Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - YYZ and LAX difference in service?




confused_n_dz
Aug 15, 03, 2:44 pm
I usually fly biz class on the YYZ-HKG route and enjoy ther service CX has. This October I will be leaving from LAX. Does anyone know if I can expect a different service level or amenities?


Shareholder
Aug 15, 03, 6:35 pm
Only difference you might experience, other than a shorter flying time, so minor adjustment to the meal service. Also, there is no refueling stop, so you won't have to wake up just as you are getting into REM sleep. Otherwise, it would depend upon the aircraft used. YYZ uses a A340 while LAX may have a B747, which may provide some minor differences. What were you expecting? Oh, and CX has its own lounge at LAX while it used BA's at YYZ, I believe.

Guy Betsy
Aug 15, 03, 8:27 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
... Oh, and CX has its own lounge at LAX while it used BA's at YYZ, I believe. </font>

Which is quite dreadful, really.


Carfield
Aug 16, 03, 4:23 am
I actually likes the LAX service. What a surprise! You will actually be served with the exact same kinds of meals as the YYZ-HKG as the LAX-HKG service (even though YYZ flight took a couple hours longer and a stopover). You will get the supper service after takeoff (abbreviated dinner) and then breakfast prior to arrival. There will be choices of instant noodles, pizzas, sandwiches and ice-cream during midflight.

Sometimes I wonder why CX cannot serve a real third meal on the longer YYZ-HKG flight.

Well, LAX lounge, although operated by CX, was not that great though... it can be crowded especially the second LAX flight returns. There is no separate first class section.

christep
Aug 16, 03, 4:37 am
Er, what? Has that changed? I'm sure I've used a First Class lounge at LAX in the past - isn't it a shared QF/BA/CX one? I do remember it being a bit crowded though.

miki13331
Aug 16, 03, 8:01 am
the small room at the back of the J lounge at LAX is now the "F" section. CX passengers are not allowed to use the BA/QF first class lounges.

number_6
Aug 16, 03, 8:28 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by miki13331:
the small room at the back of the J lounge at LAX is now the "F" section. CX passengers are not allowed to use the BA/QF first class lounges. </font>Unless they are QF Platinum or BA Gold. The CX lounge at LAX is a disgrace (but so is the one at SFO). Presumably QF's opening of the J/F lounges at T4 next month will make the BA/QF lounge into a BA/CX lounge (unless BA won't share, which makes little sense as their flight times don't conflict with CX's). QF has been running such high loads that the LAX lounges have been overwhelmed, so their move to T4 should help the TBIT situation a tiny bit. Too bad security won't allow entry to T4 when flying out of TBIT -- makes arriving at LAX on AA more valuable!

pegasus8228
Aug 16, 03, 9:48 am
they started to rent the AF lounge for F in lax (for midnight flights). a little more space, close to the elevator on the left side/cx gate side) still it is nothing special.....
(eg nothing compared to the CX F lounge in BKK, not to say the wing, or cx yvr lounge)

Shareholder
Aug 16, 03, 11:06 am
I realize the YYZ BA lounge is of an older design, but the First section is quite acceptable for small loads. Do CX First passengers have access to this smaller room [and pre-flight dining room], or just to the main J-C/ExecClub/Sapphire section?

Wonder if passengers originating in YYZ will have access to YVR CX lounge during that refuelling stop? CX has a nice, albeit small, YVR lounge. Most LAX T4 lounges are pretty grungy. Certainly not of the standards one might expect from such a major international gateway. [Though I would expect the BA/QF one to be of higher standards.]

Carfield
Aug 16, 03, 1:07 pm
Not sure about the BA lounge arrangement at YYZ.

But about the current routing from HKG to YYZ via YVR and vice versa, no passenger is allowed to deplane at Vancouver, but there will be a crew change. The plane will park at a regular gate at the D concourse (International) and no passenger will deplane... only crew and flight personnel.

I like the Vancouver lounge... I think CX should purchase the empty Korean lounge next to it and convert it into a F lounge. Well, juding from current financial situation, it is not likely to happen, but CX can use a few more computer with internet connections at the YVR lounge.

Shareholder
Aug 16, 03, 1:27 pm
Thanks for the update on the YVR refueling stop, Carfield. Nice to know I can stay put in my F cucoon, even if I must wake up for the landing a mere 4-hours after taking off from YYZ, and likely 2-hours after concluding supper.



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