Cathay Pacific Asia Miles - One World/Asia Miles Blues

Was just told that it is not possible to combine Cathay and BA together in the same redemption ticked. Not that you will find any word of this on the CX site, mind you. So much for OneWorld.

>1mn km over the past few years on CX and have yet to fly a redemption sector due to the total absence of inventory, and the **** hassle of the inevitable 1 hr call necessary to put the thing together. Passages, Asia Miles, whatever. Let's not even get into the 2 week lead time required to book the thing.

Why can't CX do like UA and redeem miles at the airport, no questions asked. Is this incompetence with IT or is this a policy deciscion taken to keep people from actually using these miles. If so, the policy makers should be complemented on the effectiveness.

If these guys weren't protected by the HK Gov't, we could all get a much better value for money result, and less complacency.

This frequency flyer program is all vapor and no substance. You can earn miles, but you can't use them. Like a roach motel - you can check in, but you can't check out. A pure smoke screen to give the appearance of valuing customer loyalty. I give up.

The oneworld award rules are the SAME for all oneworld carriers. You would need two oneworld carriers in it doesn't include the host carrier (that's CX in Asiamiles, or BA in Executive Club) and three oneworld carriers if it does.

So you just need to find one extra segment on your award which you can stick another oneworld carrier on and not use it!

You'd also like to know that both AsiaMiles and The Marco Polo Club are NOT run nor owned by CATHAY PACIFIC.

No one is protected under the HK govt.

Originally posted by Guy Betsy:
You'd also like to know that both AsiaMiles and The Marco Polo Club are NOT run nor owned by CATHAY PACIFIC.


Are we playing with semantics here? Maybe not technically (as in Swire Pacific is not a HK company because it is incorporated in the Bahamas) but effectively, no question about it.

If CX REALLY does not own AsiaMiles or Marco Polo Club, then why would MPC be called CX's loyalty club?

Let's face it, CX has really arcane rules regarding redemption of miles, whether oneworld or on its own. I remember the laughable rule they had in Passages where a "redemptee" had to be in a redemption list that one submits way ahead of time.

And the worst of all, flights on CX do not count towards MPC if you don't accrue on AsiaMiles. What's up with that? I think, there should be no disctinction between FFP and Loyalty Clubs, just like with AA, UA, DL etc. etc.

There is some 'play' between Asiamiles, The Marco Polo Club and Executive Club (Asia & UK).

For The Marco Polo Club, yes, you can only receive loyalty miles when crediting to Asiamiles. But if you are a UK resident, you can opt to keep The Marco Polo Club but have your miles deposited into AirMiles in the UK Executive Club. These miles are just award miles and hold no status with The Exceutive Club.

Similarly, Asian-based Executive Club members earn loyalty points on Executive Club but the award miles are automatically credited into AsiaMiles.

So in fact, Asiamiles in asia acts like Airmiles in UK.

By the way, all 3 ex-Passages participants, SQ, MH and CX still require you to register only up to 5 nominees who you'd like to redeem awards for. Each time you change a nominee, you get dinged for US$50 change fee.

From memory, I understand that my AsiaMiles card says that it is operated by 'Cathay Pacific Loyalty Programmes Limited'

Would seem unusual not to be thus part of ther CX group structure..