Surely, they would rather have people in there playing (even if not at $500 a hand) than they would non gamblers paying for the rooms.

Received the same offer in the mail yesterday. I was at the Wynn in June and am hardly what one would consider a high roller....indeed, far from it. I was completely taken aback by the comp offer.

I have been recieving letters like these from Wynn once or twice a month,even got a phone call thanking me for playing from a live host.
Problem is-these "free' rooms can get expensive!I actually prefer staying at the Renaissance across the street and walking through the Wynn on my schedule.
I have had pretty good return on the money wagered at Wynn-and I like the people he has working for him.

I've been getting offers too (2 free nights) but have not been able to take advantage. Slow time for Vegas but busy time for me :(

Anyone else get comp'd at the Wynn for October?

I just got a letter in the mail offering two free nights at the Wynn in October.

I was there in August, and I didn't gamble much at the Wynn. I spent about 3 hours one night playing blackjack at $25/hand, with some streaks taking me up to $300 hands (I increase the bet when I win a hand). OTher than that I sat down at other tables a few times and left after only a few hands as the tables were cold.

I'm not rated at any other casinos.

I'm just curious if they comp'd lots of people to fill up the hotel for a slow month or if somehow I'm rated now...

My friend got a similar offer, with even less BJ play. His was for 2 midweek nights in Oct.

I'm looking forward to setting up an account there soon. ;)

IMO Wynn offers are now even better than Harrahs, not that the properties even belong in the same sentence. :D

Pretty short notice, but it's available using promo code HM2005. Sun - Thu appears open for this rate.

Also under the promo: Parlor suites at $359 and Salon Suites at $559. For these rooms, you also get private check-in, special in-room amenities, preferred reservation status and private dining.

http://wynnlasvegas.qrs1.net/0U/HM2005.html?loc=3

I've never been to Vegas. The Venetian sounds pretty incredible. Can you compare the 2?

For me, Wynn beats Venetian because of Wynn's poker room and because it's newer. Venetian has its fans because rooms are larger (although Wynn is plenty big), but that's about all I've ever heard about Venetian. You can sometimes score Venetian through Priceline and/or Hotwire for $99. Venetian is the only 5-star strip hotel that has appeared on Priceline in the past year or two.

Hi,

Was considering Alex and Wing Lei at Wynn Las Vegas.

Does anyone have any first hand experiences at these restaurants ?

The tasting menu at Alex looks quite interesting.

Thanks in advance,
--- Michael

I would rank Alex as the best restaurant in town now.

QL

I've eaten at Wing Lei. The food was good but I didn't feel it was very good value for the money. I've eaten at far better places in LV. Ever been to Commander's Palace? It's GREAT!

I really liked the SW Steakhouse with the waterfall sound-and-light show. QL, could you elaborate on Alex? Is it worth the long walk past the banquet rooms to get there?

Had dinner at Alex in August. It was great and the tasting menu was excellent. The service and food is comparable to what you would normally get in a top French restaurant in Europe.

Compared to restaurants like Picasso and Le Cirque in Bellagio, the food and service has more of a European/French feel. Ladies with seated in a chair (not on a sofa) get a foot-stool for their handbags. The lay-out of the room and the double-story ceiling give a very airy/spacious feel to the room unlike the intimates surroundings of Picasso and Le Cirque.

Looking forwards to the new Alan Ducasse restaurant at the FS for a full blown european style french restuarant

SW is also excellent. Alex is not past the banquet rooms; it's before them. The menu is similar to the old Renoir (same chef) but the room is much nicer. They have added a fabulous high-end sommelier's tasting if you can fade $375 a person.

Ducasse is opening a restaurant at Fiesta Station?

QL

Thanks for all of the advise and info.

Since this will be dinner after Avenue Q @ Wynn on Sunday night, decided that SW Steakhouse would be a nice choice. Alex would be a bit much for me at 10:30PM.

Looking forward to SW this weekend !

---- Michael

I personally think the Wynn blows, especially compared to the Bellagio. It might have been an off day, but should a luxo-casino-buffet ever have an off day? Food was blah, service was worse.. my buddy and I vowed never to go again.

If you want ethnic variety, then Aladdin would be your choice. In terms of quality though, Bellagio still takes it.

Bellagio, Aladdin, and Paris are my top 3. I would rather go to 5 others before the Wynn.

But IMO of course :)

IMO the Bellagio buffet is still better. Bellagio has a lot more variety and presentation is much better. I feel the Wynn buffet is actually more similar in to the Treasure Island Dishes buffet.

My co-worker and I tried the Wynn buffet a few months ago, and both agreed that the Bellagio was still better (and a few $ cheaper, IIRC). I also found that they seemed to crowd too many tables into the Wynn seating area.

Just today, somebody told me that the Aladdin now has a better that is BETTER than the buffet at the Bellagio. Has anyone tried it recently? I know that it was just rated the best buffet in Vegas by one of the local magazines but knowing how some marketing can work, that can be a rotating title.

We just got back from Vegas last week and ate at both the Bellagio and the Aladdin buffets. We had eaten at the Aladdin buffets many times before and was very pleased with the food again. Great split crab legs, tasty desserts, and fresh food.
It was our first time at the Bellagio and will never go there again. Food was not fresh and the variety just could not compare. I'm a chicken meat person and there was not one piece of chicken to be found, if you can believe it. I ended up eating only crab legs and fried rice. The service was cursory, like they felt that we should be so lucky to be there. Never again! Plus it was more expensive. Even kids (mine were 7 and 11) were the same price as adults $26.95.

I've found that the Bellagio buffet tends to have more "exotic" foods than other buffets and that can really dictate how much somebody likes the buffet. Some people prefer more customary foods, and thus find a better selection at buffets like the Aladdin. Whereas if you're looking to trying something that you usually don't have, I've seen the Bellagio offer venison, quail, pheasant, kobe beef, etc... So, to my mind the difference is a matter of taste.

I did try the Wynn buffet over the New Year's weekend, and thought it was very good. I was there for brunch, so it's a bit hard to judge since I kept mostly to breakfast foods. I did like that the carving station was slicing off huge chunks of bacon. (nothing says Vegas to me like all-you-can-eat bacon) I did feel that the variety was smaller than you would get at Bellagio or Aladdin. As noted, the variety of desserts is not as large as at the other casinos, but the ice cream station is excellent.

I did the Aladdin's buffet on New Year's Eve and for breakfast on New Year's Day. It was very good, as usual, and I do like some of the variety they throw in. They had cotton candy at the dessert station for dinner, and they had smoothies for the breakfast.

I'd have trouble deciding on which was better amongst Bellagio, Aladdin, and Wynn. I'd have to say they were pretty equal to me, with Bellagio getting the nod for desserts and exotic-ness, with the Aladdin getting credit for consistency. I'd have to put the Wynn up there with both of them in general. I happen to think the Mandalay Bay buffet is pretty good, as well - a very solid performer.

I'm a chicken meat person and there was not one piece of chicken to be found, if you can believe it.

Now that you mentioned it, you're right, there are very few chicken dishes at Bellagio.

I tried Wynn again about 4 weeks ago and it was better. The prime rib was quite tasty and the crab legs were meaty. Salads were fresh but the desserts were still humdrum. Judging by other posts it seems they are still inconsistent in their food quality.

I also tried the Mirage Cravings buffet for weekend brunch and found it to be rather good which is a surprise considering I found their dinner buffet to be quite bad about 6 months or so ago.

I also tried the Mirage Cravings buffet for weekend brunch and found it to be rather good which is a surprise considering I found their dinner buffet to be quite bad about 6 months or so ago.

I agree that the new Cravings buffet was decent (I believe it just reopened in Sept/Oct after a revamping), and they did have a good variety of items. My preference for the Bellagio may be the more exotic items they offer, but possibly it is being downgraded with the change in ownership of the property. I fear this may happen as well with a number of other properties (Paris, Rio, etc) that Harrah's has now acquired.

I had the Bellagio lunch buffet on Monday; the Wynn lunch on Tuesday. All in all, I'll give the Wynn the nudge. The restaurant is nicer, the service a bit friendlier and the buffet itself a bit more refined. They're both pretty much on par with the same offerings, I just thought the Wynn was better.

Just got back from the Wynn and as I mentioned in related post elsewhere am definately not a buffet person but somehow always manage to get dragged to one. However, four of us did eat at the Wynn for dinner on two occasions during this trip and as picky eaters were very pleased with not only the food but the service. We received the buffets as comps but I would have definately paid after trying it the first time...but free is always good. :-)

I have tried other buffets in Vegas in the past and while nothing really stood out all tended to be okay with naturally some better than others. While not as extravagant as the Wynn or Bellagio, the "local" places such as Suncoast and Orleans do a very nice buffet and the Seafood Buffet at the Rampart (J.W. Marriott Resort) was very good.

Hmmm, after re-visiting my past buffet experiences maybe I really am a closet buffet lover, LOL!

Wynn is currently running a special for new slot club members, earn 50 slot points for a free buffet. Normally 500 points. Maybe this will make the buffet taste a little better!

I was just at the Wynn Buffet last week for supper and thought it was wonderful! Great choices, nice king crab and large shrimp! Although I thought they didn't have enough choices for dessert, what they did have was great! Tiramisu & chocolate mousse were excellent. We did the players card promotion, get 50 points and they give you two free buffets. Although, they did say on the weekends you need 500 points. We had the supper buffet to maximize our value. Going back in April and I hope the promotion is still running, my husband can get his card this time and we can have another nice buffet.

Although I thought they didn't have enough choices for dessert, what they did have was great!

Then try this one next time:

NUTELLA CREPE

I know that Nutella is not very common in the US, but in Europe it is the best you can get! A friend of mine from Denver visited Germany some years ago and fell in love with Nutella.

Greetings from Germany,

Oliver

A high-rolling friend has recieved two tickets for a VIP, invite only superbowl party at the Wynn... Since I am not her #1 pal, she's invited someone else... Now, I'm looking for my own set of tickets. Anyone have any extra???

I've read that the Casino's are getting around the superbowl broadcast rules by having 'invite only' parties.
Thanks,
Steve

A high-rolling friend has recieved two tickets for a VIP, invite only superbowl party at the Wynn... Since I am not her #1 pal, she's invited someone else... Now, I'm looking for my own set of tickets. Anyone have any extra???

I've read that the Casino's are getting around the superbowl broadcast rules by having 'invite only' parties.
Thanks,
Steve

best suggestion would be for your "high-rolling" friend to just ask her host for another ticket. I can't imagine that would be a problem. Another solution would be to contact a Wynn host yourself; though, you would have to be a rated player at Wynn or at least have another host they can call to verify your play.

A high-rolling friend has recieved two tickets for a VIP, invite only superbowl party at the Wynn... Since I am not her #1 pal, she's invited someone else... Now, I'm looking for my own set of tickets. Anyone have any extra???

I've read that the Casino's are getting around the superbowl broadcast rules by having 'invite only' parties.
Thanks,
Steve

Nearly every casino has "big game" parties. It shouldn't be too hard to get an invite, since all it costs the casino is a chair and a couple of beers and sandwiches.

They've always had VIP parties. The NFL decided to badger them into ending the pay-entry parties for the unwashed masses.

QL

IMHO, both the Bellagio and the Alladin have been sliding over the last 2 years or so. Not as many choice, not at many staff and the food isn't replaced as often. Alladin has been fairing much worse. One salad station has been closed (they have two) each of the last 3 times I was there.....including CES week when Vegas is PACKED! No reason other than trying to save a dime. Very disappointing.

Then try this one next time:

NUTELLA CREPE

I know that Nutella is not very common in the US, but in Europe it is the best you can get! A friend of mine from Denver visited Germany some years ago and fell in love with Nutella.

Greetings from Germany,

Oliver


Nutella is widely available (and has been for years) in the SF/Bay Area -check out the supermarket shelves (you just have to know where to look :p )

Going to Vegas for my sons 21st and his grans 70th and My silver wedding - Son wants to treat Gran to the Wynn (can only afford resort suite) - where can I book the best deal and should I book early or hang back - Im going to try the Bellagio -my chances of a deal on a suite in July are?? our dates are 25th July to 5th August - only need 2 nights anytime in that period for the Wynn Thanks for your help Gwen

Check this link early and often:

http://www.fatwallet.com/t/63/483868/

Wynn has no promos listed currently, but forum members are good about posting new promos pretty quickly.

Wynn's website will likely have best rates over any travel website. Mon-Thu stays will always be less than Fri or Sat night rates, even in late July/early August.

I usually find deals to Vegas (flt + hotel) thru Travelocity. Prices change sometimes in the same day or the next time u try it. Good luck--we liked the Wynn and the resort rooms are nice. THEhotel at Mandalay Bay is another good choice. For the same price u get a suite.

Going to Vegas for my sons 21st and his grans 70th and My silver wedding - Son wants to treat Gran to the Wynn (can only afford resort suite) - where can I book the best deal and should I book early or hang back - Im going to try the Bellagio -my chances of a deal on a suite in July are?? our dates are 25th July to 5th August - only need 2 nights anytime in that period for the Wynn Thanks for your help Gwen

I would call them and explain the situation. You are visiting in a relatively slow period (it is HOT that time of year) and they will be glad to have you. Weekdays, of course, will be less expensive.

If that doesn't work why not try Venetian. Every room is really a suite, and if youre looking to save a few dollars youre just about guaranteed to get a high end suite at Venetian for less than you would pay at Wynn. JMO

Nutella is widely available (and has been for years) in the SF/Bay Area -check out the supermarket shelves (you just have to know where to look :p )

It's everywhere - including Costco.

-Vincent

Ever since Mam walked into the Wynn she thought itwas her dream too far!! thats why he wants her to go in that one - she has dumped her penchant for the Bellagio since seeing Wynn - and we wont go back to the Venetian after an incident with a dodgy window seal (or something) which meant we felt as if we slept with a 747!! complained at 4a.m - complained when no one turned up by 6a.m - finally arrived after my 3rd trip to the desk at 8 am - the maintenance guy - said why hadnt we called earlier as it was horrendous!! - front desk offered us a free upgrade room - which as it was our last night - we couldnt (and wouldnt) have taken - we got a snotty attitude and a poor discount!! so none of my dollars are being spent there again!!! Thanks for the help guys!!

Nutella is widely available (and has been for years) in the SF/Bay Area -check out the supermarket shelves (you just have to know where to look :p )

In the safeway I shop at in Berkeley, it's stocked next to the peanut butter.

Starting to get pricey. Weekday dinner for Wynn Buffet (on a Thursday) now $31.95, don't think it is worth it.

Interesting read, I have been a couple of times at Las Vegas and stayed the last time at Bellagio, we found the Bellagio Buffet to be very good, we tried it for Breakfast and Dinner, good variety of dishes, good service as well as good quality, pricey if you are in Las Vegas, not pricey if you compare it to anything else.

Now something else: I am going back to Las Vegas this year and I will be staying for a change at the new Augustus Tower at Caesars Palace, anybody has had experience with the Buffet at Caeasar's palace?

Interesting read, I have been a couple of times at Las Vegas and stayed the last time at Bellagio, we found the Bellagio Buffet to be very good, we tried it for Breakfast and Dinner, good variety of dishes, good service as well as good quality, pricey if you are in Las Vegas, not pricey if you compare it to anything else.

Now something else: I am going back to Las Vegas this year and I will be staying for a change at the new Augustus Tower at Caesars Palace, anybody has had experience with the Buffet at Caeasar's palace?

I tried the breakfast buffet here on a weekday. There was no wait and this buffet is different as you pay your bill after you eat. Lots of free newspapers on one of the counters if you like to read when you eat. The selection was not bad but Caesars has a really small serving area. There are 2 omelette stations so the waits there aren't too bad. If I remember correctly the price was around $16.50, kind of pricy to me. The location is nice and you can see views of the pool while you eat. My server needed more training.

Then try this one next time:

NUTELLA CREPE

I know that Nutella is not very common in the US, but in Europe it is the best you can get! A friend of mine from Denver visited Germany some years ago and fell in love with Nutella.

Greetings from Germany,

Oliver

Me being German as well, I can only second that - every American who one get's his hands on Nutella will love it forever. I am living currently in Canada and you get it in the large supermarkets, it is very popular

Me being German as well, I can only second that - every American who one get's his hands on Nutella will love it forever. I am living currently in Canada and you get it in the large supermarkets, it is very popular

Hate to break the news to you, but nutella is not that hard to find. I used to eat the stuff all the time growing up, was a staple in college and available at pretty much every supermarket I've ever shopped at including Costco and Sam's Club.

Hate to break the news to you, but nutella is not that hard to find. I used to eat the stuff all the time growing up, was a staple in college and available at pretty much every supermarket I've ever shopped at including Costco and Sam's Club.


Good for you, so looks like you liked it a lot, I wasn't familiar about the availability in the US, it is always a hit or miss with stuff from good "old" Europe, in particular groceries, because the US market has very strict import rules, right?

Do you get those 50 points just for signing up or do you have to play for those 50 points?

I sometimes feel Aladdin is better, they have more ethnic stations thus more variety. If you want seafood, esp. the crab legs, then Bellagio is the place. My personal taste ranks Bellagio and Aladdin even followed by Mandalay Bay, Paris, and TI.

co-sign on that one. I go between the Aladdin and Bellagio depending on what I'm more in the mood for. I haven't had Madaley Bay although I'll get that chance in December but have had the Paris and T.I. which are both very good.

Anyone have experience with upgrades at Wynn Hotel? Specifically FHR upgrades. What should I expect or ask for?

Anyone have experience with upgrades at Wynn Hotel? Specifically FHR upgrades. What should I expect or ask for?You should be expecting a one-category upgrade (just look on their website to see the categories), so you should ask for more probably.

Out of curiosity, what is your FHR rate and for what dates? I hate that you have to call AMEX to check FHR rates at most hotels.

Thanks for the response. Still not sure what to ask for, but yes it is a pain to call for rates on FHR. Still, a great rate at $161 including breakfast, early check-in, late check-out and some kind of upgrade.

My husband and I usually take 1 or 2 trips to vegas each year with another couple but this summer have considered taking the kids out for something different. Is the resort room at the Wynn large enough for 2 adults and three kids, ages 17, 13, and 11 or would be have to get a larger room there? Didn't know if the room with two queen beds had a small sleeper sofa also? Thanks for any info.

Not in our experience. possible two rooms work better for you and the kids, also?

IMHO, a big "no" since you have 3 kids with you that are not 3 tiny tots. This is basically a YMMV type of scenario, since I do know sleeping bags on the floor are acceptable for some --- but, for our 3 kids (12, 9, 5) we would never consider cramming all of us into a double/double room at Wynn (which personally do not feel all that large to me). I agree that 2 connecting rooms would be a preferable option (or a suite connecting to an extra bedroom to create a 2 bedroom suite).

If I were taking 3 kids to Vegas I think the Wynn would be very low on my list of preferences. Is there a particular reason you want to go to the Wynn? The Wynn seems very adultish (for lack of a better word). I would think someplace like Mandalay Bay with the pools would seem a better choice.

And I agree with the other posters. 5 people in one of the Resort rooms would not work very well.

The last time we went to Vegas, we stayed at the Wynn and we loved the hotel and this would be our hotel of choice if we could get a decent rate. I definitely want to stay on the strip. We would stay at TI or another nice hotel if we got a good offer in the mail. We plan to swim so a kid friendly pool is a plus but we also plan to see a cirque show, go see some sites(possibly hoover dam, grand canyon, etc., downtown light show). I have walked thru Mandalay Bay but never walked thru the pool area. I will have to check it out online (thanks for the idea). My main concern is making sure that we get a nice hotel, on the strip with adequate space for all five of us to stay. Our kids being ages 17, 13, and 11 definitely require more space than they used to a few years ago. Thanks for your input! :)

The Mandaley Bay complex: specifically get a room which are all suites at "The Hotel"-----vey nice and much better for the age of the kids you mentioned.

I'd probably recommend Hawthorn Suites (with their 2-bedroom, 2-bath suites with an additional sofa bed in the living room at reasonable rates) or another similar hotel were it not many steps below the Wynn.

OP : what is your budget per night ? There are many many nice suite options in Vegas --- but, it might be a bit easier to make suggestions if you have a per night max (as well, is it midweek or weekend ?) If your budget is $600 to $1000 ++ per night, I think we could all come up with a good number of recommendations on the strip. :D

It's been a few years, but the rooms at the Venetian were massive. If you wanted to have your children in the room, I'd see no trouble fitting them in there.

That said, I think that a connecting room or 1 bedroom suite would be a better option.

Also don't just wait for cheap offers to come in the mail. Check out the individual hotel websites for deals. In addition, many hotels will match rates found on Travelocity, Hotels.com, Expedia or Orbitz - and you'll save the service fee charged by the website.

The Wynn oh my well I will try and be nice here...I can not imagine with all the hotels in Vegas that you would take them here. I do not think that they would even let you have 5 people in a room and the pool area is very adult oriented. I can not think of one thing that there would be for them to do at this property. I really hope you think of someplace else more to there liking and save the Wynn when you can leave them at home.
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Rio
MGM Grand
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The above hotels have plenty of things that they would enjoy doing.

As others have said, negative on Wynn. Venetian will for sure accommodate the family.

At the other end of the spectrum, Excalibur double rooms will fit an entourage.

Not sure when "Summer" is to you but Harrahs has $59 room deal in August. For me I'd rather step down a notch (if the cost of two rooms at the Wynn was too much) and have two rooms and preserve my sanity. Five people one bathroom-No way !!

Not sure when "Summer" is to you but Harrahs has $59 room deal in August. For me I'd rather step down a notch (if the cost of two rooms at the Wynn was too much) and have two rooms and preserve my sanity. Five people one bathroom-No way !!

Fully agree!

The sofas in the rooms don't convert into beds at the Wynn. They do at the Rio and the room is bigger though.

But I'd say that Duchy has the best suggestion, two cheapish rooms attached, and leave the center door open.

I wouldnt go with THE hotel, the suite that I saw was tiny. Overall space was much smaller then the room at the Wynn, and the bathroom was joined onto the bedroom, so they'd be walking through your room all the time to get there.

I agree. Nothing for kids this age to do at Wynn and would definitely do 2 rooms anywhere. The benefit for kids this age staying at the Wynn, is the mall is just across the street. That is where they would probably want to be , because as said, pool at Wynn very adult oriented.

The Wynn oh my well I will try and be nice here...I can not imagine with all the hotels in Vegas that you would take them here. I do not think that they would even let you have 5 people in a room and the pool area is very adult oriented. I can not think of one thing that there would be for them to do at this property. I really hope you think of someplace else more to there liking and save the Wynn when you can leave them at home.
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Venitian
Rio
MGM Grand
new york new york
aThe above hotels have plenty of things that they would enjoy doing.

LOL! Ok, when we were there, it was December and there was no one swimming. The pools were awesome but I really didn't think about the fact that it wasn't well suited for kids. Would be fun to lay out by the pool for me, but I think the kids would like a pool that would be fun to play in and swim in. And ofcourse there is the issue of the "adult" side to the pool there at the Wynn. Would hate for them to stumble upon that. I have three boys. I will probably look into another option on the strip that has a better pool and room option. When I have made my previous trips to vegas, we have never used the pools. This has never been a priority. We like to gamble, eat out, etc. I don't think that I would consider Excaliber or Harrahs though. Excaliber's casino is so dark and the hotel is old. I really prefer one of the nicer propertys like listed in this post. I'ts really hard to step back after you have stayed at some nicer places if you know what I mean.

LOL! Ok, when we were there, it was December and there was no one swimming. The pools were awesome but I really didn't think about the fact that it wasn't well suited for kids. Would be fun to lay out by the pool for me, but I think the kids would like a pool that would be fun to play in and swim in. And ofcourse there is the issue of the "adult" side to the pool there at the Wynn. Would hate for them to stumble upon that. I have three boys. I will probably look into another option on the strip that has a better pool and room option. When I have made my previous trips to vegas, we have never used the pools. This has never been a priority. We like to gamble, eat out, etc. I don't think that I would consider Excaliber or Harrahs though. Excaliber's casino is so dark and the hotel is old. I really prefer one of the nicer propertys like listed in this post. I'ts really hard to step back after you have stayed at some nicer places if you know what I mean.

Ah, back to sanity... :D :D :D

As mentioned, Mandalay Bay would be a good option. Also don't forget Bellagio - it's very Wynn-like (Steve Wynn built 'em both) and it has a massive multi-pool setup that is far more kid-friendly than Wynn (though not as Disney-like as MB).

I'm with other posters: Three teenage boys? You MUST have two bathrooms.

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