Trip Reports - All I really wanted was status on a "big" airline




ClueByFour
Mar 25, 02, 11:13 am
Having conned AA into extending my GLD membership an extra year (originally obtained via challange), I was not suprised to learn that I was one of the few and the proud who was not extended thru this year. So, at the end of last month, said status went "poof." The original root cause of getting status with AA was to ensure that I'd have somewhere to go way back when That Airline I'm Never Flying Again was going to borg my beloved US. Recently, AA announced one helluva fare sale to the west coast from PIT. My fellow PIT victims will understand that $200 to the west coast from here is about as good as it ever gets, so I decided to make a run at PLT on AA (as an aside, US, in their infinite wisdom, did not match said fares, preferring to continue to hold the loyal PIT lemmings hostage, but I digress. They just lost a bunch of my business).

So, the following series of reports will detail my efforts to rack up 10k q-points on AA in 90 days. First of the set was a weekend trip to SFO.

I had a co-worker of mine run me over to PIT around 1400 on Friday, on the theory that without status the whole process of flying might indeed suck as badly as some of the mainstream press might lead me to believe. Security at PIT sucks equally for everybody, as the only "expedite" lane is for flight crew--but I witnessed the coolest move I've seen yet at the security check: I guess that the airlines are only allowed to control the folks who check IDs and "assign" a line. The screening itself is now apparently under federal oversight. This guy gets his ticket and ID checked, and proceeds (over the outraged objections of every Hutleigh employee in site) to the expedite line. Oddly enough, I cleared security without problems, and made my way airside.

PIT has 4 jet concourses. A & B are US. C is US International, and *A (UA plus UA handling ops for AC). D is "everybody else." AA is all the way at the end of the D concourse. I proceeded out to the gate to discover that they were beginning to think about volunteers. I tried to work an early deal with the gate agent to take the bump and be interlined onto the US direct flight to SFO 90 minutes after my scheduled AA departure, but they were not sold on the idea. Figuring that I might later get my wish, I headed down to the nearest TGI Fridays for a beer (Yuengling) and a smoke. While there, I called techgirl and arranged to meet in the Admiral's Club at DFW, and chatted with a (the?) friendly Huntleigh employee, who was somewhat phased after checking in two full 727 Cancun charters full of spring break revelers.

Around 35 minutes before departure, I headed back to the gate. Glancing at my boarding pass, I noticed that I was in boarding group 4, which struck me as odd as my seat was closer to the back of this particular super 80. As it turns out, this was not a problem as groups 3 and 4 were called at the same time. I did enjoy watching the gate agent try to get the kiosk working (ctrl-alt-del--lockup--open kiosk--reboot) and the security screening selection process (pair of screeners working folks over and then yelling "pull another one!"). Settled into my seat after muscling my rollaboard into the not-yet-more-roomed overhead until they closed the door, at which point I grabbed the empty aisle seat on the other (3 across) side--after checking this with the window seat occupant. Considering they were allowing me to negotiate a bump at the gate, I was suprised at the number of empty seats.

AA does something I've not experienced in some time at PIT--they power back the S-80 off the gate (pop the thrust reversers and goose the engines to roll back in leiu of a push from a tug). Takeoff and departure were smooth. I always enjoy the flight crew annoucements on AA--they like to tell you the gross takeoff weight of the plane, flight time and computed speeds, cruising altitude and the like. Service was a bag of snack mix (roughly analagous to my beloved US sky mix) and 2 rounds of drinks. About 90 minutes into the flight I'd concluded that if you are going to fly coach, you are nuts not to be on AA, as MRTC really does make a difference (the adjustable headrests are also a nice touch). Pilot announced the approach from the north, and we were on the ground in DFW about 5 minutes ahead of schedule, although this was pretty much shot with the DFW taxi (forever, as usual).

Trooping off into the C concourse at DFW, I called Techgirl who was having some parking woes, so I took a peek at the nearest security line and decided I could risk a jaunt outside for a smoke. While there, Techgirl found me and we went back in to clear security en route to the Admiral's Club in C. Since I was too busy gabbing, I forgot to empty pockets and whatnot and dinged the metal detector. While being wanded (all airports could learn from how DFW is doing this--polite screeners, asking if they can touch you, having you face your luggage, etc), I noticed the rent-an-non-english-speaker tearing thru the top pocket of my rollaboard. After I passed the wand test, I asked the problem. She held out my zippo lighter and said "empty the gas." I pulled it open and pointed out that it is one big wick inside, and would therefore be tough to empty. I then asked for a place to stash it until I Techgirl left so that I would not have to pitch it. Screener continues to babble about "empty the gas." By this point, the befuddled GSC came over and I repeated my request to hold the thing until my friend left. Fortunately, the Guardsman on the checkpoint came over and said "It's a friggen zippo, not a torch or camping torch. If it lights, let him thru." I lit it, snapped it shut, smiled at the GSC, thanked the Guardsman (who was shaking his head and laughing) and proceeded to the Admirals Club. By this point, we were down to 25 minutes until boarding. A power-half-hour of 3 Shiner Bocks for me and 2 for Techgirl followed while we caught up about life as of late. We walked to my gate where boarding had long since commenced, bid each other farewell, and I boarded (grabbing my bistro bag on the way down the jetway).

I think (having not seen the outside of the bird) that this was an ex-TWA 757, as while the seats had been MRTC-ized in terms of space, they were not the new blue variety, and the overheads looked to be stock 757 models. Fortunately, I had an open seat next to me. That was the good news. After a 20 minute taxi, the pilot announces that SFO has flow control, and we can't get off the ground for another hour. So he rolled into a penalty box apron area, killed the engines and fired up the APU. AA handled it pretty well--threw in a video program and came around with water and OJ. I made a few phone calls (another good move on their part--allowing electronic usage) and killed the remainder of my book and most of the contents of my bistro bag (eating the turkey sandwich was a bad move as I'd discover later). About 40 minutes hence, we were cleared to leave, and the pilot promised he'd try to make up some time en route. Takeoff was quick and we turned west. Upon reaching cruising altitude, the pilot came back on to annouce that he was going to try really hard to make up time, but this would probably result in a bumpy ride. Nobody complained and the ride was not that bumpy. As it turned out, he made good time to the bay area, but we ended up circling a couple of times before a pretty choppy descent into SFO. Taxi was long, and we hung off the gate for 5 minutes, waiting for somebody to do something, apparently.

I made my way thru security, where BingoSF was waiting to meet me for an evening of (suprise!) drinks in SFO. As an aside, I'm thinking that AA may be increasing my MoJo count by a factor of magnitude, since this is the first time I can ever remember being met at two different airports in one single day by beautiful women (never happened that way on US.....) Proceeded into San Francisco for some late night libation. By this point, I was ready to pass out (having consumed a turkey sandwich and a gratis sixer of Amstel on the plane) and still having the body clock set to EST. Bailed the bar at around 1am or so PST.

Saturday night brought me to yet another FT dinner, this one the brainchild of kluau88
. Upon arrival at Fringale, bluau88, SFOJFK, Horizons, HollyHP, BingoSF and I met and ran into a bit of trouble regarding our reservation. We hopped back in the respective cars and headed down to Momo's (IIRC), where we enjoyed dinner (I had a fair-middlin swordfish). Most everybody then proceeded out to the SFO Marriot to await Rudi's arrival. I turned into a pumpkin and ended up leaving at around 10pm PST (body clock and alcohol induced fatigue).

Sunday morning found me back at SFO about 90 minutes prior to my DFW bound departure. Cleared security without a hitch--well, the rent-a-dweeb almost did not let me thru with merely an AA printed itin/receipt on ticket stock, but I was not subject to the secondary search BS. I proceeded to the gate to find the line to check in was 12 people deep and moving at a snail's pace (one agent). I finally got my BP at flight - 29 minutes. I discovered that my seat had been changed and I was all the way in the rear of the aircraft, right beside the engines. When I inquired as to what was going on, the agent told me that since I did not check in 30 minutes prior, my original seat had been released. I then pointed out that I was physically at the gate 60 minutes prior, but due to AA's staffing problem I was not checked into the computer until 29 minutes prior. I then realized that they had also moved my seat on the DFW-PIT leg. Note to self: write the letter to AA.....

Boarding proceeded smoothly, despite a full fight (and the bistro bag routine on the jetway). This particular S-80 had the new overheads, so space was not a problem. Despite being a "full flight", I at least had an open middle seat next to me. The bad news was that I was 1 row in front of the engine, so I fully anticipated being deaf by DFW. Takeoff and taxi were quick, and the pilot informed us that he was estimating an arrival almost 40 minutes early. Cool. I killed the contents of the bistro bag, enjoyed a couple of Diet Coke's (long weekend of libation and timezone changes, so I needed the boost) and read my book. The approach into DFW was bumpy and involved several pretty dramatic thrust corrections and an arresting wire upon landing (the captain was kind enough to actually come on the PA during the taxi an annouce that the first officer handled the landing http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ). In his defense, it looked like about a 30 mph crosswind at DFW....

I deplaned to find Techgirl and kokonutz in the DFW chapel, err, a nearby bar (with much help--I had to be instructed as to which way to turn and look from a distance of 20 yards via cell phone--nothing like a long weekend...). Apparently, these two were on their way to Austin http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. I left most of my stuff with them and shot outside for a smoke. Upon returning and clearing security (subject to a wanding again because the detector pinged on the foil in my pack of smokes), we all headed up to the Admirals Club for a few more Shiner Bocks. To my shock and amazement, Techgirl decided that they were not going to Austin after all, and had the full-Y tickets refunded http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

After another power-half-hour of discussion, I bid the shepherd and her sheep goodbye and
cruised to the gate for my flight to PIT. I arrived right as group 3 was called to board. I trooped back to the same aisle seat by the engine as I had to DFW and stowed my stuff. Power back (there it is again) was quick, taxi was not. Eventually, we were in the air and PIT bound, when the pilot announced a short flight of 1hr 58m. I killed the rest of my book and snoozed thru the beverage/snack mix service. Arrival into PIT was on 28R with a relatively long taxi. Grabbed a cab back to the office (and hence my car) and drove home.

My overall impressions of AA are the same as when I had a brief flirt with them a couple of years ago--the service is very similar across all flights--not nearly the same number of subtle differences in the way they do things onboard as say, US, CO, and the rest of the majors. And, I'm convinced that if you are stuck in coach, it might as well be on AA--on the theory that any MRTC seat as almost as good as a typical exit row or the E+ fud on That Airline I'm Never Flying Again. A good trip.

Parts II, III, and IV to follow.


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[This message has been edited by ClueByFour (edited 03-25-2002).]


GregL
Mar 25, 02, 11:57 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
I think (having not seen the outside of the bird) that this was an ex-TWA 757, as while the seats had been MRTC-ized in terms of space, they were not the new blue variety, and the overheads looked to be stock 757 models. </font>

TWA and AA planes are not integrated into one fleet at this point. AA planes are still operated by AA, TWA planes are still operated by TWA planes.

Unless your flight was in the 2600-3200 range, you were on an AA aircraft.

Greg

Worldtraveler36
Mar 25, 02, 1:19 pm
ClueByFour-

Good report and well written. Impressed. I can learn so much from these reports it is not even funny and I do hope that the airline execs in the Ivory Towers are reading these.

Sorry about your losing Gold but then was surprised that they had issued you the "Platinum challenge" as you usually get one shot at the brass ring http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

They should have just automatically extended your status a la September 11th. I am afraid to fly, etc. It works. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif For my dad and a few others, it is true.

As for AA MRTC, yes, I think AA has the best coach product in the world. The seat is 90%, the rest, whatever. I can BMO/BYO.

Just curious, if you don't mind my asking and wondering if there is a trip report about this. Why the fuming with Untied? I don't care for them. Their Sh*ttle by Untied here in California drove the masses away, it was essentially Southwest in UA uniforms and attitude. I would love to hear more about that, if you don't mind. thanks.

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ClueByFour
Mar 25, 02, 1:43 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Worldtraveler36:
Sorry about your losing Gold but then was surprised that they had issued you the "Platinum challenge" as you usually get one shot at the brass ring http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

They should have just automatically extended your status a la September 11th. I am afraid to fly, etc. It works. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif For my dad and a few others, it is true.

As for AA MRTC, yes, I think AA has the best coach product in the world. The seat is 90%, the rest, whatever. I can BMO/BYO.

Just curious, if you don't mind my asking and wondering if there is a trip report about this. Why the fuming with Untied? I don't care for them. Their Sh*ttle by Untied here in California drove the masses away, it was essentially Southwest in UA uniforms and attitude. I would love to hear more about that, if you don't mind. thanks.

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Regarding my AA status: 2000 I got GLD on a challange. I then had a monster european trip booked at the beginning of 2001 on OW, and pointed this out to them. They renewed my status. Even though the popped "everybody" thru 2003, they told me that, in effect, "we already gave you a freebie, but will let you try the PLT challange" (at the time, AA saw that I had all but maybe 500 of the 10000 required q-points booked and paid for, which might have had something to do with it).

Regarding That Other Airline: they have lost/misconnected me or my baggage on every trip I've had on that airline since my youth (the string dates back to 1989). The latest gaffe was losing my luggage between PIT and MKE via ORD and misconnecting me in ORD and wanting me to sit for 6 hours (it's a 90 minute drive) for the next available seat. The luggage did not show for almost 2 days after. I never put up a trip report because I'm not into trashing airlines as badly as I would have let them have it, and I don't want to offend certain devotees of "that airline." http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.



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FlyByMike
Mar 25, 02, 2:07 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Worldtraveler36:
Sorry about your losing Gold but then was surprised that they had issued you the "Platinum challenge" as you usually get one shot at the brass ring http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.
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From what I've read in the AA forum, you can take the challenge as many times as you want. It's when you're flat out comped without a challenge that it's usually a one shot deal.

chexfan
Mar 25, 02, 4:08 pm
I'm looking into copyright violations with the title of this trip report.

Worldtraveler36
Mar 25, 02, 5:06 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
I never put up a trip report because I'm not into trashing airlines as badly as I would have let them have it, and I don't want to offend certain devotees of "that airline." http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif.

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&gt;&gt;&gt; OH please, pretty please http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. I would enjoy seeing it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Thanks for the info, to all of you. Good to know that you can do a challenge anytime. Not sure if I would go that far, as people on the AA board were flatly turned down for the challenge.

I am hoping that Northwest will give me another shot. I don't mind a challenge, but a comp. is nice.

Again, good report.

techgirl
Mar 25, 02, 7:06 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
I deplaned to find Techgirl and kokonutz in the DFW chapel, err, a nearby bar (with much help--I had to be instructed as to which way to turn and look from a distance of 20 yards via cell phone--nothing like a long weekend...). Apparently, these two were on their way to Austin http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif. I left most of my stuff with them and shot outside for a smoke. Upon returning and clearing security (subject to a wanding again because the detector pinged on the foil in my pack of smokes), we all headed up to the Admirals Club for a few more Shiner Bocks. To my shock and amazement, Techgirl decided that they were not going to Austin after all, and had the full-Y tickets refunded http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.
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It appears that there was a passenger who CLAIMED to be techgirl at DFW on Sunday. No one really knows for sure, as she had no Admirals Club card on her person and the American Airlines counter agents refused to look up the AAdvantage profile of this imposter. In fact, the name on that DFW-AUS ticket wasn't even spelled correctly.

Me thinks security at DFW was successfully breached yesterday. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

studley
Mar 25, 02, 7:17 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
The approach into DFW was bumpy and involved several pretty dramatic thrust corrections and an arresting wire upon landing (the captain was kind enough to actually come on the PA during the taxi an annouce that the first officer handled the landing http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif ). In his defense, it looked like about a 30 mph crosswind at DFW....</font>

So you had the "normal" Sunday landing weather at DFW. I keep saying I'm going to fly back on a Monday, but never do. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif



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jsmeeker
Mar 25, 02, 7:47 pm
I've never heard an AA crew give info about the weight of the airplane. They always do the flight time and the planned cruise alttitude. One time, way up to FL410 on a 757 (LAX to DFW), another, way down at FL210 on a F100 (DAL to LAX). Hearing speed isn't uncommon either. But like I said, never the weight of the plane.

And nothing like a landing in a good, stiff crosswind. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

Hopefully, you get the Plat. status on AA.

onedog
Mar 26, 02, 1:01 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
...I'm thinking that AA may be increasing my MoJo count by a factor of magnitude, since this is the first time I can ever remember being met at two different airports in one single day by beautiful women (never happened that way on US.....)...</font>

And to think that Mrs. Onedog still thinks I fly AA because of MRTC! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

ClueByFour
Apr 9, 02, 7:21 pm
Second in a series of the short way to PLT on AA.

I finally managed to squeeze some business travel this year (group budget has been decimated by more important things, like layoffs and the like), but I needed to be in the LA area for a few hours on Monday morning. So, on Sunday, I found my way down to PIT and parked in the extended term parking.

I entered the landside terminal to find the line at the AA counter looking pretty insane. Not wanting to have anything to do with that, I whipped out the e-ticket itin, and headed thru security. Got to the gate, checked in for my 1600 flight to DFW. Returned to TGI Fridays for a beer and smoke. Return to the gate at around 1330, to find that the posted departure time had been pushed to 1455. I asked the agent, who said to ignore it.

As we boarded the plane, I was on the phone, as I know better than to ignore FLIFO. Sure enough, once everybody boards the captain announces that we will be delayed an hour due to wx in DFW, however, AA is holding everything at DFW for an hour, so as not to break connections. Not being a fool, he lets everybody off the aircraft but wants to keep people near the gate. I head back to TGI friday's to drink another beer, get another smoke, and make some calls (calling all my elite airline friends figuring out what my options are if I'm tanked by AA--I really need to be in LA this particular evening). Back to the gate around 1435. Back onto the plane.

As we board this time, I reach my seat, to get a cell phone call from AA's flight status notification--my DFW-LAX leg has been cancelled (already? I think the equipment was to be a 767, so we've inconvienced a couple of hundred folks already, but...) I fight my way off the plane, and explain to the gate agent why I'm getting off the plane. After confirming that I have no luggage, they rebook me thru STL. I'm now somewhat annoyed, as I have about an hour drive after I get to LAX and have to be up at 5 am PDT, but I'm still in the game, so to speak (FWIW, I tried to get 240'd onto the US direct to LAX, but the GA indicated that I'd still reach LAX within 4 hours of the original arrival time....).

Back to Friday's for another beer and some smokes (a pattern, perhaps?) and some more phone calls to ensure that I could get out of STL if that bombed). Back to the gate. The departure time of PIT-STL has been pushed about 35 minutes due to the late inbound. At this point, I now have like 30 minutes in STL and have to OJ it from the far end of B to the far end of C. Starting to look dicey. After a fashion (and BSing with the gate screeners to ensure that I'm not grabbed for a secondary), the boarding process for this ERJ (Chataqua/AA connection) ensues. AA actually uses jetbridges to the jungle jets in PIT--a nice touch.

I settle into 11A (IIRC--the exit row seat on the single side--a nice touch by the GA who rebooked me). My rollaboard is seized to go into the hold, and eventually the plane is buttoned up and we are off. Fairly short taxi and takeoff via 28 Right. At ten thousand, the F/A ran a pop/pretzel service thru the cabin, and I worked my way thru a Stephen Coonts technothriller (my taste in plane literature runs toward things like Clancy, Larry Bond, Coonts, and the consummate plane author--Grisham). Sure enough, we are on the ground in STL about 1.40 hence.

I emerge from B6, dive into the adjacent "sin-bin" and suck down a smoke. Not thinking, I neglect to check the FLIFO monitors and haul butt down to C36, only to find that (you guessed it), the inbound was delayed, so I'm not boarding for LAX until 9.30 or thereabouts. Off to the Sam Adams brewpub for yet another beer, and a breadbowl of chicken noodle soup (yummy), since this flight is not sceduled for any food.

Come boarding time, I return to the gate. Since I'm in group 5, I have a fairly long wait. Equipment was a TWA 757--I love how they accomplished MRTC on the TWA planes--make the seatbacks paper thin. I settle into 11C, and we eventually leave (note that all the STL seems to have been a result of the rain in STL). Fairly quick taxi and takeoff, and eventually the F/As got around to serving a drink (no rush, it's not like we sat around in STL for an hour or anything....) I finished my book, and tried to sleep--no dice. Ride was pretty bumpy, and the F/As were constantly admonishing people who had the cajones to get up to use the lav during smooth spots (pilots did not turn off the seatbelt sign).

Eventually we arrive in LAX. By this point, it is about 3hrs 40min after my original arrival time, and 11.30 pacific. I'm rather annoyed. I make my way outside T-4 to the hertz shuttle. Arriving at my prescribed stall (#1 gold service), I find that Hertz has decided to ignore my request for neverlost (despite the fact that I called them from both STL and PIT to update my arrival info and was assured that neverlost was still "confirmed") to find a Nissan Maxima SE, complete with the large engine and 17 inch wheels. Okay, so I won't write a letter this time (this on a "compact" rate). I jump in, and head for ONT.

About 0040 PDT (0340 EDT, for those keeping score), I arrive at the Hilton Ontario Airport. They had upgraded me to a smoking room on the executive floor (the fact that such a beast exists, in California of all places, boggles the mind). No breakfast coupons were offered, since I'd have use of the lounge. Of course, the lounge did not open until 0600, which did me no good. The receptionist asked if I "really wanted" a 4am wakeup call. Yup.

Off to the room, where I'm greated by an open balcony door, and a couple of the biggest darned wasps I've ever seen. I kill those two beasties, shut the door, and proceed to fall asleep. Sort of. You see, this hotel is so close to the I-10 that you get constant traffic roar all night. I don't want to risk earplugs, as I've got to hear the alarm and wakeup call.

After about 2 hours of measurable sleep, I'm up and off to my work engagement.

To sum this up--AA wants me to fly AAmerican. Just don't count on getting anywhere when it is rAAining in DFW or STL. Avoid the Hilton ONT at all costs (had I known this, I'd have done the D-tree in ONT).

In our next installment--10 more hours in LA, and an FT lunch.


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jburke5
Apr 9, 02, 11:35 pm
Okay... I am a newbie just starting to fly a lot and I'm on chapter three of "Frequent Flyer's Guide for Dummies". You wrote:

Quote:
"I'd have somewhere to go way back when That Airline I'm Never Flying Again was going to borg my beloved US."
End Quote.

Exactly which airline are you "Never Flying again" and referring too?
Also, what the heck is Hokey?

Really enjoyed your trip notes. I am learning alot from everyone's experiences!

Thanks.

JB

[Edited for spelling and slang.]

[This message has been edited by jburke5 (edited 04-09-2002).]

Delta141
Apr 10, 02, 3:08 am
jburke5

1) UA

2) Post this one on Continental's board

ClueByFour
Apr 22, 02, 12:18 pm
I was having a good feeling about the next step of my AA conquest, which, for the most part, was later upheld by AA. Headed out to the aiport to catch the now familiar (to me) 4pm departure for DFW. I tried to run thru the US priority security lane with an AA itin (I'm a US preferred member, and the e-mail from US states that a preferrred card will get you access to the priority security line). Huntleigh weenie gave me guff, so I asked for GSC, to whom I produced a copy of the e-mail from US Airways, with the appropriate section highlighted (think I did not see this coming?). I was allowed to use the lane, but they subsequently took their merry time ripping my rollaboard apart. Et tu, huntleigh/US. Then again, I did this at PIT knowing full well that the wait in the rest of the lines was 2 minutes, simply to see if I could (why does that bear defecate in the woods, again?).

Proceeding airside, I found myself in TGI Friday's in the D concourse, enjoying a beer and a smoke. Cruised on down to the gate to check in about 35 minutes before the flight--AA was busily rebooking pax from the cancelled PIT-STL leg on the next desk over (including some doosies--240-ing people onto the US flight to CDG and LGW, and trying to get a guy to HKG... ouch). I think I was slated to board with group 4, but they called 3-5 at once, so I proceeded on down to 12B. Stowed my rollaboard and chatted with my seat opponent (headed to Reno on a package deal). Powerback (AA powers the MD-80s back without a tug in PIT) was quick, taxi was not. I don't think the pilot was familiar with PIT's layout. He was headed down taxiway F, and we could see departures on 28R. He makes the left at the P intersection, and darn it if we did not swing 180 degrees around on 28C (and I could have sworn I saw a US A-330 at the far end of 28C raring to go (at this point, I'm wishing for a scanner so I can tell if this guy just rolled out onto an active rwy...). We sat on P for awhile (presumably while the PIT ground controllers ripped captain fantastic a new one), and finally departed. After 10k, pilot comes on the PA and announces that due to the ground controllers in PIT (riiiiiight) and some weather, we are going to be late into DFW. Great.

Flight service was fairly standard AA coach--two rounds of drinks, but they did offer a second round of "chips" (nasty snack mix roughly the same as US skymix), which was new to me. Arrival into Dallas was at the scheduled time, and my seatmate figured we'd be close to on time on the gate. I informed her that since we landed on runway 17L, the taxi was going to take some time. And it did.

At this point, I hauled butt over to the trAAin and over to the A terminal, where I met a few TAPs for a quick (and I do mean Q-U-I-C-K) chug o' Shiner Bock and smoke in the Admiral's Club. Then it was off to the gate for my SFO connection.

They were calling final boarding as I approached the gate, leading me to believe that I'd end up gate checking my rollaboard. Not so--this was one empty 757. In fact, after the door was buttoned, I asked the nearest FA if I could snag the empty exit row. I also pre-informed her that I know the exit row drill and that yes, I know they have to ask. She chuckled and said no problem. Taxi and takeoff were quick by DFW standards, and the pilot announced a quick 3 hour flying time to SFO. Meal service was the AA bistro bag (something approaching a turkey deli sandwich, chips, and a cookie). I enjoyed an Amstel (gratis, I might add) and fired up my laptop to get some work done. Sure enough, 2.5 hours later, the cabin crew was getting things in shape for our arrival. This flight was so fast that we actually enjoyed a "pinky" (landing with a shade of pink in the quickly darkening western sky) with a great view of the Bay area on our approach to SFO. Greaser of a landing, and a quick taxi to the gate.

With the exception the MD-80 captain and/or FO who cannot navigate around PIT without a "follow-me" truck and/or a wingwalker, this was a pretty good trip on AA. Forthcoming tomorrow: my return (and a tale of woe about wishing I was already PLT involving a 3 class 767).


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PeachesBB
Apr 22, 02, 2:22 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
At this point, I hauled butt over to the trAAin and over to the A terminal, where I met a few TAPs for a quick (and I do mean Q-U-I-C-K) chug o' Shiner Bock and smoke in the Admiral's Club.</font>

I feel compelled to correct you on a minor detail. I am a Poor Okie Transplant (POT), therefore, I cannot possibly be a TAP. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

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BingoSF
Apr 22, 02, 3:08 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
(at this point, I'm wishing for a scanner so I can tell if this guy just rolled out onto an active rwy...).
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Two words: Channel Nine http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

ClueByFour
Apr 22, 02, 3:48 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BingoSF:
Two words: Channel Nine http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

Flying the friendly skies without channel 9--75% of the time (http://chexfan.tripod.com/chan9.htm).

They (UA) don't get off plane of the gate the other %25.

*duck*

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techgirl
Apr 22, 02, 3:55 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
At this point, I hauled butt over to the trAAin and over to the A terminal, where I met a few TAPs for a quick (and I do mean Q-U-I-C-K) chug o' Shiner Bock and smoke in the Admiral's Club. Then it was off to the gate for my SFO connection.
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You neglected to mention that beautiful OJ sprint you were doing through the A terminal.

See, Peaches and I were chilling at gate 23 across from the Admirals Club while looking off in the direction of the TrAAin to see when CBF would come up the escalator so we could go into the AC for a Shiner or two.

We already had a couple of margaritas in us, so I was dozing/watching people get off the escalator when suddenly the Peachy one nudges me and said "was that a ClueByFour that just ran by?" I look up to see CBF doing a touchdown sprint down the concourse towards his departure gate (where boarding would not commence for another 15 minutes).

A quick call to his cell phone confirmed that he did not TRUST me to give him correct information on his departure gate/time DESPITE the fact that I had talked to him ten minutes prior on his cell phone as they were taxiing and confirmed that there was equipment at the gate, that the CORRECT type of equipment was at the gate, that there was no other flight at that gate, and that the flight at that gate was scheduled to depart on time.

Geez! Where's the trust? You would think I had never flown out of DFW before! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

ClueByFour
Apr 22, 02, 4:03 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:

Geez! Where's the trust? You would think I had never flown out of DFW before! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif</font>

All kinds of trust--just checking you (once!)--after all, you have started flying that airline, so I had to make sure the brain rot is localized. Won't happen again http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

*ducking again*
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BizJet
Apr 22, 02, 4:44 pm
Thanks again, CBF

ClueByFour
Apr 23, 02, 12:16 am
After having enjoyed a wonderful weekend in the Bay area (including a trip to see some redwoods and the odd In n' Out Burger), I found myself at SFO for my return. AA had two Y check in setups running--one for people like me who don't have the decency to show up 3 hours before my flight and one for those who do. The trick to getting in this line is to look confused at the guy standing there opening and closing the rope line until he asks you when your flight is--give him a time within the hour and presto!, you are in the line (one would think that AA would install kiosks at someplace like SFO, but I digress). After obtaining my BPs and wondering why the heck the weekend seemed to fly by so fast, I was off to security. I was only 6 or 7th in line, but things were moving at a snail's pace, as the screeners the AA terminal at SFO like to BS as much about their weekends as they do screen.

Boarding commenced right on time, and I boarded in group 4 (grabbing my bistro bag on the way down the jetway). The equipment for this DFW flight was a 3 class 767--before closing the door, the agents came thru coach and seemed to yank EXPs and PLTs up to business (at that point, I wished I had completed the PLT challange already....

I knew things were going downhill when my seatmate arrived--he settled in and began hunting thru the seatback pocket (and then my seatback pocket for the airsick bag. No dice for him--and it took me about 30 seconds to figure out what he was going for, as he spoke little English. Great.

Taxi and takeoff were fairly smooth--the pilot announced a quick 2hr 50min flight to DFW. I decided to kill the time by munching on the crud in the bistro bag and reading a book. I passed on seeing eye on AAmerican for the 5th time in a month (I'd give an extra 5 bucks/segment on mid/transcons for a real movie). Two drink services were offered, with a coffee/water service in between. My seat opponent did manage to dump half a cup of coffee on my leg, the seatback, and the floor trying to stuff the Sunday SFO Chronicle into the seatback pocket behind the tray table..... Approach and landing into DFW were smooth, with a quick taxi (by DFW standards, anyway).

Having about three hours to kill, I found my way to the curb, where I was met by a fellow FTer (name deleted to protect the guilty) with a sixer of Shiner Bock. Cold. In the car. We promptly killed the Shiner, and proceeded to lunch (where a couple more pints of Shiner and some flaming tobacco products--and some food, too http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif were consumed ). Upon returning to DFW (circling the terminal to ensure timely disposal of the last of the Shiner), I was ready to run the gaunlet into security.

This turned out to be uneventful (a new experience for me post-9/11). Rolled to the gate right as boarding had commenced for this MD-80 enroute to PIT. Of course, I was in group 5, but still managed to find space for my rollaboard. I settled in for the looooooooong taxi and takeoff to the north.

Two drink services ensued--the second was cut short, as the captain instructed the FAs to get things buttoned down early, as there were t-storms on our approach into PIT. I was unimpressed by the bumps, but the couple next to me turned green as soon as the captain made his announcement (despite his repeated statements about "only being cautious"). Arrival into PIT was almost 30 minutes early, and the taxi to the gate was quick (our pilot for this evening, unlike my departure flight, apparently knew his way around the airport). I stopped in the Sam Adams brewpub for a smoke and a pint (figuring myself to be on a roll, and my ride was running late).

All in all, a much better trip on AA than my last transcon set o' flights. For my next flight, I'll give them a chance on something with a more US-like stage length...


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tom911
Apr 23, 02, 1:01 am
What is it about Shiner Bock? I was at NCAA Swimming in Austin last month and had a pint with a great BBQ dinner, and my friends there said I should take home a case. Is it the recognized state beer of Texas? Should we make it the official beer of Flyer Talk? Is it sold anywhere but Texas? Do you have to be Texan to really appreciate it? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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techgirl
Apr 23, 02, 7:09 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
Having about three hours to kill, I found my way to the curb, where I was met by a fellow FTer (name deleted to protect the guilty) with a sixer of Shiner Bock. Cold. In the car. We promptly killed the Shiner, and proceeded to lunch (where a couple more pints of Shiner and some flaming tobacco products--and some food, too http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif were consumed ). Upon returning to DFW (circling the terminal to ensure timely disposal of the last of the Shiner), I was ready to run the gaunlet into security.</font>

I think that is what you call Texas Hospitality... I mean, doesn't everyone sit around drinking Shiner on Sundays?

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techgirl
Apr 23, 02, 7:12 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by tom911:
What is it about Shiner Bock? I was at NCAA Swimming in Austin last month and had a pint with a great BBQ dinner, and my friends there said I should take home a case. Is it the recognized state beer of Texas? Should we make it the official beer of Flyer Talk? Is it sold anywhere but Texas? Do you have to be Texan to really appreciate it? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif</font>

Yes, Shiner has somehow become the state beer here. I have suggested in one of Catman's past thread (with some support from FTers NOT from Texas, that yes, it should be the official FT beer. I do believe you can get it outside of Texas (probably at places that "import") and no, you don't have to be from Texas, although the best way to drink one is to come to DFW and drink one with ME. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

ClueByFour
Apr 23, 02, 9:58 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by techgirl:
I do believe you can get it outside of Texas (probably at places that "import") and no, you don't have to be from Texas, although the best way to drink one is to come to DFW and drink one with ME. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif</font>

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prncess674
Apr 23, 02, 4:35 pm
One note on Shiner being an import...

Now contrary to every Texans belief that Texas is an independent country, according to my last US History class in college, Texas is still part of the USA.

I digress. I became a fan of Shiner while living in Texas for three years, so one night I was home in New Orleans and I ordered a Shiner at a local bar. Big sign over the bar says Domestic - $2.50 and Imports - $3.00. I gave the guy a $5 and all I get back is $2. I asked about my change he says that Shiner is import. I suppose he was taken with the idea that Texas really is an independent nation and they did have to "import" that beer.

techgirl
Apr 23, 02, 5:20 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by prncess674:
Now contrary to every Texans belief that Texas is an independent country, according to my last US History class in college, Texas is still part of the USA. </font>

Really? Wow... I student taught Texas history and my professor SWORE to me that was MUCH more important than US history. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

studley
Apr 24, 02, 9:43 pm
It's Like a Whole Other Country! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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studley
Apr 24, 02, 9:52 pm
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by PeachesBB:
I feel compelled to correct you on a minor detail. I am a Poor Okie Transplant (POT), therefore, I cannot possibly be a TAP. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif</font>

I'm signing you up for the Honorary Membership. I think you've more than earned it. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

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pitflyer
Apr 25, 02, 10:27 am
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by studley:


It's Like a Whole Other Country! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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No doubt. I'm taking my mom and sister from New York City (like those Pace Salsa commercials) to their first trip to 'Down Under' or Dallas, TX next week. I've personally been to Dallas, Houston, and other cities about a dozen times, but it's always an experience.



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