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doc
May 14, 01, 9:53 pm
Near miss at Dallas airport

Pilot’s fast reaction saves 60 passengers from crash with cargo plane

http://www.msnbc.com/news/573345.asp


cti1wlm
May 15, 01, 1:16 am
does "near miss" mean they hit?

SFOJFK
May 15, 01, 3:25 am
I guess the pilots were right in protesting the new ground rules for holding on a taxiway next to an active runway.


UAL Traveler
May 15, 01, 9:18 am
Originally posted by cti1wlm:
does "near miss" mean they hit? Nope, same as horseshoes.

fastflyer
May 15, 01, 9:19 am
Bravo to the AA pilot. His actions saved the lives of everyone on board both planes.

robinhood
May 15, 01, 9:51 am
10 feet! That's crazy. There were only 60 pax...just think...if there had been a few more passengers or if some of the passengers had brought more luggage, the plane may not have lifted off in time. Or if AA hadn't taken out two rows of seats! Looks like MRTC may have paid off big time. These folks are really really lucky.

blackjack-21
May 15, 01, 11:25 am
Amazing that the pilot could get the plane lifted off, when he was so much under full takeoff speed. Kudos to the crew for preventing a disaster!!!

bj-21.

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afang
May 15, 01, 12:55 pm
WOW, They are very lucky. I don't even want to think about being on that plane...

doc
May 15, 01, 1:05 pm
Recall please:

According to the FAA, this year there have been 233 such hazardous occurrences — called runway incursions — a 26 percent increase from the same period last year. Some say the situation has become so bad that the most hazardous part of any flight may be when the plane is on the ground.
http://abcnews.go.com/onair/2020/2020_000728_runwaycrash_feature.html


The US Department of Transportation (DOT) must step up efforts to make air travel safer, including better prevention of possible runway collisions and improved screening of luggage and passengers according to federal agencies.
The number of cases where planes create collision hazards on runways almost doubled to 392 in the first 11 months of 2000 from 200 in 1994, the DOT's Inspector General said.
http://news.airwise.com/stories/2001/01/980363811.html


In almost 60 percent of the 429 cases last year, an airplane pilot made a mistake. While private planes rather than commercial carriers made most of the errors, the threat of a major accident is real, the acting head of the National Transportation Safety Board told lawmakers Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Airline-Safety.html


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Sadly, these days runways are seemingly quite dangerous places! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif

afang
May 15, 01, 4:38 pm
Sad but true, I get more nervous on the ground nowdays..

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vetteset
May 15, 01, 5:58 pm
Isn't is nice to know that pilots are highly skilled and well paid? I for once, don't see anyone complaining about those "greedy pilots!"

doc
May 15, 01, 9:40 pm
The NTSB has said it has made a number of recommendations to the FAA over the years with limited success. Operational recommendations for air traffic control proposed by the safety board last year to make runways safer would slow traffic.

``It won't help them with their delay problem, but it would help them with their runway problem and that's more important,'' NTSB Vice Chairman Carol Carmody said at a hearing.

The FAA said incursions were a top priority and was working to implement technology to help controllers avoid ground incidents. The agency also has developed an incursion awareness program at airports, and some officials have said the higher numbers reflect better reporting efforts.
http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010515/n15557789.html

doc
May 16, 01, 6:02 am
Passengers screamed in terror as the pilot wrestled with the controls to get off the ground and clear the cargo plane. With seconds to spare, the jet's nose lifted and cleared the cargo aircraft by a mere 10 feet, the report said.

Experts are calling the near-miss by a jet with a wing span of nearly 100 feet a "miracle". The miss was so close that the passenger pilot actually thought he had clipped the cargo plane and radioed back to the tower to tell them.
http://news.airwise.com/stories/2001/05/989964269.html



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