Mileage Run Deals - DEN - FRA Lufthansa $137 RT

Here you go:
Outbound on 4/27
I have gotten the return priced on 4/29 and 5/3

Not sure if you can get it for other outbound dates!

Good Luck

Paul

Lufthansa agents deny knowledge of such a fare. Lowest is around $800, they say. Where did you find it?

Sorry I did not get more details but I found it right as I was leaving work. I found it on Expedia and Orbitz. I am still getting it on Expedia for outbound 4/27 and return 4/30 for $137 although the other dates are not coming up!
Fare Basis Code: WAXM11

I can't find this anywhere.

I just got it on Orbitz at 8:44pm EST.

$137 Apr 27-Apr 30

I see it on Orbitz, put in those exact dates and it come up

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Eureka! I have Found It!

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Saturday, April 27, 2002. Lufthansa # 447 depart 5:35pm Denver
Sunday, April 28, 2002 arrive 11:15am Frankfurt

meal: Dinner, cabin: Economy, equipment: Airbus A340, duration: 9h 40min, miles: 5039

Tuesday, April 30, 2002, Lufthansa # 446 depart 1:05pm Frankfurt, arrive 3:35pm Denver

meal: Lunch, Economy, Airbus A340, duration: 10h 30min, miles: 5039

Web Only base airfare $55.00, tax $82.23, service fee, $5.00, total trip cost $142.23


[This message has been edited by TravelManKen (edited 03-25-2002).]

Just found it on Expedia..depart 4/27 and return 5/7. To good to be true?

I am *extremely* tempted to ticket this and use some miles to get down to DEN. Has anyone ticketed this yet?

The fare is $55.00 while taxes are $85 and some. That's hilarious.

Another question though, how in the world did you find this???? Great find!

I tried to book it on Orbitz and got the response that no seats were available. Anyone actually been able to book these tickets?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Explore:
Lufthansa agents deny knowledge of such a fare. Lowest is around $800, they say. Where did you find it?</font>

Still coming up @ 9:45 pm with $55 airfare + $82.23 tax for 4/27 outbound 4/30 return on Expedia and Orbitz. I'd book it if I could fly it...

*** Fare Basis Code: WAXM11 ***

1. Travel Restrictions: Outbound must begin on/after 23apr02 -08may02 return completed by 15jun02 midnight

2. Complete Travel By:15JUN02

3. Day/Time Application: No restriction

4. Penalties: Cancellations any time ticket is non-refundable. Changes any time changes not permitted.

5. Blackout Dates: No restriction

6. Child Discount: No chd discount

7. Other Discount: None

8. Stopovers: Not permitted

9. Advance Reservations/Ticketing Restrictions: Tktg within 24 hours after reservations all segments must be confirmed

10. Maximum Stay: 30 days after departure from origin

11. Flight Applications: Any lh flight

12. First Travel Date:23APR02

13. Minimum Stay: Return first sunday after departure outbound transatlantic sector

14. Seasonality: No restriction

15. Last Travel Date:8MAY02


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...or passengers swim.

I got the ticket purchase to go through on Expedia.

Two tickets DEN-FRA 4/27-4/30 for total $287.95.

Now that is a good mileage run value.

I am still deciding whether to ticket this. But just a note, AA is offering some "cheap" Denver sale fares so non-Denver FTers may want to take a look at this. It's on aa.com under NetSavers.

Has anyone definitively confirmed that this fare WILL accrue miles???

Great deal. Too bad it is the wrong airline for me! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by satori:
Two tickets DEN-FRA 4/27-4/30 for total $287.95.

Now that is a good mileage run value.</font>

Only if they do indeed give mileage credit on that fare.

Fare only appears on US expedia sites, and those in other countries cannot book it on their versions. US site requires US-based credit card and delivery address. Shows for return on 30th also. Fare rules show both 55.00 and 555.00 fare versions.

It is posted as W booking code so I am assuming it accrues miles. Even if it turns out not to be a mileage earner it might fit into my plan of getting a low-priced UA LHR-SYD ticket which requires flying out of LHR by 6/30.

I'll let you know what happens.

Just booked it for two. Not many seats left on the plane. Should be a fun quick trip. Have to get to Denver now!!

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Booked one ticket for myself. $150 total including expedia paper ticket fee. Outbound 4/27 & return 4/30.

Price just changed for my dates right after I bought ticket. 9:04 MST

Edited to insert above comment.

[This message has been edited by chemist661 (edited 03-25-2002).]

Just nabbed 2 seats for a 5/3 - 5/6 trip (looks like the next weekend is open too!)

Got one for myself - 4/27 to 4/30. Total is $150.49 with the paper-ticket delivery fee. Is this a real deal? Guess I'll find out with a few others of you. I've printed out everything and it all looks good. I really didn't need a mileage run at this time of the year but it looked like too much fun to pass up. Maybe this will be a chance to meet other FT'ers.

someone probably miskeyed the fare, so act fast and expect to see it MIA tomorrow; many other dates still work Mon-Thu (eg 5/2-13). in the mean time there are some decent connecting fares from the east coast on NW, eg WAS-DEN for 217 rt (tax incl). great find and thanks for sharing.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Kurt:
I really didn't need a mileage run at this time of the year but it looked like too much fun to pass up. Maybe this will be a chance to meet other FT'ers. </font>

Yeah -- perhaps LH will make it easy to spot the FT'ers flying on the $137 mistake fares by reassigning them all to middle seats for the very long trip http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Assuming this flight accumulates UA mileage, I will make 1K faster. (meets my goal of 1K before my birthday in June http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif) Did everyone check their e-mail from Expedia? Mine was a bunch of "rubbish" with some words mixed in.

I think expedia must be on to it. Clicking on the various options brings up the fare but "pricing problem" is the response I get when I go to book.

[This message has been edited by fuzzywzzy (edited 03-25-2002).]

I was just messing around looking at fares and I found this at Expedia under the "Fare Compare" section for Denver. When it showed $137 for the low end for Frankfurt, I just followed the link and saw the flights.
Alas, I can't go but I hope you all have fun and the tickets remain valid!

I booked a fare at 11:45pm CT at the $137 rate + the Expedia.com handling fee. Now its time to get from Dallas to Denver on the cheap.

Outbound on 4/27
Return on 4/30

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[This message has been edited by doctajay (edited 03-27-2002).]

I just e-ticketed two tickets DEN-FRA on Orbitz.

Had to pull some strings to use a US based credit card, but it was worth it.

4/27 outbound
4/30 inbound

I think this is turning into an FT gathering...

How about all you guys send this starving student the $137 and I'll argue with you on the phone as to why I wont honor a $55 miskeyed ticket?
And if you are a MP member, I'll even put you on hold for a while and play 'Rhapsody in Blue' while I take my dog for a walk.

Just tried 4/27 and 4/30 on Orbitz and get $642. Rang up the Expedia folks and they were not able to do anything. Eventhough the agent also was seeing the $137 fare, we were still unable to book it.

it's gone?

%$&*#@

Just picked up the 4/27 - 4/30 on Orbitz for $137 ($150). Too strange. Went back to check again. And ...gone. Up to $642. I'm soooooo confuuused.

[This message has been edited by fuzzywzzy (edited 03-25-2002).]

I still see it on Expedia. It's no longer on Orbitz.

btw, if you booked on Orbitz, you can check your itinerary (including seat assignment) on Worldspan at:

https://mytripandmore.com/default.asp

Well, it worked for my Orbitz bookings.

Say Chemist661,

How did you manage to change your dates after you booked?

Would love to do the trip a tad later.

I had initially forgotten to print the fare rules when I booked my ticket. When I tried to pull up the fare again, it disappeared. I managed to pull up the fare a short while later for my same dates & I then printed up the fare rules. Tried 5/3-5/6 just to see if it would fare out, no go.

I got it 4/25-4/30 with e-mail confirmation, at 11:00 p.m. West Coast time.

Anyone have any cheap hotel recommendations for a 1st timer?

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good find ultypt. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

www.hrs.com (http://www.hrs.com) lists many hotels in any price category. The site is reliable. You still pay in the hotel. During weekend you should get a lot of cheap (+ good) hotels.

Is this also available from FRA to DEN ?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Is this also available from FRA to DEN? </font>

Nope...The lowest fare FRA - DEN appears to be $400's.


[This message has been edited by BoulderHyattHopper (edited 03-26-2002).]

I found it only from DEN. Flights beginning in FRA were much more expensive.

the fare was only available for purchase 3/25 and is thus now gone.
It was a good price, enjoy your flights guys...

LUCKY PEOPLE, If only I did not go party in SF lastnight!!!

I would also appreciate info on inexpensive hotels. Also, if anyone sees a good fare from the Bay Area (Northern CA) to Denver, give us a heads up! Thanks for the inspiration to get out and go!

It's all set for me. Tickets have been issued, seats assigned and they put in my AC Aeroplan number in there.

So how many of us are going on this trip and on what dates?

I am doing:

LH 447 4/27 DEN-FRA (25 D & E)
LH 446 4/30 FRA-DEN (43 H & K)

How many others are on these (or other) flights?
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Edited to add seat numbers. Also, I called LH to change my seat assignments and confirm that everything is good to go. Shouldn't be a problem with LH. Also, according to LH seats in rows 32 to 42 (something like that) are all under airport control, so there should be lots of seats to choose from at check-in.

Also, they say Row 31 is the unaccompanied minor row while Row 46 is the last row.

[This message has been edited by keithguy (edited 03-26-2002).]

I am in for

4/23 DEN-FRA
4/30 FRA-DEN

Looks like 4/30 will be a FTer plane.

Seat 45K on the way back. Is that the last row or what? At least I have window seats not middles both ways.

Anyone anticipate problems from LH when they discover the error? I am wondering before buying the ticket to DEN.

Same flights as Keithguy. Outbound 4/27 seat 43C, return 4/30 seat 38G.

Edited to add seat #'s.

[This message has been edited by chemist661 (edited 03-26-2002).]

Was curious what this would book at today so brought it up on Expedia. Priced at over $5000 for coach. I think they are having a little trouble with their pricing.

We'll be on flight 447 on 4/27 seats 38 C & D and on flight 446 on 4/30 seats 36 F & G.

Anybody got insights into what will be a good way to spend two days in Frankfurt?

We've booked (still can cancel if something better comes up) at the Best Western Alexander em Zoo (think I'm remembering right). Described as a boutique neighborhood hotel hear downtown. 4 starts and only 80 Euros (I'm guessing add taxes). Picture looks very nice.

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Forgot to say how thrilled I was to catch this one. I live in Sacramento and missed the bargain San Jose/Paris deal by about 10 minutes a year or so ago.

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venk:

Row 45 is the next-to-last row. I would avoid row 46 because it looked like limited recline. Row 45 is not bad because all; the Y lavs on the 340-300 are behind row 29 so you don't get any lines in the rear of the aircraft. The only thing back there is the galley.

Has anyone here tried checkmytrip.com? Lufthansa gave me an Amadeus PNR and it worked like a charm, including excellent seat maps (much better than those on united.com).

Has anyone received their paper tickets from Expedia yet? I'm hoping mine come Thursday.

I probably won't stay in Frankfurt. I've been wanting to drive over to the Nurnberg area to check out where my family's ancestors came from back in 1872 so this is the perfect opportunity. Anybody rented from Sixt at FRA? Is a VW Golf up to the A3 autobahn or should I upgrade to something bigger? Even I knew that a Lupo wouldn't cut it.


[This message has been edited by Kurt (edited 03-27-2002).]

It's all e-tix for me, so I am all set with that.

Just wanted to post something from LH's Customer Service Plan for those that are worried about LH giving them a call:

"2. Honour the Agreed Fare after Payment

Once payment for the ticket has been made, no fare increase will apply for the date, flight and class of service booked for the ticketed itinerary. However, any change in fees, charges and taxes may be subject to additional payment or refund."

The full plan can be seen at:

http://cms.lufthansa.com/de/fly/en/pas/0,3048,0-0-392619,00.html

Keithguy -
How did you get an e-tix to book? Did you book it via LUF site or Orbitz directly?

Just wondering. I still haven't gotten my paper Expedia tickets yet.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doctajay:
Keithguy -
How did you get an e-tix to book? Did you book it via LUF site or Orbitz directly?

Just wondering. I still haven't gotten my paper Expedia tickets yet.

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I booked it via Orbitz - I believe it was the only one that would e-ticket it for me. I don't have a US address so it was the only way to go for me.

Got my paper tickets from Expedia today. All looks good. The fare break up shows $27.50 each way. It is booked on W fare code.

For people looking for things to do around Frankfurt, there is a Lufthansa bus you can take or rent a car to Heidelberg, a really beautiful town. A one day trip will be quite sufficient.

Kurt, the Golf will be fine assuming you are not looking for an automatic transmission but you will not be in the left lane for too long and if you are keep an eye out on your rear view mirror!

I have had good luck with renting from Sixt in Europe but haven't rented at FRA.

Perhaps we should all have a tail-gate party on the flight back on the 30th as we all seem to be in the last 10 rows or so. I seem to be the only one going earlier on the 23rd. I actually did have to do a business trip 24-26!

Greytop,
How are you getting to DEN? I am coming from Oakland myself, albeit my dates are 4/25-4/30.

Expedia sent me the FedEx tracking number - but it is not in the FedEx system.

My fingers remain crossed.

Received paper tickets today. $55 base & $82.23 taxes, total $137.23. What a deal!

Got my tickets via FedEx this afternoon - they look fine to me. I called Expedia to make sure things looked OK from their end - again, no problems. The agent was cool - she even congratulted me for being "speedy" and getting a good deal.

I'm in row 23 DEN-FRA and 22 FRA-DEN (aisle seats in the middle block) - maybe I should switch seats to sit in the back with the fun people. Might try for row 30 (exit row) at check in but those seats are next to the toilets so they aren't that tempting.

Sixt's Golf is a 5-speed so it should be OK. A BMW 316 is also available for a bit more $ but it's still just a 1.6 liter engine, not a 2.5 like we're used to in the U.S.

We had an Opel Corsa 1.2 in Italy a few years ago - great gas mileage but you had to drive very defensively on the Autostrada to avoid p*****g off the fast cars in the left lane and still pass trucks in the slow lane.

So here's what I've gathered so far:
(I hope you all don't mind, just copying from all the replies)

Outbound
4/23 [1] - venk
4/25 [1] - 36D tiviander
4/27 [9]- 43C chemist661, 38C&D Greytop {is this right, there's an aisle between C & D}, satori, 23 Kurt, 45A doctajay, fuzzywuzzy, 33F&G keithguy
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Inbound
4/30 [11] - 45K venk, 38G chemist661, 36F&G Greytop, 36E tiviander, satori, 22 Kurt, 23F doctajay, fuzzywuzzy, 43H&K keithguy

Anybody else? Did I miss anybody? Looks like everybody is coming back on the 30th.

I would not recommend row 30 as in addition to the nearby lavs, row 31 is for unaccompanied minors (so says LH), while I don't expect children travelling alone to be rowdy, hearing/smelling motion sickness is not too fun. :-)

[Edited for new seat assignments]

[This message has been edited by keithguy (edited 03-29-2002).]

[This message has been edited by keithguy (edited 04-01-2002).]

Kurt,
Sixt and all other car rentals are quite big in FRA and located in arrival hall 1A.

I'm not sure if you order a Golf (or any other specific car) that you'll get it. Normally the contract is Golf OR SIMILAR. This category is all right to drive to NUE. Other FTers posted excellent hints about driving above.
BTW, You've the same issue ("similar car") with the other car rentals, too.

Quite a group we have going. I have been assigned seat 36D on 4/25 and 36E on 4/30.

Got the tickets today via FedEx. Yay!

My tickets showed up today via FedEx. Woo-hoo!

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My tickets showed up today via FedEx. Woo-hoo!

Outbound 4/27 - Seat 45A
Return 4/30 - Seat 23-F

Whoops - hit the wrong button!
[edited to add seat assignments]




[This message has been edited by doctajay (edited 03-28-2002).]

Does anyone anticipate not getting mileage credit on UA for this trip?

I just looked at United's mileage+ page and it said 100% mileage flown credit on LH flights between U.S. and Germany. Does this mean codeshares, all flights or what? (I am new to the United+ group , so please bear with me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif )

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tiviander:
I just looked at United's mileage+ page and it said 100% mileage flown credit on LH flights between U.S. and Germany. Does this mean codeshares, all flights or what? (I am new to the United+ group , so please bear with me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif )</font>

I think this would include all flights (codeshares and those on LH metal).

We should all get miles on Mileage Plus (Aeroplan in my case) for this flight. It's in a valid LH fare class, so I don't see any problems.

Here is a perverse idea I am thinking of trying...getting UA upgrade certificates for LH transatlantic and presenting them at check-in to see if I can get an upgrade. Apparently, LH often honors upgrades for even low fare codes during check-in. Although, they might try to get me arrested for trying to upgrade this fare http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Venk,
You are the guinea pig on this one. Since you are the first one out, try to post your outbound experience so the rest of us know what to expect! The upgrade plan is just crazy...enough to work!

Kurt:

if you hold a LH SEN card Sixt will automatically upgrade you to a Merc C-Class. Not the fastest of cars but good enough (210 km/h top-speed) to survive on our autobahn. If you re really looking for some action, Sixt has a promo going to rent the brand-new SL-Class for only EUR99/per day. That should give you some fun and more time on the left lane. Enjoy!

For the person looking for a cheap fare from the Bay Area, there are $198 RT SMF - DEN. I think this is caused by the pressure from Frontier.

Does anyone know why this cheap fare existed?


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Got my paper tickets and it says seats assigned at airport. My expedia confirmation has specific seats. Anyone else notice this??

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My paper tickets from Expedia already had seat assignments.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Greytop:
Does anyone know why this cheap fare existed?
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Data entry error where $555 was entered as $55 for the fare seems to be the best guess. For a while the fare details included both $55 and $555 and the booking engines picked up the first number.

Sorry I missed this one, but thanks for posting it. Next time I might be able to pounce.

Have fun in FRA

mpc1

My Expedia receipt(sp?)has seat assignments, but the ARC ticket stock itself has no seat assignments and says "check-in required".
Thanks for mentioning the Frontier fares, Greytop, I had spaced out on SMF as a departure point.

It's funny that a lot of us (me included) will be paying more to get to Denver than the DEN-FRA segments.

That upgrade plan is evil. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif I wish I had upgrade certificates to even try this. But why would LH honor UA (or other Star Alliance) upgrades? Would LH go back to UA and ask for some kind of compensation or is it a reciporcal thing where LH elites can upgrade on UA flights in return?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by keithguy:
But why would LH honor UA (or other Star Alliance) upgrades? Would LH go back to UA and ask for some kind of compensation or is it a reciporcal thing where LH elites can upgrade on UA flights in return?</font>Well, you cash in, what, 20000 miles per way of your UA miles and UA issues the upgrade voucher. If LH accepts the voucher, they will give it to UA and get compensated for it. It has noting to do with any reciprocal upgrade priviledges.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by curt:
Originally posted by keithguy:
But why would LH honor UA (or other Star Alliance) upgrades? Would LH go back to UA and ask for some kind of compensation or is it a reciporcal thing where LH elites can upgrade on UA flights in return?</font>Well, you cash in, what, 20000 miles per way of your UA miles and UA issues the upgrade voucher. If LH accepts the voucher, they will give it to UA and get compensated for it. It has noting to do with any reciprocal upgrade priviledges.




I thought these upgrades were Systemwide Upgrade certificates provided for UA elites, rather than upgrading miles (which you can usually upgrade only from full fares - which the LH fare is not)?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by keithguy:

I thought these upgrades were Systemwide Upgrade certificates provided for UA elites, rather than upgrading miles (which you can usually upgrade only from full fares - which the LH fare is not)?</font>

The SWUs cannot be used on non-UA metal. But you can upgrade LH flights with UA miles (10k miles one way for full Y fare and 20k miles one way for M and B fares. The other fares, technically, cannot be upgraded).

The normal procedure is to book the LH tickets with an upgradeable fare, call UA for them to request an upgrade with LH, and when approved by LH, UA will send the certificates (specifically for LH flights) to you which you then present physically at check-in.

You can ask UA to send you the miles upgrade certificates without them making the upgrade request and try to use them at check-in at whatever fare you have. I have only heard anecdotal reports that it works sometimes with non-upgradeable fares but I think it is extremely unlikely unless it is an overbooked situation, and there are plenty of business seats and there aren't any LH Senators (elites) that they can upgrade instead and you have a certain natural charm that check-in agents like.

So is everybody ready? I have my tickets to DEN in hand. Does anyone want to get together at DEN before departure? I am getting into DEN at 11:23am so I have lots of time to spare. Unfortunately, I don't have any Star Alliance status/RCC membership, so no lounge access for me.

Also, I was looking on ITN/seat maps, and the 4/27 outbound still has quite a few seats, but on the 4/30 outbound:

LH 446 F6 A6 C9 D9 Y4 B4 M4 H4 Q0 V0 W0 S0
- looks like 4 seats left to sell in economy, the Travelocity seat map shows only 2 assignable seats (in econ) left besides the unaccompanied minor row (row 31). Maybe they'll be giving operational upgrades for this flight. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Rats. Can't use my ticket. Have to work. Bought mine on Expedia. Any advice folks?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by venk:
The normal procedure is to book the LH tickets with an upgradeable fare, call UA for them to request an upgrade with LH, and when approved by LH, UA will send the certificates (specifically for LH flights) to you which you then present physically at check-in.

You can ask UA to send you the miles upgrade certificates without them making the upgrade request and try to use them at check-in at whatever fare you have. I have only heard anecdotal reports that it works sometimes with non-upgradeable fares but I think it is extremely unlikely unless it is an overbooked situation, and there are plenty of business seats and there aren't any LH Senators (elites) that they can upgrade instead and you have a certain natural charm that check-in agents like.</font>

If you have LH miles, the upgrade can work much easier as LH allows upgrades on any fare-base. Just swing out 20000 LH-miles each way (US-adress required, 35000 otherwise), and you sit upfront with a confirmed upgrade. Just checked: There are at least four available award-seats in C on 4/23 (DEN-FRA) and 4/30 (FRA-DEN), but only two award-seats available either on 4/25 and 4/27 (DEN-FRA).

If you don't have LH-miles, LH FTL and SEN can use their miles for others, so if you know someone with that LH-status and enough miles at hand, you may be able to trade with them...

Greetings - Dirk

[This message has been edited by djohannw (edited 04-11-2002).]

FWIW, LH does honor UA Int'l Sales Upgrades at the gate only, space available, on any fare, regardless of what fares are mentioned as applicable on the cert (which apply to UA only).

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum105/HTML/006550.html

Have we determined who among us will be the first to fly this trip? I would be very interested to hear what their experience is at the LH counter in Denver and points onward. Let's hope they welcome us with open arms, as we of course know they should http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

So far looks like I will be the first by travelling on the 23rd. Will try to post on the 24th about the experience. Since I have to be in FRA for business, I will most likely pay if they ask for anything additional and wait to sort it out later with Expedia/LH.

Edited to add:

Unless they have already caught this at their rate desk and flagged reservations made at this price (in which case, I assume they would have contacted us), the agents at the airport won't blink an eye. The pricing listed on the tickets themselves have often varied for me in the past based on some refunds, adjustments, vouchers, etc. So since the ticket has a valid fare code, it won't raise any flags at check-in unless this has already been flagged. Even the ticketing agents on the phone often cannot find the fare for fare codes that are no longer offered. Of course, my travel might trigger this flag for those following me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Or the mass of people on 27th might!

[This message has been edited by venk (edited 04-16-2002).]

I don't think the price is any big deal. I have flown their auction ticket flights several times: $240 SFO-Berlin; $260 SFO-FRA. The ticket agents usually just congratulate me on a good find http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

venk,

I hope you have a good flight today. Let us know how it goes...

Also, looking at ITN today, the inbound on 4/30 shows:

LH446 4/30 - F3 A3 C0 D0 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0
Looks like business cabin is sold out, first has 3 seats to sell. I called LH and they said it's overbooked by 30. (hmm...)

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Anyways, here's an updated list for those on the flight:

Outbound
4/23 [1] - venk
4/25 [1] - 36D tiviander
4/27 [7]
chemist661: 43C
Greytop: 38C&D {is this right, there's an aisle between C & D}
satori
Kurt: row 23
doctajay: 45A
keithguy: 33F&G
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Inbound
4/30 [10]
venk: 45K
chemist661: 38G
Greytop: 36F&G
tiviander: 36E
satori
Kurt: row 22
doctajay: 23F
keithguy: 43H&K

Let me know if there are any changes. Feel free to say 'hi' on the plane. I'll be the one in the aisle. I get into DEN on 4/27 at 11:23am and my companion gets in at 3pmish. Let me know if any of you want to get together for lunch or something.

Sorry about you not being able to go, fuzzywuzzy... the fare rules did say no changes/refunds. But maybe you can save the ticket and try and get it changed after the flight (maybe they won't pull up the fare rules...)

Anyone have any experience on what Lufthansa provides in terms of compensation for a voluntary bump?

Also - I recently signed up for Miles&More and have a temp # but no card. All I need to do is provide that # at check-in correct - and I will be goody-good.

For one who dosen't fly LUF - should I have these miles credited to a UA Mileage Plus account I haven't used - but would probably use before any more flights on LUF.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doctajay:
Anyone have any experience on what Lufthansa provides in terms of compensation for a voluntary bump?
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June 2000 - VDB from a FRA-ORD flight. Received DM1200 (around US$800 at the time) in LH vouchers. Rebooked FRA-PHL in Y (op-upgraded to C at gate) (then booked on TW to STL).

On the ORD-FRA earlier that month, they were offering DM1800 and a later (evening) flight; but, they didn't need anyone in the end.

Cheers,
Lawrence

Thanks for the info on VDB compensation. Does anyone have any idea why it's even overbooked? None of the other LH flights are even close to being overbooked (ORD, SFO, PHL, LAX, EWR, JFK, IAD). All of them have 9s across the board on ITN. And April 30 is a Tuesday, not the busiest time for travelling.

But FRA-YVR shows Y1 on the same day - that's kind of odd too. Is there some kind of German holiday or something or is there something special about DEN & YVR (cruise season starts in YVR, but that's all I know).

It just seems really odd that the 4/30 flight is overbooked. I can't imagine there's that many people who snagged the cheapo fare (it was up for probably less than 24 hours and you had to enter specific dates to get it).

doctajay, do you have any miles on your UA Mileage Plus account? If you have a few, you might as well credit the LH flights into that account. I am crediting mine to my AC Aeroplan account which has a mere 2,000 some miles.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by keithguy:
Thanks for the info on VDB compensation. Does anyone have any idea why it's even overbooked? </font>

In my opinion it's too early to say that. Lufthansa "adjusts" availability 14/7/3 days out by cancelling all reservations that have not been ticketed and cannot be ticketed any more in the corresponding booking-class.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">None of the other LH flights are even close to being overbooked (ORD, SFO, PHL, LAX, EWR, JFK, IAD). All of them have 9s across the board on ITN. And April 30 is a Tuesday, not the busiest time for travelling. </font>

My guess would be that they hope lots of you 55$-pax do not really fly with them???

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Is there some kind of German holiday or something
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No, no holiday to speak of. The next "important" holiday in Germany (not sure if everywhere, but at least here where I live) is May 8th.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">It just seems really odd that the 4/30 flight is overbooked. I can't imagine there's that many people who snagged the cheapo fare (it was up for probably less than 24 hours and you had to enter specific dates to get it).
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I guess it's not overbooked once you get there. 30 is not really much for that aircraft, especially with those unticketed reservations not sorted out yet.

Greetings - Dirk

I received 1200 DM in vouchers for being bumped last July on a FRA-EWR flight. They flew me to SFO the next day and I received a hotel room and meal vouchers.

OK, must be my medication...of course there is a German holiday next to April 30th: May 1st is labor-day over here and therefor a public holiday in all of Germany. No idea why this escaped me...sorry!

Greetings - Dirk

Hi folks,

Just to let you know made it to FRA today with the $55 ticket and with UA mileage upgraded to business class. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

They didn't bat an eyelid at the ticket or the upgrade request at the check-in counter.

Edited to add:

The miles for this outbound segment have already been posted to my UA MP account.

[This message has been edited by venk (edited 04-24-2002).]

What a great deal! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I am still fairly new to the forum:

"ITN" is the American Express Webpage, right?
How can you get the booking numbers for a specific flight?

I thought there was no such page where you would find the exact numbers for all classes of travel.

Am I wrong?!?

I just checked with www.flyaow.com/class.htm (http://www.flyaow.com/class.htm) and the lower fares show 9's for the return on April 30. I am ready to go to FRA!

I noticed that too as well... I called LH and they still say it's overbooked by about 30... *shrug*

With any luck, I should be making my way towards Denver in about 6 hours.

Lets hope my flights to/from DEN goes well. I am doing a run to DEN. 3 segments each direction. Lets hope the LH return needs volunteers. I could use some more voucher money. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Setjet:
I am still fairly new to the forum:

"ITN" is the American Express Webpage, right?
How can you get the booking numbers for a specific flight?

I thought there was no such page where you would find the exact numbers for all classes of travel.

Am I wrong?!?</font>


Welcome to the boards,
either use the flyaow.com link above, or set up a profile with ITN and set it up for expert mode. Then always sign in first, then click on the flights tab, and it will show you the availability broken down into fare classes each time....

Unfortunately, work has called and I am unable to use my great LH ticket. I am disappointed, but hopefully there will be another score and I will finally be able to meet some of the FTers that populate these forums. Have fun, those of you going this weekend!

venk,

nice job with the upgrade - hope it also works out for the return. If not, you will still have fun with the other FT'ers back in coach. Did you grab a bite at Lefty's (my favorite DEN spot) before your trip?

TF

Sorry to hear that you can't go, tiviander. I am in the middle of my run to DEN. I am in YYC right now on a mini layover.

An updated list...

4/27 [8]
chemist661: 43C
Greytop: 38C&D {is this right, there's an aisle between C & D}
satori
Kurt: row 23
doctajay: 45A
keithguy: 33F&G
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Inbound
4/30 [9]
venk: 45K
chemist661: 38G
Greytop: 36F&G
satori
Kurt: row 22
doctajay: 23F
keithguy: 43H&K

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I'll be sure to check out Lefty's at DEN...

FYI, found the same fare 4/27 - 4/30 for
449 total...Still cheap by most standards.



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Tom

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tofromord:
venk,
nice job with the upgrade - hope it also works out for the return. If not, you will still have fun with the other FT'ers back in coach. Did you grab a bite at Lefty's (my favorite DEN spot) before your trip?
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Thanks. Although I have a second certificate I am not planning on using it for the return. I needed the sleep on the outbound as I had to give some presentations on the day that I reached so I used it. Business class on Lufthansa is nothing to write about. The seats do not recline enough and not flat enough to get a very good sleep. Mix that with the German penchant for hard seats (Recaro or not) and it is not very enticing for day trips.

On the return, I intend to be at the "tail-end" with any of FTers around in that section.

Sorry didn't know about Lefty's. I had a lunchtime flight into DEN with FC upgrade and had a decent meal on the way.

Am in the Red Carpet club in FRA. We all made it to FRA & went in different directions. I miss the E plus of UA. Still, it was fun meeting the other FTers on the ground & on the plane.

Sorry, couldn't meet up with any one here on the return trip. I had to do another R/T from FRA to the US for the weekend and I was so tired today at FRA that I finally decided to upgrade to business class for this flight back.

Cheapest R/T business class I must say even accounting for miles. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Hope y'all had a good time in Frankfurt.

I had a very nice time in Germany. Went to Bacharach & cruised the Rhine. Checked my UA mileage plus, my outbound LH miles posted! No bonus but status miles. Did 3 segments LAX-DEN each way. The flight attendents on my last leg (SFO-LAX) said I was the "crazy" one for fly FRA-DEN then flying DEN-SEA, SEA-SFO, & SFO-LAX. Oh well, I had loads of fun & my UA status miles/FF miles got richer! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gifI was 6 for 6 on upgrades on the UA ticket to/from DEN. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by chemist661 (edited 05-01-2002).]

chemist661-

I've stayed in Bacharach before, at the castle hostel on the hill above the city (about 1,000 steps straight up). Glad you were able to get over there. Plenty to see along the river over in that direction, too.

Just wanted to report back that I went and returned without any major problems. My etix from Orbitz somehow got screwed up and LH ended up having to re-issue paper tickets at the gate at no cost to me (the whole ordeal took about an hour to sort out). All in all, the fare paid was clearly printed on the flight coupons they reissued...

It was also fun to meet chemist661 and greytop.

The outbound miles on AC, UA and LH have been quasi-posted to my Aeroplan account. Seat pitch was similar to Delta's though. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

Return miles on LH posted earlier on my mileage plus account. Went over 90K YTD UA base miles. 1K, here I come! (will get it on my SIN trip in 3 weeks http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif)