Trip Reports - B Watson needs your help

OK gang - I am leaving for a marathon trip in 2 weeks that will include S Africa and S America. I need a read on whether to generate a trip report for this sojourn since they really are rather allot of work.

Please post:

HOLE - as in, crawl back into your hole and don't waste our time with your diatribes

or

SNOB - as in, at least you know what you are and are not afraid to admit the obvious - keep the reports coming.

[This message has been edited by B Watson (edited 10-23-2002).]

My reaction would be "neither, but post the trip report" but if you want one of the binary responses, SNOB.

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Saving the world, one clue at a time.

SNOB SNOB SNOB. Barton.... your reports make this board ROAR!!! I will be writing my reports this weekend as well

Please don´t stop writing your reports. Please.

Don't stop. Please post em.

Oh, please do continue. This princess needs some standard to aspire to! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
Oh, please do continue. This princess needs some standard to aspire to! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

Well you have already discovered Myers Leather at the Mandarin in HK http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I've always wanted to go to S. Africa and S. America. Please create a Geocities website with daily postings and photos!!!

Please continue!!! Your trip reports motivate me to continue climbing up the corporate ladder until I'm important enough / well-off enough to travel paid int'l F everywhere. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Along those lines, do you by any chance need a personal assistant? (who of course would have to travel in F with you everywhere) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif I'm probably a little overqualified, but I can take decent notes and I'll work for peanuts. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Seriously, I love your trip reports and look forward to more. Thanks for taking the time - I know they're time-consuming to write.

B Watson,

Please post your reports. While I have been a critic of your snobery, I really do enjoy your reports, but go easy on your secretary next time http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Pictures would be nice too!

Keep 'em coming! Wonderful, wonderful reports.

You are every airline's dream customer; the fact that some here feel the need to mock you is probably due to them flying in C for $50 per leg [Which, as I can attest, is strangely gratifying in its own way] http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Regards,
Alex

SNOB- please post them because ftlampooner will post his and I need to laugh like that everyday!

Mykal

SNOB!

SNOB!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Sans nobilité here.

SNOB!!! and thanks for taking the time to be one! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

SNOB!

Go for it, snob dude.

SNOB! Keep 'em coming... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

SNOB. Please post.

Although I don't eat cavier nor do I have your personality. Reading your posts is great, and as a young college student, reading from a person like you aspires me to be very sucessful, so I can enjoy what you enjoy and can take for granted. So post your trip report and make myself and everyone jealous..

Be Safe.

Your trip reports are great (and funny). Keep em coming.

PLEASE KEEP THEM COMING. They are great.

You write fine reports, Watson. Look at the speedy and lusty responses you've elicited with just this posting!

What a great itinerary you've got to look forward to! Have a great trip and if you feel up to writing a trip report, I'll certainly make time to read it (along with your opinions, most of which I happen to agree with) no matter what style you write it in, you SNOB! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

SNOB (and I mean that in the nicest way possible).

so you need some hype as encouragement http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
SNOB!

SNOB - as in, at least you know what you are and are not afraid to admit the obvious - keep the reports coming.

SNOB! SNOB!

Even from the back of the bus ... er ... plane... I want to live vicariously through your experiences....!!!



[This message has been edited by Abby (edited 10-23-2002).]

Your trip reports make a fine substitute for actual F travel of my own! Please keep them coming.

SNOB!

Plus you can amuse those around you dictating the report. . .

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Greg

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
Oh, please do continue. This princess needs some standard to aspire to! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

SNOB SNOB SNOB....If she is the princess then I am going to claim that I am the prince. I will post as detailed a report as I can if you will do so B.Watson I will be leaving in 2 days for a 3 week tour in Australiasia....SNOB2 Report coming soon.

SNOB. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif

Please continue to share on the pleasures of: flying Concorde (BA of course!); The Observatory Sydney; The Peninsula Hong Kong; Amanresorts; Hotel Cipriani Venezia; Georges V Paris; Penfolds Grange; Henschke Shiraz; dining at Jean-Georges Vongerichten restaurants; dining at Gordon Ramsay's; dining at Alain Ducasse; SQ's Book the Cook; the caviar on CX First; The Wing; and whatever else makes for fun, vicarious travelling.

Would love to hear your comments on Mount Nelson in CPT and/or The Westcliff in JNB if you are staying there.

Definitely SNOB!

I am from Brazil originally, so I'm interested in your musings on my country. I'll try not to take it personally.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I'm also planning on going to South Africa next year with my wife on Safari, and as we plan on going high end (although probably C, not F), I'm curious as to your comments on airlines and hotels.

As one who loved the lampoon of your report, I'd say keep doing reports as long as you want to.

On this board some of us will like certain styles and some of us wont.

At the end of the day your only duties are to be honest and to keep within the terms of use. You do not have to please everyone.

Stephen

Are there posts that one could read to attest to B Watson's snobbery? Seems to be legendary.

SNOT! SNOT! SNOT! Oh, err... I mean... SNOB SNOB SNOB!!!!! Please make haste with the trip reports, they are glorious. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Mr. Strong:
SNOB. &lt;IMG SRC="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thumbsup.gif"&gt;


Would love to hear your comments on Mount Nelson in CPT and/or The Westcliff in JNB if you are staying there.</font>

Those are in fact the hotels I use in SA - both are fantastic BTW - I will offer details after the trip but I would encourage you not to get taken in by the reputation of the Cape Grace - they must have the best PR people in the world but are a significant step behind the Nellie.

You can count me as a "Yes" vote, your reports so far have been mines of information, after all, even if not all of us ever buy full F tickets, we still need to decide where we are going to spend our miles, don't we?

And being a SNOB is all relative, I've been called one for steadfastly insisting on drinking tea out of the cup, rather than pouring it into the saucer, and been described as 'POSH' for ordering two different wines with a meal.

And on the flipside, I've been described as a SLOB (actually, to be exact, a caveman who has no business eating with civilised people) for the heinous crime of being left-handed.

All depends on your point of view, and when you last appeared on the Jerry Springer Show.

Ken.

"Did you hear the latest? Blodwen's getting married! And she isn't even pregnant! There's posh now, isn't it?" - One of the many "Welsh Girl" jokes I learned in my youth.

SNOB, meaning that you know what is the best in class and what is not, and are not afraid to say so.

I always value an informed opinion.

YES! You're better than any published travel guide, at least for my needs (and travel dreams). Would appreciate more detailed hotel info since I'm planning a South Africa trip. Don't go easy on anyone. Many thanks. P.S.-when/if you sell your company your next career has to be as a travel writer.

SNOB away!!!

Oh my GOD, there's must be more people out there loving you (sorry, your reports) than you have ever dreamed of...


SNOB, OF COURSE !!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif


any info on the airlines you will take ? just to give them some time for preparation...(crews beware, the wine-loving hawkeye is approaching...Nellie and Westcliff, look after your aircondition http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JetAway:
P.S.-when/if you sell your company your next career has to be as a travel writer.</font>

...or CEO of Watson Air and Watson Express hotel group http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

And lead trainer of the International Boot Camp For Flight Attendants and their Lookalikes, of course http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by ngfan (edited 10-24-2002).]

Rather than answering what appears a simplified multiple choice question, allow me to offer the following observations:

· Your trip reports are very well written, a pleasure to read, and a very good basis to decide which First Class to chose before a trip.

· On a US biased site, which FT is for all its virtues and faults, it is refreshing to read a clearly non-PC report by someone who bases his strong opinions on fact, rather than on hearsay collated to suit a particular point of view.

· Having said that, and taking into account the considerable effort on your and your secretary´s part to produce such reports, I do not know whether the cost-benefit analysis warrants a continuation. After all, there is unlikely to be significant change of the content in the future. You are travelling at a frequency exceeding that of even the most slave driven pilots, and I fear that your future reports would be more of the same. Reading your most recent report could become required reading for all new members, and whoever wish to enjoy themselves can read it as often as they like. Fly SQ PAR-SIN, or UA LHR-SFO, or QF MEL-FRA, barring something special (which you could always write up quickly) we are not going to learn much more than what we know already. And as your style remains the same, the entertainment value will wear off.

· In your place I would report on different airlines (eg IB if you eventually fly them to GIG), or if there is something memorable to report. There is no need to devalue your currency by issuing it in excess.


With view to the content of your reports, I am afraid that you seem to suffer from a skewed relationship between reality and your expectations. In short, you expect an elmtree to bear cherries. Of course we have the right to obtain value for money for the services and goods we purchase. Of course the service in what generally is called First Class is no such thing. It may not quite be cattle class with wider seats, but in many aspects it is. If we compare real prices with those thirty years ago, even the full F fare (RTW even more so) is ridiculously cheap. The real income of the staff in F has multiplied, something has to give, and it is the quality.

You and I had the opportunity to travel extensively in F and pay for it. This gives us an insight into the price quality ratio which no employee of an airline, often not even the CEO, can match. Half the cabin staff is jealous that you are sitting in their seat (UA), the other half feel that you are interfering with their routine from the minute you board. Contrary to decades of attempts to inculcate the basics of liberal market economy into the general population, very few employed service providers grasp the concept that customers make payday possible. This problem extends far beyond the airline industry, (banks being another example).

To complain about this state of affairs may be justified, but it is a bit like complaining about a taxidriver from Chicago not finding a street in New York. While it may not be difficult for you and other New Yorkers, there is no point in complaining about the shortcomings of the guy from Chicago. Just grin and bear it, reluctantly accept the notion that travel even in so called first class is a necessity rather than a pleasure, and concentrate on the real pleasures and luxury that you can find outside planes.

Have a good meal BEFORE you board a plane, then drink lots of water, have a glass of average wine and sleep. A cup of coffee when you wake up, and a proper breakfast at Hotel of your choice. Above all, if you can not travel First Class, stay at home in First Class !

What Zorro said, however if you and your Secretary enjoy writing trip reports then feel free to continue, we can choose to read them, or not. I'll probably read it.

SNOB

Even though some of your trip reports may possibly start sounding the same due to the sheer frequency of your travel and the fact that you are always traveling first class, each report is still different because little things here, and little things there, are different. Your observations of service and attitudes displayed by travel company employees are most helpful.

If someone is going to give you grief about being a SNOB, hell, please provide us with what you are actually paying for all this travel. I wouldn't mind knowing how much your hotel rooms at the (insert super high end luxury accomodation here) cost or how much a bottle of some high priced booze is costing vs. what the bottle of swill they are pouring costs. I want the full WOW factor so I can tell people that I know someone (in a virtual sense of course) who pay $xx,xxx for their flights and $x,xxx for their hotels etc.). Sort of like an online version of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."

For those of us who live and die by Priceline and/or scrounge for miles to take a flight, reading about how others travel lends itself to better daydreaming.



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Please continue to post all of your trip reports. You are not a snob, that is a relative word. You simply seem to be a person that enjoys the finer things in life and can pay for them. More power to you, and you should ignore any negative comments about your ability to pay for the finer things in life. Finally, with the amount of money that travelling first class costs, irregardless of whether by plane, train, or automobile, you should expect perfection.

B Watson you are the M Stewart of FlyerTalk.

Please keep posting...

As the saying goes, Thank you for your Support. I am concrened about dulication so I think that I need to find a new spin to the processes. In any case, I do acutally enjoy taking the time and find the excercise entertaining. The next trip will be ORD-SFO-HKG-NRT-TPE-HGK-MNL-HKG-KUL-SIN-SYD-MEL-SYD-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-MAN-LHR-NCE-LHR-JFK-GIG-MIA-ORD-GRR so if that does not burn me out from writing these reports, nothing will!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Scion:
B Watson you are the M Stewart of FlyerTalk.

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In that case my next trip report will be from the Federal minimum security prison camp at... I will be commenting on the poor quality of service in the chow line, the dubious origin of the beef in the sloppy Joes and the generally poor taste of the furnishings http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B Watson:
In that case my next trip report will be from the Federal minimum security prison camp at... I will be commenting on the poor quality of service in the chow line, the dubious origin of the beef in the sloppy Joes and the generally poor taste of the furnishings http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>

Does this mean I can finally buy the new B Watson equity investor strategy book in Kmart? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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My vote is snob.

Your reports, I'm sure, are indeed a lot of work, but the payoff is that they bring a lot of laughs and smiles across FlyerTalk.

Please continue.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B Watson:
The next trip will be ORD-SFO-HKG-NRT-TPE-HGK-MNL-HKG-KUL-SIN-SYD-MEL-SYD-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-MAN-LHR-NCE-LHR-JFK-GIG-MIA-ORD-GRR so if that does not burn me out from writing these reports, nothing will!</font>

As long as you keep flying routings like this, very few of us will devalue your Trip Report currency.

Zorro of course makes some very valid observations, but let me add a couple more:

1.) In Trip Reports, you're dealing with an audience that enjoys air travel to the extent that they actually go out on the internet to read about it as well as post reports of their own travels. How many of your business associates and friends in everyday society do that, either at FT or elsewhere?

2.) Last time I checked, the Trip Reports forum had 772 topics and 8,541 responses to those topics. The interest level is high. While continued writing about flying First Class on Singapore, Cathay Pacific et al. may run the risk of boring some readers who've been there and done that, most of us will look forward to your reports. Remember, people who read Trip Reports are into this stuff more than the average Joe.

3.) Although Zorro may travel in First Class out of necessity, for the majority of us it's a luxury obtained through either an award or an upgrade. Most of the International First Class reports I've read of here are nowhere near as extensive as yours. Through you, we get to experience, if only vicariously, the ultimate in commercial air travel.

4.) While you and I are hardly likely to ever share a bottle of wine together, I for one think your observations/complaints are right on. Even if, given the air travel industry's economic woes and our nationwide diminishing work ethic, your expectations are unrealistic, they are certainly no less worthy. I at the very least enjoy reading about those airlines that approach your expectations and I will most certainly look forward to reading about the airline that may actually meet them someday. Now THAT would be a real treat!

Write on, B Watson, write on!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by onedog:
SNOB


If someone is going to give you grief about being a SNOB, hell, please provide us with what you are actually paying for all this travel. I wouldn't mind knowing how much your hotel rooms at the (insert super high end luxury accomodation here) cost or how much a bottle of some high priced booze is costing vs. what the bottle of swill they are pouring costs. I want the full WOW factor so I can tell people that I know someone (in a virtual sense of course) who pay $xx,xxx for their flights and $x,xxx for their hotels etc.). Sort of like an online version of "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."

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Hey Man..

One of my two best friends fits your description perfectly. Whenever we meet up, I'm always regaled with his trips to the best hotels, via seat 1A on BA, and being met with hotel limos, etc etc... ...

He is from a VERY VERY prominent US family, and conversations along the lines of, "If you want to meet up for the weekend, then you should send your private jet for me. I don't feel like flying scheduled at the moment... ...", are not out of place. (He actually had this chat a while back when we were having coffeee in Harvey Nicks... the table next to us went VERY silent, VERY quickly as they leaned PERCEPTIBLY forwards to catch every syllable.) It was his childhood friend calling from NCE saying the yacht was there and would WE like to join for the weekend...

Other things like comparisons of Presidential Suites, Vacheron-Constantin timepieces, are now common place... ...

HOWEVER, one thing to bear in mind with this is that my friend NEVER shouts his wealth. If you know where to look, you will see his family heritage, but he's actually quite low key... the black AMEX is there, of course, but only used in certain circumstances...

(This, I feel, is how B Watson conducts himself... ...)

A mitigating circumstance is when he throws a party at his London house. It's a six storey affair in a grade 1 listed building, and there's free flow champagne and fresh canapes ALL night. (He has a chef and house staff come in to cater)... it's DECENT champagne, (but he keeps his Krug supply for us lucky few), and they are the talk of town.. ...

Or the time he rented a property in Barbados for three months at a cost of 10000STG per week... I was in SIN at the time, and couldn't go, but the photographs showed lots of (known) people having a jolly good time... ... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif


Real money whispers

Mike

Mike,
Well Said!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B Watson:
Those are in fact the hotels I use in SA - both are fantastic BTW - I will offer details after the trip but I would encourage you not to get taken in by the reputation of the Cape Grace - they must have the best PR people in the world but are a significant step behind the Nellie. </font>

Interesting. I am, in fact, this very minute staying at the Park Hyatt in Rosebank. My choices were between the Grace in Jo'burg and the Park Hyatt. The Park Hyatt is not quite up to the usual PH standards, really, but for $90 a night (FG300 special rate), I really can't complain. The Grace was quoting quite a bit more, and the Westcliff is too far from the office.

Glad to hear about the Mount Nelson. Had my choice of the Cape Grace and the MN, and the best rates were at the MN, so I took that instead. Will be there next week. Wanted to stay at the Cape Grace, but I'll take your word for it that the MN is the best choice. I've stayed at the Copacabana Palace in Rio, also an Orient Express hotel, and I thought it was fantastic. I loved the pool scene, and the rooms were top notch.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Pickles:
Interesting. I am, in fact, this very minute staying at the Park Hyatt in Rosebank. My choices were between the Grace in Jo'burg and the Park Hyatt. The Park Hyatt is not quite up to the usual PH standards, really, but for $90 a night (FG300 special rate), I really can't complain. The Grace was quoting quite a bit more, and the Westcliff is too far from the office.

Glad to hear about the Mount Nelson. Had my choice of the Cape Grace and the MN, and the best rates were at the MN, so I took that instead. Will be there next week. Wanted to stay at the Cape Grace, but I'll take your word for it that the MN is the best choice. I've stayed at the Copacabana Palace in Rio, also an Orient Express hotel, and I thought it was fantastic. I loved the pool scene, and the rooms were top notch. </font>

The Cape Grace is a very nice hotel, but just does not raise to the level that it is often accorded. However, the Nellie is very much classic colonial feeling - a GREAT time warp. The regional MD for Orient Express is a chap by the name of Nick Seewer - if you run into him feel free to mention that I recommended the hotel -


Strangely enough, I will also be at the Copacabana Palace on this trip http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Let's cut to the chase, B Watson: would you be willing to provide us with the $$ value of one of your trip reports?

Not on your readers' terms (because that will vary from person to person), but on your terms.

For example, consider your most recent report. What would be its direct costs? -- that is, the time you spent multiplied by your hourly rate, plus the direct costs of anyone else who was involved (I think you mentioned that someone might transcribe your tapes, for example).

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by wideman:
Let's cut to the chase, B Watson: would you be willing to provide us with the $$ value of one of your trip reports?

Not on your readers' terms (because that will vary from person to person), but on your terms.

For example, consider your most recent report. What would be its direct costs? -- that is, the time you spent multiplied by your hourly rate, plus the direct costs of anyone else who was involved (I think you mentioned that someone might transcribe your tapes, for example).

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This is one of those calculations that I leave undone since the results would scare me http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Full SNOB ahead!

If we check the number of trip reports done on CX or SQ First Class service, someone might come to the conclusion that nobody should ever bother writing another trip report about it.

But every trip report is unique in some way, and the narrative is at least as entertaining as the details. We notice different things, and the service is evolving and changing.

I don't find it repetitive at all to read reports which share 80% of the same details, because that unique 20% of content.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Plato90s:
But every trip report is unique in some way, and the narrative is at least as entertaining as the details. We notice different things, and the service is evolving and changing.
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I, for one, write trip reports ALL the time. Heck, I even jot down notes about the really dull 200 mile domestic trips I do. I just don't post them all on FT for fear of boring you all to death with the dullness of my life.

If I had B Watson's life, however, I would be posting a daily summary of my doings. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

SNOB. No contest.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MikeinSIN:
...Real money whispers...
Mike...</font>

MikeinSIN Thank you for that important piece of advice. It is nice to know that you travel in such an exclusive crowd. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif I for one, unless I hit the lottery or find some other pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, will probably never ever be able to travel as you and BWatson do.

I am not asking for BWatson to scream out and boast about what his travel costs merely to show off what he can and does spend. I am asking him to share with friends stories of what ORD-SFO-HKG-NRT-TPE-HGK-MNL-HKG-KUL-SIN-SYD-MEL-SYD-JNB-CPT-JNB-LHR-MAN-LHR-NCE-LHR-JFK-GIG-MIA-ORD-GRR in F is like, with all the $$ details. I want all the dirt because otherwise I have no idea what that type of a trip entails. When someone writes in their trip report that they ordered the 199X Opus One for $1xx because it was a great deal, at that point I know that Opus One costs a heck of a lot of money (lots more than my recent July 2002 Thunderbird http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif) and the price is one less item of which I will no longer be ignorant of the details. If I ever have the chance or need to purchase Opus One, I will know what a reasonable price should be.

I want to know how much his travel costs because without his sharing with me I would probably never know. I am just another working class type of guy who is living vicariously through BWatson's travel. I want to know so that I can dream "hmm...one day...". The WOW factor is part of the excitement of the dream.

I may not have my own whine cellar and I sure as heck can't tell the difference between this champagne or that sparkling wine, but I still can dream. And yes, even though I didn't grow up hob nobbing with members of a "VERY VERY prominent US family" at Harvey Nichols, I too was taught at a young age that that "those who are rich know they are and don't have to let the rest of the world know." The rest is all details that we share.


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SNOB!!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by B Watson:
In that case my next trip report will be from the Federal minimum security prison camp at... I will be commenting on the poor quality of service in the chow line, the dubious origin of the beef in the sloppy Joes and the generally poor taste of the furnishings http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>


Actually, Martha will most probably get the same thing DeDe Brooks (ex-chair of Sotheby's) received - home imprisonment. Thus, she will be allowed to live in her posh apartment in New York or lovely manse on Mount Desert Island, receive visitors, and be allowed to leave twice a week to buy food. I think B Watson could live like that and not complain!

Of course, oddly enough, this kind of life actually makes people want to leave. DeDe Brooks, who has had a housekeeper all her life, now grocery shops herself since it is the only time she is allowed out!

Your snobbismo is worth reading FT Trip Reports. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

If you ever need to hire a food taster for these trips, keep me in mind.

lala

I won't use either word but I will say... if you like to write, do it.

Sometimes it's fun to do these trip reports and then go back and reflect on some good times. Plus you may discover something that may help a Flyertalker doing the same trips down the line.

I have most of my trip reports saved in a scrap book to remember all the places I've been and the people I've met.

Have a great trip and keep us posted on your adventures.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jja34-1:

Actually, Martha will most probably get the same thing DeDe Brooks (ex-chair of Sotheby's) received - home imprisonment. Thus, she will be allowed to live in her posh apartment in New York or lovely manse on Mount Desert Island, receive visitors, and be allowed to leave twice a week to buy food. I think B Watson could live like that and not complain!
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Not to go OMNI, but I suspect not in this case. The Feds are out to make examples.

I'm betting she does time - Ivan Boesky lived in the hills in the SF Bay Area at the facility at Santa Rita.

Greg

Yes, please continue to be a SNOB (not that I think that you actually are).

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by onedog:
I may not have my own whine cellar...</font>

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Watson I do not want to sound too demanding or nervy but it would be great if you would also post a few pictures.

Snob away!