Trip Reports - Out to the Coast - dinner with dhammer et al




violist
Mar 6, 04, 6:19 pm
1. pre-hammer

0306 UA 165 BOS LAX 0835 1154 752 3D

Got to the airport at 7-odd only to be confronted
with huge lines everywhere. Asked a girl who looked
young enough to know these things what was going on,
and she said, I dunno, probably spring break. I
suppose in retrospect she was about thirty and thus
far removed from these things.

The security line was all the way into the children's
museum store and took a fair amount of time; I got
to the gate around 8:20 as boarding looked pretty
complete; discovered the front cabin at 10 or so but
with some guy assigned next to me. He seemed jolly
enough but opined that when the time came he would
be inclined to excuse himself for one of the several
empty rows. But at door's close, a huge influx, and
every seat but a couple ended up occupied up front.

The flight was very bumpy, and the purser was somewhat
cross (in her 50s, gray haired, Boston-based by the
sound of her very townie accent; she consistently
ignored me except when I directly addressed her (she
offered water to the rest of the passengers, not to
me, things like that; I wondered if she was on of
those old-style racist Southie people or whether
perhaps I'd done her wrong decades ago (doubtful; she
didn't seem to be my style). However, the FA who
shared the first-class duties with her was pretty
nice, though, and cancelled out her unpleasantness.

Two colors of tablecloths; I got a gray one.

TO BEGIN
Fresh from the bakery: a selection of Danish,
croissants and bagels with butter, cream cheese and
fruit preserves

MAIN COURSE
Mediterranean omelette with tomatoes and smoked
mozzarella cheese, cheddar cheese grits, Canadian
bacon, chicken sausage and fresh fruit

French toast with a dried fruit filling, Canadian
bacon, pork sausage, maple syrup and fresh fruit

Fresh seasonal fruit platter: for the lighter appetite,
we offer a variety of fresh fruit with yogurt.

FEATURED WINES
Your flight attendant will inform you of today's
selections.

SPARKLING WINE
Villabra non-vintage Prosecco

WHITE WINE
Montevina Sierra Foothills Sauvignon Blanc 2002
Guenoc California Chardonnay 2002

RED WINE
Luis Felipe Edwards Colchagua Reserve Merlot 2002
Canyon Road California Shiraz 2001

The French toast, stuffed with eggs, cranberry bits,
and lots of orange peel, was okay; the fruit appetizer
kind of sour and unripe.

Butter was unsalted; for salt and pepper there was
instead of the economy paper packets or the F shakers
a new dual envelope of stiffer paper. Sort of chic
looking, but not so nice as shakers.

There was of course no sparkling wine; also no Guenoc;
I had my usual.

On the whole an insignificant flight, but my seatmate
was amusing to talk to.

The movie was something about a guy who is going out
with both a mother and her daughter, or something
like that, with Jack Nicholson and Diane Keaton. I
didn't watch it. We got in right at noon; I didn't
feel like reading any more grant proposals, so I paid
my annual visit to Encounter, where it was nice and
quiet, and I got a 6-top booth all to myself.

There was nothing that called my name on the menu;
even at lunch in the past, there were interesting
things. I guess there's no chef any more, just some
kid in the kitchen reading recipes off cards.

I thought about the ahi tartare, but it looked to
me as though maybe I shouldn't trust it, so I didn't.
Had a most welcome Sam (5.75) followed by a burger
rare (11.50) and a side of spinach (5). The waitress,
a very pretty Somali-looking girl, came back to ask
if I wanted the burger medium-rare. No, rare rare, I
said. She chuckled. When the burger came, it was
medium and tasted like nothing at all, despite its
being billed as being made of Angus chuck. In fact,
the bun was much more interesting than the burger,
and bear in mind I don't like bread much. Also,
the meat was hugely salted, not the greatest thing
in the world for those who are, as I am, watching
their sodium. It came with a pickle spear that looked
as though it had spent most of its life under a heat
lamp and some of the yummiest potato chips I've had,
thick-cut, crunchy, spiced with lots of cayenne.
The spinach was delicious, though, a huge serving
that must have been about a bag's worth, with a
similarly huge amount of crushed fresh garlic.

The help was pleasant if a bit scattered: my check
didn't come for a good fifteen minutes after I was
ready for it, and when it came, two people came by
to pick up my credit card. Oh, someone already got
it, the second person said.

Back to the RCC to do some work, get the mail, and
write this report. LAX is pretty ugly, isn't it,
with lost people everywhere, baggage screening
stations all over the place, TSA and UA guys milling
about apparently without aim.


InterflugIL62
Mar 6, 04, 7:09 pm
Interesting report.

Welcome to LA http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

I love LAX, but I will agree that Untied landside is nothing to write home about.

American(the better airline http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif ) is a much nicer terminal, land and airside.

Never had a meal at the new Encounter. The new wooden tables drive me crazy, but they were a much better restaurant in their old incarnation.

I would stick with drinks, appetizers, maybe a dessert. It is a good place to entertain friends who are transiting when you don't want to chance leaving the airport.

As for Untied service, most of their crews were good, but yeah, you get some nasty ones who just don't like you and I swear I was public enemy # 1 with a couple.

Ignore them and I am assuming you upgraded vs. actually paid for the fare, so chalk that one up as a bad flight.

Have fun tonight.

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violist
Mar 7, 04, 7:04 am
Continued and concluded:

So I headed back to the RCC and bided some time and
then to the gate to greet SkiAdcock, whence we went
back back to the RCC for a drink and to try to
cadge a ride to the restaurant.

Dhammer was running a bit late, so we called Kenji,
who was also running late, so we called Lisa, who
was near the airport and in fact got to the UA area
about the same time we did.

Five minutes to SIAM, 7241 W. Manchester, where we
met KenjiH for a round of drinks before others
started trickling in. Lots of flying talk, centering
around the various airlines' 1 for 2, 1 for 3,
2 for 6 promotions and the peculiar little exchange
that had taken place the day before in the FT thread
regarding this gathering. Gradually the others
arrived: Delacpa (x2), Chemist661, Flyman; and soon
Delacpa (distaff) and SkiAdcock were summoned to the
phone - a greeting call from 777Brit from across the
big land and the big water. At last, some time after
6:30, the host of honor got here, having been stuck
in traffic, and we filed to our table for as leisurely
a meal as one could expect given that Kenji and Dan
had a 10:00 redeye to catch.

Very respectable food. I tried the vegetarian
spring rolls, pad thai, fried tofu, and dry-fried
beef, all of which were as expected (the pad thai
a tad sweeter than I'd have made it myself, but
still good). My honey chicken was fine, and I felt
extra virtuous at not getting something with lots
of beef and coconut milk. The rather heavily oaked
but quite drinkable K-J Cabernet Sauvignon went well
with the food: it came courtesy of 777Brit.

Service was on the clueless side, not bad, just not
all there; it wouldn't have been a problem if we
hadn't had people heading right back to the airport.

Dan and Kenji and I got to the airport in plenty of
time for our flights: they were on 14, for which
Kenji took the throne (10A on the 762), and Dan took
the middle of row 24, hoping for a threebie so he
could stretch out and rest for his next adventure.
There was time for a quick drink at the RCC (my
fourth visit); then off to the gate, where I saw
them off, and back (visit 5) to do a quick e-mail
and to my gate, which I arrived at just as they
were about to close the flight.

0306 UA 180 LAX BOS 2225 0643 320 6A

Who needs first class? This row has more room than
up front (seat is a little narrow, which is ok, and
coach recline, which is ok); as there's the bulkhead,
there's nobody to recline into one. And with 6B empty
(rest of the plane was fairly full), it was like
having a little nest of my own. I deployed the
eyeshades and earplugs and was out from takeoff to
landing, which was 15 early. And thus endeth my
adventures, at least until Tuesday.


violist
Mar 7, 04, 7:13 am
Inter: one of the topics of discussion was
the erosion of the Encounter experience over
the years. Seems clear from the badly-printed
menus to the not-quite-clean water glasses
that the clientele isn't well-heeled locals
out for the retro experience any more but
rather tourists who won't be back in the
near future (I show up once every year or two
just for old times' sake, but given my dining
experience there, it'll be every second or
third year now). Interesting thing was that
when I arrived, it was pleasantly quiet, and
I was happy sitting in my booth there, but
over the hour and half I was there, a number
of parties showed up, one with a very squally
infant, another two parents with half a
dozen kids. The noise level went way up, and
the service level (already slow) went way down.

There was nothing on the appetizer list that
looked very interesting. A dinner special of
short ribs at 21.50 might have been edible,
but it was still several hours to dinnertime,
and as I was scheduled for a real dinner
(sorry you couldn't make it, btw) later,
even if they'd been available, a big fatty
beefy meal wouldn't have been too appetizing.

InterflugIL62
Mar 7, 04, 10:38 am
Thank you for the report, it sounded fun and 777Brit sounded very generous, good show I say. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Next time tell him to send some safety cards with the bottle. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif (he has been good to me that way, fyi)

No, as it was my first weekend back I actually put a small group together and we did Chinese, another good restaurant, by the way, in West LA. I needed to catch up with everyone.

I was going to lump them into the flyertalk dinner and this was better. So much has happened in the last 2/3 weeks.

Anyway, I will have to check out the Encounter and see what has happened. If even just for the incredible view.

Maybe next time!? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif Good luck with the special promotion.

FYI, VIP Harbor, West Los Angeles on Wilshire blvd, I can get the address later as I need to get to church, outstanding food and the best dim sum I have ever had. We had a feast and as it was my first Asian food in 3 weeks, yummm. Unless you count Israeli as Asian. ahhhhhhhhhhh I call it
'Mediteranean.'

It even smelled incredible as we walked in.
Service, like Siam, could be better, but the food is worth it. Siam's service used to be much,much better and so we go for the food, which has stayed the same.

If I can lure people up to the Westside, so much better for me coming from Malibu, maybe we can do a Flyertalk dinner out there? Free valet parking.

I'll try to get the info on here later. It won't work if you have a quick in and out of LAX. Traffic on the 405 is dreadful.

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SkiAdcock
Mar 9, 04, 12:41 pm
violist, great surprise to have you meet me at gate & have a quick drink before dinner. btw - i ate at encounter a few weeks ago; met a friend who was also flying out that aft. had fabulous service & my burger was quite good. must be the luck of the draw. cheers.

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flamboyant 1
Mar 9, 04, 2:37 pm
Nice report from a good man http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif!

dhammer53
Mar 9, 04, 10:18 pm
I'd say violist summed it up. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

It's always nice seeing old friends; and making new ones.

delacpa
Mar 10, 04, 8:11 pm
Violist -- as previously stated (in FT Community) it was a pleasure meeting you, sitting across from you and, of course, sharing the oft-mentioned 777Brit wine http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

Great to read how your travels (both pre & post Thai dinner) went....... looking forward to getting together again.

jetsetter
Mar 10, 04, 8:34 pm
Thanks for the report, and does Encounter have good views for plane spotting?

777Brit
Mar 12, 04, 2:40 pm
Wow...the oft-mentioned wine appears again! Folks, I just wanted to do something for my LA-area friends, old and new. After all, that restaurant is kinda special to us and we would have loved to have been there.

violist
Mar 12, 04, 3:12 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jetsetter:
Thanks for the report, and does Encounter have good views for plane spotting?</font>

A lot of people ask for window seats. If you
are on the left of the elevators, you see
the T1-3 area, which is great if you like
WN 737s and RJs and stuff - although I did
see a Korean 747, a Thai 747, a China Eastern
something long and skinny and old, and the
Air Tahiti Nui 330 (or was it 340, I forget).
Also a NZ 747 that was parked within sight.
I've never been on the other side of the
restaurant, but it would probably have
similar views of the United area.

I remember back in the old days there was
a nice observation deck above the restaurant,
but it's closed now.

InterflugIL62
Mar 16, 04, 4:10 am
By the way, friend and I had a great dinner at Siam last Saturday night.

Great service and food.

The last time the service was terrible, why I had moved my birthday party away from it.

I just wish that they were more consistent.

I want to host a flyertalk dinner in the near future, but I have a few options open, you will like all of them. Siam being one, VIP Harbor (West LA) another.

When I have some Euro friends come into town to welcome them, then we will do it.

As for Encounter, great views from all areas of the restaurant. The best is on the North side, facing terminal 1 an 2(Northwest), as you can watch the planes turn around and take off/land. You also get a nice view of downtown LA, smog permitting. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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