Travel News - Why I choose the 747 over the 777 when I can..




ToddETurner
Jan 21, 04, 7:49 am
Got this in email from a pilot friend..

B-777 OVERWATER ENGINE FAILURE Suggested sequence of events


1. Crew maintains control of A/C.
2. Crew handles QRC immediate action items correctly.
3. Crew agrees upon enroute diversion alternate (SATCOM- DSP)
4. PF begins off-track maneuver. HDG SEL 90 from track in direction of alternate
5. Crew turns on all external lights.
6. PF begins drift down. Call for MCP alt set to VNAV ENG OUT cruise alt. EO speed or 320/.83 whichever is most reasonable considering terrain.
7. PF ensures MCT, monitors A/C performance, PNF handles comm.
8. PNF declares emergency with mayday on guard, common and/or HF as appropriate
9. PNF gives position, Flight ID, Track, Longitude/Latitude and altitude with all calls.
10. PNF requests clearance to enroute alternate with GP facility or guard relay.
11. Crew recalls pilots on break to cockpit via PA.
12. PNF records FMC position in scratch pad to be entered on plotting chart and to be forwarded to dispatch via MFD "MAYDAY" report or SATCOM link.
13. PNF completes checklist reference items.
14. PNF builds offset 25NM Pacific/30NM Atlantic (Offset execute or LNAV armed optional HDGSEL may be required if ETOPS alternate behind) Cross tracks below FL 290 Pacific/FL285 Atlantic.
15. PNF copies clearance to alternate.
16. Crew proceeds to alternate at 325kts /mach .83 when able at SE altitude.
17. PNF communicates with DD, FA's, SAMC and Pax as required.
18. Crew initiates preparation for ditching and/or evacuation if necessary.
19. Crew prepares estimates for FIRs or diversion airport.
20. Crew plots FMC position every 15 minutes on plotting chart on line drawn from initial diversion point to alternate.
21. Crew reviews ditching procedures if necessary.
22. Crew requests RCC information via DD if necessary.
23. Crew briefs approach, evacuation potential, runway exit plan and crew member assignments as necessary.
* If the EO SPD (slower drift down IAL) is chosen, about 2 minutes will be available for deceleration at altitude on the track before a descent becomes necessary and the initial rate of descent will be very slow with MAX CONT thrust set on the good engine. If 320/.83 is entered, the initial rate of descent will be higher exiting the track.







B-747 OVERWATER ENGINE FAILURE Suggested sequence of events



1. Continue to destination
2. 3 engine approach & landing---no change from 4 engine approach.


chalf
Jan 21, 04, 10:14 am
The 777 is ETOPS120 (now 180 or more?) certified, and a recent highly publicized test had a loaded 777 fly long-distance on one engine. All of these steps are also for the crew.

While I'm not an engineer or aviation safety expert, I also have trouble believing that a revenue passenger flight on a 747 that suffers an engine failure would not divert. Somehow I think that sound airline management and public relations policies would dictate some emergency attention.

SEA_Tigger
Jan 21, 04, 10:27 am
Since I don't expect my 777 to drop an engine in-flight, and I know that even if it did it can safely divert to an alternate field without incident, I will continue to choose the greater comfort of the 777 in all classes of service over the 747. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


richard
Jan 21, 04, 10:32 am
This is really TravelBuzz! material as it does not follow the format of In The News.

Great post, I want to learn more, so let's continue over at TravelBuzz!

--richard, moderator



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