Trip Reports - Concorde and BA First (Xmas shopping 2001)




ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 4:18 am
As part of a tradition it was once more time for my bi-monthly shopping trip. Sometimes it’s close (Brussels or London) and sometimes it’s not so close (HKG) or this trip, NYC. These trips are always very short so I try to make the most of them. This time I was booked on the following (award) trip:

Sat. AMS-LHR
Sun LHR-JFK-LHR (BA1, BA116)
Mon LHR-AMS

The first part of the trip was uneventful, I used my AMS Privium card to skip the queue (http://www.schiphol.nl/privium). Left on time, landed on time and then had to wait 15 minutes for the steps to arrive as this bus was staying in LHR.

The original plan was to spend all night in London drinking, grabbing a movie and waiting in an internet café. By the time I landed in LHR (around 19:15) I was so tired I decided to use the LHR Hilton. I went inside and asked rates, they could only offer a rate of about 350 pounds. I then walked over to the sitting area and used my cellphone and laptop to book a room online at just 60 pounds. Got a nice room without an upgrade but did get breakfast included. Had a lovely nights sleep and an even better breakfast http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

After packing the few things I had brought I walked to the terminal. The walk from the terminal to the Hilton is only 5 minutes and is all in a tunnel like concourse. check in was pleasant, but then this was the first / Concorde check in area. Security at LHR was easy, nothing different than pre 9/11. I passed through some of the terminal shops and then walked to the Concorde lounge. The gate lady tried to send me to the downstairs lounge (first/gold) but when I pointed out I was on the BA1 she looked kind of surprised and apologized. The lounge was nothing special, it was pretty busy and the F&B was not as impressive as I had expected.

Boarding started at exactly 10:00 for pax in the back if the plane. This was my second time on Concorde so it was nothing new for me but seeing her and getting on board was once more a lovely experience. When on board I had the ever present OJ but skipped the canapés. Departure was spot on time with take 20 minutes later. Take off was a little weird as we were ready to roll we left the runway and went back to the end of the queue of other planes to let them take off, probably we were running a little early for our JFK arrival?

Take off is the most impressive part of flying her, it is almost twice the speed of a regular plane and makes a terrific noise (afterburners on). After 70 seconds of afterburner they are turned off, the plane slows down and you really feel her drop a bit. The rest of the flight was nothing special. The food was pretty bad (I had an English breakfast) although the drinks service made up for that.

At 09:23 we landed at JFK. Once more, landing is quite impressive as that also happens at great speed. After a short taxi we were in the dismal T7 at JFK where they are still busy with renovations (I think they have been at this for 3 years now…) Customs was very fast today, with my past experiences in mind I did not know what to expect, certainly because I was only flying up and down.. This time I was lucky, the agent asked the purpose of my visit, I said help “I’m here to help you by doing some shopping” He smiled, thanked me and wished me good shopping! In just 2 minutes I was out of the terminal building. Looks like Scotish red haired Concorde travelers were not being profiled that day http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I decided to take the bus downtown, traffic was good so at 10:40 I was in front of Grand Central. I didn’t know what to expect in NYC, I was surprised to notice almost nothing had changed. Seeing the skyline and missing the TT was weird but that was almost all there was to notice on any changes.

My quest for an Xbox started. I checked out all the regular stores (CompUSA, Virgin, HMV) all to no avail, I ended in an electronics store on Times Square where I bought one for $125 more than the regular retail price… But who cares, I am one of the first here in Holland to get one http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif

After even more shopping and a spot of lunch my feet told me it was time to quit. I added the final things on my list at Barnes and Noble and took the bus back to JFK. My past experiences told me that the bus would do T1-T6 before stopping at T7 so I managed to persuade the driver to stop at T7 first, much to the surprise of the other passengers… It amazing what a little persuading can accomplish http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

The terminal was very busy but luckily BA has a dedicated gold/first check in and security line. Several people tried to join this queue with silver cards etc.. but were send back to the other (very lone line). Security here was a joke, when bags were passing through I could see the x-ray agent looking around, chatting to colleagues and basically looking bored, real safe feeling I got from them… I was through in about 5 minutes and proceeded to the BA Concorde lounge as I was on a first class ticket. When I was in the lounge I unpacked all my shopping bags and tried to fit them in my shoulder bag (no way). I discovered that the Basic Instinct DVD I bought had an Ice Pick in the box (as in the movie), imagine security letting me though with that..

After a quick drink the desk agent came over and asked if I would like to be on an earlier flight into LHR, as I had tried to do this earlier when booking and again at LHR without luck I was surprised he managed. He even got me my favorite seat. First was pretty empty with just 5 pax in the cabin. After a quick dinner of Corn Chowder and Fillet of beef I slept for the entire flight being woken up 15 minutes before landing.

Once more the LHR-AMS trip was quick although very busy full of chatting businessmen and women. Without any hassle at customs in AMS I proceeded to my office and worked all day before falling in bed around 23:50. Needless to say I was very tired but content that I had managed to get everything on my shopping list.


Stay tuned for some photos and scans of the menu.


pegasus8228
Dec 13, 01, 4:49 am
thx for the great report.

Hilton at T4 is a good hotel. it is probably the best Hilton i have stayed at -- i am not a big fan of this chain.
i was put there by BA once (after some mishap in connection/baggage lost fiasco)
the dinner buffet includes whole lobsters!

the insight on the hotel pricing is also interesting. i didnt know the cell-phone connection bit-rate has improved so much now.

ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 4:53 am
I was using a GPRS connection, page loaded pretty fast http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif


ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 9:16 am
Well folks, for those who want to see my holiday snaps visit:

www.call2call.nl/concorde (http://www.call2call.nl/concorde)

But beware, there is also a recent photo of me there http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif

kanebear
Dec 13, 01, 10:11 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
I was using a GPRS connection, page loaded pretty fast http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cool.gif</font>

Your GPRS connection roams??? OOOOOOOOH I'm jealous!

ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 10:18 am
If only http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif I have had to get a seperate subscription in the UK just to get GPRS working...

rjh
Dec 13, 01, 11:07 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
... I then walked over to the sitting area and used my cellphone and laptop to book a room online at just 60 pounds. ...</font>


I enjoyed your well told report. Would you mention the site you used to book the discounted room, please?
Rich

ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 11:11 am
I just went to www.hilton.com (http://www.hilton.com) http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

rjh
Dec 13, 01, 11:19 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ScottC:
I just went to www.hilton.com (http://www.hilton.com)</font>

Ha Ha! Any chance you were able to check in at the discounted rate with the front desk person who quoted you the much higher rate?
Rich

ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 11:21 am
Yes, it was the same one http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif I think she had seen it too many times as she did not seem impressed..

travellin man
Dec 13, 01, 1:19 pm
Thanks for the trip report. I like reading reports like these because I can only DREAM about being able to hop the Concorde for a day of Christmas shopping in NYC and then "suffer" through BA First on the way home. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Hmmm... someday...

NYC1
Dec 13, 01, 3:31 pm
Very cool report and pictures.
How much was the ticket?

ScottC
Dec 13, 01, 3:34 pm
About $30 and 120000 miles http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

sarecca
Dec 13, 01, 9:17 pm
Great trip report. Thanks for the pics. Incidentally, how did you upload the pics? I am going next week and would love to send the FT board pics?

Sam

Wiirachay
Dec 13, 01, 11:12 pm
Awesome report! Wish I could do a day-trip across the pond. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

What did you think? Was the speed of Concorde worth it vs. flying double the time in a first class bed?

- Pat

ScottC
Dec 14, 01, 1:48 am
I just shot them on my digital camera and used and used frontpage to make a simple webpage. I then used frontpage again to upload them to my webserver.

celbrian
Dec 14, 01, 4:08 am
Cool report, thank you http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

Okay, I'm jaaaaaalous too!

Gaucho100K
Dec 14, 01, 12:57 pm
Great report.... thanks!!

Im also hoping to get on the Concorde on an award ticket sometime soon.... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

matahari
Dec 15, 01, 1:50 pm
Could you tell us how regular FIRST CLASS is on BA? I have enough miles for it but usually I prefer to SAVE my miles and fly economy. My sister flew Business/Club with British and said the food was not very good and the bed was not so comfortable. I am a bit nervous flying on the Concorde as it's so old now. Is it really worth it? I was told the seats are not very comfortable either. How were the loads on the Concorde? Thank you.

YVR Cockroach
Dec 15, 01, 3:52 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by matahari:
Could you tell us how regular FIRST CLASS is on BA? I have enough miles for it but usually I prefer to SAVE my miles and fly economy. My sister flew Business/Club with British and said the food was not very good and the bed was not so comfortable. </font>

Check out this trip report (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum81/HTML/001717.html). BA FC is superb. I agree food in BA BC isn't good but FC comfort, food, service, wine standards are many levels higher. Well worth the extra miles over BC/EC.

AAPlatinum
Dec 15, 01, 8:20 pm
You have airline seats in your flat? I'm soooo jealous!

Great report!

matahari
Dec 15, 01, 9:19 pm
Terenz thank you for the feedback. It's an additional 20000 miles I believe to fly F over Club transatlantically.

matahari
Dec 15, 01, 9:21 pm
Scott thank you for the wonderful report, menus and pictures. How does one copy a menu? Seems very complicated.

capetown
Dec 16, 01, 7:04 am
Matahari,

Is your post serious on how did Scott copy a menu http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

If so email one of us offline and we can tell you how it was done

Art

[This message has been edited by capetown (edited 12-16-2001).]

ScottC
Dec 16, 01, 7:07 am
I have an HP Digital Sender 9100 at my office, just pop it in and it makes a PDF out of it.

capetown
Dec 16, 01, 7:14 am
Scott,

What does call2call do? Does your company make or market GSM products?

(Sorry all for the off topic post)

Carioca Canuck
Dec 16, 01, 10:31 am
ScottC.....

Thanks for the report.

I am still laughing at your Hilton experience. 350 UK pounds is about 800 CDN.....you can rent my apartment for a month for that price....and pay all the bills that go with it as well. Unbelievable.

Your photos from the Concorde were also great.....for now I can only look...but some day I will be in that seat too.

[This message has been edited by Carioca Canuck (edited 12-16-2001).]

ScottC
Dec 16, 01, 12:31 pm
Thanks for the offer, if I am ever there I shall gladly take you up on that offer. Where will you stay for that month? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

Darren
Dec 16, 01, 1:07 pm
Scott, fantastic report. Thanks for sharing.

matahari
Dec 16, 01, 1:23 pm
Where can one rent an apt for C$800/month. In Vancouver?????? Here it's only enough for less than one week.

matahari
Dec 16, 01, 1:25 pm
Thank you Scott for the information. I am very impressed!!!!

Carioca Canuck
Dec 16, 01, 9:08 pm
matahari...actually, I pay $660 CDN plus $50 for heated undergound parking for my tenth floor one bedroom apartment in downtown Calgary.

I know NY rent's are absurd...but so is our weather and income tax structure.

YVR Cockroach
Dec 18, 01, 12:38 pm
How much was the lowest advertised price for XBoxes in the NYC area? Up here, they're asking CAD 565 (about USD 356) for the things with extra controller + 1 game.

ScottC
Dec 18, 01, 12:44 pm
Street price was $299 although most stores advertised with bundles for around $350 including 2 games, an extra controller and a memory card (usually worth around $150, although not a single store had them in stock... The price you are quoting is very low

YVR Cockroach
Dec 18, 01, 1:00 pm
I was curious to see how prices compare. The price I'm quoting is from a large grocery superstore that's an extension of a national grocery chain in Canada. Not sure what the prices offered by other retailers are.

ScottC
May 9, 02, 6:11 pm
Bumping this cause many fellow FT members are also going to get to enjoy her soon http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

kanebear
May 9, 02, 10:09 pm
So does your GPRS connection roam yet?

ScottC
May 10, 02, 3:02 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kanebear:
So does your GPRS connection roam yet?</font>

Only when they want it to. (trials, within a month I'll have europewide roaming on it (they say))

But PLEASE stay on topic MR.Meatman http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif



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